Javon Walker {Dynasty} (1 Viewer)

[SSOG]

What is his value now?

I'm actually more down on him now than I was before with his discussion of leaving Denver. He already bucked the "WRs coming off of a major injury" trend and the "WRs changing teams" trend once. I'd rather not have to rely on him doing it again. I've dropped him from the 10-15 range and down into the 15-25 range.I actually turned into a Javon Walker seller a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't that I was down on Walker at all, it's just that I had the opportunity to get Larry Fitzgerald, and I had to take it.

 

[Smizzy]

What is his value now?

I'm actually more down on him now than I was before with his discussion of leaving Denver. He already bucked the "WRs coming off of a major injury" trend and the "WRs changing teams" trend once. I'd rather not have to rely on him doing it again. I've dropped him from the 10-15 range and down into the 15-25 range.I actually turned into a Javon Walker seller a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't that I was down on Walker at all, it's just that I had the opportunity to get Larry Fitzgerald, and I had to take it.

I've been selling and haven't had a bite in months...I was offered rookie pick #10 for him but the last thing I want to do is sell off a player when his value is so low.

 

[SSOG]

What is his value now?

I'm actually more down on him now than I was before with his discussion of leaving Denver. He already bucked the "WRs coming off of a major injury" trend and the "WRs changing teams" trend once. I'd rather not have to rely on him doing it again. I've dropped him from the 10-15 range and down into the 15-25 range.I actually turned into a Javon Walker seller a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't that I was down on Walker at all, it's just that I had the opportunity to get Larry Fitzgerald, and I had to take it.

I've been selling and haven't had a bite in months...I was offered rookie pick #10 for him but the last thing I want to do is sell off a player when his value is so low.

Maybe I'll change my mind as I spend more time evaluating this year's rookie class, but I still wouldn't sell Walker for any pick lower than #4 overall.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Walker's knee is shredded, i wouldn't touch him. If he was on the WW i might pick him up in deep dynasty leagues (14 team or more/big rosters), otherwise he's a waste of roster space.

Link?

Your screaming for a LINK??? Did you play FF this year or even pay attention to Football?

The guy missed about half of the season and when he did try to play... he was totally ineffective.

Heres your Link BTW: http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...NFL&id=1741

 

[lord_helmet]

Walker's knee is shredded, i wouldn't touch him. If he was on the WW i might pick him up in deep dynasty leagues (14 team or more/big rosters), otherwise he's a waste of roster space.

Link?

Your screaming for a LINK??? Did you play FF this year or even pay attention to Football?

The guy missed about half of the season and when he did try to play... he was totally ineffective.

Heres your Link BTW: http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...NFL&id=1741

I see where it says that he won't be 100% untill the offseason, I must have missed the part about the shredded knee

 

[KellysHeroes]

Walker's knee is shredded, i wouldn't touch him. If he was on the WW i might pick him up in deep dynasty leagues (14 team or more/big rosters), otherwise he's a waste of roster space.

Link?

Your screaming for a LINK??? Did you play FF this year or even pay attention to Football?

The guy missed about half of the season and when he did try to play... he was totally ineffective.

Heres your Link BTW: http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...NFL&id=1741

I see where it says that he won't be 100% untill the offseason, I must have missed the part about the shredded knee

You must of missed the 2nd half of the NFL season too....

 

[lord_helmet]

Walker's knee is shredded, i wouldn't touch him. If he was on the WW i might pick him up in deep dynasty leagues (14 team or more/big rosters), otherwise he's a waste of roster space.

Link?

Your screaming for a LINK??? Did you play FF this year or even pay attention to Football?

The guy missed about half of the season and when he did try to play... he was totally ineffective.

Heres your Link BTW: http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...NFL&id=1741

I see where it says that he won't be 100% untill the offseason, I must have missed the part about the shredded knee

You must of missed the 2nd half of the NFL season too....

Good thing I have a medical "expert" such as yourself to tell me whats up then

 

[Chunky Soup]

Walker's knee is shredded, i wouldn't touch him. If he was on the WW i might pick him up in deep dynasty leagues (14 team or more/big rosters), otherwise he's a waste of roster space.

Link?

Your screaming for a LINK??? Did you play FF this year or even pay attention to Football?

The guy missed about half of the season and when he did try to play... he was totally ineffective.

Heres your Link BTW: http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...NFL&id=1741

I see where it says that he won't be 100% untill the offseason, I must have missed the part about the shredded knee

You must of missed the 2nd half of the NFL season too....

If injuries never heal then you should be selling on LT as well. Add ADP to the list of players who, after an injury, had far less production. How about Anquan Boldin/Braylon Edwards a few years ago. The fact is that injuries come and go in the league. Some, very few, are career killers and most are not. The fact that he tried to play on it shows promise; in the very least it shows a huge difference between his and the Domanick Williams story that someone alluded to before. Domanick couldn't even do walk-throughs for practice.SSOG said he might be 15-25 right now. Thats probably where his value should be -- there is still question to the injury, his future team is in doubt, etc. That said, his upside is still higher than most other WRs in the league.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Walker's knee is shredded, i wouldn't touch him. If he was on the WW i might pick him up in deep dynasty leagues (14 team or more/big rosters), otherwise he's a waste of roster space.

Link?

Your screaming for a LINK??? Did you play FF this year or even pay attention to Football?

The guy missed about half of the season and when he did try to play... he was totally ineffective.

Heres your Link BTW: http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...NFL&id=1741

I see where it says that he won't be 100% untill the offseason, I must have missed the part about the shredded knee

You must of missed the 2nd half of the NFL season too....

Good thing I have a medical "expert" such as yourself to tell me whats up then

No ones needs to be an medical expert to have the common sense to stay away from a WR thats Blown a Knee out 2 times in 3 seasons.BTW, was it the same Knee or the other knee this time? Walker is talented.... but the injury label can rightfully be placed on him. You guys want to take risk him in the top 20 or so of WRs; thats fine... it just that I'm not at all interested.

 

[moderated]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.

His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.

His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

 

[lord_helmet]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

I just think its too early to write him off yet, he has bounced back before. I'm not ready to buy that he is done yet

 

[moderated]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

I just think its too early to write him off yet, he has bounced back before. I'm not ready to buy that he is done yet

Of course i don't know for sure either, but putting 2+2 together i think it's pretty clear his knee is in bad shape, microfactory surgery is major and recovery isn't near as good as something like an ACL.I have Javon in a dynasty league (with only 20 man rosters) and if i can't get anything for him he'll be cut.

 

[gman8343]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

I just think its too early to write him off yet, he has bounced back before. I'm not ready to buy that he is done yet

Of course i don't know for sure either, but putting 2+2 together i think it's pretty clear his knee is in bad shape, microfactory surgery is major and recovery isn't near as good as something like an ACL.I have Javon in a dynasty league (with only 20 man rosters) and if i can't get anything for him he'll be cut.

It was reported that he *may* need microfracture surgery in the next couple of years IIRC - I don't remember seeing anywhere that it was a foregone conclusion.

 

[lord_helmet]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.

His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.

His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

I just think its too early to write him off yet, he has bounced back before. I'm not ready to buy that he is done yet

Of course i don't know for sure either, but putting 2+2 together i think it's pretty clear his knee is in bad shape, microfactory surgery is major and recovery isn't near as good as something like an ACL.I have Javon in a dynasty league (with only 20 man rosters) and if i can't get anything for him he'll be cut.

I'll worry about that when it happens then

 

[moderated]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.

His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.

His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

I just think its too early to write him off yet, he has bounced back before. I'm not ready to buy that he is done yet

Of course i don't know for sure either, but putting 2+2 together i think it's pretty clear his knee is in bad shape, microfactory surgery is major and recovery isn't near as good as something like an ACL.I have Javon in a dynasty league (with only 20 man rosters) and if i can't get anything for him he'll be cut.

I'll worry about that when it happens then

The whole point about that is his knee is in bad shape. They don't talk about guys with healthy knees needing microfactory surgery, whether it be today or 2 years from now.If they can already see his knee is going to get worse that is a bad sign. It isn't like his knee is going to improve, it's going to keep getting worse until it's so bad he needs major surgery. Who would want a guy who's knee is already degrading to the point he'll need one of the most risky procedures there is for a knee down the line.

 

[KellysHeroes]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.

His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.

His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

I just think its too early to write him off yet, he has bounced back before. I'm not ready to buy that he is done yet

Of course i don't know for sure either, but putting 2+2 together i think it's pretty clear his knee is in bad shape, microfactory surgery is major and recovery isn't near as good as something like an ACL.I have Javon in a dynasty league (with only 20 man rosters) and if i can't get anything for him he'll be cut.

I'll worry about that when it happens then

The whole point about that is his knee is in bad shape. They don't talk about guys with healthy knees needing microfactory surgery, whether it be today or 2 years from now.If they can already see his knee is going to get worse that is a bad sign. It isn't like his knee is going to improve, it's going to keep getting worse until it's so bad he needs major surgery. Who would want a guy who's knee is already degrading to the point he'll need one of the most risky procedures there is for a knee down the line.

VERY

I rest my case on Javon Walker with that note

 

[KellysHeroes]

This is becoming WAY over used

 

[toxicbees]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.

His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.

His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

I just think its too early to write him off yet, he has bounced back before. I'm not ready to buy that he is done yet

Of course i don't know for sure either, but putting 2+2 together i think it's pretty clear his knee is in bad shape, microfactory surgery is major and recovery isn't near as good as something like an ACL.I have Javon in a dynasty league (with only 20 man rosters) and if i can't get anything for him he'll be cut.

I'll worry about that when it happens then

The whole point about that is his knee is in bad shape. They don't talk about guys with healthy knees needing microfactory surgery, whether it be today or 2 years from now.If they can already see his knee is going to get worse that is a bad sign. It isn't like his knee is going to improve, it's going to keep getting worse until it's so bad he needs major surgery. Who would want a guy who's knee is already degrading to the point he'll need one of the most risky procedures there is for a knee down the line.

VERY

I rest my case on Javon Walker with that note

Besides the fact that he needs another knee surgery, there is also the fact that he's asking for a trade out of Denver. Who knows where he ends up, and if he ever gets a chance to be a number 1 WR again.

 

[lord_helmet]

This is becoming WAY over used

I'll make sure to check with you first before using it again

 

[lord_helmet]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.

His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.

His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

I just think its too early to write him off yet, he has bounced back before. I'm not ready to buy that he is done yet

Of course i don't know for sure either, but putting 2+2 together i think it's pretty clear his knee is in bad shape, microfactory surgery is major and recovery isn't near as good as something like an ACL.I have Javon in a dynasty league (with only 20 man rosters) and if i can't get anything for him he'll be cut.

I'll worry about that when it happens then

The whole point about that is his knee is in bad shape. They don't talk about guys with healthy knees needing microfactory surgery, whether it be today or 2 years from now.If they can already see his knee is going to get worse that is a bad sign. It isn't like his knee is going to improve, it's going to keep getting worse until it's so bad he needs major surgery. Who would want a guy who's knee is already degrading to the point he'll need one of the most risky procedures there is for a knee down the line.

Someone who already has him rostered maybe ? People here are claiming he is droppable, I think thats too early. I don't dispute that he comes with considerable risk in a redraft league.

 

[Junta]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.

His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.

His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

I just think its too early to write him off yet, he has bounced back before. I'm not ready to buy that he is done yet

Of course i don't know for sure either, but putting 2+2 together i think it's pretty clear his knee is in bad shape, microfactory surgery is major and recovery isn't near as good as something like an ACL.I have Javon in a dynasty league (with only 20 man rosters) and if i can't get anything for him he'll be cut.

It was reported that he *may* need microfracture surgery in the next couple of years IIRC - I don't remember seeing anywhere that it was a foregone conclusion.

Good point! It is also nteresting that the only source I can find that he *may* need microfracture surgery is Shanahan. That came shortly after Walker started asking for trade and immediately after a Walker retreat on the trade issue. Then silence. Possibly strongarm negotiating tactics? If Shanahan is suddenly such a stone cold reliable source and medical expert, then what do we make of him saying the opposite regarding the surgery 2 months prior?

http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_7227072

Surely one would be taking a big risk to bet a lot to acquire him but to hear people talk about flat out dropping him in a Dynasty based on that level of info is funny.

 

[Dirty Hairy]

going back to the trade value issue:

I was turned down when I offered Thomas Howard, OAK LB straight up for Walker.

Howard finished #4 in LB scoring in 07, although the big plays will be hard to duplicate.

 

[KellysHeroes]

going back to the trade value issue:I was turned down when I offered Thomas Howard, OAK LB straight up for Walker.Howard finished #4 in LB scoring in 07, although the big plays will be hard to duplicate.

wow... I'm down on Walker; but even I would pull that trigger. I understand that Howard had a great yr, but LBs are never really constant. They have a good yr, then a bad yr, followed by a good yr again. Very few IDPs are constant.

 

[FUBAR]

going back to the trade value issue:

I was turned down when I offered Thomas Howard, OAK LB straight up for Walker.

Howard finished #4 in LB scoring in 07, although the big plays will be hard to duplicate.

wow... I'm down on Walker; but even I would pull that trigger. I understand that Howard had a great yr, but LBs are never really constant. They have a good yr, then a bad yr, followed by a good yr again. Very few IDPs are constant.

yeah, I guess that's why the offer was rejected.

 

[loose circuits]

i'm a walker owner, and I probably won't trade him. I did offer the TO owner Walker and my 2nd round pick, it was rejected. I figure I'm better off waiting it out. He's talented enough that I can't sell low. I sold low with Randy Moss, never gonna do that again

 

[Sinn Fein]

i'm a walker owner, and I probably won't trade him. I did offer the TO owner Walker and my 2nd round pick, it was rejected. I figure I'm better off waiting it out. He's talented enough that I can't sell low. I sold low with Randy Moss, never gonna do that again

If you trade him today, it will be the highest value he sees for the rest of his career.

 

[duece2626]

I traded Walker/Wilfork/Pool for R.Marshall/10th rookie pick.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Just traded Walker, Ahmad Bradshaw, and Derrick Johnson for Jamal Lewis and rookie pick 2.06(18). I really needed a RB seeing as though my RB1 and 2 were KJ and Caddy. My opening day RB's would be Bradshaw, Deangelo, and Norwood. I do own the rookie pick #5. I have alot of depth at LB. My starters are still Willis, Poz, and Boley.

 

[az_prof]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.

What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

 

[bcr8f]

It was also reported he'll need microfacture (sp?) surgery in the next couple years on his knee. He should probably get it sooner rather then later but it's a risky procedure and I guess he'd rather play at 50-60% instead of risking his career with surgery. Javon at 60% is an average at best WR.

His knee will never be 100% again, he has a degenerative knee condition.

His days as a solid fantasy option are over. No way he's in the top 30 dynasty WR's with his knee so messed up.

No it wasn't. It was speculated by someone outside the medical community and the Broncos.Speculation=gossip.

Show me a doctor saying that and stopping BS'ing all of you.

 

[Our Gang]

Link and Rest of the Story

"Javon is so explosive," Raiders Coach Lane Kiffin said Wednesday, the second day of mini-camp. "We think that he's going to be the best he's been in years, as far as health-wise. I know he's excited about this upcoming season and (the opportunity) to prove a lot of people wrong."

Looks to me like Walker is healing fine,,,

Also a quote from Curry:

"Regardless of who was here, I felt like I always been productive, whatever they ask me to do. And it's not going to change this year ...," Curry said. "You know, Javon, he's going to be the guy, and I'm just going to be out there making the plays when they go to me."

 

[bcr8f]

Link and Rest of the Story

"Javon is so explosive," Raiders Coach Lane Kiffin said Wednesday, the second day of mini-camp. "We think that he's going to be the best he's been in years, as far as health-wise. I know he's excited about this upcoming season and (the opportunity) to prove a lot of people wrong."

Looks to me like Walker is healing fine,,,

Also a quote from Curry:

"Regardless of who was here, I felt like I always been productive, whatever they ask me to do. And it's not going to change this year ...," Curry said. "You know, Javon, he's going to be the guy, and I'm just going to be out there making the plays when they go to me."

So far so good. The doctors checked him out thoroughly. If he had a degenerative condition they would have said so. Chronic is more like it.

 

[Jon_Moore]

I traded Walker straight up for Deangelo Williams in a ppr dynasty a few weeks ago, I'm pretty nervous about Walker this season.

 

[az_prof]

I would get rid of him like the plague. He is looking more and more like the next David Boston.

 

[SSOG]

I would get rid of him like the plague. He is looking more and more like the next David Boston.

You post in this thread that you're tentatively trying to buy him (albeit for far less than I think he's worth), then the news comes out that he's looking very healthy and explosive, and your opinion changes to "get rid of him like the plague"? How does that work?

 

[az_prof]

I would get rid of him like the plague. He is looking more and more like the next David Boston.

You post in this thread that you're tentatively trying to buy him (albeit for far less than I think he's worth), then the news comes out that he's looking very healthy and explosive, and your opinion changes to "get rid of him like the plague"? How does that work?

That was back in March. Plus, despite those reports you allude to he is still not fully recovered and i didn't realize the extent of his bad knee problems. I also know more about the rookie WRs and like a number of them better than him as a longshot prospect.

 

[cstu]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

The main reason I think people aren't as down on KJ is that starting RB's are much more difficult to find and, right or wrong, they are willing to cut him more slack.

 

[Jon_Moore]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

But Walker has had stud season.

 

[wasted space 25]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

But Walker has had stud season.

Javon will decline by the week. This guy is a fixture in the las vegas nightlife scene. Champagne and groupies are his cup of tea now, not touchdowns.

 

[bcr8f]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

But Walker has had stud season.

Javon will decline by the week. This guy is a fixture in the las vegas nightlife scene. Champagne and groupies are his cup of tea now, not touchdowns.

Proof? Post story or photos. Knowing him from his time in Green Bay that doesn't sound like him.

 

[wasted space 25]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

But Walker has had stud season.

Javon will decline by the week. This guy is a fixture in the las vegas nightlife scene. Champagne and groupies are his cup of tea now, not touchdowns.

Proof? Post story or photos. Knowing him from his time in Green Bay that doesn't sound like him.

Proof, my own two eyes. Story, he buys champagne and sprays it on the dance floor. Pics, i dont take pictures of dudes at night clubs. Camera's at clubs are for lame chicks. Sorry.

 

[massraider]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

But Walker has had stud season.

Javon will decline by the week. This guy is a fixture in the las vegas nightlife scene. Champagne and groupies are his cup of tea now, not touchdowns.

Proof? Post story or photos. Knowing him from his time in Green Bay that doesn't sound like him.

Proof, my own two eyes. Story, he buys champagne and sprays it on the dance floor. Pics, i dont take pictures of dudes at night clubs. Camera's at clubs are for lame chicks. Sorry.

I saw Ben Roethlisberger at the Venetian not too long ago.Had a cigar in his mouth, and I saw him drink at least two beers. I cut him immediately.It's very exciting that you saw Javon Walker at a club, but I don't know how that concerns his fantasy prospects.

 

[wasted space 25]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

But Walker has had stud season.

Javon will decline by the week. This guy is a fixture in the las vegas nightlife scene. Champagne and groupies are his cup of tea now, not touchdowns.

Proof? Post story or photos. Knowing him from his time in Green Bay that doesn't sound like him.

Proof, my own two eyes. Story, he buys champagne and sprays it on the dance floor. Pics, i dont take pictures of dudes at night clubs. Camera's at clubs are for lame chicks. Sorry.

I saw Ben Roethlisberger at the Venetian not too long ago.Had a cigar in his mouth, and I saw him drink at least two beers. I cut him immediately.It's very exciting that you saw Javon Walker at a club, but I don't know how that concerns his fantasy prospects.

Well, if the coach says he reported out of shape and slow i'd say partying would be a concern wouldnt it?????????

 

[massraider]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

But Walker has had stud season.

Javon will decline by the week. This guy is a fixture in the las vegas nightlife scene. Champagne and groupies are his cup of tea now, not touchdowns.

Proof? Post story or photos. Knowing him from his time in Green Bay that doesn't sound like him.

Proof, my own two eyes. Story, he buys champagne and sprays it on the dance floor. Pics, i dont take pictures of dudes at night clubs. Camera's at clubs are for lame chicks. Sorry.

I saw Ben Roethlisberger at the Venetian not too long ago.Had a cigar in his mouth, and I saw him drink at least two beers. I cut him immediately.It's very exciting that you saw Javon Walker at a club, but I don't know how that concerns his fantasy prospects.

Well, if the coach says he reported out of shape and slow i'd say partying would be a concern wouldnt it?????????

I too was shocked that Javon didn't report in tip-top shape, after having knee surgery, and being inactive for months. Shocked.

 

[SSOG]

Well, if the coach says he reported out of shape and slow i'd say partying would be a concern wouldnt it?????????

Yes, it's very likely that any weight issues that Javon Walker may or may not have reported with are the result of the fact that you saw him at the club.This is the guy who pretty much set the bar for WRs coming back from catastrophic ACL injuries. In both of his last two stops, he was repeatedly praised for his work ethic. He's also coming back from a major injury. If he really was out of shape (and I still haven't seen anything definitive on the subject- look right now, where his exact same coach is singing his praises), then I suspect that it's more likely that has something to do with his injury than with any dramatic shift in his habits and personality.

 

[bcr8f]

Proof, my own two eyes. Story, he buys champagne and sprays it on the dance floor. Pics, i dont take pictures of dudes at night clubs. Camera's at clubs are for lame chicks. Sorry.

Lame chicks. That's a good one. Come on use your head. The guy has always been a hard worker.

EDIT Damn he's right. SJax was there too.

 

[wasted space 25]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

But Walker has had stud season.

Javon will decline by the week. This guy is a fixture in the las vegas nightlife scene. Champagne and groupies are his cup of tea now, not touchdowns.

Proof? Post story or photos. Knowing him from his time in Green Bay that doesn't sound like him.

Proof, my own two eyes. Story, he buys champagne and sprays it on the dance floor. Pics, i dont take pictures of dudes at night clubs. Camera's at clubs are for lame chicks. Sorry.

I saw Ben Roethlisberger at the Venetian not too long ago.Had a cigar in his mouth, and I saw him drink at least two beers. I cut him immediately.It's very exciting that you saw Javon Walker at a club, but I don't know how that concerns his fantasy prospects.

UUUUUUHHHHHHHH how about now?

 

[red_stapler]

I dumped him... fairly cheaply too.

 

[TD5150]

I am buying, but only if the price is very cheap. The fact that he is now on second knee surgery and changing teams again, and going to Oakland where he will have an inexperienced QB and question marks at coaching make me value him even less. I put his value at a mid-round second. I have 2.02 and wouldn't give that for him. My problem is that the 3.02 is probably not enough. I am currently offering 3.02 and a throw-in player.What is interesting is that people are down on KJ for being injured but Walker has just as bad of an injury history and that does not get as much attention. The fact is that he is a risk and while he could revive his career and become a good WR2 (the days of WR1 are history IMO), he is just as likely to burn out and disappear, ala David Boston.

But Walker has had stud season.

Javon will decline by the week. This guy is a fixture in the las vegas nightlife scene. Champagne and groupies are his cup of tea now, not touchdowns.

It looks like you may be more right than people were giving you credit for. Whenever you are found face down in the gutter with a cracked bone in your face that tells me you may be partying a little too hard with the wrong kind of people. Javon better wise up fast or he will find himself out of the NFL or worse.

 

[Baconator]

Lots of chickens coming home to roost here. Look, when you're already overweight, ovepaid and significantly underperforming in your OTA's with your brand new team, you DON'T DON'T DON'T party until 6 a.m. (or later).

- Says pretty much everything I need to know about the guy and his work ethic.