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Javon Walker To Have Knee Surgery (1 Viewer)

Boy, you have to start to wonder if he'll be back at all this year. He's been out for awhile, had a bye week, and now he has surgery?

 
As a J. Walker owner this seriously makes me re tool my entire FF strategy for 2nd half of the season. I was getting by the last three weeks (including the bye) without him and now I have to plan accordingly again.

I wish they would define "a few more weeks" but I guess you can never tell with knee surgery.

 
analog_hiss said:
Is it the same knee he had work on in 2005?
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Yes.I feel terribly bad for him. This guy can't buy a break. He destroys his knee two years ago, then makes it all the way back. He then holds his friend, Darrent Williams, in his harms as he dies. He reportedly works like a mad man during the offseason vowing to have his best season ever in honor of Williams. He gets off to a great start only to have a knee issue surface that pretty much ruins this season for him (not out for the season, but kills a "productive" season).I'll be rooting for him, and I hope he has a speedy recovery.
 
This bites. I am majorly screwed at WR this week with bye weeks and now this. Looks like I'm starting KEvin Curtis and Crayton....I was really counting on him this week.

 
Pigskins said:
Upgrade Stokely, G. Martinez, Scheffler???
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All 3, more than likely.Keep in mind that TE Stephen Alexander was just placed on IR. Although they still have former Pat Daniel Graham, Scheffler gets two bumps up. He's much like Cutler's Witten, in that they are friends and training camp roommates. Cutler and Scheffler also came in together last year, and immediately developed a good on-field rapport. I would fully expect Scheffler to get more targets. For those that don't know, he also has a great set of hands. TEs are almost always a young QB's favorite target.
 
Marshall is going to see more targets, but it really just hurts the Den passing game. I think Marshall would get his #'s regardless of Walker's presence. I think it affects Cutler more than anything else.

 
There goes Denver's season.
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Denver's season waved bye-bye awhile ago. :thumbup: It was purely dumb luck that I traded Walker the week after he threw up a whole point against Jacksonville. I never thought I'd thank HK for anything, but thanks for scaring me away from Javon. :)
 
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"A few weeks" sounds like at least a month to me probably longer. Just guessing obviously. In smaller leagues or leagues with tight roster limits, I think Walker owners have to give serious thought to dropping him. Given how it's the same knee he tore up with the Packers and given how he'll likely need a week or two at least to get in game shape if he's out for at least a month it may 6-7 weeks before he can even be started. I said last week this reminded me of the Darrell Jackson situation a few years ago and the parallels are now pretty much exact. That season, DJax went out and took more than half the season to recover and when he returned he had one good game and that was it. We'll hopefully find out a more definitive timetable in the next few days but right now it's hard to expect Walker back anytime before December.

This pretty much sticks a fork in Cutler too. He's been regressing steadily without Walker. I think his owners will need to consider dropping him in redraft leagues as well. I don't see any value or upside to him the rest of the season without Walker.

 
Cerwin said:
Brandon Marshall's value goes up.
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I'm not sure about that. I don't think it goes down, but against better pass defenses, teams will be focusing more attention on Marshall than would otherwise be the case. Do the likely extra targets and "go to" receiver status sufficiently make up for extra defensive attention or not? Overall, I see a downtick to the overall Denver offense, especially to Cutler, and I expect Marshall to have up and down games. Up against the weaker pass defenses, down against the stronger pass defenses. So I see his overall numbers being roughly the same.
 
In my redraft league the roster restrictions are too tight and I have to start 3 WR so off to the wire he goes. I wiish him well but I have to move on. Point to the shirt.

 
Why would this surprise anyone? Knees that have to be drained don't fix themselves, so surgery should have been expected. The only mystery is why the Broncos waited.

 
H.K. said:
Why would this surprise anyone? Knees that have to be drained don't fix themselves, so surgery should have been expected. The only mystery is why the Broncos waited.
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They probably wanted to see if two weeks of rest and rehab would fix it.
 
H.K. said:
Why would this surprise anyone? Knees that have to be drained don't fix themselves, so surgery should have been expected. The only mystery is why the Broncos waited.
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That's what makes me wonder just how long he'll be out or perhaps if he'll come back at all this season. If it truly were going to be a "few more weeks" until he comes back wouldn't they just have bitten the bullet and had the surgery done right after he was a DNP vs SD???? That would have given him two weeks of recovery before now. They must expect him to be out for an extended period if they were that hesitant to just have the knee operated on at that time.I really thought DEN would win the division this year and contend for the AFC title. What a road it's been for them this season. Maybe the effect of picking up all those CLE players the past few years. They've been hit with CLE luck this year.
 
BoltBacker said:
Gr00vus said:
H.K. said:
Why would this surprise anyone? Knees that have to be drained don't fix themselves, so surgery should have been expected. The only mystery is why the Broncos waited.
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They probably wanted to see if two weeks of rest and rehab would fix it.
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But he had been sitting out since week #3.... he'd already had two weeks. The guy hasn't played in a month.
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From the article it sounded like they thought things had improved, and then when he practiced on it this week it got swollen again. When the alternative is surgery, waiting another two weeks to see if things get better without it makes sense to me - it just didn't work out. :goodposting:
 
Cerwin said:
Brandon Marshall's value goes up.
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I disagree....Marshall was benefitting from the attention Walker got from the defense. Being the #1 WR option WILL HURT him, he'll draw the coverage. I am a Marshall owner this is terrible news for BM.
 
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woohoo .. luckily i traded for him last week .. now have to start evans, ginn and s. moss this week .. can it get any better?

 
The Jerk said:
Cerwin said:
Brandon Marshall's value goes up.
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I'm not sure about that. I don't think it goes down, but against better pass defenses, teams will be focusing more attention on Marshall than would otherwise be the case. Do the likely extra targets and "go to" receiver status sufficiently make up for extra defensive attention or not? Overall, I see a downtick to the overall Denver offense, especially to Cutler, and I expect Marshall to have up and down games. Up against the weaker pass defenses, down against the stronger pass defenses. So I see his overall numbers being roughly the same.
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Walker got 28 targets in the first 2 games. Marshall got 7.5 targets in the first 2 games, and 10.3 since then. I would expect that trend to continue.
 
TommyGilmore said:
The Jerk said:
Cerwin said:
Brandon Marshall's value goes up.
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I'm not sure about that. I don't think it goes down, but against better pass defenses, teams will be focusing more attention on Marshall than would otherwise be the case. Do the likely extra targets and "go to" receiver status sufficiently make up for extra defensive attention or not? Overall, I see a downtick to the overall Denver offense, especially to Cutler, and I expect Marshall to have up and down games. Up against the weaker pass defenses, down against the stronger pass defenses. So I see his overall numbers being roughly the same.
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Walker got 28 targets in the first 2 games. Marshall got 7.5 targets in the first 2 games, and 10.3 since then. I would expect that trend to continue.
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Marshall will definitely be the top guy and I think he'll put up at least WR2 numbers overall. The problem is defenses will consistently roll coverage toward him and he'll need to show he can handle that. The bigger issue is Cutler's play has steadily regressed without Walker. It's clear he needs Walker badly if he's going to play well. Without Walker, defenses can sit on the intermediate routes because there's no downfield threat. Stokely is best suited to be a third WR who excels when defenders have to worry about the other WRs on the field. As a starter, he struggles to beat press coverage and get clean routes. Mainly without Walker, the vertical element has been removed. So the pressure is really on Cutler and I'm not sure he's going to be up to the challenge. He certainly hasn't been impressive the last two weeks in games where he had to throw a lot and still couldn't put up much from a fantasy perspective. I think it's going to get real ugly for him against the Steelers on Sunday night.
 
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