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Why so low? He's averaging over 14 ppg-only Steve Smith and SOD Coltson are performing at a higher level. His strength of schedule isn't so bad but I'm at a complete loss as to why fbg's rank him at the 15 spot. Lower than Fitzgerald, Boldin, Driver, Ward? He's been much better than these guys thus far, so why will his production fall flat? Standard scoring he's had two weeks under ten points. He's been rather consistent thus far and I think we've all seen the monster game he's capable of.

 
Why so low? He's averaging over 14 ppg-only Steve Smith and SOD Coltson are performing at a higher level. His strength of schedule isn't so bad but I'm at a complete loss as to why fbg's rank him at the 15 spot. Lower than Fitzgerald, Boldin, Driver, Ward? He's been much better than these guys thus far, so why will his production fall flat? Standard scoring he's had two weeks under ten points. He's been rather consistent thus far and I think we've all seen the monster game he's capable of.
Two reasons:1) His targets are very low, ~#20 for WRs overall2) Plummer is terrible this season
 
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Why so low? He's averaging over 14 ppg-only Steve Smith and SOD Coltson are performing at a higher level. His strength of schedule isn't so bad but I'm at a complete loss as to why fbg's rank him at the 15 spot. Lower than Fitzgerald, Boldin, Driver, Ward? He's been much better than these guys thus far, so why will his production fall flat? Standard scoring he's had two weeks under ten points. He's been rather consistent thus far and I think we've all seen the monster game he's capable of.
Two reasons:1) His targets are very low, ~#20 for WRs overall2) Plummer is terrible this season
And yet he's Top 3 in scoring in many fantasy leagues. He was No. 1 in a lot of leagues in the thread asking for the top scorers in leagues last week. Seems to me he's doing pretty well despite the issues listed above.
 
Why so low? He's averaging over 14 ppg-only Steve Smith and SOD Coltson are performing at a higher level. His strength of schedule isn't so bad but I'm at a complete loss as to why fbg's rank him at the 15 spot. Lower than Fitzgerald, Boldin, Driver, Ward? He's been much better than these guys thus far, so why will his production fall flat? Standard scoring he's had two weeks under ten points. He's been rather consistent thus far and I think we've all seen the monster game he's capable of.
Two reasons:1) His targets are very low, ~#20 for WRs overall2) Plummer is terrible this season
Do you expect Walker to start getting fewer looks? Do you think his average per catch will drop from his league leading 17.8 to some pathetic level? It's possible he continues to get the same number of looks and starts doing less with the catches. It's equally possible he'll start getting the ball passed his way more.
 
Overall Jake is terrible but every game he looks like Peyton Manning for 5-10 throws and Walker catches most of those. He also can take it the distance at any time.

 
It's possible he continues to get the same number of looks and starts doing less with the catches. It's equally possible he'll start getting the ball passed his way more.
I think he'll get fewer looks. He's in Denver, so weather will be a factor.
 
It's possible he continues to get the same number of looks and starts doing less with the catches. It's equally possible he'll start getting the ball passed his way more.
I think he'll get fewer looks. He's in Denver, so weather will be a factor.
do you think they will be running more? Based on what has happened thus far, that doesn't sound like a winning move to me.
 
It's possible he continues to get the same number of looks and starts doing less with the catches. It's equally possible he'll start getting the ball passed his way more.
I think he'll get fewer looks. He's in Denver, so weather will be a factor.
Have you been to Denver in the winter lately?We'll get our 3 - 4 token snow storms and other than that, it's smooth sailing.
 
Why so low? He's averaging over 14 ppg-only Steve Smith and SOD Coltson are performing at a higher level. His strength of schedule isn't so bad but I'm at a complete loss as to why fbg's rank him at the 15 spot. Lower than Fitzgerald, Boldin, Driver, Ward? He's been much better than these guys thus far, so why will his production fall flat? Standard scoring he's had two weeks under ten points. He's been rather consistent thus far and I think we've all seen the monster game he's capable of.
Two reasons:1) His targets are very low, ~#20 for WRs overall2) Plummer is terrible this season
And has been said, this is reason to believe Walker will get better, not worse.
 
We'll get our 3 - 4 token snow storms and other than that, it's smooth sailing.
:lmao: "Token snow storms" actually made me laugh, not sure why, it just sounds funny....kind of like something the board of tourism would say.Come to Denver this winter, its a dry cold! :thumbup: Don't forget the sun screen!
 
Way off topic, but Denver gets some ridiculous amount of sunny days each year. Like 250-260. I think

most natives consider the smog to be a bigger problem than the weather.

Sincerely yours,

Cliff Claven

 
It's possible he continues to get the same number of looks and starts doing less with the catches. It's equally possible he'll start getting the ball passed his way more.
I think he'll get fewer looks. He's in Denver, so weather will be a factor.
Walker has a proven history of doing well in the winter.
...with Favre.
Yup and I agree that's a huge difference from Plummer. However, Plummer has stunk all season long for the most part and Walker is still putting up Top 3 fantasy numbers in many (most?) leagues. I don't see any reason to anticipate a significant decline. If the Broncos' running game doesn't perk up Walker's chances to produces will go up even more. I think things are looking real real good for Walker the rest of the way.
 
Walker is the type of WR that makes his QB look better.

not the other way around.

imagine Denver WITHOUT Walker this year... yea scary

 
I don't get all the love for Walker? Yes, he is the #2 WR in my league with 123 pts, but 63 of those came in Weeks 3 & 9. He's scored a total of 60 pts the other 7 weeks, averaging about 8.5 pts, ranking him around the 19th best WR.

 
I don't get all the love for Walker? Yes, he is the #2 WR in my league with 123 pts, but 63 of those came in Weeks 3 & 9. He's scored a total of 60 pts the other 7 weeks, averaging about 8.5 pts, ranking him around the 19th best WR.
:goodposting: Excellent analysis. He's the Aaron Brooks of WR's.
 
I don't get all the love for Walker? Yes, he is the #2 WR in my league with 123 pts, but 63 of those came in Weeks 3 & 9. He's scored a total of 60 pts the other 7 weeks, averaging about 8.5 pts, ranking him around the 19th best WR.
:rolleyes: While we're at it, let's just knock Torry Holt down a notch or two or ten, since if you take away his 3 best games, he's averaging 7.4 PPG. In those 6 games, he's scored a whopping 44 points, ranking him around the, oh I don't know, he clearly sucks.
 
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I don't get all the love for Walker? Yes, he is the #2 WR in my league with 123 pts, but 63 of those came in Weeks 3 & 9. He's scored a total of 60 pts the other 7 weeks, averaging about 8.5 pts, ranking him around the 19th best WR.
:rolleyes: While we're at it, let's just knock Torry Holt down a notch or two or ten, since if you take away his 3 best games, he's averaging 7.4 PPG. In those 6 games, he's scored a whopping 44 points, ranking him around the, oh I don't know, he clearly sucks.
i lol'ed
 
I don't get all the love for Walker? Yes, he is the #2 WR in my league with 123 pts, but 63 of those came in Weeks 3 & 9. He's scored a total of 60 pts the other 7 weeks, averaging about 8.5 pts, ranking him around the 19th best WR.
:goodposting: Excellent analysis. He's the Aaron Brooks of WR's.
As I posted earlier here, he's had TWO weeks where he scored under ten points. That's way more consistent than many other wr's ranked ahead of him.
 
I don't get all the love for Walker? Yes, he is the #2 WR in my league with 123 pts, but 63 of those came in Weeks 3 & 9. He's scored a total of 60 pts the other 7 weeks, averaging about 8.5 pts, ranking him around the 19th best WR.
I propose a 3 step program.1. Stop the overreaching anal-ysis2. Actually watch him play3. Understand that Plummer is not a consistent QB, but has bright momentsWill Jake get better or get removed?
 
Just watch Javon play. This guy is a playmaker period.

He can change games all on his own ala Steve Smith.

If Walker can stay healthy and Culter proves good, the sky is the limit for Walker over the next 5-6 years.

If I had to rank him for next year's draft, I'd say that he is top 5 WR easy.

IMO, he will be close to as good as TO used to be in the coming years give or take a TD or 2.

It really irks me that my boys let him go. However, Jennings makes me feel not so unhappy.

 
I don't get all the love for Walker? Yes, he is the #2 WR in my league with 123 pts, but 63 of those came in Weeks 3 & 9. He's scored a total of 60 pts the other 7 weeks, averaging about 8.5 pts, ranking him around the 19th best WR.
I propose a 3 step program.1. Stop the overreaching anal-ysis2. Actually watch him play3. Understand that Plummer is not a consistent QB, but has bright momentsWill Jake get better or get removed?
:goodposting: Good info here, pure genius. This and a token might get me on the subway.
 
He's # 3 in our league, but I threw out his best week and his worst week

and he averages 16 per week.

In most of the weeks he scores around 14.

Not bad, but not real good either.

 
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking.

He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.

He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.

He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.

Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.

 
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking. He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.
Amen.
 
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking. He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.
yes, yes, but if you throw out all of his good games, he is mediocre
 
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking. He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.
yes, yes, but if you throw out all of his good games, he is mediocre
Seriously. What a bum.
 
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking. He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.
yes, yes, but if you throw out all of his good games, he is mediocre
and you can use that theory on all the good WR's???
 
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking. He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.
yes, yes, but if you throw out all of his good games, he is mediocre
and you can use that theory on all the good WR's???
No, that theory only applies to Walker. ;)
 
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking. He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.
yes, yes, but if you throw out all of his good games, he is mediocre
And if you throw out LTs last 5 weeks he's mediocre. Sorry, that logic doesn't float.
 
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking. He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.
yes, yes, but if you throw out all of his good games, he is mediocre
And if you throw out LTs last 5 weeks he's mediocre. Sorry, that logic doesn't float.
does that sarcasm float?
 
moleculo said:
timintey said:
bumpman said:
ExtraPoint said:
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking. He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.
yes, yes, but if you throw out all of his good games, he is mediocre
And if you throw out LTs last 5 weeks he's mediocre. Sorry, that logic doesn't float.
does that sarcasm float?
yes I was being sarcastic but I was just pointing out that you can't just throw out statistics. If you take out FWPs 2 long runs last week he had a so-so week, same with Driver's long TD. Basically you can do that with virtually everyone.Bottom line Walker is a solid top 5-10 WR.
 
Walker is very underrated as a football player by many fans and people on this board. Many people assume Favre made Walker a good receiver, however this is far from the truth. Walker is an elite WR and among the top 5-7 guys for his position in real NFL and fantasy with or without Favre.

The only doubt anyone should have had this season with Walker is how would he respond coming back from a tough injury for a player of his position and he sure has quieted any doubters. The Broncos got a really good football player and it was definitely one of the best moves this past off season that doesen't get enough recognition.

Anytime you get one of the top players at a skilled position for as cheaply as Denver did you got a real steal.

 
Walker is an elite WR and among the top 5-7 guys for his position in real NFL and fantasy with or without Favre.
Take off your pimp glasses. You sound ridiculous. 5-7 WRs better than Walker....

Chad Johnson

Torry Holt

Marvin Harrison

Terrell Owens

Steve Smith

Larry Fitzgerald

Anquan Boldin

 
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I would have to agree with top 5

The last two years he has played Walker has put up Top 3 #s Period

Who gives a flyin F if he had a few big games toget there, he has 6 TDs half way through the season and big yards.

Boldin/Fitz are better than him get real, untill someone there can throw 100 receptions to each of those guys again neither will be better than average. Chad Johnson (Houdini for the first half of the season), he is worried more about his TD celebrations.

Walker is a top 3 WR half way through the season with a QB that everyone here seems to think is one of the worst in the league. Put Walker on AZ or St Lou or Indy and Walker blows away these other guys, if he had Manning throwing to him he woul have 10+ TDs right now.

Fantasy wise assuming the knee holds up this year. He is on my top 3 list to draft next year regardless of who the QB is in Den.

 
Walker is an elite WR and among the top 5-7 guys for his position in real NFL and fantasy with or without Favre.
Take off your pimp glasses. You sound ridiculous. 5-7 WRs better than Walker....

Chad Johnson

Torry Holt

Marvin Harrison

Terrell Owens

Steve Smith

Larry Fitzgerald

Anquan Boldin
Debatable.
Not even. Not even debateable.

Walker has had a season and a half of good football, and other than that there isn't isn't much worth noting and people are talking as if he is a Top 5 WR in the NFL....thats almost laughable. If you think Walker is better than Boldin or Fitzgerald, then you are truly out to lunch.

That list of 7 WRs doesn't even include WRs such as Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Roy Williams, Chris Chambers and those are the WRs I would associate Walker with.

 
Walker is an elite WR and among the top 5-7 guys for his position in real NFL and fantasy with or without Favre.
Take off your pimp glasses. You sound ridiculous. 5-7 WRs better than Walker....

Chad Johnson

Torry Holt

Marvin Harrison

Terrell Owens

Steve Smith

Larry Fitzgerald

Anquan Boldin
Debatable.
Not even. Not even debateable.

Walker has had a season and a half of good football, and other than that there isn't isn't much worth noting and people are talking as if he is a Top 5 WR in the NFL....thats almost laughable. If you think Walker is better than Boldin or Fitzgerald, then you are truly out to lunch.

That list of 7 WRs doesn't even include WRs such as Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Roy Williams, Chris Chambers and those are the WRs I would associate Walker with.
This is exactly my point. Walker should be mentioned with the Smiths and Fitzgeralds of the NFL but he is not getting the recognition he deserves. 2 years ago he was arguably one of the top 5 WR's in the NFL for that season and his team did well because of that. He gets hurt and Favre has his worst season as an NFL QB.This year he is easily in the running for one of the top 5 recievers in the game and a is one of the main reasons his team is 6-2.

My pimp glasses are off and I feel you need to take off your hate glasses.

 
moleculo said:
timintey said:
bumpman said:
ExtraPoint said:
In terms of ability, Walker is one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. He's very TO like in his training, physical ability, and playmaking. He came back this year after tearing an ACL. An injury that costs a player conditioning, confidence, and more. Before that injury he was consitently putting up big numbers in Green Bay.He had to adjust to a new team and slightly different offensive system. A new QB, new coaches, a team that ran the ball more frequently.He went from a hall of fame QB to a QB who has barely hung onto a starting job during his career.Despite all that working against him... here he is, where he should be, back in the top 5. He's just that damn good. Pure and simple.
yes, yes, but if you throw out all of his good games, he is mediocre
And if you throw out LTs last 5 weeks he's mediocre. Sorry, that logic doesn't float.
does that sarcasm float?
yes I was being sarcastic but I was just pointing out that you can't just throw out statistics. If you take out FWPs 2 long runs last week he had a so-so week, same with Driver's long TD. Basically you can do that with virtually everyone.Bottom line Walker is a solid top 5-10 WR.
I can't determine if you are for real, but you are aren't you ?.. What you're saying is something everybody in this thread already knows, get it ?
 
Walker is an elite WR and among the top 5-7 guys for his position in real NFL and fantasy with or without Favre.
Take off your pimp glasses. You sound ridiculous. 5-7 WRs better than Walker....

Chad Johnson

Torry Holt

Marvin Harrison

Terrell Owens

Steve Smith

Larry Fitzgerald

Anquan Boldin
Debatable.
Not even. Not even debateable.

Walker has had a season and a half of good football, and other than that there isn't isn't much worth noting and people are talking as if he is a Top 5 WR in the NFL....thats almost laughable. If you think Walker is better than Boldin or Fitzgerald, then you are truly out to lunch.

That list of 7 WRs doesn't even include WRs such as Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Roy Williams, Chris Chambers and those are the WRs I would associate Walker with.
What would Javon have to do to convince you otherwise? Do more with fewer targets? Have an even higher YPC? A worse QB? Score 13 TDs in a game? You seem to be setting up a premise for which no potential performance on Javon's part can make him part of that group.
 
He ranks 2nd in standard scoring leagues.

He's scored 5 touchdowns in his last three games.

He's been held under 60 yards receiving once in his last eight games.

He's had 75 yards or more five times during that stretch.

He's done all that with a QB who's been the definition of unreliable and inconsistent.

He's shown no ill effects whatsoever from his major knee injury.

What's not to like about this guy? He's damn good; he's extremely productive and he is, without question, the best offensive player on a playoff-caliber team at the moment.

I'd say the future is looking very very bright for Walker the rest of this season.

 
Walker is an elite WR and among the top 5-7 guys for his position in real NFL and fantasy with or without Favre.
Take off your pimp glasses. You sound ridiculous. 5-7 WRs better than Walker....

Chad Johnson

Torry Holt

Marvin Harrison

Terrell Owens

Steve Smith

Larry Fitzgerald

Anquan Boldin
Debatable.
Not even. Not even debateable.



Walker has had a season and a half of good football, and other than that there isn't isn't much worth noting and people are talking as if he is a Top 5 WR in the NFL....thats almost laughable. If you think Walker is better than Boldin or Fitzgerald, then you are truly out to lunch.

That list of 7 WRs doesn't even include WRs such as Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Roy Williams, Chris Chambers and those are the WRs I would associate Walker with.
Uh, so has Fitz. Steve Smith has had 2.5 good seasons. Same for Boldin.

Walker broke out his 3rd year which is pretty typical of stud WR's. Lost a season due to injury and then came back on fire. As a matter of fact, he seems to be following Steve Smith's career pretty closely. Steve Smith broke out his 3rd year, lost a season due to injury and absolutely lit it up his 5th year. Walker isn't on a 2005 Steve Smith pace this year, but he's definitely tearing it up.

Chad Johnson has about 3 good games all season. For the first part of the season he blew. Harrison is up there in age so for Dynasty purpuses I would rather have Walker. Not to mention that Wayne is a much more viable target for Manning than anyone Denver has. TO is a nut job and at risk of losing his job at any moment because of his mouth.

All of these guys you say are not debatable are absolutely debatable except for Holt.

I love guys that speak in absolutes. Usually means they are absolutely idiots....

 
He ranks 2nd in standard scoring leagues.He's scored 5 touchdowns in his last three games.He's been held under 60 yards receiving once in his last eight games.He's had 75 yards or more five times during that stretch.He's done all that with a QB who's been the definition of unreliable and inconsistent.He's shown no ill effects whatsoever from his major knee injury.What's not to like about this guy? He's damn good; he's extremely productive and he is, without question, the best offensive player on a playoff-caliber team at the moment. I'd say the future is looking very very bright for Walker the rest of this season.
:goodposting: Have to say this is one guy I completely missed the boat on this year. I figured between the knee injury recovery, prescence of Rod Smith, and Jake's inconsistency, that he would be a lower end WR2/top WR3 this year. No issues with the first two, and he's producing regardless of the third.At this point, he's pretty much a must start every week, and falls in the same range as the CJ/TO/Harrison level, just behind Smith and Holt in my opinion (though even Holt may be sliding out of that tier now). Dynasty wise, he's huge, pretty much regardless of who's the QB (can it really get worse?).
 

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