Javon Walker (1 Viewer)

[H.K.]

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Kenard McGuire, the agent for receiver Javon Walker, said he has not been in contact with the team. Walker is expected to be traded or cut within the next month.

 

[MAC_32]

Hope you enjoy being an Iggle, J Walk.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Hope you enjoy being an Iggle, J Walk.

<3

 

[LILB811]

Hope you enjoy being an Iggle, J Walk.

Yep, no problems here

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Eagles, Cowboys, Bears, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and more could benefit from him. I'd hate to see him go t a rival.

 

[H.K.]

Eagles, Cowboys, Bears, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and more could benefit from him. I'd hate to see him go t a rival.

Carolina.

 

[Chadstroma]

Raiders?

 

[MAC_32]

Eagles, Cowboys, Bears, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and more could benefit from him. I'd hate to see him go t a rival.

Carolina.

Granted I thought Dwayne Jarrett was a bad pick and J Walk could be very useful in Carolina, but I find it hard to believe Carolina will give up on him this quickly. J Walk won't be a Panther.

 

[Banger]

Eagles, Cowboys, Bears, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and more could benefit from him. I'd hate to see him go t a rival.

Carolina.

Granted I thought Dwayne Jarrett was a bad pick and J Walk could be very useful in Carolina, but I find it hard to believe Carolina will give up on him this quickly. J Walk won't be a Panther.

He may not be a Panther but I don't think that it would mean they would be giving up on Jarrett. They've gotten nothing from the #2 wr spot since Mush left. Smith tends to get banged up and so does Walker and having a good 3rd wr can be a good thing (NE, Cincy, etc.).

 

[Warhogs]

Word on the street is the Vikings could use A LOT of help at WR.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Eagles, Cowboys, Bears, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and more could benefit from him. I'd hate to see him go t a rival.

Carolina.

The NFL is known as a copy cat league. Teams saw the success of the Patriot's spread offense and are sure to try and copy that to some degree. Javon Walker is going to be a hot commodity for many teams, not just those in dire need of a #1 WR. As a Browns fan I'd love to see him in Cleveland to pair him with Braylon and KWII. Joe J. could ride into the sunset or slide to the slot for a year or two. I really like the talent of Javon Walker. I think he is a very good WR if his head is screwed on right. He took the death of Darrent Williams extremely hard and it seemed to have a significant impact on him. He spoke openly of how he did not feel safe in Denver and wanted out so I think he will thrive in another location. Don't be shocked if a team without a clear cut WR need makes a play for him in an attempt to try and replicate the highly successful Patriot spread offense, IOWs a team who has a solid #1 WR in place and who is a contender or close to contending for a championship.

 

[Chadstroma]

I would hate to see it but if he is cut, do the Chargers take a strong look at him? Walker next to Chambers in the WR corps seems to be to be very scary for D's when you also have to take LT and Gates into account.

What about KC? They could use a WR opposite of the young Bowe.

I would love the Raiders. Give some boost to the WR corps for Russell.

So basically, do the Bronco's look for a trade at even a discount just to make sure he does not go to a division rival?

 

[Chadstroma]

Eagles, Cowboys, Bears, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and more could benefit from him. I'd hate to see him go t a rival.

Carolina.

The NFL is known as a copy cat league. Teams saw the success of the Patriot's spread offense and are sure to try and copy that to some degree. Javon Walker is going to be a hot commodity for many teams, not just those in dire need of a #1 WR. As a Browns fan I'd love to see him in Cleveland to pair him with Braylon and KWII. Joe J. could ride into the sunset or slide to the slot for a year or two. I really like the talent of Javon Walker. I think he is a very good WR if his head is screwed on right. He took the death of Darrent Williams extremely hard and it seemed to have a significant impact on him. He spoke openly of how he did not feel safe in Denver and wanted out so I think he will thrive in another location. Don't be shocked if a team without a clear cut WR need makes a play for him in an attempt to try and replicate the highly successful Patriot spread offense, IOWs a team who has a solid #1 WR in place and who is a contender or close to contending for a championship.

I do not think you have to look for teams without any good WR's for an option. It could be a team that has talent. Heck, I would not be surprised to see him go to Cincy to fill in for a soon to be traded Chad Johnson. Maybe a deal made between those two teams? Although I think it would be stupid, what about New England looking for him to replace Stallworth? Doubtful Walker looks for a pay cut though. I think it is pretty wide open to most of the 31 teams could have potential interest in him.

 

[Banger]

I would hate to see it but if he is cut, do the Chargers take a strong look at him? Walker next to Chambers in the WR corps seems to be to be very scary for D's when you also have to take LT and Gates into account. What about KC? They could use a WR opposite of the young Bowe. I would love the Raiders. Give some boost to the WR corps for Russell. So basically, do the Bronco's look for a trade at even a discount just to make sure he does not go to a division rival?

I highly doubt the Chargers would look at him. VJax seems to do well as the #2 alongside Chambers. If they didn't have Chambers maybe. There are very few teams that wouldn't be interested in him if he were cut.

 

[H.K.]

Eagles, Cowboys, Bears, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and more could benefit from him. I'd hate to see him go t a rival.

Carolina.

Granted I thought Dwayne Jarrett was a bad pick and J Walk could be very useful in Carolina, but I find it hard to believe Carolina will give up on him this quickly. J Walk won't be a Panther.

He may not be a Panther but I don't think that it would mean they would be giving up on Jarrett. They've gotten nothing from the #2 wr spot since Mush left. Smith tends to get banged up and so does Walker and having a good 3rd wr can be a good thing (NE, Cincy, etc.).

Exactly. I don't know how likely it is, but its definitely possible if he hits the open market.Other important factors

1) The team that signs him must have the cap room, and Carolina will.

2) Fox/Hurney must win now if they want to keep their jobs

3) Walker would get plenty of opportunity opposite Smith

The keys for him ending up a Panther would be if Walker and his ego can stomach not being a true #1, and if Carolina brass think the guy wouldn't be an attitude problem.

 

[cstu]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

If one considers how many shots David Boston has had i believe javon has at least this one and one more. I also believe that he has among the best hands in the league. The questions are on his knee, but the guy is a workout warrior. If it can be rehab'ed he is the guy to do it.

 

[MAC_32]

As a Browns fan I'd love to see him in Cleveland to pair him with Braylon and KWII. Joe J. could ride into the sunset or slide to the slot for a year or two. I really like the talent of Javon Walker. I think he is a very good WR if his head is screwed on right.

I do not want him in Cleveland. Our money would be better spent elsewhere; our defense needs addressed, not the offense. The Rams made the mistake of ignoring their weaknesses last offseason on an emerging team focusing on upgrading already solid positions, a couple injuries later, and now they're selecting #2 in the draft.

 

[delusional]

If one considers how many shots David Boston has had i believe javon has at least this one and one more. I also believe that he has among the best hands in the league. The questions are on his knee, but the guy is a workout warrior. If it can be rehab'ed he is the guy to do it.

That the only thing. The recent knee injuries are not good at all, even for a "workout warrior" like him.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

If one considers how many shots David Boston has had i believe javon has at least this one and one more. I also believe that he has among the best hands in the league. The questions are on his knee, but the guy is a workout warrior. If it can be rehab'ed he is the guy to do it.

That the only thing. The recent knee injuries are not good at all, even for a "workout warrior" like him.

Even if his speed is shot he can still be a very good posession receiver. He goes across the middle, has great body awareness on th esideline, always catches with his hands, and has a fairly large and powerful body.Granted, the knee is a very real concern.

 

[Chadstroma]

I would hate to see it but if he is cut, do the Chargers take a strong look at him? Walker next to Chambers in the WR corps seems to be to be very scary for D's when you also have to take LT and Gates into account. What about KC? They could use a WR opposite of the young Bowe. I would love the Raiders. Give some boost to the WR corps for Russell. So basically, do the Bronco's look for a trade at even a discount just to make sure he does not go to a division rival?

I highly doubt the Chargers would look at him. VJax seems to do well as the #2 alongside Chambers. If they didn't have Chambers maybe. There are very few teams that wouldn't be interested in him if he were cut.

I don't know... The D is pretty solid. If you add Walker to that offense and have VJax as a #3 WR- how do you defend that offense? It would be sort of like the Patriots but with a running game. Not saying it is going to happen but I do not see the Chargers saying 'no thanks.'

 

[broncofan13000]

Hope you enjoy being an Iggle, J Walk.

As a Walker owner i would love this. I could see Javon putting up top 10-12 #'s on the Eagles (as long as Mcnabb is back)

 

[Koya]

Why not the Jets?

 

[AnonymousBob]

Is this where we get to name any team that pops into our mind?

He's going to replace Marvin or Chad Johnson.

 

[Koya]

Is this where we get to name any team that pops into our mind?

Some teams have a need for a WR, some don't. Some have cap room, some don't.

 

[az_prof]

He'll never be a WR1 one again because of the knees but he could be a decent complementary possession player. I would like to see the Vikings get him to play opposite Rice.

 

[BassNBrew]

I don't know... The D is pretty solid. If you add Walker to that offense and have VJax as a #3 WR- how do you defend that offense? It would be sort of like the Patriots but without a QB and a decent coach.

fixed

 

[Scooby]

He'll never be a WR1 one again because of the knees but he could be a decent complementary possession player. I would like to see the Vikings get him to play opposite Rice.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

The Bears could lose Bernard Berrian and Moose Muhammad is an old man.

The Bears could use a WR to stretch the defense as their quarterback gets killed as he throws a pass off the hands of a disinterested Cedric Benson.

 

[loose circuits]

Walker will go to a West Coast Offense. that's all he knows. I would say Philly, Minny, or Seattle (if they don't re-sign Hackett)

He wants to be a #1 which is part of the reason he wants out of Denver. Says it's not big enough for BMarsh and him. Funny how things turn full circle (Lelie whined when he got there)

 

[FUBAR]

30 posts and no mention of Tennessee?

I wouldn't say his FF value would be top 10 (probably top 20ish), but he'd help the team make it back to the playoffs and beyond.

 

[encaitar]

Walker will go to a West Coast Offense. that's all he knows. I would say Philly, Minny, or Seattle (if they don't re-sign Hackett)He wants to be a #1 which is part of the reason he wants out of Denver. Says it's not big enough for BMarsh and him. Funny how things turn full circle (Lelie whined when he got there)

Philly and Minnesota definitely have to be at the top of his list. One of the reasons he wants out so bad is he wants to be the guy. Neither of these teams have a true No. 1 receiver and he could fit that role. Add to the fact that he already knows and excels in the WCO and I think these are two teams that will make a big push to get him.

 

[JetMaxx]

Walker's knee problems scare me big time.

 

[SSOG]

He'll never be a WR1 one again because of the knees but he could be a decent complementary possession player.

Many people thought the same thing after his ACL tear. There's a ton of risk involved, but Walker has shown in the past that he's a tremendously hard worker and has a reasonably fast recovery rate.The knee terrifies me, of course, but Walker still has top-5 upside if he can come back a second time as well as he came back the first.

 

[Phurfur]

Walker will go to a West Coast Offense. that's all he knows. I would say Philly, Minny, or Seattle (if they don't re-sign Hackett)

He wants to be a #1 which is part of the reason he wants out of Denver. Says it's not big enough for BMarsh and him. Funny how things turn full circle (Lelie whined when he got there)

I would not call this guy a team player, he is only worried about himself. No matter what happens he will have to restructure his contract next year.

 

[SSOG]

Walker will go to a West Coast Offense. that's all he knows. I would say Philly, Minny, or Seattle (if they don't re-sign Hackett)

He wants to be a #1 which is part of the reason he wants out of Denver. Says it's not big enough for BMarsh and him. Funny how things turn full circle (Lelie whined when he got there)

I would not call this guy a team player, he is only worried about himself. No matter what happens he will have to restructure his contract next year.

I don't know about that. There's a lot of speculation on why Walker wants out, but I think it's at least as likely that he wants to get away from the site of Darrent's murder as it is that he just wants to be the only guy in town.

 

[5Rings]

Call me crazy, but the worst passing offense in the league could use him out West. Also has a new gunslinging OC and plenty of cap room.

However, if I was him, I go somewhere with a proven QB, proven system, and a hole at WR....Philly.

 

[FUBAR]

Call me crazy, but the worst passing offense in the league could use him out West. Also has a new gunslinging OC and plenty of cap room. However, if I was him, I go somewhere with a proven QB, proven system, and a hole at WR....Philly.

If he's cut, I see Philly as a strong possibility. Seattle would also work if he wants a proven QB.OTOH, maybe Tennessee, San Fran, or Minnesota offer him more

 

[scott72]

Walker's knee problems scare me big time.

I love how all these teams should be falling all over JWalk. The guy is damaged goods, will demand a ton of money, and is not someone who is considered a team player. All of these teams could do better than this guy. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

 

[Weiner Dog]

It's amazing how Walker is still viewed as a potential Top-10 WR in FF. In 6 NFL seasons, the guy has only had one Top-10 season (ie. 2004) on his resume. Granted...injuries have cut short 2 of his seasons, but he's also played 63 of 64 games in the other 4 seasons.

For FF purposes, the guy is essentially a much larger Santana Moss with the added injury risk.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Would love the Vikings to acquire the talent he has, but not sure about the attitude.

 

[SSOG]

Walker's knee problems scare me big time.

I love how all these teams should be falling all over JWalk. The guy is damaged goods, will demand a ton of money, and is not someone who is considered a team player. All of these teams could do better than this guy. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Terrell Owens was damaged goods coming off of a season-ending injury, demanded a ton of money, and was not a team player, too. How'd that work out for Dallas? Both Owens and J-Walk have proven they rehab well and that they aren't slowed by changing teams, and few players put in more work on and off the field. Most importantly, both are special, special talents.The best predictor of future behavior might be past behavior, but the best predictor of future talent is most definitely past talent, and talents like Walker don't become available unless there are some red flags. That doesn't mean he's not totally worth the risk.

It's amazing how Walker is still viewed as a potential Top-10 WR in FF. In 6 NFL seasons, the guy has only had one Top-10 season (ie. 2004) on his resume. Granted...injuries have cut short 2 of his seasons, but he's also played 63 of 64 games in the other 4 seasons.For FF purposes, the guy is essentially a much larger Santana Moss with the added injury risk.

Walker finished 2nd in 2004 and 9th in 2006. My math might be off, but that looks like TWO top-10 seasons to me.Let's evaluate Javon Walker's career year-by-year shall we? Year 1, he's a rookie and makes pretty much no impact. Par for the course for all rookies not named Boldin, Moss, or Colston. In year 2, he starts to show flashes of big-time talent. He only snags 41 passes, but he averages a sterling 17.5 yards per and hauls in 9 TDs to finish as WR21 as a second-year pro. In year 3, he goes out of his mind to the tune of 89/1382/12, good for a second place finish. In year 4, he's injured in his first game. In year 5, he comes off of a 2-year injury, changes teams, and plays with a TERRIBLE cast of QBs... and finishes with 1207 yards and 9 scores, good enough for a #9 finish with every single WR red flag (character, changing teams, bad QBs, bad offense, major injury) working against him. In year 6, he gets injured in game 3... but all he does in his first two games is average 9/110 and lead the league in receiving.Looking at his career year-by-year, you see that he was bad as a rookie, but good as a second year player, and has never been healthy and NOT performed as a stud in any season since then. How anybody can criticize this guy for not producing is beyond me. Javon Walker was a guy who was on a 1600 yard pace last season before getting hurt. Santana Moss is a guy who hasn't been on a 1,000 yard pace in the past two years. Maybe you see some sort of parallel between them, but I sure don't.Also, their real-world NFL games couldn't be more different. Walker is almost as much of a deep threat as Santana Moss. He might not be as good with the ball in his hands, but his short and intermediate routes are a LOT better and he gets better separation in traffic. He has better hands, is a bigger target, has better body control, and is a lot stronger and able to adapt to a physical game (where Moss just disappears). Plus, according to the numbers, Walker is quite possibly the best red-zone target this side of Larry Fitzgerald.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Walker's knee problems scare me big time.

I love how all these teams should be falling all over JWalk. The guy is damaged goods, will demand a ton of money, and is not someone who is considered a team player. All of these teams could do better than this guy. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Terrell Owens was damaged goods coming off of a season-ending injury, demanded a ton of money, and was not a team player, too. How'd that work out for Dallas? Both Owens and J-Walk have proven they rehab well and that they aren't slowed by changing teams, and few players put in more work on and off the field. Most importantly, both are special, special talents.The best predictor of future behavior might be past behavior, but the best predictor of future talent is most definitely past talent, and talents like Walker don't become available unless there are some red flags. That doesn't mean he's not totally worth the risk.

It's amazing how Walker is still viewed as a potential Top-10 WR in FF. In 6 NFL seasons, the guy has only had one Top-10 season (ie. 2004) on his resume. Granted...injuries have cut short 2 of his seasons, but he's also played 63 of 64 games in the other 4 seasons.For FF purposes, the guy is essentially a much larger Santana Moss with the added injury risk.

Walker finished 2nd in 2004 and 9th in 2006. My math might be off, but that looks like TWO top-10 seasons to me.Let's evaluate Javon Walker's career year-by-year shall we? Year 1, he's a rookie and makes pretty much no impact. Par for the course for all rookies not named Boldin, Moss, or Colston. In year 2, he starts to show flashes of big-time talent. He only snags 41 passes, but he averages a sterling 17.5 yards per and hauls in 9 TDs to finish as WR21 as a second-year pro. In year 3, he goes out of his mind to the tune of 89/1382/12, good for a second place finish. In year 4, he's injured in his first game. In year 5, he comes off of a 2-year injury, changes teams, and plays with a TERRIBLE cast of QBs... and finishes with 1207 yards and 9 scores, good enough for a #9 finish with every single WR red flag (character, changing teams, bad QBs, bad offense, major injury) working against him. In year 6, he gets injured in game 3... but all he does in his first two games is average 9/110 and lead the league in receiving.Looking at his career year-by-year, you see that he was bad as a rookie, but good as a second year player, and has never been healthy and NOT performed as a stud in any season since then. How anybody can criticize this guy for not producing is beyond me. Javon Walker was a guy who was on a 1600 yard pace last season before getting hurt. Santana Moss is a guy who hasn't been on a 1,000 yard pace in the past two years. Maybe you see some sort of parallel between them, but I sure don't.Also, their real-world NFL games couldn't be more different. Walker is almost as much of a deep threat as Santana Moss. He might not be as good with the ball in his hands, but his short and intermediate routes are a LOT better and he gets better separation in traffic. He has better hands, is a bigger target, has better body control, and is a lot stronger and able to adapt to a physical game (where Moss just disappears). Plus, according to the numbers, Walker is quite possibly the best red-zone target this side of Larry Fitzgerald.

I watch the player. Walker is fearless across the middle, fights for balls thereby preventing interceptions, and has great awareness along the sidelines. He has superior hands and superior strength. His seperation has never been a function of speed so much as strength. He is going to make some team a very nice acquisition.

 

[Phurfur]

Walker's knee problems scare me big time.

I love how all these teams should be falling all over JWalk. The guy is damaged goods, will demand a ton of money, and is not someone who is considered a team player. All of these teams could do better than this guy. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Terrell Owens was damaged goods coming off of a season-ending injury, demanded a ton of money, and was not a team player, too. How'd that work out for Dallas? Both Owens and J-Walk have proven they rehab well and that they aren't slowed by changing teams, and few players put in more work on and off the field. Most importantly, both are special, special talents.The best predictor of future behavior might be past behavior, but the best predictor of future talent is most definitely past talent, and talents like Walker don't become available unless there are some red flags. That doesn't mean he's not totally worth the risk.

It's amazing how Walker is still viewed as a potential Top-10 WR in FF. In 6 NFL seasons, the guy has only had one Top-10 season (ie. 2004) on his resume. Granted...injuries have cut short 2 of his seasons, but he's also played 63 of 64 games in the other 4 seasons.

For FF purposes, the guy is essentially a much larger Santana Moss with the added injury risk.

Walker finished 2nd in 2004 and 9th in 2006. My math might be off, but that looks like TWO top-10 seasons to me.Let's evaluate Javon Walker's career year-by-year shall we? Year 1, he's a rookie and makes pretty much no impact. Par for the course for all rookies not named Boldin, Moss, or Colston. In year 2, he starts to show flashes of big-time talent. He only snags 41 passes, but he averages a sterling 17.5 yards per and hauls in 9 TDs to finish as WR21 as a second-year pro. In year 3, he goes out of his mind to the tune of 89/1382/12, good for a second place finish. In year 4, he's injured in his first game. In year 5, he comes off of a 2-year injury, changes teams, and plays with a TERRIBLE cast of QBs... and finishes with 1207 yards and 9 scores, good enough for a #9 finish with every single WR red flag (character, changing teams, bad QBs, bad offense, major injury) working against him. In year 6, he gets injured in game 3... but all he does in his first two games is average 9/110 and lead the league in receiving.

Looking at his career year-by-year, you see that he was bad as a rookie, but good as a second year player, and has never been healthy and NOT performed as a stud in any season since then. How anybody can criticize this guy for not producing is beyond me. Javon Walker was a guy who was on a 1600 yard pace last season before getting hurt. Santana Moss is a guy who hasn't been on a 1,000 yard pace in the past two years. Maybe you see some sort of parallel between them, but I sure don't.

Also, their real-world NFL games couldn't be more different. Walker is almost as much of a deep threat as Santana Moss. He might not be as good with the ball in his hands, but his short and intermediate routes are a LOT better and he gets better separation in traffic. He has better hands, is a bigger target, has better body control, and is a lot stronger and able to adapt to a physical game (where Moss just disappears). Plus, according to the numbers, Walker is quite possibly the best red-zone target this side of Larry Fitzgerald.

I watch the player. Walker is fearless across the middle, fights for balls thereby preventing interceptions, and has great awareness along the sidelines. He has superior hands and superior strength. His seperation has never been a function of speed so much as strength. He is going to make some team a very nice acquisition.

That is what Denver thought.

 

[Wingnut]

Call me crazy, but the worst passing offense in the league could use him out West. Also has a new gunslinging OC and plenty of cap room.

I like it.

 

[Weiner Dog]

It's amazing how Walker is still viewed as a potential Top-10 WR in FF. In 6 NFL seasons, the guy has only had one Top-10 season (ie. 2004) on his resume. Granted...injuries have cut short 2 of his seasons, but he's also played 63 of 64 games in the other 4 seasons.

For FF purposes, the guy is essentially a much larger Santana Moss with the added injury risk.

Walker finished 2nd in 2004 and 9th in 2006. My math might be off, but that looks like TWO top-10 seasons to me.Let's evaluate Javon Walker's career year-by-year shall we? Year 1, he's a rookie and makes pretty much no impact. Par for the course for all rookies not named Boldin, Moss, or Colston. In year 2, he starts to show flashes of big-time talent. He only snags 41 passes, but he averages a sterling 17.5 yards per and hauls in 9 TDs to finish as WR21 as a second-year pro. In year 3, he goes out of his mind to the tune of 89/1382/12, good for a second place finish. In year 4, he's injured in his first game. In year 5, he comes off of a 2-year injury, changes teams, and plays with a TERRIBLE cast of QBs... and finishes with 1207 yards and 9 scores, good enough for a #9 finish with every single WR red flag (character, changing teams, bad QBs, bad offense, major injury) working against him. In year 6, he gets injured in game 3... but all he does in his first two games is average 9/110 and lead the league in receiving.

Looking at his career year-by-year, you see that he was bad as a rookie, but good as a second year player, and has never been healthy and NOT performed as a stud in any season since then. How anybody can criticize this guy for not producing is beyond me. Javon Walker was a guy who was on a 1600 yard pace last season before getting hurt. Santana Moss is a guy who hasn't been on a 1,000 yard pace in the past two years. Maybe you see some sort of parallel between them, but I sure don't.

Also, their real-world NFL games couldn't be more different. Walker is almost as much of a deep threat as Santana Moss. He might not be as good with the ball in his hands, but his short and intermediate routes are a LOT better and he gets better separation in traffic. He has better hands, is a bigger target, has better body control, and is a lot stronger and able to adapt to a physical game (where Moss just disappears). Plus, according to the numbers, Walker is quite possibly the best red-zone target this side of Larry Fitzgerald.

Now...let's do this. Substitute Santana's name with Javon's name above and it'll be a carbon-copy.Rookie Season

Moss: 2-40-0

Walker: 23-319-1

2nd Season

Moss: 300-433-4

Walker: 41-716-9



3rd Season

Moss: 74-1105-10

Walker: 89-1362-12

What's happened since?? Walker has had two serious knee injures. More importantly, Moss has flat-out schooled Walker.

4th Season

Moss: 45-838-5

Walker: 4-27-0

5th Season

Moss: 84-1483-9

Walker: 69-1084-8

6th Season

Moss: 55-790-6

Walker: 26-287-0

7th Season

Moss: 61-808-3

Walker: upcoming '08 season

Should we factor in per/game stats and ignore season stats since Walker is always injured?? Sure...why not.



Career yards/game

Moss: 57.9

Walker: 53.0

Career TD's/game

Moss: 0.39

Walker: 0.42

You can haggle with a Walker owner whether he's a Top-10, Top-20 or Top-30 player...or you can simply grab Moss cheaper and have less risk and more expected production.

 

[scott72]

Walker's knee problems scare me big time.

I love how all these teams should be falling all over JWalk. The guy is damaged goods, will demand a ton of money, and is not someone who is considered a team player. All of these teams could do better than this guy. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Terrell Owens was damaged goods coming off of a season-ending injury, demanded a ton of money, and was not a team player, too. How'd that work out for Dallas? Both Owens and J-Walk have proven they rehab well and that they aren't slowed by changing teams, and few players put in more work on and off the field. Most importantly, both are special, special talents.The best predictor of future behavior might be past behavior, but the best predictor of future talent is most definitely past talent, and talents like Walker don't become available unless there are some red flags. That doesn't mean he's not totally worth the risk.

It's amazing how Walker is still viewed as a potential Top-10 WR in FF. In 6 NFL seasons, the guy has only had one Top-10 season (ie. 2004) on his resume. Granted...injuries have cut short 2 of his seasons, but he's also played 63 of 64 games in the other 4 seasons.For FF purposes, the guy is essentially a much larger Santana Moss with the added injury risk.

Walker finished 2nd in 2004 and 9th in 2006. My math might be off, but that looks like TWO top-10 seasons to me.Let's evaluate Javon Walker's career year-by-year shall we? Year 1, he's a rookie and makes pretty much no impact. Par for the course for all rookies not named Boldin, Moss, or Colston. In year 2, he starts to show flashes of big-time talent. He only snags 41 passes, but he averages a sterling 17.5 yards per and hauls in 9 TDs to finish as WR21 as a second-year pro. In year 3, he goes out of his mind to the tune of 89/1382/12, good for a second place finish. In year 4, he's injured in his first game. In year 5, he comes off of a 2-year injury, changes teams, and plays with a TERRIBLE cast of QBs... and finishes with 1207 yards and 9 scores, good enough for a #9 finish with every single WR red flag (character, changing teams, bad QBs, bad offense, major injury) working against him. In year 6, he gets injured in game 3... but all he does in his first two games is average 9/110 and lead the league in receiving.Looking at his career year-by-year, you see that he was bad as a rookie, but good as a second year player, and has never been healthy and NOT performed as a stud in any season since then. How anybody can criticize this guy for not producing is beyond me. Javon Walker was a guy who was on a 1600 yard pace last season before getting hurt. Santana Moss is a guy who hasn't been on a 1,000 yard pace in the past two years. Maybe you see some sort of parallel between them, but I sure don't.Also, their real-world NFL games couldn't be more different. Walker is almost as much of a deep threat as Santana Moss. He might not be as good with the ball in his hands, but his short and intermediate routes are a LOT better and he gets better separation in traffic. He has better hands, is a bigger target, has better body control, and is a lot stronger and able to adapt to a physical game (where Moss just disappears). Plus, according to the numbers, Walker is quite possibly the best red-zone target this side of Larry Fitzgerald.

Walker isn't even close to being in TO's league. TO has shown his ability to recover from injury much quicker and his talent his heads and tails above Walker. At least TO has the stats to back up his talk, Walker has next to nothing to back his up. The guy is a malcontent, plain and simple.

 

[scott72]

Walker's knee problems scare me big time.

I love how all these teams should be falling all over JWalk. The guy is damaged goods, will demand a ton of money, and is not someone who is considered a team player. All of these teams could do better than this guy. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Terrell Owens was damaged goods coming off of a season-ending injury, demanded a ton of money, and was not a team player, too. How'd that work out for Dallas? Both Owens and J-Walk have proven they rehab well and that they aren't slowed by changing teams, and few players put in more work on and off the field. Most importantly, both are special, special talents.The best predictor of future behavior might be past behavior, but the best predictor of future talent is most definitely past talent, and talents like Walker don't become available unless there are some red flags. That doesn't mean he's not totally worth the risk.

It's amazing how Walker is still viewed as a potential Top-10 WR in FF. In 6 NFL seasons, the guy has only had one Top-10 season (ie. 2004) on his resume. Granted...injuries have cut short 2 of his seasons, but he's also played 63 of 64 games in the other 4 seasons.For FF purposes, the guy is essentially a much larger Santana Moss with the added injury risk.

Walker finished 2nd in 2004 and 9th in 2006. My math might be off, but that looks like TWO top-10 seasons to me.Let's evaluate Javon Walker's career year-by-year shall we? Year 1, he's a rookie and makes pretty much no impact. Par for the course for all rookies not named Boldin, Moss, or Colston. In year 2, he starts to show flashes of big-time talent. He only snags 41 passes, but he averages a sterling 17.5 yards per and hauls in 9 TDs to finish as WR21 as a second-year pro. In year 3, he goes out of his mind to the tune of 89/1382/12, good for a second place finish. In year 4, he's injured in his first game. In year 5, he comes off of a 2-year injury, changes teams, and plays with a TERRIBLE cast of QBs... and finishes with 1207 yards and 9 scores, good enough for a #9 finish with every single WR red flag (character, changing teams, bad QBs, bad offense, major injury) working against him. In year 6, he gets injured in game 3... but all he does in his first two games is average 9/110 and lead the league in receiving.Looking at his career year-by-year, you see that he was bad as a rookie, but good as a second year player, and has never been healthy and NOT performed as a stud in any season since then. How anybody can criticize this guy for not producing is beyond me. Javon Walker was a guy who was on a 1600 yard pace last season before getting hurt. Santana Moss is a guy who hasn't been on a 1,000 yard pace in the past two years. Maybe you see some sort of parallel between them, but I sure don't.Also, their real-world NFL games couldn't be more different. Walker is almost as much of a deep threat as Santana Moss. He might not be as good with the ball in his hands, but his short and intermediate routes are a LOT better and he gets better separation in traffic. He has better hands, is a bigger target, has better body control, and is a lot stronger and able to adapt to a physical game (where Moss just disappears). Plus, according to the numbers, Walker is quite possibly the best red-zone target this side of Larry Fitzgerald.

I watch the player. Walker is fearless across the middle, fights for balls thereby preventing interceptions, and has great awareness along the sidelines. He has superior hands and superior strength. His seperation has never been a function of speed so much as strength. He is going to make some team a very nice acquisition.

From what I remember Denver thought he was a very nice acquisition as well..

 

[FUBAR]

I watch the player. Walker is fearless across the middle, fights for balls thereby preventing interceptions, and has great awareness along the sidelines. He has superior hands and superior strength. His seperation has never been a function of speed so much as strength. He is going to make some team a very nice acquisition.

From what I remember Denver thought he was a very nice acquisition as well..

And he was, until he got injured. IF he can get back to 100%, which is risky of course, he'll be an elite WR again.

 

[SSOG]

Walker isn't even close to being in TO's league. TO has shown his ability to recover from injury much quicker and his talent his heads and tails above Walker. At least TO has the stats to back up his talk, Walker has next to nothing to back his up. The guy is a malcontent, plain and simple.

If both players were fully healthy, I'd take Walker over TO today. Not TO in his prime, but easily over TO today. TO has better moves with the ball in his hands, but Walker has better speed and RADICALLY better hands. Walker's also a much better leaper. I don't know how TO has demonstrated his recovery rate better, since both players recovered from an injury FAR ahead of the estimated timetable. I don't know how Walker has next to nothing to back up his talk, given the consistent stud production while healthy.

From what I remember Denver thought he was a very nice acquisition as well..

From what I remember, he WAS a very nice acquisition as well. It's not Denver's fault that he got injured.