Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
How often do you suppose they have to hose down the Corridors of Power?
Pretty sure that was from a satire paper.and Maxwell [allegedly] has tested positive for COVID-19 while in jail.
They don't even care that they're being obvious anymore. Just doing it right out in the open.and Maxwell [allegedly] has tested positive for COVID-19 while in jail.
I’m pretty sure that story is fabricated. My bad for not sourcing info better.They don't even care that they're being obvious anymore. Just doing it right out in the open.
I appreciate your attention to this thread. Keep it up and I’ll try to keep an open mind on Julian Assange. Your “read between the lines” analysis lends well to this topic I think.Brooklyn’s MDC seems to have a problem with inmates mysteriously dropping dead:
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-inmate-mdc-dead-cause-unknown-kenneth-houck-20200611-3t2477sk3rhu3ho2dawq6p2txq-story.html
Thanks Snorkelson man. I hope people think it’s coming from a coherent viewpoint. Not just for sake of being contrarian or whatever.I appreciate your attention to this thread. Keep it up and I’ll try to keep an open mind on Julian Assange. Your “read between the lines” analysis lends well to this topic I think.
When were they recruiting girls at Mar-A-Lago?She's totally safe. They're only charging her with crimes from 94-97. Clinton didn't start flying on the jet until 2001.
His first criminal complaint was filed in 1996, and the girl worked for him in 1996, according to his Wiki. His first criminal indictment started in 2005 with another complaint. He was arrested in 2006.When were they recruiting girls at Mar-A-Lago?
Not at all. I appreciate your perspective on a lot of topics, and although I don’t agree all the time with your conclusions, you seem to be a pretty cynical and free thinker. I don’t expect a partisan post about Clinton or trump, and your particular understanding (and cynicism) of international geopolitics and how different countries might use the kind of leverage Epstein could provide is not something the average joe even thinks about.Thanks Snorkelson man. I hope people think it’s coming from a coherent viewpoint. Not just for sake of being contrarian or whatever.
If its the same spotting that I'm thinking about, they figured out it was a picture from an earlier date due to one of the movie ads in the background.Wasn't Maxwell spotted in LA eating at a restaurant and even acknowledged being "wanted" about a year or so ago? Pretty sure I'm right. I **hope** that the Feds were building their case against her and needed time. That plea deal that Acosta got for Epstein in Florida completely exonerated Maxwell and others.
Side note: the fact that Acosta got a job in Trump's cabinet needs to be brought up repeatedly between now and election day. ALL of us, regardless of political leanings, should be outraged at this. It needs to be Biden's sledge hammer. There is no way to sugar coat this: Donald Trump gave a cabinet position to a man who ensured one of the world's biggest child rapists got off nearly Scott free.
So the encounter and picture from In and Out is a fake/old? Did not know that.If its the same spotting that I'm thinking about, they figured out it was a picture from an earlier date due to one of the movie ads in the background.
Had to do some searching for it to remember the details, here's more about itSo the encounter and picture from In and Out is a fake/old? Did not know that.
Thanks buddy.Had to do some searching for it to remember the details, here's more about it
Trump was hanging with Epstein right around thenShe's totally safe. They're only charging her with crimes from 94-97. Clinton didn't start flying on the jet until 2001.
Right, but if they don’t get everyone, assuming they get anyone, you’re fine if it just gets Trump? If Trump was involved, bury him, but I want them all to burn.Trump was hanging with Epstein right around then
I assumed you were doing some Hillary is a murderer shtick.Right, but if they don’t get everyone, assuming they get anyone, you’re fine if it just gets Trump? If Trump was involved, bury him, but I want them all to burn.
Oh. Yes. Carry on.I assumed you were doing some Hillary is a murderer shtick.
One strange element of this is that tabloids, as sometimes happens (Edwards, Hart are two examples), the scandal sheets actually have better real time reporting than MSM who will not go near these salacious stories.His first criminal complaint was filed in 1996, and the girl worked for him in 1996, according to his Wiki. His first criminal indictment started in 2005 with another complaint. He was arrested in 2006.
I was making a joke btw. Some Trump guy suggested to me it was fishy because that's when Trump had contact with Epstein. So I looked it up, and sure enough, in a 2011 article, Trump said he kicked out Epstein 15 years ago. Then I wondered when Clinton was hanging out with him, and that looks to be from 2001-2005 according to the flight records. Is it fishy? I don't know. Edit: But in the end, Trump was friends with him in 96, when he was first accused (NYC). Bill was with him when he was recruiting girls in Florida.
I do find it fishy she was missing all of this time and just appears to get caught. Did she turn herself in? Just mess up? Seems like she was in deep hiding previously, supposedly in Europe. Why in the world would she come back here and not stay in France, where she'd likely never be extradited?
So if true this places JE/GM at Maralago in 2000-01.Between 2000 and 2001, Andrew and Ghislaine were together on no fewer than eight occasions.
Epstein was present at four of the meetings – at the Mar-a-Lago club in Florida (from where Virginia was recruited), in Phuket, at a weekend party at Sandringham, and at Windsor Castle. In addition, Andrew has often been seen at Epstein’s grand New York townhouse.
A 2001 Maralago appearance would definitely change the Trump narrative, but that's the first I've heard of it. His ardent supporters point towards him being so confident in "speaking out" about Epstein, they think he never knew anything. Trouble is, he's always confident to a fault.One strange element of this is that tabloids, as sometimes happens (Edwards, Hart are two examples), the scandal sheets actually have better real time reporting than MSM who will not go near these salacious stories.
So here the Daily Mail had some detail back in the day - 2011.
So if true this places JE/GM at Maralago in 2000-01.
I'll also say I think there's something odd about Trump's supposedly throwing JE out. First of all he lies constantly, about everything, and his motive is always (always) personal. Secondly there is nothing on the record on this. Third as far as we know Trump Org has never been subpoenaed for records surrounding JE's hunting ground. Fourth we know Trump had zero compunction with JE before it all started to become public, in fact Trump actively recruited JE to be active (socially I mean) at Maralago.
I don't think or want this to be about politics. It's true that Trumpists are right when they say there is too much consumption and obsession about the "bad" in OMB. - However the Maralago aspect is an important piece of this. But it's obviously not the whole thing. According to the GM indictment these three victims were at JE homes in not only South Florida (which IIRC the indictment actually says "Palm Beach") but also NYC, New Mexico and London. So there's either getting girls from SoFla to those remote locales or recruiting near them. The methodology of their predation will be a big part of what emerges here I'd think.
I don't even know how to pronounce it.Don't much care for the name Ghislaine. There, I said it.
Hard G. gee-LAYNEI don't even know how to pronounce it.
Is it a hard G like Gif?
Or a soft G like Gif?
Wow I was way off. Was pronouncing itHard G. gee-LAYNE
And also (sorry) Russia.https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/jeffrey-epstein-deutsche-bank-settlement.html?referringSource=articleShare
Odd. There's the Deutsche Bank. Again.
Last few minutes of this seem pretty depressing. She said they admit she's a pedophile in the indictment (I haven't read it), and then they just charge her with transporting minors. Expects her to get bail because of the minor charges. I think it was around 1:15:00 they talked about Trump and Clinton. The Clinton's were involved with Epstein prior to that, dating back to Arkansas... 91, at least, and I think in the 80's. Trump definitely was before and during the time period they are focusing. She makes a claim Trump screwed over Epstein in a real estate deal (shocker), and then claims Epstein was trying to set-up Trump with a minor (paraphrasing here). Also claims Trumps former wife went out with Ghislaine and recruited girls. I'm less hopeful anything will come of this. There's some kook involved after the part about Trump and Clinton, but I don't know if it's incorrect.I just started this Tim Dillon/Whitney Webb podcast. Not sure what's in here yet, but looking over her Twitter, it seems like she's really been into this. She retweeted a Tim Dillon tweet pointing a finger at Barr. There's an awkward climate change conference, fake ad skit Dillon does at first, and she comes on a little after 8:40. Edit: go to 33:00 if you want to just dive in where she starts talking about the Maxwell family.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udH8rIaC33k
Here's her Twitter, if you want to look over before devoting nearly 2 hours. She could be a kook for all I know; I've never heard of her.
https://twitter.com/_whitneywebb?lang=en
And there's this:
https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1279266146839957505?s=20
I recognize completely that there is evidence suggesting that Dershowitz may be complicit or may have engaged in some of the alleged behaviors, but I'd point out that Dershowitz isn't stupid. And he's made several public allegations himself lately (particularly, the accusation that the Netflix documentary dishonored an agreement and that two of the main victims in the documentary have arguable histories of making false allegations). I say this not to try to side with Dershowitz, but merely to point out that he's smart enough to not make these allegations and public statements unless there is some objective support to them.Alan Dershowitz @AlanDersh
I hope Epstein made videos
There have been suggestions that Epstein made secret videos of all the men who had sex in his houses and planes. I hope he did and they are all revealed, because they will prove I am not among them. I hereby waive any right of privacy in Epstein videos.
wint @dril
Replying to @AlanDersh
Hello Alan this is your lawer speaking. I am advising you today to please keep posting this ####
Or he is desperate?I recognize completely that there is evidence suggesting that Dershowitz may be complicit or may have engaged in some of the alleged behaviors, but I'd point out that Dershowitz isn't stupid. And he's made several public allegations himself lately (particularly, the accusation that the Netflix documentary dishonored an agreement and that two of the main victims in the documentary have arguable histories of making false allegations). I say this not to try to side with Dershowitz, but merely to point out that he's smart enough to not make these allegations and public statements unless there is some objective support to them.
People even if they are smart do not always act rationally, particularly if they are being squeezed.Then he shuts the #### up.
No doubt. And I do suppose there are heart doctors that may smoke or be obese. But I have a hard time believes Dersh would do something this stupid if it really is stupid.People even if they are smart do not always act rationally, particularly if they are being squeezed.
They're keeping her on a short leash, or at least one short enough it keeps her feet off the floor.Would it be that hard to put her up in a decent room and keep some guards on her til she testifies? To keep her alive for at least a little while?
I’ve always liked the COVID angle. Put her on a ventilator for a few weeks and have her lose her battle with the virus. More topical. Another jail suicide would just be lazy writing.
The Justice Department has added extra security precautions and placed federal officials outside the Bureau of Prisons in charge of ensuring there is adequate protection for Maxwell. That’s to help prevent other inmates from harming her and to stop her from harming herself, the official said.
Strauss means business.The other protocols put in place for Maxwell’s confinement include ensuring that she has a roommate in her cell, that she is monitored and that someone is always with her while she’s behind bars, the official said.
So she wants to die even quicker, eh?Big grain of salt due to source - but this article says she's going to spill all the beans.