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Jeopardy Baby, Ooooh-ooh-oooooh (1 Viewer)

Some think the producers brought James on to take pressure off of Treb

shuke said:
Watched him for the first night tonight.  It's bordering on unfair.  Other contestant in the middle looked like he'd seen a ghost before the first clue was even read.
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Don't hate him because he has skillz.

 
chet said:
Some think the producers brought James on to take pressure off of Treb
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Wait, what?  Some people are saying that the producers (who have been looking for the next Ken Jennings since Ken Jennings) did not want to put this ratings gold on the air, but changed their mind when they needed someone to take pressure off Trebek?

 
Don Quixote said:
Wait, what?  Some people are saying that the producers (who have been looking for the next Ken Jennings since Ken Jennings) did not want to put this ratings gold on the air, but changed their mind when they needed someone to take pressure off Trebek?
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From Reddit:

I have a theory that producers knew James would be phenomenal and placed him so he'd finish Alex's run with great ratings and a memorable streak.
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I'd like to see a situation where James becomes unbeatable and is still running as Trebek is forced to retire due to medical issues. But then that makes Trebek eligible to play and with his 30+ years of jeopardy trivia knowledge finally puts an end to his run.
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:lol:  

I thought something along the same lines. It's Alex's last hurrah and a hell of a sendoff for him.
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Punxsutawney Phil said:
So how does this end?  Bring Ken Jennings out of retirement?  Can someone be a contestant more than once?
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It almost ended on Monday when James won by only $18.  I think he'll be defeated by (1) not getting any of the Daily Doubles and (2) missing FJ (3) with a strong contestant like Adam Levin on Monday competing against him.  i think so long as James can capitalize on Daily Doubles and thus create a runaway game going in to FJ, he's going to remain champ.  

 
Walking Boot said:
He was up by $6000. He just didn't bet any more than he had to. Saying his won by only $18 doesn't really capture how big his lead was.

I mean, if he's got 29,999, and second place has 15,000 and second place goes all in by betting all 15,000 and gets the FJ question right, then James also gets FJ right and bets $2 to get $30,001, was it really a close game??
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He was up by $6k but if he  had missed FJ, it would have been all over.  James has been winning by creating runaways going into FJ.  If he ceases to have a runaway game, then FJ takes on a whole new meaning.  And one of these days he'll miss a FJ clue.  Just a matter of time.  

 
That guy probably could have been a 2-3 day champ at any other point. The lady on the other hand looked like she saw a ghost. They had to be 30 questions in before she ever rang in. 

 
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johnnycakes said:
He was up by $6k but if he  had missed FJ, it would have been all over.  James has been winning by creating runaways going into FJ.  If he ceases to have a runaway game, then FJ takes on a whole new meaning.  And one of these days he'll miss a FJ clue.  Just a matter of time.  
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Isn't he 19 out of 20 on Final? Someone will need to beat him by hitting the Double Jeopardy Daily Doubles before he does and actually wagering enough to build a lead that he cannot overcome without using them himself. I doubt he misses a Final Jeopardy that someone else gets right.

 
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Challenger needs James to miss either DD in first round or the first in DJ, then the challenger needs to hit final DD and get it right.

 
Galileo said:
That DD bet amount had to be someone's birthday.  He's still giving "shout outs" even when he can't  :lmao:
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He can wager any whole dollar amount.  (The lower limit is ten bucks, I think.)  The shout out thing refers to writing messages on Final Jeopardy like "Hi, Mom".

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
He can wager any whole dollar amount.  (The lower limit is ten bucks, I think.)  The shout out thing refers to writing messages on Final Jeopardy like "Hi, Mom".
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Yes, but he is not permitted to write the "Hi, Mom" type thing anymore.  Producers won't allow it.  So, betting certain amounts is a way to do a "shout out" to someone in his life who is watching without doing a traditional shout out.  There was no strategic value to betting 11,381.  I think that was the amount, IIRC.  I suspect 11/3/81 is someone's birthday.  

 
Galileo said:
Yes, but he is not permitted to write the "Hi, Mom" type thing anymore.  Producers won't allow it.  So, betting certain amounts is a way to do a "shout out" to someone in his life who is watching without doing a traditional shout out.  There was no strategic value to betting 11,381.  I think that was the amount, IIRC.  I suspect 11/3/81 is someone's birthday.  
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People write those messages all the time. He can’t do it anymore?

 
Have they started moving the daily doubles around?  I notice him going up higher on the board now early on and seeing daily doubles higher now to keep him honest.

 
PinkydaPimp said:
Have they started moving the daily doubles around?  I notice him going up higher on the board now early on and seeing daily doubles higher now to keep him honest.
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They've always been anywhere except the top clues. No idea about the frequency where they've been found. I doubt it's changed, probably just seeing conspiracies where there isn't any.

 
"Jeopardy!" champion James Holzhauer continues to annihilate the competition thanks to his quick buzzers, seemingly endless knowledge and the strategy — going for big money first and hunting for Daily Doubles early — that is turning the game on its head.

But the professional sports better nearly took a loss Monday after he won by $18. Brandeis College sports information director Adam Levin finished with $53,999 to Holzhauer's $54,017.

So what was Levin's secret, when other contestants say playing Holzhauer is like running "headfirst into a buzzsaw"? It turns out Levin had an advantage going into his game.

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Levin had a slight edge that day: Because the show tapes five episodes in one day, and selects 12 contestants to come to the set for 10 spots, Levin was one of two extra contestants called in on Tuesday, Feb. 26. He ultimately wasn't selected that day, meaning he was able to watch Holzhauer play five games before facing him in competition.

"I was able to note what he was doing and see how he was playing differently than ever seen before, and I was able to process that," he said.
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When Levin arrived to play in the first taping the next day, he was prepared.

"I was lucky to beat him on the buzzer a few times, and lucky especially to get a late Daily Double and keep the game close at the very end and make a big wager on Final Jeopardy," he said, adding that a fan site, thejeopardyfan.com, noted that his total of $53,999 is the "highest-ever regular-play non-winning score in the history of the show." ("Jeopardy!" officials could not immediately confirm that to The Globe Monday night.)

Levin added that he changed up his strategy because of his scouting, following the way Holzhauer would start at the bottom of categories and betting heavily on a Daily Double — he nailed a $12,000 bet on one in the Double Jeopardy round to keep it close.

Holzhauer continued his winning ways with his 20th in a row on Wednesday, tying for the second-longest winning streak in the show's history.
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PinkydaPimp said:
Have they started moving the daily doubles around?  I notice him going up higher on the board now early on and seeing daily doubles higher now to keep him honest.
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Correct.

Used to be most commonly found in the $1600 row.

But I read on one of the Jeopardy nerd boards the recent trend has been more DD than average showing up in the 1200 and 800 rows after James streak gained momentum.

 
the end of yesterday’s game was alex giving the answer and james ringing in.  almost like alex was asking james questions without anyone around.  it was wild.

 
Capella said:
People write those messages all the time. He can’t do it anymore?
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Honestly, what are the producers going to do if he writes a message?  They can't edit it for obvious reasons.  He's bringing a whole new audience to the show.

I think maybe he asked them for help because he was running out of people.

 
chet said:
Honestly, what are the producers going to do if he writes a message?  They can't edit it for obvious reasons.  He's bringing a whole new audience to the show.

I think maybe he asked them for help because he was running out of people.
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Sure they can. I read an article on Buzzfeed about a former Jeopardy champ. She said that yell cut all the time during the taping. They could just reshoot them answering the final question and have the same answers as when they put the shout out. 

 
chet said:
Honestly, what are the producers going to do if he writes a message?  They can't edit it for obvious reasons.  He's bringing a whole new audience to the show.

I think maybe he asked them for help because he was running out of people.
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They can provide in the rules that anyone writing a message forfeits their winnings for the day. Think a shoutout is worth $90,000 to him (or even $1000 to a 3rd place finisher)? 

 
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apalmer said:
They can provide in the rules that anyone writing a message forfeits their winnings for the day.
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That would be quite Draconian. I think if James let it slip in an interview that he was dinged for saying hi to a niece, there might be a kerfuffle from his fans.  They'd also have to adjust his total earnings that Alex announces.

 
chet said:
That would be quite Draconian. I think if James let it slip in an interview that he was dinged for saying hi to a niece, there might be a kerfuffle from his fans.  They'd also have to adjust his total earnings that Alex announces.
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It would be, but so is the "didn't phrase your Final Jeopardy response as question so it's wrong" rule or the "you misspelled a name so that it has an extra syllable, so it's wrong" rule.  Their game, their rules. And, all it takes is Alex saying when he reads the Final jeopardy response, "Oh, so sorry, you included a shoutout, which, as you know, is against the rules. I'm afraid you get no winnings today."

 
apalmer said:
It would be, but so is the "didn't phrase your Final Jeopardy response as question so it's wrong" rule or the "you misspelled a name so that it has an extra syllable, so it's wrong" rule.  Their game, their rules. And, all it takes is Alex saying when he reads the Final jeopardy response, "Oh, so sorry, you included a shoutout, which, as you know, is against the rules. I'm afraid you get no winnings today."
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That would never happen. They would just reshoot without the shout out

 
apalmer said:
As a practical matter, I doubt that either is going to happen. If contestants are told "don't do this" they won't do it.
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Challengers would never but if you've been on for 20+ days, you might.  I would.  You can see how James has become much more comfortable with Alex and the show in general.

 
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