timschochet
Footballguy
I thought he did. Maybe he'll make it next year? I'm not sure how this works if you don't make it the first time. But I think Bettis deserves to be there.
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Jerome Bettis doesn't make the list. (1 Viewer)
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Orange&Blue
Footballguy
No.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Probably but not today. Faulk had to get in, Shannon Sharpe was overdue.
DawgPoundNJ
Footballguy
He was the third best RB on the docket this time around.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Did they release the voting results? I believe that only 5 modern-day players can get elected per year, which means that Bettis might have received enough votes but finished 6th in the balloting.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Agreed
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Damn shame we don't have a forum around here dedicated to football.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Both Martin and Bettis should have been 1st ballot locks. How do the 4th and 5th career rushing guys not go in 1st ballot??Sharpe couldve waited another year...Dent and Sabol going in over Bettis and C-Mart is ridiculousETA: I just realized I was in the FFA and not the SP
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Flying Spaghetti Monster
Footballguy
C Martin before Bettis - if Bettis is even in the discussion.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Please don't make me go there during Super Bowl week, thx.
timschochet
Footballguy
Actually I screwed up- I thought I was starting the thread in the Shark Pool. The Mods can move it there if they want.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Best time of the year.
No way
onlyseventeenpoints?
Footballguy
Not close. Should never get in.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
sorry
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Bettis isn't a Hall of Famer. No surprise here, at all.
Fensalk
Footballguy
Bettis actually had three nicknames. He was drafted in 1993 by the Los Angeles Rams and was rookie of the year and first team all-pro. He was nicknamed the Battering Ram after that season. Myron Cope gave him the nickname the Bus. Bill Cowher nicknamed him the Closer because they could just hand off to him with the lead in the 4th quarter and run out the clock.
onlyseventeenpoints?
Footballguy
he will have another one: Jerome "the dude that has to buy a ticket to Canton" bettis.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Bettis should never make it.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Because it's not the Hall of Stats.
This conclusion only gets reached with the misconception pointed out above.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Current guys in Top 10 in yardage categories not in the HOF . . .Passing: BFavre (1), PManning (3), VTestaverde (7), DBledsoe (8) (KCollins will move to #10 if he plays next season)Rushing: CMartin(4), JBettis (5), LTomlinson (6)Receiving: TOwens, (2), IBruce (3), TBrown (4), RMoss (5), MHarrison (6), CCarter (8), HEllard (9), THolt (10)Obviously some of those guys are HOF locks . . . but several of them would have to be deemed as "borderline" or "not gonna happen."
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Jerome may or may not make it in someday. I don't feel too strongly either way, I understand the argument against him going.
Dermontti Dawson not making it yet again is the real BS here.
Dermontti Dawson not making it yet again is the real BS here.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
No, for 4 reasons: one, because the NFL only went to a 16-game season in 1978. Two, because many teams used 2 running backs until the 1980s. Three, because Martin benefited from weaker competition thanks to expansion. And four, because Martin benefited from improvements in the medical field that allowed him to avoid major injury.The NFL has had 156 1000-yard rushers in the past 9 seasons -- approximately .54 per team, per season.
Yet from 1970-77 the NFL only had 34 RBs that rushed for 875 yards in 14 games -- 0.16 per team, per season.
It's a watered-down stat.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
In time... not first ballot HOFer.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Doesn't matter. A guy who grinds out the tough yards in jumbo situations is going to take a hit to his ypc's, anyone with half a brain knows that.
nightmare
Footballguy
Your comparing RB's from different eras. Yes, I listed those stats showing C Martinversus every RB. E Smith, B Sanders and C Martin are the ONLY players to benefit?
M Faulk, E James, J Lewis, T Barber, E George, R Watters, C Dillon, F Taylor,
E George, A Green, T Thomas(HOFer), W Dunn, P Holmes, S Davis, G Hearst.
All of those rbs I listed are from C Martins time.
Are you saying their "weak" or the D's are weaker?
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I guess all 44 of the committee members who left him out had brains that were fully intact.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He wasn't deserving of first ballot status. Simple as that.
If you say so.Bettis played 13 seasons. He averaged more than 3.8 ypc in 4 of those 13, scored double digit TD's in only 2 of the 13, and has a season high of 31 receptions. I'll give him an "A" for longevity, and he did manage to win a SB, but i dont think thats enough to be in the HOF.
by_the_sea_wannabe
:sj:
hate to use it but - Hall of Very Good
DD deserves in and deserved in on his first try. Keeping him out is ridiculous, it is the same as them not letting in a Peyton Manning right away. The guy dominated his position.
DD deserves in and deserved in on his first try. Keeping him out is ridiculous, it is the same as them not letting in a Peyton Manning right away. The guy dominated his position.
i loved watching him run but i just never thought bettis was HOF-worthy.dawson undoubtedly should be in.
DawgPoundNJ
Footballguy
Ridiculous!Sabol should be the first one going in of this group and probably should have been there already if he had qualified. NFL Films created legends on the field, grew the game exponentially, and created fans. It introduced me to the game of football. I have no idea if and when I would have become a fan before NFL Films.Both Martin and Bettis should have been 1st ballot locks. How do the 4th and 5th career rushing guys not go in 1st ballot??Sharpe couldve waited another year...Dent and Sabol going in over Bettis and C-Mart is ridiculous
ETA: I just realized I was in the FFA and not the SP
Bettis best shot at getting in will be with a weak class of candidates. He's borderline HOF and I won't be upset if he never gets in. Dent IMHO should not be in the HOF. Sabol deserves it, but not at the expense of a no brainer pick like Dawson. Dawson gets robbed once again. How can a guy who during his playing days was considered the best at his position and probably top 5 if not the best in NFL history at his position not be in the HOF?
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You might have a case of him not being a HOF, but he was more than just a power back. Power back with very quick feet that very few in the league have ever possessed.
faulkfan
Footballguy
No offense, but please don't compare Emmitt with Walter. Had Walter been surrounded with the talent that Emmitt played with he would still be putting up 1000 yd seasons from the grave. Put Emmitt on the Bears teams that Walter played for and you would be comparing him to Curtis Enis.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Insomniac
Footballguy
It doesn't look like there are that many good RB candidates coming up in the next 5 years. Martin is clearly a better candidate and it's likely he gets in next year. After that, the next good candidate is Edgerrin James. I don't see anyone coming on the ballot for several years after that with a case over Bettis. Maybe the voters will take that opportunity to look at Terrell Davis but it seems the current voters don't value players who had a few great years and then had career ending injuries. Sterling Sharpe would be an example at WR. Maybe they'll go 5-10 years without electing any RBs. None of that seems likely. At some point, in a weak year, Bettis will get the 5th spot among modern candidates. (over a more deserving OL or defensive player)
Joe Summer
Footballguy
The only reason Payton didn't do it 10 times in a row is because there was a strike in the middle of the 1982 season!!! Payton played in 9 out of 9 possible games and rushed for 596 yards, which was on pace for 1000+ yards.Your deceptive use of stats is making your argument look weak.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
If Bettis or Ward make it they'll have to make it official and change the name to the "Hall of Steelers Who Won a Super Bowl"
Sinrman
Footballguy
He'll get in eventually. I knew he wouldn't the first ballot though. Maybe in 4-5 years. I think he'll sneak in one year when there's a low
# of new inductees. Over the next several years, however, there will be many big names that we have all grown to know that will be up
for a chance...
# of new inductees. Over the next several years, however, there will be many big names that we have all grown to know that will be up
for a chance...
