Jerome Simpson (1 Viewer)

[Johnny Blood]

I was a little high on Simpson during the offseason, but that was before the definite loss of Palmer and a few other negatives, notably how he interviews. The guy doesn't seem very bright at all. I would say he even sounded pretty simple-minded. After a few seasons on the team he seemed to have spent enough time there to grasp onto how things worked in Cinci, but now with Palmer gone, im sure the offensive scheme has changed quite a bit...at least enough for Simpson to fall behind on the learning curve again. I'm not expecting much from him anymore, at least not until later in the season if he even can bring it together. I can definitely be wrong, but I'm looking elsewhere for potential. I let him go in my main league.

That's nice, but I haven't seen any evidence that suggests there's a correlation between intelligence and being a good WR.

How about now?

 

[JuSt CuZ]

WHAT AN IDIOT!WHO MAILS THIS STUFF? lol

Nobody mails it. It just shows up.

Well heck, its never shows up here.

 

[hooter311]

any chance he gets probation? Is this his 1st offense?

You don't get probation for a felony amount of marijuana.

I'm not so sure about that. I've seen some people get probation for worse crimes. With overpopulation of jails, they sometimes do surprising things.this dude got 45 days & a suspended sentence for almost 3 Lbshttp://newportvermontdailyexpress.com/content/short-jail-time-and-long-probation-felony-marijuana-possessionNot sure we need harmless pot dealers taken up the prison system...

Felony amounts of marjiuana get plead down every day. Most DA's don't want MJ cases to go to trial.

What means this? And why do you know so much about drug law enforcement?

It means that the prosecuting attorney is almost always willing to lessen or drop some charges if the defendant is willing to plead guilty to a lesser charge rather than take the case to trial. Drug delivery becomes drug possession. Batterys become disorderly conduct. Very few cases ever actually go to trial for this amount of contraband. They either narc and get a deal or plead down. Drug cases are rarely open and shut. In the end pleading down still gets criminals in the system. Once you are there you usually #### up before you're off paper and the penalties become that much stiffer.1st time offenders don't get the book thrown at them in cases like this.

 

[hooter311]

Sentencing guidelines and mandatory minimums are two entirely different things. Felonys get pled down. This case isn't going to trial. Regardless of what happens to his NFL career, there is no way he sits more than 6 months unless other substances, guns, or a highly developed case was being conducted.It will most likely be a federal prosecution and not a state one because it was through the mail. Federal MJ trafficking for up to 50 kg is a MAX of 5 years. Trafficking charges probably don't stick in this case.

Good to know, thanks for the info.

Anytime. And his NFL punishment is still likely to detour his career for good, I was just saying that he isn't going to be spending all his free time behind bars.

 

[Couch Potato]

Read some bungles blog that said Simpson is probably looking at 4 weeks suspension by Goodell...sucks. I was looking to pick him up too.

You get 4 weeks for minor stuff. Highly unlikely IMO that running a distribution center will get 4 weeks.

 

[Couch Potato]

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110922/NEWS010703/309230004/Prison-time-speculated-Bengals-pot-case

From the article:

Authorities detained Simpson and Collins, but no one was arrested.

The investigation continues, with federal and state investigators sorting out who will prosecute the case and what charges will be filed - and against whom, Gregory said.

Since the drugs crossed multiple state lines, federal and felony charges are likely and there could be prison time, she said. Conspiracy charges also could come into play.

“These can be very serious charges,” Gregory said. “You are sending illegal drugs through the mail. Depending on the charges, I think at the very least there will be prison time.”

 

[Johnny Blood]

"At the very least there will be prison time", so at the most, what, execution? Stretched on the rack?

 

[Two Deep]

Maybe he'll turn evidence on the "shipper" and avoid jail time. Then we are down to just suspension by the league.

 

[hooter311]

Here is the result of a similiar case...

"Naperville man sentenced to jail in ‘marijuana by mail’ scheme

BY BILL BIRD wbird@stmedianetwork.com August 25, 2011 11:50PM

Reprints

Updated: August 27, 2011 5:14PM

A man from Naperville’s far southwest side has been sentenced to jail for mailing packages to another man that contained a total of nearly seven pounds of marijuana.

Ambrocio Bueno is scheduled to report Monday to DuPage County Jail in Wheaton to begin serving a term of periodic imprisonment, according to records on file in DuPage County Circuit Court. He will be jailed from time to time until May 23, court records showed.

Bueno, 45, last lived on the 4800 block of Clearwater Lane in Naperville’s Saddle Creek neighborhood. He pleaded guilty June 23 to a felony charge of the attempted manufacture or delivery of more than 5,000 grams of cannabis, court records declared.

Judge John J. Kinsella on Tuesday sentenced Bueno to jail. He also ordered Bueno to perform 400 hours of community service work and assessed fines and legal costs totaling $4,210, according to court records.

Naperville police and agents of the U.S. Postal Service began investigating Bueno and an associate, Andrew J. Hare Jr., last year.

Postal inspectors had detected what appeared to be marijuana in five parcels bound for Hare’s apartment on the 1500 block of West Jefferson Avenue, in the Will-O-Way area of Naperville’s west side. The packages were mailed from a fictitious address in California, a police spokesman said in January.

A grand jury earlier this year indicted both men. Authorities said Bueno promised Hare he would be paid to accept delivery of the marijuana.

Police, armed with a search warrant, confiscated the packages Jan. 21, just after they had been delivered to Hare. The parcels were found to contain a total of 6 1/2 pounds of marijuana.

Hare, 26, pleaded guilty May 10 to the same charge of which Bueno was convicted. Hare recently completed his sentence of periodic imprisonment.

Kinsella further ordered Hare to serve 20 days in the Sheriff’s Work Alternative Program and perform 50 hours of community service work. He also placed Hare on four years of probation and ordered him to pay $2,125 in fines and court costs, according to records."

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/news/7285696-418/man-sentenced-in-marijuana-by-mail-scheme.html

Different state but this guy got 20 days in jail, with work release 6 days a week, for getting caught receiving 3x as much.

 

[mcintyre1]

any chance he gets probation? Is this his 1st offense?

You don't get probation for a felony amount of marijuana.

I'm not so sure about that. I've seen some people get probation for worse crimes. With overpopulation of jails, they sometimes do surprising things.this dude got 45 days & a suspended sentence for almost 3 Lbs

http://newportvermon...uana-possession

Not sure we need harmless pot dealers taken up the prison system...

Felony amounts of marjiuana get plead down every day. Most DA's don't want MJ cases to go to trial.

What means this? And why do you know so much about drug law enforcement?

It means that the prosecuting attorney is almost always willing to lessen or drop some charges if the defendant is willing to plead guilty to a lesser charge rather than take the case to trial. Drug delivery becomes drug possession. Batterys become disorderly conduct. Very few cases ever actually go to trial for this amount of contraband. They either narc and get a deal or plead down. Drug cases are rarely open and shut. In the end pleading down still gets criminals in the system. Once you are there you usually #### up before you're off paper and the penalties become that much stiffer.

1st time offenders don't get the book thrown at them in cases like this.

To be fair, this isn't necessary true. The guy I spoke of earlier that spent 2 years in prison was a first offender (granted it was Ecstasy, not pot). It probably depends more on the attitude of the prosecutor than anything else.

 

[hooter311]

any chance he gets probation? Is this his 1st offense?

You don't get probation for a felony amount of marijuana.

I'm not so sure about that. I've seen some people get probation for worse crimes. With overpopulation of jails, they sometimes do surprising things.this dude got 45 days & a suspended sentence for almost 3 Lbs

http://newportvermon...uana-possession

Not sure we need harmless pot dealers taken up the prison system...

Felony amounts of marjiuana get plead down every day. Most DA's don't want MJ cases to go to trial.

What means this? And why do you know so much about drug law enforcement?

It means that the prosecuting attorney is almost always willing to lessen or drop some charges if the defendant is willing to plead guilty to a lesser charge rather than take the case to trial. Drug delivery becomes drug possession. Batterys become disorderly conduct. Very few cases ever actually go to trial for this amount of contraband. They either narc and get a deal or plead down. Drug cases are rarely open and shut. In the end pleading down still gets criminals in the system. Once you are there you usually #### up before you're off paper and the penalties become that much stiffer.

1st time offenders don't get the book thrown at them in cases like this.

To be fair, this isn't necessary true. The guy I spoke of earlier that spent 2 years in prison was a first offender (granted it was Ecstasy, not pot). It probably depends more on the attitude of the prosecutor than anything else.

That would be the difference between how weed and X are classfied.

 

[Couch Potato]

Rotoworld:

Jerome Simpson - WR - Bengals

The Cincinnati Enquirer's Joe Reedy would be "very surprised" if Jerome Simpson is active for this week's game against the 49ers.

The Bengals are expected to let Simpson chill after 8.5 pounds of marijuana were discovered at his house on Tuesday. He's no longer a hot waiver wire claim. Andre Caldwell is expected to move into the starting lineup opposite A.J. Green. We wouldn't rank Caldwell as a top-50 option this week.

Related: Andre Caldwell

Source: Joe Reedy on Twitter

Sep 22 - 3:43 PM

 

[az_prof]

I'm surprised a lot of people aren't seeing the gravity in this as far as Simpson's "career" is concerned. Bye bye Jerome.I dropped him from a couple of dynasty teams this morning after I learned of this, and he was immediately picked up by other owners. Whut? Folks, Simpson's NFL season is over. Possibly his career.He was "excused" from practice today. You can be pretty sure (even though it's the wacko Bengals) that he won't play this Sunday. And he WILL be arrested. He just hasn't yet due to whatever legal stuff the authorities want to do first. They needed to seize evidence first, two states are involved so the Feds must get involved, etc.Make no mistake, this is no small thing legally and career-wise regardless of your stance on pot. This was interstate, this was 8 pounds of an illegal substance and all the fixings, and this was his home. He's not going to get to pin it on some girl who signed for it. He's toast.And half the Bengals team will have to find a new supplier for their weed. Such a shame.Actually, with such a constant, consistent stream of criminals on that team for years and an owner who seems to think it's all just fine, plus his cheapness and horrible GM skills, that franchise ought to just be taken away and given to someone who can run it right. The league and commish are always harping about not 'tarnishing the shield.' Well, get rid of Mike Brown and you've solved a good portion of the problem.

I agree. Not sure how much jail time he could do, but even if it is the best case scenario someone else suggested (3-6 Months), which seems very optimistic to me, the league will suspend him seriously. I am guessing the league will suspend him for at least 8 games, if not a year. And then what team will want him? A guy who has a conviction for drug dealing? Who wants that guy in your clubhouse messing up the young kids and leading them astray? If he had Calvin Johnson talent, sure? But he isn't that good.I doubt his career is completely over, but it could take years to get it back on track--unless somehow the facts as we are hearing them are way wrong.

 

[Sweet Love]

Just out of curiousity, but how does U.S. Postal "detect" pot in an enclosed package? You would think someone sending that much product would seal it in an air tight bag, make sure none of it came in contact with the outside of the box, and throw some potpourri in to boot. Do they randomly open packages up ala TSA random checks?

 

[Johnny Blood]

Just out of curiousity, but how does U.S. Postal "detect" pot in an enclosed package? You would think someone sending that much product would seal it in an air tight bag, make sure none of it came in contact with the outside of the box, and throw some potpourri in to boot. Do they randomly open packages up ala TSA random checks?

I'm not sure it even was the USPS. I doubt it is legal for them to open a package without some other form of suspicion so they are probably scanned in some way.He may have been caught randomly but just as likely, given his abject stupidity, is that his home was suspected as a distribution point and incoming packages were subject to heightened scrutiny.

 

[hooter311]

Just out of curiousity, but how does U.S. Postal "detect" pot in an enclosed package? You would think someone sending that much product would seal it in an air tight bag, make sure none of it came in contact with the outside of the box, and throw some potpourri in to boot. Do they randomly open packages up ala TSA random checks?

Scanners and occasionally a pooch.Hopefully he was intelligent enough to ship it UPS and not USPS, keeping the postal inspectors out of it.And if one were so inclined, best way is to to plant the bag inside something like a jar of peanut butter. No scanner detection. No dog detection. Only really need to worry about laws with food when shipping outside of the country. You are correct about usually some kind of residue gets left on the outside of the package. 2.5 lbs of high grade bud would most likely have a very obvious smell.Small amounts they usually just seize at the office and send you a letter threatening with what you "could" be charged with. Larger amounts like this, they set up stings and come in with badges as soon as the package hits your hands. Doesn't matter if it is signed for.

 

[hooter311]

Just out of curiousity, but how does U.S. Postal "detect" pot in an enclosed package? You would think someone sending that much product would seal it in an air tight bag, make sure none of it came in contact with the outside of the box, and throw some potpourri in to boot. Do they randomly open packages up ala TSA random checks?

I'm not sure it even was the USPS. I doubt it is legal for them to open a package without some other form of suspicion so they are probably scanned in some way.He may have been caught randomly but just as likely, given his abject stupidity, is that his home was suspected as a distribution point and incoming packages were subject to heightened scrutiny.

If they had him staked out as a distribution point, they would have nailed him making his own drop, not receiving the package. Drug investigations work up, not down. Their end goal is the sender, not the receiver. They had to be alerted to the package's contents and then they have to plan the sting fast so nothing looks fishy on the tracking information side. Charges haven't been pressed yet, because they are now trying to put together a case based on what they have.

 

[mcintyre1]

any chance he gets probation? Is this his 1st offense?

You don't get probation for a felony amount of marijuana.

I'm not so sure about that. I've seen some people get probation for worse crimes. With overpopulation of jails, they sometimes do surprising things.this dude got 45 days & a suspended sentence for almost 3 Lbs

http://newportvermon...uana-possession

Not sure we need harmless pot dealers taken up the prison system...

Felony amounts of marjiuana get plead down every day. Most DA's don't want MJ cases to go to trial.

What means this? And why do you know so much about drug law enforcement?

It means that the prosecuting attorney is almost always willing to lessen or drop some charges if the defendant is willing to plead guilty to a lesser charge rather than take the case to trial. Drug delivery becomes drug possession. Batterys become disorderly conduct. Very few cases ever actually go to trial for this amount of contraband. They either narc and get a deal or plead down. Drug cases are rarely open and shut. In the end pleading down still gets criminals in the system. Once you are there you usually #### up before you're off paper and the penalties become that much stiffer.

1st time offenders don't get the book thrown at them in cases like this.

To be fair, this isn't necessary true. The guy I spoke of earlier that spent 2 years in prison was a first offender (granted it was Ecstasy, not pot). It probably depends more on the attitude of the prosecutor than anything else.

That would be the difference between how weed and X are classfied.

They're both schedule I drugs in the USA.

 

[hooter311]

any chance he gets probation? Is this his 1st offense?

You don't get probation for a felony amount of marijuana.

I'm not so sure about that. I've seen some people get probation for worse crimes. With overpopulation of jails, they sometimes do surprising things.this dude got 45 days & a suspended sentence for almost 3 Lbs

http://newportvermon...uana-possession

Not sure we need harmless pot dealers taken up the prison system...

Felony amounts of marjiuana get plead down every day. Most DA's don't want MJ cases to go to trial.

What means this? And why do you know so much about drug law enforcement?

It means that the prosecuting attorney is almost always willing to lessen or drop some charges if the defendant is willing to plead guilty to a lesser charge rather than take the case to trial. Drug delivery becomes drug possession. Batterys become disorderly conduct. Very few cases ever actually go to trial for this amount of contraband. They either narc and get a deal or plead down. Drug cases are rarely open and shut. In the end pleading down still gets criminals in the system. Once you are there you usually #### up before you're off paper and the penalties become that much stiffer.

1st time offenders don't get the book thrown at them in cases like this.

To be fair, this isn't necessary true. The guy I spoke of earlier that spent 2 years in prison was a first offender (granted it was Ecstasy, not pot). It probably depends more on the attitude of the prosecutor than anything else.

That would be the difference between how weed and X are classfied.

They're both schedule I drugs in the USA.

Yes, but the charges are not the same classification of felonies. Penalties are much stricter with X. If they were pills there is a very good chance they would contain some sort of methamphetamine when sent to the lab for testing, this could have had some effect as well.

 

[massraider]

Rotoworld:

Jerome Simpson - WR - Bengals

The Cincinnati Enquirer's Joe Reedy would be "very surprised" if Jerome Simpson is active for this week's game against the 49ers.

The Bengals are expected to let Simpson chill after 8.5 pounds of marijuana were discovered at his house on Tuesday. He's no longer a hot waiver wire claim. Andre Caldwell is expected to move into the starting lineup opposite A.J. Green. We wouldn't rank Caldwell as a top-50 option this week.

Related: Andre Caldwell

Source: Joe Reedy on Twitter

Sep 22 - 3:43 PM

Well, yeah, it only seems reasonable. Good news for Cincy area Domino's.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Just out of curiousity, but how does U.S. Postal "detect" pot in an enclosed package? You would think someone sending that much product would seal it in an air tight bag, make sure none of it came in contact with the outside of the box, and throw some potpourri in to boot. Do they randomly open packages up ala TSA random checks?

I'm guessing they either trailed, tapped or had an informant, so they knew where to look in the first place post-warrant especially given the size of the bust. Whoever ships out 8.5 lbs of m is probably shipping out other largish quantities to others. Just a theory.And oh I'm dropping Jerry Simpson as soon as I am able.Is he done for the year or for the forseeable future as a FF prospect or what?***************By the way YEARS ago there was a major drug bust involving a member of the New Orleans Saints. A very promising running back named Mike Strachan (in a great backfield with Chuck Muncie and Tony Galbreath, and later George Rogers) was caught in a similar scenario, and as it turned out he was dealing in the locker room (or at least outside it to fellow players). What they found was just the tip of the iceberg and it went elsewhere.And also, was it Bam Morris who was quietly run out of the NFL and then got busted moving literally truckloads of marijuana on Texas highways and byways?http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1842&dat=19820625&id=fBksAAAAIBAJ&sjid=88gEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1321,5311253

 

[Johnny Blood]

haha you can drop simpson for scott.

the bengals circle of life.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And kudos to Carson Palmer for finally saying "ENOUGH!" and getting the hell out of there regardless of the consequences.

And then there's this.This thing may be wider than is being let on.

 

[Couch Potato]

Just out of curiousity, but how does U.S. Postal "detect" pot in an enclosed package?

Easy. It was sent from here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weed,_California(not true, that was a joke)

 

[Ministry of Pain]

WHAT AN IDIOT!WHO MAILS THIS STUFF? lol

It happens way more than you think. Many states are already prescribing medicinal and medicinal outlets for patients. It's not a street drug dealer that mails this. There are big businesses and farms in Northern California and also Colorado. This is what I hear...

 

[hooter311]

Just out of curiousity, but how does U.S. Postal "detect" pot in an enclosed package? You would think someone sending that much product would seal it in an air tight bag, make sure none of it came in contact with the outside of the box, and throw some potpourri in to boot. Do they randomly open packages up ala TSA random checks?

I'm guessing they either trailed, tapped or had an informant, so they knew where to look in the first place post-warrant especially given the size of the bust. Whoever ships out 8.5 lbs of m is probably shipping out other largish quantities to others. Just a theory.And oh I'm dropping Jerry Simpson as soon as I am able.Is he done for the year or for the forseeable future as a FF prospect or what?***************By the way YEARS ago there was a major drug bust involving a member of the New Orleans Saints. A very promising running back named Mike Strachan (in a great backfield with Chuck Muncie and Tony Galbreath, and later George Rogers) was caught in a similar scenario, and as it turned out he was dealing in the locker room (or at least outside it to fellow players). What they found was just the tip of the iceberg and it went elsewhere.And also, was it Bam Morris who was quietly run out of the NFL and then got busted moving literally truckloads of marijuana on Texas highways and byways?http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1842&dat=19820625&id=fBksAAAAIBAJ&sjid=88gEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1321,5311253

Nate Newton got picked up with 213 lbs of schwag and 5 weeks later got pulled over with another 175 lbs.Bam Morris snitched to get his reduced.

 

[hooter311]

WHAT AN IDIOT!WHO MAILS THIS STUFF? lol

It happens way more than you think. Many states are already prescribing medicinal and medicinal outlets for patients. It's not a street drug dealer that mails this. There are big businesses and farms in Northern California and also Colorado. This is what I hear...

It doesn't take a very large drug organization to send a grower out west and set up a distribution channel.

 

[DoubleG]

WHAT AN IDIOT!

WHO MAILS THIS STUFF? lol

It happens way more than you think. Many states are already prescribing medicinal and medicinal outlets for patients. It's not a street drug dealer that mails this. There are big businesses and farms in Northern California and also Colorado. This is what I hear...

Oh, see? They just delivered the medecine to the wrong house. "You want Gerald Simpson down the block..."

 

[QuizGuy66]

Maybe he'll turn evidence on the "shipper" and avoid jail time. Then we are down to just suspension by the league.

wait isn't bshipper a Bengals fan?!? j/k gb

Given that this was a "controlled" delivery you have to think that the prosecution has developed a plenty strong case. Anyhow

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Just out of curiousity, but how does U.S. Postal "detect" pot in an enclosed package? You would think someone sending that much product would seal it in an air tight bag, make sure none of it came in contact with the outside of the box, and throw some potpourri in to boot. Do they randomly open packages up ala TSA random checks?

The package was probably labeled "Cannabis - Handle with Care"-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

I agree. Not sure how much jail time he could do, but even if it is the best case scenario someone else suggested (3-6 Months), which seems very optimistic to me, the league will suspend him seriously. I am guessing the league will suspend him for at least 8 games, if not a year. And then what team will want him? A guy who has a conviction for drug dealing? Who wants that guy in your clubhouse messing up the young kids and leading them astray? If he had Calvin Johnson talent, sure? But he isn't that good.

I doubt his career is completely over, but it could take years to get it back on track--unless somehow the facts as we are hearing them are way wrong.

The name Mike Brown rings a bell...-QG

 

[DoubleG]

Just out of curiousity, but how does U.S. Postal "detect" pot in an enclosed package? You would think someone sending that much product would seal it in an air tight bag, make sure none of it came in contact with the outside of the box, and throw some potpourri in to boot. Do they randomly open packages up ala TSA random checks?

The package was probably labeled "Cannabis - Handle with Care"-QG

"Keep Away From Open Flame"

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

any chance he gets probation? Is this his 1st offense?

Not familiar withKy or federal law on this matter. In GA you could get first offender. Remember larry allen was caught with 77 lbs or something and was still fine until they caught him with another van with even more weight.But Godell's power's don't kick in until conviction, and any attorney worth his/her salt should be able to at a bare minimum push this out past the season (a few months). Unless he cops an early plea (sometimes a requirement for various offers) I think this is more an issue for dynasty/keepers not redrafts. I'm guessing he'll have the best criminal defense guys in Ohio fwiw.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

any chance he gets probation? Is this his 1st offense?

You don't get probation for a felony amount of marijuana.

any chance he gets probation? Is this his 1st offense?

6 pounds....not likely

Depends on a lot of factors, but many times you can. The only really unknown at this point is the federal/state issue, as in most states things are a lor more lenient, plus you get 'good time'. In federal cases you must serve 90% of any sentence with no 'good time'.

 

[flapgreen]

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

any chance he gets probation? Is this his 1st offense?

For 8 pounds and all the paraphanalia for dealing? Guess it's possible, but doesn't seem likely.

http://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557from norml ohio drug laws page

http://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557I had to look this up too

1 pound = 453.59237 grams

so it looks like even if its 8.5 pounds, that is under the mandatory prison part. This is why you hire a good local lawyer.

Possession of less than 100 grams of marijuana is a citable offense only, with a fine of $150. Possession of 100 grams or more is punishable by a fine of up to $250. For possession of 200 grams or more, the penalty increases to a possible sentence of 6 months - one year in jail. Possession of 1,000 grams or more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. Any possession of less than 5,000 grams does not carry the presumption of prison, which leaves available the possibility of probation. Possession of 5,000 grams of marijuana or more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. For any amount or 20,000 grams or more the penalty increases to a mandatory minimum sentence of eight years in prison.Delivery of 20 grams or less, for no remuneration, is considered possession and is punished with a fine of $100. Sale or distribution of less than 200 grams carries a penalty of 6 - 18 months in jail. Sale or distribution of 200 grams or more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. Sale or distribution of 600 grams or greater carries a mandatory minimum sentence of six months and a possible 2 - 8 year sentence.Sale to minors, sale within 1,000 feet of a school, sale within 100 feet of a juvenile, and previous felony drug convictions all increase the penalty for the sale or distribution of marijuana.Possession of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 30 days in jail and sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 90 days in jail.For all drug convictions, the offender's driver's license is also suspended for a period of 6 months - 5 years. Professional licenses are also suspended. Conditional release: The state allows conditional release or alternative or diversion sentencing for people facing their first prosecutions. Usually, conditional release lets a person opt for probation rather than trial. After successfully completing probation, the individual's criminal record does not reflect the charge. Mandatory minimum sentence: When someone is convicted of an offense punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence, the judge must sentence the defendant to the mandatory minimum sentence or to a higher sentence. The judge has no power to sentence the defendant to less time than the mandatory minimum. A prisoner serving an MMS for a federal offense and for most state offenses will not be eligible for parole. Even peaceful marijuana smokers sentenced to "life MMS" must serve a life sentence with no chance of parole. Decriminalization: The state has decriminalized marijuana to some degree. Typically, decriminalization means no prison time or criminal record for first-time possession of a small amount for personal consumption. The conduct is treated like a minor traffic violation.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Bump up AJ Green?

Andre Caldwell was a guy I liked, with Shipley out this could pave the way for him to assume the #2 position. I can't imagine the Bengals are going to let Simpson continue to take the field until this matters clears. Goodell's head will explode.

so wait AJ Green is doing coke now?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I assumed cuz he was a bengal he was in Ohio.

gotta check KY.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Damnit Jerome. You work in a decriminalize state with fairly lenient weed laws, yet you live in Kentucky with MUCH worse ones.

people here are mistaking that just because he was found with 8.5 (well 2.5 in mail and 6 at home) that he will be convicted/plead to the same amount. Often times the pleas are to lesser included charges.

 

[Bob Magaw]

not sure how useful this is, but a legal perspective...

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/9/22/2442950/a-legal-perspective-on-jerome-simpsons-situation

"Admittedly when cases like Jerome Simpson's are raised from dormancy, we have a certain ignorance with legal issues. Furthermore the limited information being provided for an honest assessment isn't availing prognosticators much in what to expect. My reaction today is the same as it was yesterday: "he gonna get it now." But as such, there's more to the story than we always know. So we branched out and asked for some help in developing our base of knowledge on what could happen and perhaps what to expect.

We spoke with defense attorney Scott M. Calaway with Ross & Calaway L.L.C about some of the issues facing Jerome Simpson.

Narcotics agents were reportedly granted consent to enter Jerome Simpson's home, finding an additional six pounds of marijuana during their search of the house. Why wouldn't an arrest be made after the discovery of six additional pounds inside the home, along with tools for a possible distribution ring?

Often federal agents don't bring charges on these until the indictment comes through. Also it is common that they will not arrest the people but interview them to try to get information on the rest of the operation. Breaking a conspiracy, you move up. So they interview people and then try to set things up. Not arresting them can leave them with some leverage for negotiating with the people they have. They may even use these people to continue the operation for a while to get others (like who mailed it and how the operation worked). It's fairly common. They usually try to keep it quiet in the press when they do that.

Is it possible that with law enforcement determining who would prosecute, it would prevent any arrests being made and that those arrests will happen once it's determined who would prosecute?

Yes that is also a very real possibility. The spokesperson was from California. This could easily be federal since its is interstate and via mail. But really the feds had to be involved. They may just be deciding who wants it (state federal or the postal service may have their own, or who can give them the most time).

A third-party signed for the delivery of 2.5 pounds of marijuana. How much could both players be prosecuted if they had no part of the alleged operation, but were aware of it because it was in the house?

If they had knowledge of the operation but just let them use the house, they can be charged the same as the principal offenders under conspiracy. The prosecutors need only show an affirmative act on their part (i.e. use of the home) in the furtherance of the criminal operation, to prosecute under conspiracy.

If the feds are looking to expand their investigation that focus' on the overall operation (who delivered, etc..), could the players avoid jail time?

Rarely will the feds let you go completely free on that level of federal drug conspiracy. Honestly its too early to tell on the jail end. Depends on how they are charged and the full scope of the operation and their role in the conspiracy. But because it is pot the sentencing is lower than say, cocaine. I would harbor a guess that if they cooperated and gave them bigger fish, they have a small chance of avoiding significant federal time, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I would be surprised if they didn't do time.

If the feds decide to prosecute both players, could interstate commerce laws be brought into it?

Yes. Any prosecution by the feds would most likely be based on RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act). the interstate nature and use of the mail makes it federal.

If arrested, what's the worst case scenario that the Bengals players could face?

Too many factors to really tell. Depends on how they are charged. State or federal. Possession or trafficking or RICI (conspiracy to commit). If they have records or not. If they cut a deal or not. But on the facts shown, easily many years in prison. In Ohio on merely a state trafficking charge they would be looking at an F3 (1-5 years) with a presumption for prison. The federal sentencing would be MUCH worse. (Federal sentencing guidelines have too many factors to venture a guess without knowing the charges but they are looking at MAJOR time. I can't imagine this wouldn't be federal"

 

[Penguin]

Love it.Wake up this morning. Drive to work. Open email to check Wed night waiver processing. Missed out on David Nelson. Oh cool Jerome Simpson! Nice schedule. Dalton looks decent. Shipley out. Click on Rotoworld.

my world exactly. Missed out on Nelson, Moore, Decker - happy to get Simpson, now this

At least you guys know who to drop next week

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

FWIW why are the beat writers saying Simspon won't play this weekend? If he isn't being arrested, and he is only charged, like every other NFL player in a similar boat (to many to name) why wouldn't he play?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

FWIW from cbs sportsline

Bengals WR

Jerome Simpson, who emerged at the center of a marijuana scandal Wednesday night, was not at practice for the second consecutive day Friday. Head coach Marvin Lewis said his absence is excused. Now having missed two days of practice and future status unknown, it appears doubtful he'll play Sunday against the 49ers. "We'll see. We're still taking to people and figuring out what the best thing is for Jerome," coach Marvin Lewis said of Simpson's status for Sunday.



(Updated 09/23/2011).

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said he is not sure if WR Jerome Simpson will play in Week 3 after his off field incident earlier this week. Simpson was excused from practice Friday, Sept. 23.



2011-09-23 10:17:57 | Source: The Cincinnati Enquirer - Joe Reedy



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=742494-bengals-coach-uncertain-if-jerome-simpson-will-play#ixzz1YnrB2gB7

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

we should merge this with the other simpson thread

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=613344