Jets caught videotaping signals in Foxboro (1 Viewer)

[scapegoat]

Interesting that this is being ignored... the Pats were caught and this place lit up like a christmas tree. Word comes out that the Jets were caught doing the same exact thing and it's being ignored by the shark pool. I'm curious how this affects people's opinions of the Jets. Clearly they're "Cheaters" now as well, no?

Jets reportedly videotaped Patriots last season in Foxborough

ESPN.com news services

Updated: December 12, 2007, 2:54 AM ET

There's a new wrinkle in the Spygate controversy between the Patriots and the Jets.



According to a published report, a Jets employee was asked to stop videotaping the Patriots sideline during the first quarter of a game in Foxborough last season. Jets officials claim everything was above board.

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Bruce Speight, the Jets' senior director of media relations, told Newsday.



The Jets employee at the stadium was removed but the camera was not confiscated, according to the report. The employee's filming took place on the mezzanine level of the stadium.

The newspaper also said there was some confusion as to which Patriots home game the videotaping occurred. New York played at New England twice, including a playoff game.

In Week 1 of this season, New England was sanctioned by the NFL for videotaping the Jets' sideline. The NFL took away the Patriots' first-round draft pick, fined the team $250,000 and fined head coach Bill Belichick another $500,000.

On Sunday, New England is looking to improve its record to 14-0 when they host the Jets at Foxborough. The Patriots can clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with a win.

If it was "above-board" then why was the cameraman escorted out of the stadium? Reeks of trying to cover up hypocritical actions to me. I'm all for the Patriots punishment... as long as these sorts of violations are dealt with fairly an equally. To those like Reaper who are claiming that this wasn't being enforced by the league until this year so it's really not cheating (which is comical defense of an illegal action I might add)... note the following:

In a memo to NFL head coaches and general managers on Sept. 6, 2006, NFL executive vice president of football operations Ray Anderson wrote: "Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

So... now clearly the Jets have to be viewed as "Cheaters" as well.. no? Makes one consider that anonymous reports that this sort of thing was widespread might have been right.

If so, then would you react toward your own team with the same vitrol with which many of you attacked the Patriots if it came out that your team were engaged in videotaping signals as well?

 

[g5jamz]

Mangini and Belicheck should be banned from the NFL. They are the problem.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Interesting that this is being ignored... the Pats were caught and this place lit up like a christmas tree. Word comes out that the Jets were caught doing the same exact thing and it's being ignored by the shark pool. I'm curious how this affects people's opinions of the Jets. Clearly they're "Cheaters" now as well, no?

Jets reportedly videotaped Patriots last season in Foxborough

ESPN.com news services

Updated: December 12, 2007, 2:54 AM ET

There's a new wrinkle in the Spygate controversy between the Patriots and the Jets.



According to a published report, a Jets employee was asked to stop videotaping the Patriots sideline during the first quarter of a game in Foxborough last season. Jets officials claim everything was above board.

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Bruce Speight, the Jets' senior director of media relations, told Newsday.



The Jets employee at the stadium was removed but the camera was not confiscated, according to the report. The employee's filming took place on the mezzanine level of the stadium.

The newspaper also said there was some confusion as to which Patriots home game the videotaping occurred. New York played at New England twice, including a playoff game.

In Week 1 of this season, New England was sanctioned by the NFL for videotaping the Jets' sideline. The NFL took away the Patriots' first-round draft pick, fined the team $250,000 and fined head coach Bill Belichick another $500,000.

On Sunday, New England is looking to improve its record to 14-0 when they host the Jets at Foxborough. The Patriots can clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with a win.

If it was "above-board" then why was the cameraman escorted out of the stadium? Reeks of trying to cover up hypocritical actions to me. I'm all for the Patriots punishment... as long as these sorts of violations are dealt with fairly an equally. To those like Reaper who are claiming that this wasn't being enforced by the league until this year so it's really not cheating (which is comical defense of an illegal action I might add)... note the following:

In a memo to NFL head coaches and general managers on Sept. 6, 2006, NFL executive vice president of football operations Ray Anderson wrote: "Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

So... now clearly the Jets have to be viewed as "Cheaters" as well.. no? Makes one consider that anonymous reports that this sort of thing was widespread might have been right.

If so, then would you react toward your own team with the same vitrol with which many of you attacked the Patriots if it came out that your team were engaged in videotaping signals as well?

Let it go buddy.

 

[scapegoat]

Mangini and Belicheck should be banned from the NFL. They are the problem.

Okay.. so now we've added to the list... NE as well as NYJ are cheaters.If your favorite team was caught with cameras, would you attack them with the same vitrol as you have NE and NYJ? Serious question.

 

[Reaper]

They're excited again...

Oblivious to the real reasons why that thread exploded and all Pats things seem to explode...

LET IT GO...

Yeah, Asterisk Mangini IF he gets caught - take away a pick IF he gets caught.... Otherwise Geez dude move on.

 

[scapegoat]

Let it go buddy.

So New England gets caught and the Shark Pool explodes. The Jets get caught and it should be brushed under the rug? I'm just curious why that's the case? Clearly a team cheating is "a threat to the integrity of the league" and such violations should be dealt with in a "serious manner". Are you not worried about the integrity of the league? Is it not reasonable to expect a balanced enforcement of the leagues rules? Clearly everyone here is still concerned about teams who cheat via video-tape... right?

 

[SteelCat]

Camera man was a double agent working for Bellicheat.

 

[scapegoat]

They're excited again...Oblivious to the real reasons why that thread exploded and all Pats things seem to explode...LET IT GO...Yeah, Asterisk Mangini IF he gets caught - take away a pick IF he gets caught.... Otherwise Geez dude move on.

How is having a cameraman being caught videotaping signals and being forced to league the stadium after a league warning about that sort of activity not "getting caught"? It sure sounds like they were caught to me...no?I'm curious why you're so eager to brush this under the rug.... you were very concerned about the Integrity of the league Week 1.... is that no longer a concern for you? I, for one, am VERY concerned about maintaining a fair and level playing field. This sort of activity is completely unacceptable.

 

[g5jamz]

Mangini and Belicheck should be banned from the NFL. They are the problem.

Okay.. so now we've added to the list... NE as well as NYJ are cheaters.If your favorite team was caught with cameras, would you attack them with the same vitrol as you have NE and NYJ? Serious question.

My team got busted for steroids use...and yes...I attacked them.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

They're excited again...Oblivious to the real reasons why that thread exploded and all Pats things seem to explode...LET IT GO...Yeah, Asterisk Mangini IF he gets caught - take away a pick IF he gets caught.... Otherwise Geez dude move on.

Yeah, they should. They should asterisk the Jets season too. Let it go.

 

[sho nuff]

Let it go buddy.

So New England gets caught and the Shark Pool explodes. The Jets get caught and it should be brushed under the rug? I'm just curious why that's the case? Clearly a team cheating is "a threat to the integrity of the league" and such violations should be dealt with in a "serious manner". Are you not worried about the integrity of the league? Is it not reasonable to expect a balanced enforcement of the leagues rules? Clearly everyone here is still concerned about teams who cheat via video-tape... right?

NE got caught by the NFL...after being warned.Right now...all you have is allegations in a report...nothing from the NFL...no being caught...the guy was not on the sidelines like the Pats guy either...and right now claim to have done it within the NFL rules.Clearly, either all of the facts have not come out yet...or this is pretty much nothing and the league has already figured out its nothing.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Camera man was a double agent working for Bellicheat.

'xactlyor the Jets just aren't any good at cheating as well: o )-QG

 

[g5jamz]

BUT...I find what NE did more agregious as there was a REemphasis of the rule at the beginning of the year specifically concerning this by the NFL office.

 

[MDSkinner]

Let it go buddy.

So New England gets caught and the Shark Pool explodes. The Jets get caught and it should be brushed under the rug? I'm just curious why that's the case? Clearly a team cheating is "a threat to the integrity of the league" and such violations should be dealt with in a "serious manner". Are you not worried about the integrity of the league? Is it not reasonable to expect a balanced enforcement of the leagues rules? Clearly everyone here is still concerned about teams who cheat via video-tape... right?

Because it was not working for the Jets?If the Jets were trying to go undefeated there would be plenty of haters for them too. Why is this a difficult concept to grasp?

 

[scapegoat]

Let it go buddy.

So New England gets caught and the Shark Pool explodes. The Jets get caught and it should be brushed under the rug? I'm just curious why that's the case? Clearly a team cheating is "a threat to the integrity of the league" and such violations should be dealt with in a "serious manner". Are you not worried about the integrity of the league? Is it not reasonable to expect a balanced enforcement of the leagues rules? Clearly everyone here is still concerned about teams who cheat via video-tape... right?

Because it was not working for the Jets?If the Jets were trying to go undefeated there would be plenty of haters for them too. Why is this a difficult concept to grasp?

Wait.. so cheating is condoned for teams with losing records? Is this a widely accepted viewpoint here in the Shark Pool? Seriously? So the uproar really had nothing to do with "protecting the integrity of the league"? Surely the motive behind the uproar wasn't THAT much of a ruse.... I thought much higher of the posters here in the Pool. I'm very interested in seeing this thread involve into a discussion of this Jets incident, and perhaps why it seems to be "okay" that they cheated.

 

[Perfect Tommy]

I think it is sad how some Patriots fans take every report of anything as somehow justifying the Patriots cheating. IF the Jets did the same thing, they should be punished. But some report of something that is vaguely similar to what the Patriots did is not the same thing. And if the Jets or some other team does cheat, it in no way lessens what the Patriots did.

 

[wadegarrett]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules"

Not sure what the problem is.

 

[scapegoat]

BUT...I find what NE did more agregious as there was a REemphasis of the rule at the beginning of the year specifically concerning this by the NFL office.

I see so cheating before a warning is okay. Cheating after 1 warning is okay.Cheating after 2 warnings is not okay? Just trying to get the ground rules established here. I'm being sincere as well. Why, is this condoned by so many? Surely it's not because of some arbitrary 2 warning threshold?

 

[scapegoat]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules"

Not sure what the problem is.

Sounds like a CYA statement from the Jets. 1) If it was okay.. why was the cameraman stopped and ejected?2) The league's RULES clearly state no videotaping of any kind from anywhere accessible by staff. he was in violation of the league rules... and he was ejected just like the Pats cameraman.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Bruce Speight, the Jets' senior director of media relations, told Newsday.

Nothing to see here, except for this:

 

[SteelCat]

The camera man, in question, has since been turned into the League Office and destroyed.

 

[TheFanatic]

BUT...I find what NE did more agregious as there was a REemphasis of the rule at the beginning of the year specifically concerning this by the NFL office.

I see so cheating before a warning is okay. Cheating after 1 warning is okay.Cheating after 2 warnings is not okay? Just trying to get the ground rules established here. I'm being sincere as well. Why, is this condoned by so many? Surely it's not because of some arbitrary 2 warning threshold?

Move along. Nothing to see here. Move along. Let it go. Gotta be something more riveting than this to discuss in the SP...

 

[scapegoat]

I think it is sad how some Patriots fans take every report of anything as somehow justifying the Patriots cheating. IF the Jets did the same thing, they should be punished. But some report of something that is vaguely similar to what the Patriots did is not the same thing. And if the Jets or some other team does cheat, it in no way lessens what the Patriots did.

I agree wholeheartedly. I am ashamed the Pats cheated by videotaping signals. I am GLAD they were hit with the most severe punihsment in the history of the NFL. I am proud to see them so successful this year without using tape. That said this thread is not about the Patriots.. but about the Jets. I expect the rest of the fan base to hold other teams to the same standard of integrity. The Jets were caught doing the SAME THING the Patriots were caught doing.

 

[wadegarrett]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules"

Not sure what the problem is.

Sounds like a CYA statement from the Jets. 1) If it was okay.. why was the cameraman stopped and ejected?2) The league's RULES clearly state no videotaping of any kind from anywhere accessible by staff. he was in violation of the league rules... and he was ejected just like the Pats cameraman.

So Bruce is lying then?

 

[scapegoat]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Bruce Speight, the Jets' senior director of media relations, told Newsday.

Nothing to see here, except for this:

LINK >

 

[sho nuff]

Let it go buddy.

So New England gets caught and the Shark Pool explodes. The Jets get caught and it should be brushed under the rug? I'm just curious why that's the case? Clearly a team cheating is "a threat to the integrity of the league" and such violations should be dealt with in a "serious manner". Are you not worried about the integrity of the league? Is it not reasonable to expect a balanced enforcement of the leagues rules? Clearly everyone here is still concerned about teams who cheat via video-tape... right?

Because it was not working for the Jets?If the Jets were trying to go undefeated there would be plenty of haters for them too. Why is this a difficult concept to grasp?

Only problem with this thought process...people were erupting and it was week 1. Yes...they were undefeated...1-0.

 

[sho nuff]

I think it is sad how some Patriots fans take every report of anything as somehow justifying the Patriots cheating. IF the Jets did the same thing, they should be punished. But some report of something that is vaguely similar to what the Patriots did is not the same thing. And if the Jets or some other team does cheat, it in no way lessens what the Patriots did.

Don't use logic against these people...they will not stand for any of that.

 

[parrot]

BUT...I find what NE did more agregious as there was a REemphasis of the rule at the beginning of the year specifically concerning this by the NFL office.

I don't know that there was any REemphasis. I'm starting to think this is a misconception due to shoddy reporting of when the memo was actually sent.

 

[sho nuff]

I think it is sad how some Patriots fans take every report of anything as somehow justifying the Patriots cheating. IF the Jets did the same thing, they should be punished. But some report of something that is vaguely similar to what the Patriots did is not the same thing. And if the Jets or some other team does cheat, it in no way lessens what the Patriots did.

I agree wholeheartedly. I am ashamed the Pats cheated by videotaping signals. I am GLAD they were hit with the most severe punihsment in the history of the NFL. I am proud to see them so successful this year without using tape. That said this thread is not about the Patriots.. but about the Jets. I expect the rest of the fan base to hold other teams to the same standard of integrity. The Jets were caught doing the SAME THING the Patriots were caught doing.

Except they were not caught doing the SAME THING.And the NFL did not bust them the way they did the Pats.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Please god, make it stop. WTF will it take to make Pat's fans happy? Seriously.

 

[MDSkinner]

Wait.. so cheating is condoned for teams with losing records? Is this a widely accepted viewpoint here in the Shark Pool? Seriously? So the uproar really had nothing to do with "protecting the integrity of the league"? Surely the motive behind the uproar wasn't THAT much of a ruse.... I thought much higher of the posters here in the Pool. I'm very interested in seeing this thread involve into a discussion of this Jets incident, and perhaps why it seems to be "okay" that they cheated.

I don't think anyone here ever said it was "okay". I know I didn't.It is simply that people do not care because it is a losing team. Again, is this so difficult to grasp? I doubt anyone thinks that it is good that they did this, it is just not as fun to pick on the hapless Jets. This message board is for entertainment purposes last time I checked, and it is not entertaining to bash a pathetically bad team.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

LOL @ Pats fans finding solace that they are not alone in their mudhole but might have the company of their hated ex.

 

[scapegoat]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules"

Not sure what the problem is.

Sounds like a CYA statement from the Jets. 1) If it was okay.. why was the cameraman stopped and ejected?2) The league's RULES clearly state no videotaping of any kind from anywhere accessible by staff. he was in violation of the league rules... and he was ejected just like the Pats cameraman.

So Bruce is lying then?

Apparently. Why would an authorized cameraman be stopped and ejected? Seems pretty obvious the Pats allowed the Jets cameraman to shoot some B-roll of the crowd or something and he was stopped and ejected when it became obvious he wasn't shooting what he claimed to be, and instead was cheating by shooting signals.

 

[scapegoat]

LOL @ Pats fans finding solace that they are not alone in their mudhole but might have the company of their hated ex.

I take no solace in this... I just want league rules to be enforced fairly and evenly. Don't you?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

BUT...I find what NE did more agregious as there was a REemphasis of the rule at the beginning of the year specifically concerning this by the NFL office.

I see so cheating before a warning is okay. Cheating after 1 warning is okay.Cheating after 2 warnings is not okay? Just trying to get the ground rules established here. I'm being sincere as well. Why, is this condoned by so many? Surely it's not because of some arbitrary 2 warning threshold?

Move along. Nothing to see here. Move along. Let it go. Gotta be something more riveting than this to discuss in the SP...

I hope you understand why there is NFW this is going to be let go after the smack that has been laid down in this forum by those "concerned with the integrity of the game".

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Bruce Speight, the Jets' senior director of media relations, told Newsday.

Nothing to see here, except for this:

LINK >

LINK >

 

[scapegoat]

Please god, make it stop. WTF will it take to make Pat's fans happy? Seriously.

Are you not upset that a team was found to be cheating?! As one of the most vocal attackers of the Patriots cheating.... you clearly wanted to protect the integrity of the league, right? HEre is another clear violation of league rules.... and not just any rule..it's the SAME violation. Clearly this is worth of ONE thread.

 

[wadegarrett]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules"

Not sure what the problem is.

Sounds like a CYA statement from the Jets. 1) If it was okay.. why was the cameraman stopped and ejected?2) The league's RULES clearly state no videotaping of any kind from anywhere accessible by staff. he was in violation of the league rules... and he was ejected just like the Pats cameraman.

So Bruce is lying then?

Apparently. Why would an authorized cameraman be stopped and ejected? Seems pretty obvious the Pats allowed the Jets cameraman to shoot some B-roll of the crowd or something and he was stopped and ejected when it became obvious he wasn't shooting what he claimed to be, and instead was cheating by shooting signals.

I can't believe you have your panties all in a bunch over this.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

LOL @ Pats fans finding solace that they are not alone in their mudhole but might have the company of their hated ex.

I take no solace in this... I just want league rules to be enforced fairly and evenly. Don't you?

Of course. I would never say otherwise. Of course I would rather that coaches, leaders of men and examples to our youth, were not low down paranoid petty cheaters to begin with. But yes, when they are the rules apply equally to the successful cheaters and the truely pathetic unsuccessful ones as well.

 

[sho nuff]

LOL @ Pats fans finding solace that they are not alone in their mudhole but might have the company of their hated ex.

I take no solace in this... I just want league rules to be enforced fairly and evenly. Don't you?

If they are found to have violated league rules...then yes.So far, all we have is an allegation in this report.

 

[scapegoat]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Bruce Speight, the Jets' senior director of media relations, told Newsday.

Nothing to see here, except for this:

LINK >

LINK >

LINK >We can play this game all day but anyone who's been involved in video production knows that cameras are frequently used to shoot B-Roll of stadiums and crowds for team productions.

The guy was NOT given permission by the patriots to videotape team signals... he was caught doing so and was ejected.....let's use our heads here. This is not a tough concept to grasp.

 

[sho nuff]

Please god, make it stop. WTF will it take to make Pat's fans happy? Seriously.

Are you not upset that a team was found to be cheating?! As one of the most vocal attackers of the Patriots cheating.... you clearly wanted to protect the integrity of the league, right? HEre is another clear violation of league rules.... and not just any rule..it's the SAME violation. Clearly this is worth of ONE thread.

Umm....they have been reportedly possibly cheating. They have not been found to be cheating. You keep posting it as if they were just stone cold busted by the league.It is not "clear" at this point (something you just don't get and appear to be letting your bias get in the way here).

 

[Road Warriors]

I think it is sad how some Patriots fans take every report of anything as somehow justifying the Patriots cheating. IF the Jets did the same thing, they should be punished. But some report of something that is vaguely similar to what the Patriots did is not the same thing. And if the Jets or some other team does cheat, it in no way lessens what the Patriots did.

Calling this out is in no way trying to mitigate what the Pats did. Many have acknowledged they broke the rules and have been punished for it. What's curious here is the story that the Patriots caught the Jets a year prior to the Spygate issue occurred, handled it in house ( ie. did NOT report it to the NFL offices ), and as such, got no media attention and no league punishment. And this, according to the links and dates, was after the NFL issued a memo stating not to use video.Now, if we can assume these reported stories to be true ( and I understand many will refute the stories because they weren't front page news ), the only difference between the Jets actions and the Patriots actions was that the Jets went to the league, which in turn created the media blowup and the fine and draft pick penalty. But, if we go back through the SP history, there was a whole lot of moralizing on Integrity of the League and other such vitriol directed at the Patriots. Again, assuming the story posted is true, why are the same people that have been running the Patriots through the mud at every opportunity just letting this slide?Is it because the league ( which wasn't brought into this situation ) didn't hand down a penalty, so it "wasn't as bad?"

 

[scapegoat]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules"

Not sure what the problem is.

Sounds like a CYA statement from the Jets. 1) If it was okay.. why was the cameraman stopped and ejected?2) The league's RULES clearly state no videotaping of any kind from anywhere accessible by staff. he was in violation of the league rules... and he was ejected just like the Pats cameraman.

So Bruce is lying then?

Apparently. Why would an authorized cameraman be stopped and ejected? Seems pretty obvious the Pats allowed the Jets cameraman to shoot some B-roll of the crowd or something and he was stopped and ejected when it became obvious he wasn't shooting what he claimed to be, and instead was cheating by shooting signals.

I can't believe you have your panties all in a bunch over this.

I am attempting to make a point here. Pats were caught... MASSIVE uproar.... Everyone defends their anger as not being because they're "haters" but becuase they want to protect the integrity of the league.... Jets were caught doing the same thing... you could hear a pin drop in here and I'm vilified for starting a single thread bringing attention to the fact that the Jets were caught cheating. Does that not strike you as odd?

 

[scapegoat]

I think it is sad how some Patriots fans take every report of anything as somehow justifying the Patriots cheating. IF the Jets did the same thing, they should be punished. But some report of something that is vaguely similar to what the Patriots did is not the same thing. And if the Jets or some other team does cheat, it in no way lessens what the Patriots did.

Calling this out is in no way trying to mitigate what the Pats did. Many have acknowledged they broke the rules and have been punished for it. What's curious here is the story that the Patriots caught the Jets a year prior to the Spygate issue occurred, handled it in house ( ie. did NOT report it to the NFL offices ), and as such, got no media attention and no league punishment. And this, according to the links and dates, was after the NFL issued a memo stating not to use video.Now, if we can assume these reported stories to be true ( and I understand many will refute the stories because they weren't front page news ), the only difference between the Jets actions and the Patriots actions was that the Jets went to the league, which in turn created the media blowup and the fine and draft pick penalty. But, if we go back through the SP history, there was a whole lot of moralizing on Integrity of the League and other such vitriol directed at the Patriots. Again, assuming the story posted is true, why are the same people that have been running the Patriots through the mud at every opportunity just letting this slide?

Is it because the league ( which wasn't brought into this situation ) didn't hand down a penalty, so it "wasn't as bad?"

Thank you.. this guy gets it.

 

[DrJ]

So everyone that has ever coached for the Pats is probably a cheater. The legacy of Bellicheat.

 

[DrJ]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules"

Not sure what the problem is.

Sounds like a CYA statement from the Jets. 1) If it was okay.. why was the cameraman stopped and ejected?2) The league's RULES clearly state no videotaping of any kind from anywhere accessible by staff. he was in violation of the league rules... and he was ejected just like the Pats cameraman.

So Bruce is lying then?

Apparently. Why would an authorized cameraman be stopped and ejected? Seems pretty obvious the Pats allowed the Jets cameraman to shoot some B-roll of the crowd or something and he was stopped and ejected when it became obvious he wasn't shooting what he claimed to be, and instead was cheating by shooting signals.

I can't believe you have your panties all in a bunch over this.

I am attempting to make a point here. Pats were caught... MASSIVE uproar.... Everyone defends their anger as not being because they're "haters" but becuase they want to protect the integrity of the league.... Jets were caught doing the same thing... you could hear a pin drop in here and I'm vilified for starting a single thread bringing attention to the fact that the Jets were caught cheating. Does that not strike you as odd?

No, you're right. The Jets cheating is a big deal. It's really pretty pathetic that Bellicheat and everyone that has worked for him are cheaters.

 

[MDSkinner]

Does that not strike you as odd?

No. As mentioned earlier, it is clearly more acceptable to bash on the Patriots. It doesn't make what the Jets did right, it just makes it less relevant in terms of entertainment value.I am sorry your team is so good that people want to nitpick every thing that they do. I feel just awful for you.

 

[apalmer]

"All filming at last year's Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules"

Not sure what the problem is.

Sounds like a CYA statement from the Jets. 1) If it was okay.. why was the cameraman stopped and ejected?2) The league's RULES clearly state no videotaping of any kind from anywhere accessible by staff. he was in violation of the league rules... and he was ejected just like the Pats cameraman.

So Bruce is lying then?

Apparently. Why would an authorized cameraman be stopped and ejected?

Because the megalomaniac who coaches the Patriots thought they were trying to cheat like him and therefore wanted the guy ejected and security wasn't about to argue with him?

 

[scapegoat]

Please god, make it stop. WTF will it take to make Pat's fans happy? Seriously.

Are you not upset that a team was found to be cheating?! As one of the most vocal attackers of the Patriots cheating.... you clearly wanted to protect the integrity of the league, right? HEre is another clear violation of league rules.... and not just any rule..it's the SAME violation. Clearly this is worth of ONE thread.

Umm....they have been reportedly possibly cheating. They have not been found to be cheating. You keep posting it as if they were just stone cold busted by the league.It is not "clear" at this point (something you just don't get and appear to be letting your bias get in the way here).

They were caught.. the camera man was asked to cease and was ejected from the stadium. The only difference here is, as was so eloquently stated by Road Warriors just a few posts above this, is that the Pats didn't go to the league office and raise a stink. Those who were TRULY motivated by a breach in the league's integrity would CLEARLY be as upset over this as they would be over the Pats breach. Those who were solely using the violation as a means to attempt to knock a successful team down a peg (and therefore motivated not by league integrity, but by hate for the success of the Pats)... would obviously seek to brush this under the rug seeings as the hapless Jets haven't shown much successs since Namath left. THAT is the issue at hand. If this is TRULY about fair and balanced enforcement of league rules then that's what it is. Let's treat it that way.