Jets RB situation Greene / Powell (1 Viewer)

[Banger]

I've seen Powell / Greene posts in several disperate threads but thought it was worthy of discussion in it's own thread. I've never been a Greene fan but this year seems to be a new low even for him. His YTD stats are 57-157-1 (2.75 ypc!!) through 3 games while Powell's run for 22-88 (4.0 ypc) 3-40 receiving.

It seems for the 1st time that Powell got more carries side by side than he had in the 1st 2 games and he's also the 3rd down back. Maybe it'll develop into a time share but really what does Greene do that Powell cannot? Why should they even bother giving him the ball if he really has no ability to break runs, catch any balls and is running for under 3 ypc.

At the end of the day I don't think even if Powell were given the full load he'd be a stud but it's always good to have depth and trading chips. If you haven't gotten Powell yet I'd take a flyer on him. Any locals got any reports on Rex and their thought process on the RBs?

 

[jsharlan]

Powell has steadily gotten more carries, I think it will be a full blown timeshare sooner rather than later. Sadly, Jets blocking is subpar enough that Powell will probably never be more than a flex play at the very best.

 

[coachbobbyfinstock]

Agreed it really is puzzling. Jets have some tough matchups in the next few weeks, so Im not sure either will be too effective (they play against big O's and may fall behind early and also against a few stout D's). but it seems like powell is just far more talented.

I think powell starts getting more touches.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I watch the Jets every week, saw all their preseason games, read and hear local reports. No special insight, but Powell looks measurably quicker, can move the pile. He's not a great player by any means, but he's better than Greene.

May not be about talent, though. Rex will go with the guy he trusts, so I expect Shonn to keep getting plenty of work. 65/35 split at best. That's a pretty big shift from last year when Greene had had 280 touches and McKnight/Powell had only 70 (e.g., 80/20).

Powell simply isn't good enough to force the coaches hand.

 

[Banger]

Agreed it really is puzzling. Jets have some tough matchups in the next few weeks, so Im not sure either will be too effective (they play against big O's and may fall behind early and also against a few stout D's). but it seems like powell is just far more talented. I think powell starts getting more touches.

but if Greene is getting sub 3.0 vs. ok defenses what's he gonna do vs. good ones? are they just going to keep handing him the ball and getting 2.0 ypc? I just can't see them going to him over and over. I think the team likes Powell, he can catch, he's got more wiggle and ability to break a run but how is he at pass protection? I'd imagine ok since he's a 3rd down back. I just can't figure why they would keep giving the ball to Greene...he's shown nothing in 3 years besides the ability to grind it out behind a solid line and get absolutely stuffed behind a poor line.

 

[TPW]

Jets running game = The Suck

Avoid unless you're just looking for a RB 4/5. I don't think Powell is a good play even in dynasty.

 

[zamboni]

There hasn't been a ton of local talk on Greene/Powell, mainly since there are obviously other issues (read: Tebow) that have taken center stage. Plus the fact that Greene came off a 1K yard season probably hasn't garnered much attention.

All that said, I'm glad that Rex and Sparano are starting to use Powell more. While the jury is still out on Bilal, he's obviously shiftier than Greene and can make things happen more up front when the blocking isn't there (which it hasn't).

No one knows how effective Powell can be, but I think everyone around here knows that Greene isn't that good. Yeah, he had that 1K season, but he seems to be Lamont Jordan v. 2.0. That is, a guy that can be effective when he's fresh coming off the bench, hammering a defense that's beaten down. But as a full-time feature back, not so much. His numbers will come as a compiler, and it's starting to show more and more.

Rex and Co. do seem to have some loyalty to Greene, as he has been a good soldier and played through various dings and bruises. But I can't see how long they go with him if the offense continues to stagnate.

I do think it may become more of a full committee though going forward.

 

[zamboni]

Powell simply isn't good enough to force the coaches hand.

That may be the case, but he hasn't had enough touches to show one way or the other. The coaches were impressed with his training camp, so maybe they start using him more and more.

 

[Banger]

I watch the Jets every week, saw all their preseason games, read and hear local reports. No special insight, but Powell looks measurably quicker, can move the pile. He's not a great player by any means, but he's better than Greene.May not be about talent, though. Rex will go with the guy he trusts, so I expect Shonn to keep getting plenty of work. 65/35 split at best. That's a pretty big shift from last year when Greene had had 280 touches and McKnight/Powell had only 70 (e.g., 80/20).Powell simply isn't good enough to force the coaches hand.

I just don't understand that logic...nothing against you and your post but why play an inferior player? Powell may not be that great but Greene is awful. They drafted Powell, they liked/like him and he seems to be increasing his role week by week. There's a good chance they get smoked the next 2 weeks playing Hou/SF so they may not have the luxury of going out and handing the ball to Greene 18+ times a game for 40 yards.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Powell simply isn't good enough to force the coaches hand.

That may be the case, but he hasn't had enough touches to show one way or the other. The coaches were impressed with his training camp, so maybe they start using him more and more.

I don't pretend to understand a lot of things about Rex Ryan, but if nothing else, he's loyal. He's been trotting out Sanchez every week and that kid is simply awful.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I watch the Jets every week, saw all their preseason games, read and hear local reports. No special insight, but Powell looks measurably quicker, can move the pile. He's not a great player by any means, but he's better than Greene.May not be about talent, though. Rex will go with the guy he trusts, so I expect Shonn to keep getting plenty of work. 65/35 split at best. That's a pretty big shift from last year when Greene had had 280 touches and McKnight/Powell had only 70 (e.g., 80/20).Powell simply isn't good enough to force the coaches hand.

I just don't understand that logic...nothing against you and your post but why play an inferior player? Powell may not be that great but Greene is awful. They drafted Powell, they liked/like him and he seems to be increasing his role week by week. There's a good chance they get smoked the next 2 weeks playing Hou/SF so they may not have the luxury of going out and handing the ball to Greene 18+ times a game for 40 yards.

Wasn't trying to be logical. We see coaches limit the more talented back ALL THE TIME, and I think that is what will happen here. Ryan trusts Greene. He's tough, doesn't turn the ball over, does a decent (not great) job at pass protection. Coaches don't operate on 100% logic, and Rex is not a feed the data in type of guy. He'll go with his (much smaller now thanks to surgery) gut.

 

[zamboni]

Powell simply isn't good enough to force the coaches hand.

That may be the case, but he hasn't had enough touches to show one way or the other. The coaches were impressed with his training camp, so maybe they start using him more and more.

I don't pretend to understand a lot of things about Rex Ryan, but if nothing else, he's loyal. He's been trotting out Sanchez every week and that kid is simply awful.

The Sanchez comparison is apples and oranges though. They have a lot more invested in him, so he's going to get a lot more leeway than Greene will.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Powell simply isn't good enough to force the coaches hand.

That may be the case, but he hasn't had enough touches to show one way or the other. The coaches were impressed with his training camp, so maybe they start using him more and more.

I don't pretend to understand a lot of things about Rex Ryan, but if nothing else, he's loyal. He's been trotting out Sanchez every week and that kid is simply awful.

The Sanchez comparison is apples and oranges though. They have a lot more invested in him, so he's going to get a lot more leeway than Greene will.

It's a good point, and you may be right. No clear indicators yet other than Powell is getting more touches.

 

[FDC]

2.8ypc vs 4.0ypc

If that keeps up something will give eventually.

I watched some of the game yesterday. To me Powell is running harder and with more conviction. He reminds me a bit of how Ridley is running right now.

Even if Powell wins the job he is only startable with a good matchup IMO(in most leagues)

Next week is SF, then Hou. Later on is NE twice, Sea, Ari, Mia. Yuck

 

[Alluro]

Waldman had Powell ranked #3 in his draft class amongst RBs (ahead of Murray, Vereen, and Leshoure)

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/n-f-l-draft-bilal-powell-third-ranked-rusher/



He is only 207 pounds, but he has the best combo of power, speed, balance and maturity between the tackles I’ve seen.

 

[donkshow]

I plan on picking him up, but not starting him.

Trade bait to the Greene owner who just lost Bush AND Spiller.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I've posted this in the other threads but I think the injury to Revis will have an effect on the Jets running game, since their defense is going to have a much harder time keeping the opponent's score manageable. I think I would rather take a flier on Javon Ringer and the likes. If Powell is all that's left I'll grab him but I think that he offers no better of an option than other WW fodder for this week.

 

[Flutie Flake]

Seemed like it was a 50/50 split from the middle of the game on.

Powell ended up being the back on the 1st series of overtime, which I thought was fairly telling - Until Green was used to try and ie the game on the last series of overtime.

It's been commented on before - I think Powell is worth rostering, but so long as the jets running game seems to be ineffective and its a split of carries, neither one is worth starting. Especially with the treat of Tebow vulturing what few TDs they may be in line for.

 

[kentric]

Watching Powell against Miami, it appeared he has the ability to contribute much more than Greene in the running game. He has better lateral motion and seemed to hit the hole quicker. I can't attest to how he is viewed in the receiving dept (he dropped one thrown slightly behind him that he should have caught) or his blocking abilities (poor Sanchez is a blocking dummy back there at times), but he seems to provide a better overall alternative than Greene from what I've seen.

 

[INRIhab]

Seemed like it was a 50/50 split from the middle of the game on.

Powell ended up being the back on the 1st series of overtime, which I thought was fairly telling - Until Green was used to try and ie the game on the last series of overtime.

It's been commented on before - I think Powell is worth rostering, but so long as the jets running game seems to be ineffective and its a split of carries, neither one is worth starting. Especially with the treat of Tebow vulturing what few TDs they may be in line for.

It should be noted that the Jets had 1st and goal from the 5 as well as 1st and goal from the 1 and Tebow never saw the field:

1-5-MIA 5

35) 63-J.Smith reported in as eligible. 23-S.Greene left guard to MIA 4 for 1 yard (31-R.Marshall).

2-4-MIA 4

(15:00) 6-M.Sanchez pass incomplete short left to 10-S.Holmes. PENALTY on MIA-31-R.Marshall, Defensive Pass Interference, 3 yards, enforced at MIA 4 - No Play.

1-1-MIA 1

(14:56) 23-S.Greene up the middle to MIA 1 for no gain (56-K.Burnett).

2-1-MIA 1

(14:22) 6-M.Sanchez pass incomplete short right to 86-J.Cumberland [20-R.Jones].

3-1-MIA 1

(14:17) PENALTY on NYJ-68-M.Slauson, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at MIA 1 - No Play.

3-6-MIA 6

(14:17) 6-M.Sanchez scrambles left guard to MIA 2 for 4 yards (91-C.Wake).

...so who knows how they plan on using Tebow ... I was shocked he didnt get on the field.Given their next two games (SF and HOU) and the loss of Revis, I would expect Powell's carries to increase as the pressure on this team intensifies and Greene continues his poor performance. The pressure for change would obviously be greater had they lost @ MIA, so unfortunately we may have to wait a few weeks. The offense just looks so incredibly pathetic, albeit without Keller - overthrown balls, drops, receivers not even expecting the pass - Greene can't be getting 2.5 YPC when it's clear they should (and would like to) rely on the run more, especially if the defense just got significantly weaker due to the Revis injury.

That being said, I'm actively shopping Powell in all leagues to either the Greene owner or someone with weak RB depth. I don't want any part of this running game. I'm just struggling with the following: do you attempt to trade him now and capitalize on hype / potential, or do you wait until after the SF / HOU games where hopefully it's clear that he has an increased role, but at the same time there's more negativity surrounding the Jets offense as a unit?

 

[rascal]

Powell simply isn't good enough to force the coaches hand.

That may be the case, but he hasn't had enough touches to show one way or the other. The coaches were impressed with his training camp, so maybe they start using him more and more.

I don't pretend to understand a lot of things about Rex Ryan, but if nothing else, he's loyal. He's been trotting out Sanchez every week and that kid is simply awful.

The Sanchez comparison is apples and oranges though. They have a lot more invested in him, so he's going to get a lot more leeway than Greene will.

Not to mention they don't have another QB on their roster who is startable.

 

[Banger]

Seemed like it was a 50/50 split from the middle of the game on.

Powell ended up being the back on the 1st series of overtime, which I thought was fairly telling - Until Green was used to try and ie the game on the last series of overtime.

It's been commented on before - I think Powell is worth rostering, but so long as the jets running game seems to be ineffective and its a split of carries, neither one is worth starting. Especially with the treat of Tebow vulturing what few TDs they may be in line for.

It should be noted that the Jets had 1st and goal from the 5 as well as 1st and goal from the 1 and Tebow never saw the field:

1-5-MIA 5

35) 63-J.Smith reported in as eligible. 23-S.Greene left guard to MIA 4 for 1 yard (31-R.Marshall).

2-4-MIA 4

(15:00) 6-M.Sanchez pass incomplete short left to 10-S.Holmes. PENALTY on MIA-31-R.Marshall, Defensive Pass Interference, 3 yards, enforced at MIA 4 - No Play.

1-1-MIA 1

(14:56) 23-S.Greene up the middle to MIA 1 for no gain (56-K.Burnett).

2-1-MIA 1

(14:22) 6-M.Sanchez pass incomplete short right to 86-J.Cumberland [20-R.Jones].

3-1-MIA 1

(14:17) PENALTY on NYJ-68-M.Slauson, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at MIA 1 - No Play.

3-6-MIA 6

(14:17) 6-M.Sanchez scrambles left guard to MIA 2 for 4 yards (91-C.Wake).

...so who knows how they plan on using Tebow ... I was shocked he didnt get on the field.Given their next two games (SF and HOU) and the loss of Revis, I would expect Powell's carries to increase as the pressure on this team intensifies and Greene continues his poor performance. The pressure for change would obviously be greater had they lost @ MIA, so unfortunately we may have to wait a few weeks. The offense just looks so incredibly pathetic, albeit without Keller - overthrown balls, drops, receivers not even expecting the pass - Greene can't be getting 2.5 YPC when it's clear they should (and would like to) rely on the run more, especially if the defense just got significantly weaker due to the Revis injury.

That being said, I'm actively shopping Powell in all leagues to either the Greene owner or someone with weak RB depth. I don't want any part of this running game. I'm just struggling with the following: do you attempt to trade him now and capitalize on hype / potential, or do you wait until after the SF / HOU games where hopefully it's clear that he has an increased role, but at the same time there's more negativity surrounding the Jets offense as a unit?

if you can get something of value then great, move him but I'd think at this point he wouldn't have much value until the situation is more clear. I can't see someone unless they are completely desparate giving anything decent for Powell now. He's more of a project over the next few weeks IMO and holding him for a couple weeks, if you can afford to do so, may result in the better return. That's my plan at least...hold for a couple weeks, hope he continues take a strangehold on the starting job and then get max return when injuries/bye weeks are in full effect and teams are looking for any guy that can give them 20 touches.

 

[Bad_Mo]

If I were Powell, I'd make sure I was rockin' a fresh pedicure every few days. That may get Rex's attention.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Jets coach Rex Ryan said at Monday's presser it's "possible" Shonn Greene could begin ceding more early-game touches to Bilal Powell or Joe McKnight."That’s certainly a possibility that we’ll look into," Ryan said. "We’ll look at anything that will help our team. Has that been discussed? No." Greene has struggled mightily through New York's first three games, gaining just 157 yards on 57 carries (2.8 YPC). Greene was subbed out for Powell on some of the most important plays in Sunday's win, and could be headed for a full-blown timeshare as early as Week 4. Now is absolutely the time to sell, but it may be too late. Powell is hardly a dynamo (22 carries, 88 yards), but could easily turn out to be the Jets' back to own going forward. McKnight isn't a legitimate threat for an increased role.

 

[pittstownkiller]

Jets coach Rex Ryan said at Monday's presser it's "possible" Shonn Greene could begin ceding more early-game touches to Bilal Powell or Joe McKnight.

"That’s certainly a possibility that we’ll look into," Ryan said. "We’ll look at anything that will help our team. Has that been discussed? No." Greene has struggled mightily through New York's first three games, gaining just 157 yards on 57 carries (2.8 YPC). Greene was subbed out for Powell on some of the most important plays in Sunday's win, and could be headed for a full-blown timeshare as early as Week 4. Now is absolutely the time to sell, but it may be too late. Powell is hardly a dynamo (22 carries, 88 yards), but could easily turn out to be the Jets' back to own going forward. McKnight isn't a legitimate threat for an increased role.

This is the problem here; I don't know if there is a Jet running game to own players in.

 

[D'OHtis]

McKnight is their best runner IMO.

I'd pick up Powell. Then deal him before he starts a game. Maybe he's better than Greene....not saying much. I think McKnight gives them the explosive element they really really lack right now. Are any the long term answer at RB? Likely not, but Powell is a below average NFL back IMO.

 

[Banger]

Jets coach Rex Ryan said at Monday's presser it's "possible" Shonn Greene could begin ceding more early-game touches to Bilal Powell or Joe McKnight."That’s certainly a possibility that we’ll look into," Ryan said. "We’ll look at anything that will help our team. Has that been discussed? No." Greene has struggled mightily through New York's first three games, gaining just 157 yards on 57 carries (2.8 YPC). Greene was subbed out for Powell on some of the most important plays in Sunday's win, and could be headed for a full-blown timeshare as early as Week 4. Now is absolutely the time to sell, but it may be too late. Powell is hardly a dynamo (22 carries, 88 yards), but could easily turn out to be the Jets' back to own going forward. McKnight isn't a legitimate threat for an increased role.

thx for posting Dr.. glad that it's a topic of conversation.

 

[Banger]

McKnight is their best runner IMO.I'd pick up Powell. Then deal him before he starts a game. Maybe he's better than Greene....not saying much. I think McKnight gives them the explosive element they really really lack right now. Are any the long term answer at RB? Likely not, but Powell is a below average NFL back IMO.

I don't know...McKnight had the 2nd spot and lost it to Powell and now Powell is nipping at Greene's heals. Powell certainly has momentum on his side. Long term, who knows.

 

[zamboni]

I think people are being presumptuous that Powell is below average - while it may be true, what could anyone have possibly seen so far in him that the coaching staff hasn't?

Also just because the Jets' running game has been stuck in mud doesn't mean that they can't turn it around. And any back that potentially will be getting a lot of carries is going to have value.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Jets coach Rex Ryan said at Monday's presser it's "possible" Shonn Greene could begin ceding more early-game touches to Bilal Powell or Joe McKnight.

"That’s certainly a possibility that we’ll look into," Ryan said. "We’ll look at anything that will help our team. Has that been discussed? No." Greene has struggled mightily through New York's first three games, gaining just 157 yards on 57 carries (2.8 YPC). Greene was subbed out for Powell on some of the most important plays in Sunday's win, and could be headed for a full-blown timeshare as early as Week 4. Now is absolutely the time to sell, but it may be too late. Powell is hardly a dynamo (22 carries, 88 yards), but could easily turn out to be the Jets' back to own going forward. McKnight isn't a legitimate threat for an increased role.

This is the problem here; I don't know if there is a Jet running game to own players in.

If I was a DC game planning the J-E-T-S, I'd be heavy on 7 and 8 man fronts. You want to beat me? Let's force Sanchez to be a playmaker. He'll come up small more often than not.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

McKnight is their best runner IMO.I'd pick up Powell. Then deal him before he starts a game. Maybe he's better than Greene....not saying much. I think McKnight gives them the explosive element they really really lack right now. Are any the long term answer at RB? Likely not, but Powell is a below average NFL back IMO.

I don't know...McKnight had the 2nd spot and lost it to Powell and now Powell is nipping at Greene's heals. Powell certainly has momentum on his side. Long term, who knows.

As a Jet fan, I was serverly disappointed in Powell during the preseason last year. He ran very hesitently and with no power. I was hoping it was merely a case of a rookie "over-thinking" instead of just taking what was there. This season, I agree he's the best bet at RB the team has to move the ball on the ground. He has much more elusiveness and is noticably quicker than Greene. Greene is useless without a big hole to run through. Powell looks like he can make things happen on his own. The writing is on the wall that Powell will surpass Greene soon.For those thinking the Jets ground game will be useless - the line has looked much better than last season and Greene has found room to run at times, and he's also left some yards on the field. Since Powell is also a better pass catcher than Greene - he doesn't have to come off the field if the team is playing from behind either.

 

[Shutout]

McKnight is their best runner IMO.I'd pick up Powell. Then deal him before he starts a game. Maybe he's better than Greene....not saying much. I think McKnight gives them the explosive element they really really lack right now. Are any the long term answer at RB? Likely not, but Powell is a below average NFL back IMO.

I agree from the perspective of McKnight might be the best option for the real-life Jets. Not because I think McKnight is actually the best RB on the team but, looking at what is going on with this team and how they are struggling, I think he is the best "we obviously need to do something different" option. To me, trying to decide if Powell is truly better than Greene is difficult. I used to think Greene should be the one in there over Thomas Jones because it looked as if Jones had lost a few steps and Greene would come in there and look like he was doing something. But now I look back at that and think maybe it was really just situational and he looked that good because he was coming in and finishing off teams that Jones had beaten up for most of the game. Now I look at Powell and wonder if the same thing is true (that his situation of coming in fresh is making him APPEAR betteR, but he might not actually be).Now, Joe McKnight IS different than these two. Maybe not better, but he is without a doubt a different type of runner. And maybe that is what the Jets need. Since they can't open up truck lanes and let these other guys build up steam, maybe they SHOULD be trying to get players out into space and getting on the edges more. I'm not saying I think it would be mores sucessful but it is obvious they need to do something different. So, for my money, give me McKnight 1.0 vs. Greene 2.0 in Powell.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

But now I look back at that and think maybe it was really just situational and he looked that good because he was coming in and finishing off teams that Jones had beaten up for most of the game. Now I look at Powell and wonder if the same thing is true (that his situation of coming in fresh is making him APPEAR betteR, but he might not actually be).

This hasn't been what's been happening though. Powell was mixed in early the last two weeks and looked far better than Greene (who hasn't beaten up anyone).

 

[scothawk]

Not seeign anything here to excite me in dynasty terms. Schedule this year and current loyalty to Greene makes me think Powell wont do enough to be relevant, and you have to think they take a guy in round 2 or 3 next year. Maybe even a FA.

Im going to pass and let others worry about it.

 

[az_prof]

I am intrigued by Powell, and think he will get more looks but Greene clearly is not that talented. But I am not overly optimistic that Powell will be that great. I DO think that if the REvis injury means the teams has to pass more, it actually helps Powell, at least in PPR. He should be on the field more and should catch more balls.

 

[donkshow]

I think I waited 1 week too late to grab Powell.

WOOPS!

Greene is garbage.

 

[Rovers]

McKnight will never be anything more than a thrid down RB, and that's his upside. He is no more than a return man now.

Green is proving:

1. He can't break tackles.

2. He can't get outside.

3. He isn't good at picking up a blitz.

4. He doesn't fumble.

5. He isn't a good reciever or route runner.

Eventually... Powell will get more touches than Greene. Two years ago, Greene ran with some power between the tackles, he could drag tacklers, now, he can't shed arm tackles. On items 1 thru 5, Powell is better than Greene, with the possible exception of ball security.

The bottom line is the Jets O line can't run (or pass)block. Even if Powell becomes the lead RB, he is a flex RB3. The Jets offense is a shambles. Greene is a below average RB, Sanchez a below average QB, Holmes is a head case, S Hill hasn't learned he can't catch the ball with his nipples, and Kerley is just another WR. Keller will never live up to the initial hype.

Of the lot of them, I think Hill has the best long term upside.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I know I have posted this in multiple threads but how does anyone see the Jets committing to the run when they are going to be playing catch-up with Revis out for the year? They'll abandon the run by halftime. I'll admit I am over the top here but this injury looms out there for a marginal pick to begin with.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I know I have posted this in multiple threads but how does anyone see the Jets committing to the run when they are going to be playing catch-up with Revis out for the year? They'll abandon the run by halftime. I'll admit I am over the top here but this injury looms out there for a marginal pick to begin with.

Powell has better hands, he'll get the majority of work in the event of a shoot-out. This could lead to flex value in PPR.

 

[Rovers]

I know I have posted this in multiple threads but how does anyone see the Jets committing to the run when they are going to be playing catch-up with Revis out for the year? They'll abandon the run by halftime. I'll admit I am over the top here but this injury looms out there for a marginal pick to begin with.

Actually, if ther Jets are playing catch up, that makes Powell even more valuable (while still remaining an RB3 type). Greene is not at all suited to blitz pickups or being a reliable outlet reciever, while Powell is. Powell can also run outside better. Bump Powell up a notch (a small notch) in PPR formats.

 

[Crash Davis]

So the Jets just signed Johnathan Grimes off of Houston's practice squad. He is an UDFA out of William and Mary that was creating some buzz around Texan's camp and the coaches and teammates loved him. I was looking him up and he had similar/better combine numbers to Doug Martin, but is about 10-15 lbs lighter. With no one separating themselves in the Jets run game maybe this kid gets a chance and makes something happen? I'm going to stash him in my Dynasty leagues for sure on potential opportunity alone.

 

[Shutout]

So the Jets just signed Johnathan Grimes off of Houston's practice squad. He is an UDFA out of William and Mary that was creating some buzz around Texan's camp and the coaches and teammates loved him. I was looking him up and he had similar/better combine numbers to Doug Martin, but is about 10-15 lbs lighter. With no one separating themselves in the Jets run game maybe this kid gets a chance and makes something happen? I'm going to stash him in my Dynasty leagues for sure on potential opportunity alone.

 

[socrates]

Grimes an intriguing prospect who is certainly worth a look. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Matt Bitonti]

an interesting angle on the grimes signing, the Jets have said in the past that Joe McKnight would get work at cornerback. With the Revis injury, if McK moves to defense (also returning kicks) then Grimes could be 3RB.

as for the Greene/Powell thing, i think it's more about next year. Greene is a free agent, they won't resign him. but they will pound him into the ground before that happens. Powell could split but i don't see a situation where Greene is benched outright.

 

[kd1]

So the Jets just signed Johnathan Grimes off of Houston's practice squad. He is an UDFA out of William and Mary that was creating some buzz around Texan's camp and the coaches and teammates loved him. I was looking him up and he had similar/better combine numbers to Doug Martin, but is about 10-15 lbs lighter. With no one separating themselves in the Jets run game maybe this kid gets a chance and makes something happen? I'm going to stash him in my Dynasty leagues for sure on potential opportunity alone.

intel for week 5 monday night game. and i'm serious.

 

[Crash Davis]

intel for week 5 monday night game. and i'm serious.

Hmm, that does sound like Rex. I'd be disappointed if that was all he was used for based on what I just read and saw. This kid seems to have some talent at a position where the Jets seem to lack it.

 

[mere blitzianity]

Anyone have more info on this Grimes kid? Wondering if he's worth rostering in a dynasty

 

[elbowrm]

Rotoworld:

According to ESPN New York, the Jets have "no plans" to demote Shonn Greene, and he will "get the bulk of the carries" against the 49ers.

Coach Rex Ryan said Monday it was "certainly a possibility" Greene would start ceding more early-down work to Bilal Powell, but that apparently won't be the case in Week 4. Greene has averaged a Thomas Jones-esque 2.8 yards per carry through his first 57 totes, and though he's received an unbelievable amount of slack from the Jets, there's no way Powell won't start cutting into his workload if his play doesn't pick up soon. Powell is no Jim Brown himself, but is definitely worth a flier if you're hurting at running back.

 

[Chazzhawk]

I didn't have the time or stomach to read through all this, but Powell is only good for a stash (at best) in a dynasty league. He needs to show something, probably have Green get hurt, and be playing a defense weak against the run before you could even think about starting him as a flex in any league.

 

[therush]

Anyone have more info on this Grimes kid? Wondering if he's worth rostering in a dynasty

With Tates contract running out in 2013 and the Texans unlikely to want to pay a premium price for a backup RB there were several in the community who believed that Grimes would be the guy to step in behind Foster after his showing in the offseason. The team also signed Justin Forsett, a more experienced but slightly less talented veteran RB with NFL return experience and good blocking skills. There were many advocates for rostering Grimes but at the end of the day they figured that surely a team wouldn't go out and sign an undrafted FA off of someone elses practice squad. As we saw, he cleared waivers and made it to the PS. However, now we see that he did indeed show enough in the pre-season. Apparently this isn't the first time Rex has shown interest in the kid though, and any argument that an undrafted FA rookie RB with a few months in the Texans backfield would be able to provide intel to an opponent is bogus. He's a smaller guy but I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he turned into the next Tramon Williams (Pro-Bowl CB the Texans let go who is the difference between the Packers D last year when he was injured and how the schemes are working this year.)