Sweetness_34
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I picked up Clemens with the final pick of my inaugaral dynasty draft too.... 
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
Mac in the dog house - Tangini heaping praise on Cotchery - could be a nice pick up if it continues.Not to degenerate the thread into a "who should i start", but can I get some feedback from Jets Homers? I just dropped McCariens and picked up Cotchery in a Dynasty league.I am also open for Lions Homer questions if anyone has em.
Rovers
Footballguy
I went Monday, but left at about 3:30..... missing the 11 on 11's. (it was just too hot even for an idiot like me) but did see both Tuesday sessions , all 5 hours and 45 minutes of it. I'm an IDP head, and only posted a report there... but I'll try to convey what I've seen on the O.
The QB situation is WIERD. Even during stretching, where the players have assigned spots, Ramsey is two players away form the other 3 QB's. Then.... on Monday, Ramsey was odd man out in the 3 QB rotation drill, where each QB takes a snap, the QB on the left throws an out, The middle QB throws a slant, the other QB throws a fade. Ramsey is off playing fake QB somewhere.... not even throwing. Then, he only got 4 snaps (FOUR) on the whole day Tuesday, (over two hours of 11 on 11)and also wasn't in the 3 QB rotation drill.
Ramsey's arm is fine, that much is obvious, but I don't get this rotation at all. The other three QB's about equally split the reps over those three sessions.
Clemens has looked very good.... and just when you think he's ready, he does something to remind you he's still a rookie. Pennington surprisingly, has been most consistant and accurate with his deep passes. It's the short and intermediate stuff where he sometimes just throws ducks. I think, and strictly MO, is that he knows he's not going to get hit, and he steps into his 40 yard passes. The short stuff sometimes requires a QB to throw off the wrong foot, or not being able to step into the throw. He is definitely better off arm-wise than he was at this time last year. Bollinger.... despite the haters, he's just a really really good #3 QB. Steady, won't turn the ball over, can move hte chains. Can tuck and run.
McCariens was PUP'd becuase he failed the stamina portion of the physical. He's off it now, but Cotchery is REALLY prEssing him in camp. Brad Smith, while raw, shows a ton of promise, making several acrobatic grabs, but dropping a couple of easy ones as well. In the bump and run drills, he was the best WR, using an explosion off the line that was easilly the best of this group of WR's and used his arms really well to fend off the CB. he can get seperation 5 yards away from the LOS. I can easilly see him as a starter by 2008, maybe by 2007, and he's a slash to boot. Could be a special player in a year or two. Tim Dwight's speed makes him the best deep threat.
RB's: Blaylock gets most of the first team snaps, but is the least impressive of him, Houston and Washington to me. Houston, who had an undiagnosed thyroid problem discovered at the combine last year was much heavier ans slower in TC lastyear. What people don't realize was he was at one time a projected first round pick. It takes 3 to 6 months to get that properly medicated. Only THEN could Houston get into playing shape. Well, he's downto 218, and he looks to be faster than even Blaylock this year. Blaylock hesitates when hitting a hole, and loses his best weapon when he does so, his speed. Washington and Houston are much better between the tackles.
Jolley continues to have the best hands on the team in practice. I dunno.... no further comment. jets run a two wide most of the time, but they are running a lor of 3 WR, 1 RB sets too. Not too much shotgun or two TE sets, but those are in the playbook for surre.
I guess that's what I got... be glad to offer my impressions from camp further in attempting to try to answer more specific Q's, like the O line....
The QB situation is WIERD. Even during stretching, where the players have assigned spots, Ramsey is two players away form the other 3 QB's. Then.... on Monday, Ramsey was odd man out in the 3 QB rotation drill, where each QB takes a snap, the QB on the left throws an out, The middle QB throws a slant, the other QB throws a fade. Ramsey is off playing fake QB somewhere.... not even throwing. Then, he only got 4 snaps (FOUR) on the whole day Tuesday, (over two hours of 11 on 11)and also wasn't in the 3 QB rotation drill.
Ramsey's arm is fine, that much is obvious, but I don't get this rotation at all. The other three QB's about equally split the reps over those three sessions.
Clemens has looked very good.... and just when you think he's ready, he does something to remind you he's still a rookie. Pennington surprisingly, has been most consistant and accurate with his deep passes. It's the short and intermediate stuff where he sometimes just throws ducks. I think, and strictly MO, is that he knows he's not going to get hit, and he steps into his 40 yard passes. The short stuff sometimes requires a QB to throw off the wrong foot, or not being able to step into the throw. He is definitely better off arm-wise than he was at this time last year. Bollinger.... despite the haters, he's just a really really good #3 QB. Steady, won't turn the ball over, can move hte chains. Can tuck and run.
McCariens was PUP'd becuase he failed the stamina portion of the physical. He's off it now, but Cotchery is REALLY prEssing him in camp. Brad Smith, while raw, shows a ton of promise, making several acrobatic grabs, but dropping a couple of easy ones as well. In the bump and run drills, he was the best WR, using an explosion off the line that was easilly the best of this group of WR's and used his arms really well to fend off the CB. he can get seperation 5 yards away from the LOS. I can easilly see him as a starter by 2008, maybe by 2007, and he's a slash to boot. Could be a special player in a year or two. Tim Dwight's speed makes him the best deep threat.
RB's: Blaylock gets most of the first team snaps, but is the least impressive of him, Houston and Washington to me. Houston, who had an undiagnosed thyroid problem discovered at the combine last year was much heavier ans slower in TC lastyear. What people don't realize was he was at one time a projected first round pick. It takes 3 to 6 months to get that properly medicated. Only THEN could Houston get into playing shape. Well, he's downto 218, and he looks to be faster than even Blaylock this year. Blaylock hesitates when hitting a hole, and loses his best weapon when he does so, his speed. Washington and Houston are much better between the tackles.
Jolley continues to have the best hands on the team in practice. I dunno.... no further comment. jets run a two wide most of the time, but they are running a lor of 3 WR, 1 RB sets too. Not too much shotgun or two TE sets, but those are in the playbook for surre.
I guess that's what I got... be glad to offer my impressions from camp further in attempting to try to answer more specific Q's, like the O line....
B. Nugget
Footballguy
I'd be curious to hear how Brad Smith is looking. He needs some time to learn WR, but he is a monster when the ball is in his hand.
Rovers
Footballguy
Um.... you might try reading my post, as he was the only offensive rook I even bothered to talk about, but Washington looks VERY fast, better than Blaylock between thre taclkes, and faster than Blaylock to boot.
Rovers-thanks again, really enjoy these.Not to nitpick but to throw something out there. Friend of mine think Blaylock looks the best. Apparently you and he noticed the same thing. He thinks he attempts a shifty move and then bursts. You think he hesitates. IE He's saying he does it everytime and it's his method that works for him. No clue here, just passing it along thought it was kinda funny you both saw that. When he ran with the first string did the crowd seem surprised or expectant of it?I can't recall who but isn't there another former QB in jets camp, besides Brad Smith?I've heard the punter is just amazing the fans with his leg. Can he place the ball though? Again, thanks
Reaper
Footballguy
Hey Rovers GREAT STUFF as usual.
Any word or opinion on the Martin talk - Rumors are flying and talk now is the Jets are looking at available RB's?
I'd love to see Houston get a real good shot at it. I hope they don't panic and overpay, it's still a rebuilding year with a lot of talent at RB in the next draft.....
Be patient.
Any word or opinion on the Martin talk - Rumors are flying and talk now is the Jets are looking at available RB's?
I'd love to see Houston get a real good shot at it. I hope they don't panic and overpay, it's still a rebuilding year with a lot of talent at RB in the next draft.....
Be patient.
Rovers
Footballguy
Bri..... The Jets aren't using zone blocking.... it's a set play with a set gap for the RB to hit. Those holes can close quickly, and whether it's hesitation or trying to make a move on Blaylock's part, it doesn't work very well. In one simulated 4th and goal at the one, Blaylock did this spin move before he even made contact... running into the line leading with his back. Good way to get hurt, bad way to try to make a one yard plunge. Where Blaylock excells is as a reciever. He doesn't waste time fooling around with fakes, he just takes off and uses his speed.
I never liked RB's that try to dance around before hitting the line. Good way to lose a couple of yards.
Lots of rumors about Martin.... talk of him retiring, now reports that the Jets are looking at guys like Brown of the Titans and Thomas Jones. The Jets will need more than 3 RB's. Nick Hartigan has surprosed me. He's not a very good recieving FB, but he is very tough to bring down, and lays the lumber when he's blocking. He's not fast by any stretch, but very powerful.
Ben Graham.... unless someone else was at camp Tuesday pm session and can verify what I'm about to say, most people won't believe me. He looks to have abandoned that tumbling hard to catch punt that was consistantly good for 40 to 43 yards or so, in favor of the Torpedo, what the Aussies call our spiral punt. That is the technique just about all NFL punters use when they are looking for distance and hang time. Graham didn't use it last year because he said it was easier to shank a torpedo.
Well.... Graham came out and to my surprise started kicking spirals. He was hitting at the 15.... and I'm counting... that can't be right.... count again. They were consistantly coming down just a yard short of the twenty!
60 to 65 yards in the air! The hang times were all well over 5 seconds! There was one he hit that went about 67 yards and had to be almost 80 feet high! I have never, EVER seen punts travel like that! Maybe the oddball wind aided punt, but this was in a slight cross breeze. It was stupid sick. I kept recounting the distance.... it was hard to believe even with my own eyes. He was also kicking under a simulated rush, so it's not like he was taking too much time either.
If he continues this into the season, he's going to shatter some punting records. As far as his accuracy, that is what the Aussie game is all about. Last year Graham was outstanding at putting punts inside the ten, and he has near pin point accuracy directionally. That was a jaw dropping display on Tuesday evening.... just amazing.
I never liked RB's that try to dance around before hitting the line. Good way to lose a couple of yards.
Lots of rumors about Martin.... talk of him retiring, now reports that the Jets are looking at guys like Brown of the Titans and Thomas Jones. The Jets will need more than 3 RB's. Nick Hartigan has surprosed me. He's not a very good recieving FB, but he is very tough to bring down, and lays the lumber when he's blocking. He's not fast by any stretch, but very powerful.
Ben Graham.... unless someone else was at camp Tuesday pm session and can verify what I'm about to say, most people won't believe me. He looks to have abandoned that tumbling hard to catch punt that was consistantly good for 40 to 43 yards or so, in favor of the Torpedo, what the Aussies call our spiral punt. That is the technique just about all NFL punters use when they are looking for distance and hang time. Graham didn't use it last year because he said it was easier to shank a torpedo.
Well.... Graham came out and to my surprise started kicking spirals. He was hitting at the 15.... and I'm counting... that can't be right.... count again. They were consistantly coming down just a yard short of the twenty!
60 to 65 yards in the air! The hang times were all well over 5 seconds! There was one he hit that went about 67 yards and had to be almost 80 feet high! I have never, EVER seen punts travel like that! Maybe the oddball wind aided punt, but this was in a slight cross breeze. It was stupid sick. I kept recounting the distance.... it was hard to believe even with my own eyes. He was also kicking under a simulated rush, so it's not like he was taking too much time either.If he continues this into the season, he's going to shatter some punting records. As far as his accuracy, that is what the Aussie game is all about. Last year Graham was outstanding at putting punts inside the ten, and he has near pin point accuracy directionally. That was a jaw dropping display on Tuesday evening.... just amazing.
Winston Smith
Footballguy
Good stuff here.Bri..... The Jets aren't using zone blocking.... it's a set play with a set gap for the RB to hit. Those holes can close quickly, and whether it's hesitation or trying to make a move on Blaylock's part, it doesn't work very well. In one simulated 4th and goal at the one, Blaylock did this spin move before he even made contact... running into the line leading with his back. Good way to get hurt, bad way to try to make a one yard plunge. Where Blaylock excells is as a reciever. He doesn't waste time fooling around with fakes, he just takes off and uses his speed. I never liked RB's that try to dance around before hitting the line. Good way to lose a couple of yards. Lots of rumors about Martin.... talk of him retiring, now reports that the Jets are looking at guys like Brown of the Titans and Thomas Jones. The Jets will need more than 3 RB's. Nick Hartigan has surprosed me. He's not a very good recieving FB, but he is very tough to bring down, and lays the lumber when he's blocking. He's not fast by any stretch, but very powerful. Ben Graham.... unless someone else was at camp Tuesday pm session and can verify what I'm about to say, most people won't believe me. He looks to have abandoned that tumbling hard to catch punt that was consistantly good for 40 to 43 yards or so, in favor of the Torpedo, what the Aussies call our spiral punt. That is the technique just about all NFL punters use when they are looking for distance and hang time. Graham didn't use it last year because he said it was easier to shank a torpedo. Well.... Graham came out and to my surprise started kicking spirals. He was hitting at the 15.... and I'm counting... that can't be right.... count again. They were consistantly coming down just a yard short of the twenty!
wannabee
Footballguy
Jets | Coles dinged
Published Thu Aug 3 4:58:00 p.m. ET 2006
(KFFL) J.P. Pelzman, of the Bergen Record, reports New York Jets WR Laveranues Coles (leg) limped to the sideline with an apparent leg injury during practice Wednesday, Aug. 2. He returned briefly and then came out again.
Jets | Coles returns to action
Published Thu Aug 3 4:51:00 p.m. ET 2006
(KFFL) New York Jets WR Laveranues Coles was dressed and taking reps Thursday, Aug. 3, after having missed most of the previous day's practice, according to NewYorkJets.com.
Published Thu Aug 3 4:58:00 p.m. ET 2006
(KFFL) J.P. Pelzman, of the Bergen Record, reports New York Jets WR Laveranues Coles (leg) limped to the sideline with an apparent leg injury during practice Wednesday, Aug. 2. He returned briefly and then came out again.
Jets | Coles returns to action
Published Thu Aug 3 4:51:00 p.m. ET 2006
(KFFL) New York Jets WR Laveranues Coles was dressed and taking reps Thursday, Aug. 3, after having missed most of the previous day's practice, according to NewYorkJets.com.
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Rovers
Footballguy
He's been very inconsistant so far, but reports arehe has looked much better over the last two days. I'm not sure what to say about Ramsey, but I put Pennington at a 95% probabilty to be the strater now.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Somehow, despite being a Jayhawk the last 3 years, I always really liked Brad Smith's potential. Great to see him doing well in camp, maybe he'll even get some playing time this year. Keep up the good work, the Jets, while amongst the lesser teams in the NFL, have some intriguing story lines this year.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
good thing they gave him an extension!!!!
Reaper
Footballguy
Woah.....
http://www.nj.com/jets/ledger/index.ssf?/b...&thispage=2
DEPTH CHART
Second-year TE Joel Dreessen, a sixth-round pick out of Colorado State, is quietly having an outstanding camp and may make veteran Doug Jolley expendable. Dreessen has shown improvement in his receiving and he's a much better blocker than Jolley.
Veteran Chris Baker, who was re-signed this off-season, is entrenched as the starter.
This season, the Jets plan to use the tight ends as H-backs at times, having them line up in the fullback position and go in motion to the point of attack on running plays.
http://www.nj.com/jets/ledger/index.ssf?/b...&thispage=2
DEPTH CHART
Second-year TE Joel Dreessen, a sixth-round pick out of Colorado State, is quietly having an outstanding camp and may make veteran Doug Jolley expendable. Dreessen has shown improvement in his receiving and he's a much better blocker than Jolley.
Veteran Chris Baker, who was re-signed this off-season, is entrenched as the starter.
This season, the Jets plan to use the tight ends as H-backs at times, having them line up in the fullback position and go in motion to the point of attack on running plays.
In practice, he made a sweet TD catch in the endzone and Bryan Cox(LB Coach) was so infuriated he had the D doing punishment laps.
