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Jets trade Robertson to Broncos (1 Viewer)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
What does that have to do with Darren McFadden?
One of these days, the Broncos will actually draft a DT with talent rather than other team's cast offs.
One of these days, the Broncos will actually draft a DT with talent rather than other team's cast offs.
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msommer
Footballguy
The Jets might need a DT more than they would want McFadden now...
tombonneau
Footballguy
So who would they take instead? There are no DTs rated that high, unless they want to reach slightly for Ellis.
massraider
Footballguy
I think Robertson will be real good for the Broncs, assuming his knees hold up.Robertson is a victim of the 3-4, nothing more. In a 4-3, he may be a monster.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
If they're staying in the 3-4, neither Dorsey nor Ellis are a fit. It's likely neither will be there at #6 anyway.This doesn't change a thing as far as the Jets are concerned.
massraider
Footballguy
They already replaced Robertson, didn't they? I thought they picked up Jenkins.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
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Workhorse
Footballguy
Am I the only person that remembers that the Jets traded for and extended Kris Jenkins?
msommer
Footballguy
But maybe they are getting the ammo to go to #2 (if they actaully can find a player that fits)
msommer
Footballguy
Isn't he a 4-3 DT?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
All right. That's possible. But I can't see it being for either Dorsey or Ellis. So again, this has nothing to do with DMF.
msommer
Footballguy
It probably meant that they never wanted him in the first place (which validates you initially statement actually but we'll never know...)
massraider
Footballguy
What do you think Dorsey and Ellis are?Jenkins has eaten his way into Ted Washington range, so I think his best shot is as a NT in a 3-4.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
So much for DMac? What does that mean? What does trading away a meaningless player have to do with your first round draft board?
just curious.....what is the deal with undisclosed draft picks............
is it something you can decide to do whenever you want......tell or not tell.....is it just the two teams that know.....doesn't the NFL have to approve all trades.......
why wouldn't say KC and Minn not tell people what they did then........
why do some disclose and others not....
is it something you can decide to do whenever you want......tell or not tell.....is it just the two teams that know.....doesn't the NFL have to approve all trades.......
why wouldn't say KC and Minn not tell people what they did then........
why do some disclose and others not....
They have been functioning as if Robertson wouldn't be there for months. This has little impact on that #6 pick, except for they might have more picks this year to play with.McFadden, Ellis, Dorsey, Gholston and Long are all pretty much going to be on the draft board right where they were before.
massraider
Footballguy
The New York Jets have traded defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson to the Denver Broncos for a late-round conditional 2009 draft choice, reports NFL Networks' Adam Schefter.
If the above is true, a very good gamble by the Broncos.
If the above is true, a very good gamble by the Broncos.
FUBAR
Footballguy
If Dorsey's there, I don't see how Carl passes on his chance to finally get a premier DT.If Dorsey gets to KC, the Saints will make a trade to nab him. he'll enjoy life as a Chief.
sheerterror
Footballguy
Addition by subtraction with the $8million in salary cap relief this brings. Getting a draft pick is just gravy - considering the guy would have been cut if they couldn't trade him.
massraider
Footballguy
Mangini better make this 3-4 work, having gotten rid of two guys that didn't fit, and both were good players.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Dorsey won't be there, but if he was there he'd be the pick. Now that they've finally moved Robertson I think Ellis enters the picture. Both Dorsey and Ellis are capable playing end in the 3-4 and moving inside when they go with 4 down lineman. In fact, I think they'd be better picks than DMC.
zamboni
Footballguy
Exactly. The Jets have long moved on without Robertson. This just consummates getting what they can for him.
What about Marcus Thomas?
Reaper
Footballguy
Jets played a 4-3 under Herm..... meh.He won't be a monster but, he could be a good piece to an already good 4-3 defense playing next to a run stuffing bigger DT.
Reaper
Footballguy
To me, I wouldn't have paid Drob what he would want when his contract is up let alone the 8 mill now and change my whole defensive philosophy for 1 guy with bad knees..... Then there's Vilma - so make that 2 - I think Vilma is a 1 dimensional player who wants all the plays funneled his way - Bellichik laughs at that as if ALL players don't want that... I think Bellichik, Parcells and Mangini all want more versitile LB's than Vilma....Two guys - I'm sure it wasn't a cut and dry decision and either way, the defense was a work in progress - People act as if the Jets had The Chicago Beasr 85' defense and changed it up. Fact is, they STILL needed a wide body DT, LB's CB's and even S help.... I think in the end - Building the D the way Mangini is doing it will give it a highter ceiling and allow it to be less predictable..... The 4-3 might have been better in the short run only. Maybe.
Bingo.
Well Mangini inheritted a good defense. At the moment it seems like change for the sake of change. I think people are simply looking for progress. Mangini CAN coach a 4-3 D very well. He may prefer a 3-4 but he knows what he's doing with a 4-3.This team was so dramatically improved by him in his first year. People wanted more improvement but I think they feel the Jets took a step backward in the short time since then. If his D performs better than the one he inheritted, fans will be fine with it. If they don't....you don't last long as a coach in NY without success.
TLEF316
Footballguy
D-Rob was a pro-bowl alternate one year in the 4-3Glad we got rid of him, as his salary was too large to justify continuing to play him out of position. It looked like we would have to cut him for nothing.
Reaper
Footballguy
I was never impressed with that Bend but - Sometimes break defense that came before him....They had decent stats in 04' but every other year the Run defense was atrocious and the pass defense you couldn't even tell cuz everyone ran.It was a work in progress no matter what and needed a lot of key pieces in order to be a top Defense in the end...And one of the big decisions was wether paying Drob his current contract plus whatever he'd want afterwards was worth it for a guy with bum knees....I'm 100% happy with the decisions these guys are making and feel a ton more confident than the last regime....... And over the years on Jets boards, I haven't been known as an optimist - moreso a Darksider.Could they have pulled the trigger earlier and got more for Drob? Who knows he was on the hook for a lot more $$, I think they looked at Drob as their "Parcells - Hold the fort Guy" - Albeit expensive but, he was already here so, there was little choice in the matter....With Vilma, I think there was a lot of hope that he could do more and in the end I think he's a 1 dimensional player, not the kind of LB these guys (Parcells, Bellichik, Mangini) look for....I'm sure it was a tough decision and not just a force feeding of 1 defense over another... Again, I think the ceiling on the defense they are installing is a lot higher than keeping what they had - Again, that defense STILL needed major pieces and STILL would have had inevitable turnover - Possibly still Drob. They had a similar decision with John Abraham - DO you pay guys liek that top money that have injury risks? I think THe JAbe decision was correct so far as well....
Reaper
Footballguy
Meh.He still needs a top notch DT next to him making big $$$$.... He's not a dominate force like he was supposed to be in ANY defense.
TLEF316
Footballguy
agreed. He was much better when ferguson was there. Bottom line, the guy was supposed to become warren sapp and he didn't. Hard to fault him for that, but he's been a disapointment. Hard to hate the guy though. He player in pain and seemed to care.
