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Joe Montana (1 Viewer)
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If my "former employer" made me so stinking rich I could wipe my #### with $100 bills for the rest of my life and never had to work again, all this for playing a game, I would show up pretty much anywhere they wanted me at least once a year. Hell they could kick me in the chin during the appearance.
The Redbeard
Footballguy
I know that this has been run into the ground a bit, and those who have made up their mind are unlikely to change it, but, maybe we could give the guy a break. As a 49er fan who grew up worshiping Joe, would it have been nice to cheer for him in the pregame parade? Of course. But you know what? Joe spent a long time getting his bell rung and missing his children's early years so that you and I could drink beer and cheer everytime Joe hit Jerry in stride. I happen to RESPECT the fact that Joe chose to be at his childrens functions rather than parade around at the SuperBowl. And, as someone who lives in Santa Rosa, Joe keeps a very low profile, really only going out in public to attend his childrens sporting events. Owes me? Owes the game? Joe has children, those are real kids that need the love of their father. We are just people that like watching men run around with a dead pig in their hands.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...SPG9IH41CO1.DTL
"Joe Montana was in Detroit for Super Bowl activities on the Wednesday, Thursday and Friday prior to the game, but always had planned to return home before the weekend to be with his family," the statement read. "He fulfilled his promise to attend son Nathaniel's basketball game on Friday night and son Nicholas' game on Sunday, and then be home with his family to watch the Super Bowl."
Montana expounded on that statement on ESPN's "Quite Frankly with Stephen A. Smith." Smith reached Montana by phone at Montana's Santa Rosa home Monday.
"To me, it's more important to be home with my boys," Montana told Smith. "The Super Bowl is a great event, but I've moved on with my life."
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...SPG9IH41CO1.DTL
"Joe Montana was in Detroit for Super Bowl activities on the Wednesday, Thursday and Friday prior to the game, but always had planned to return home before the weekend to be with his family," the statement read. "He fulfilled his promise to attend son Nathaniel's basketball game on Friday night and son Nicholas' game on Sunday, and then be home with his family to watch the Super Bowl."
Montana expounded on that statement on ESPN's "Quite Frankly with Stephen A. Smith." Smith reached Montana by phone at Montana's Santa Rosa home Monday.
"To me, it's more important to be home with my boys," Montana told Smith. "The Super Bowl is a great event, but I've moved on with my life."
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
B-Deep. You simply do not get it.Reread what I wrote(and you disagreed with) and you will see early on I referenced he doesn't care about Pro Football anymore.If it comes out that the $100k was a lie and he never asked for a dime then I have no problem with him not going at all. But if he asked for $100k he's a first class jerk.
He's not a jerk, he is entitled to the $ IF they will pay it. He can ask, they can say no, and so can he.
MarshallRob
Footballguy
I remember reading in Richard Ben Cramer's DiMaggio book that in his later years, Ted Williams set his autograph price so high (like $400) to avoid having to do memorabilia shows. He hated that whole scene and purposely priced himself out of the market. He didn't actually expect anybody to meet his price. Of course this enraged DiMaggio who did want the money but didn't want anyone to be able to charge more than him, so he started demanding $500 to sign anything that already had Williams' signature.
If the $100,000 Montana story is true, maybe Montana just threw out some ridiculous figure he knew the NFL would never meet when they asked him what they needed to do to get him to show up.
If the $100,000 Montana story is true, maybe Montana just threw out some ridiculous figure he knew the NFL would never meet when they asked him what they needed to do to get him to show up.
B-Deep
Footballguy
I do get it. If he did not want to go because he feels bad for all the things he missed with his family, fine. Does $100k make it worth missing things with your family? Glad his family has a price. He wanted more cash to show, though no one else needed it, and when he gets called out for being a jerk all his defenders say it is because he is a family guy. I call BS on that. I wonder if Jerry Rice asked Montant to induct him in the hall of fame if Joe would charge Jerry an appearance fee.B-Deep. You simply do not get it.Reread what I wrote(and you disagreed with) and you will see early on I referenced he doesn't care about Pro Football anymore.If it comes out that the $100k was a lie and he never asked for a dime then I have no problem with him not going at all. But if he asked for $100k he's a first class jerk.
He's not a jerk, he is entitled to the $ IF they will pay it. He can ask, they can say no, and so can he.
ChromeWeasel
Footballguy
If Montana is all about his principles then he didnt ask for the money. B-Deep already ceded that much to you. The point whether Montana asked for $100,000.00 to show up. If he asked for the money to show up, and didnt show up because he didnt get paid, then ITS ABOUT THE MONEY, NOT FAMILY. Family is just an excuse if that's the case.Whether you hold that against him or not is another case. But you can't ask for a ton of money and then claim it isnt about the money. That's ludicrous.B-Deep. You simply do not get it.Reread what I wrote(and you disagreed with) and you will see early on I referenced he doesn't care about Pro Football anymore.If it comes out that the $100k was a lie and he never asked for a dime then I have no problem with him not going at all. But if he asked for $100k he's a first class jerk.
He's not a jerk, he is entitled to the $ IF they will pay it. He can ask, they can say no, and so can he.
The Redbeard
Footballguy
Here's the deal. It's all fine and good to sit and pass judgement against a player from the confines of your computer room and call them a jerk for whatever reason you feel justified. I only have one question -
Were you there when Joe Montana asked to be paid to appear? Do you know for a fact that no one else was compensated monetarily or otherwise? You spout off charater judgements because an unnamed league source claims Joe wanted cash. Nice how we all seem to take the high road and assume that Joe is a jerk and wanted money, and not a family man who wanted to get back home after a week of fulfilling obligations away from his home.
Anyway, as I said in my first post - my thougths won't change your mind. And for all the Boards I've been on in the past 5 years, nothing will change that fact that most of us seem to enjoy thinking/speaking the worst about people when we are guarded by anonymity and relying on hearsay and the media for our sources.
To Joe Montana (who will certainly never read this) - may your children bring you as many wonderful memories as you brought to all of us who enjoy the NFL.
Were you there when Joe Montana asked to be paid to appear? Do you know for a fact that no one else was compensated monetarily or otherwise? You spout off charater judgements because an unnamed league source claims Joe wanted cash. Nice how we all seem to take the high road and assume that Joe is a jerk and wanted money, and not a family man who wanted to get back home after a week of fulfilling obligations away from his home.
Anyway, as I said in my first post - my thougths won't change your mind. And for all the Boards I've been on in the past 5 years, nothing will change that fact that most of us seem to enjoy thinking/speaking the worst about people when we are guarded by anonymity and relying on hearsay and the media for our sources.
To Joe Montana (who will certainly never read this) - may your children bring you as many wonderful memories as you brought to all of us who enjoy the NFL.
Flying V
Footballguy
From the ESPN article:
Montana said money was never an issue and that he would not have attended the Super Bowl ceremony even if the appearance fee had been greater than the $100,000 he was reported to have requested.
Sources told each paper that Montana asked for a guarantee of at least $100,000 in appearance money.
I guess it boils down to who you want to believe; Montana or an anonymous source.
Montana said money was never an issue and that he would not have attended the Super Bowl ceremony even if the appearance fee had been greater than the $100,000 he was reported to have requested.
Sources told each paper that Montana asked for a guarantee of at least $100,000 in appearance money.
I guess it boils down to who you want to believe; Montana or an anonymous source.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Interesting caller on Kuselias' ESPN show yesterday evening.
Granted, it's talk radio and no way of knowing for sure but the guy said he went to Joe Montana's high school.
He told Kuselias to call up the high school in Pennsylvania (Roland? Didn't hear it exactly) and ask the school how much money Montana demanded for an appearance fee to show up at his high school reunion.
Kuselias sounded very skeptical of Montana's story the next day.
I'll say it again, I understand completly a celebrity being paid for their time. If I wanted Montana to hang out at the FBG booth, or speak at my event, or endorse my product, that costs $$$.
But there are times in your life when you get off the "I don't lift a finger unless you pay me" shtick. Ironically, I think that kind of mentality winds up costing you money in the long run.
J
Granted, it's talk radio and no way of knowing for sure but the guy said he went to Joe Montana's high school.
He told Kuselias to call up the high school in Pennsylvania (Roland? Didn't hear it exactly) and ask the school how much money Montana demanded for an appearance fee to show up at his high school reunion.
Kuselias sounded very skeptical of Montana's story the next day.
I'll say it again, I understand completly a celebrity being paid for their time. If I wanted Montana to hang out at the FBG booth, or speak at my event, or endorse my product, that costs $$$.
But there are times in your life when you get off the "I don't lift a finger unless you pay me" shtick. Ironically, I think that kind of mentality winds up costing you money in the long run.
J
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Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
Interesting caller on Kuselias' ESPN show yesterday evening.
Granted, it's talk radio and no way of knowing for sure but the guy said he went to Joe Montana's high school.
He told Kuselias to call up the high school in Pennsylvania (Roland? Didn't hear it exactly) and ask the school how much money Montana demanded for an appearance fee to show up at his high school reunion.
Kuselias sounded very skeptical of Montana's story the next day.
I'll say it again, I understand completly a celebrity being paid for their time. If I wanted Montana to hang out at the FBG booth, or speak at my event, or endorse my product, that costs $$$.
But there are times in your life when you get off the "I don't lift a finger unless you pay me" shtick.
J
His story about wanting to see his kids play sports last weekend was nothing more than a backpeddle.Now that he has been retired for several years, I'd bet he sees many more games than he misses due to other commitments.
Flying V
Footballguy
I don't know wether Montana is lying about the money or not, and I frankly don't care. But I am curious about one thing. For all you people who aren't willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, what was it about Joe that pegged him as a liar before all this happened? Does he have a history of lying (maybe to cover his perceived greed)?
A major factor on why this whole thing is big is this:
Montana won 3 MVP's. Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls with the team who was actually playing at this Super Bowl.
I know the NFL probably asks these guys to come to the Super Bowl every year. But do they have an MVP gathering like this at every S.B.? It would have been incredible to have those guys there, as well as Jake Scott.
There was a good interview this morning on Mike and Mike with Bill Curry (I think that is his name) talking about Bart Starr and John Unitas, and how they never turned down an autograph, even interrupting meals they had with their families. It was the whole point about how they don't have jobs without the fans.
I think the same thing applies here. Montana and Bradshaw have been retired for YEARS. Another night away for something positive for the NFL wouldn't have killed them or their families.
Montana won 3 MVP's. Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls with the team who was actually playing at this Super Bowl.
I know the NFL probably asks these guys to come to the Super Bowl every year. But do they have an MVP gathering like this at every S.B.? It would have been incredible to have those guys there, as well as Jake Scott.
There was a good interview this morning on Mike and Mike with Bill Curry (I think that is his name) talking about Bart Starr and John Unitas, and how they never turned down an autograph, even interrupting meals they had with their families. It was the whole point about how they don't have jobs without the fans.
I think the same thing applies here. Montana and Bradshaw have been retired for YEARS. Another night away for something positive for the NFL wouldn't have killed them or their families.
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There was some information posted on an ND fan site that suggested Joe has had some issues with the NFL over medical expenses. It sounded like Joe sued the 49ers, the NFL or the Players Association or someone to get them to cover medical expenses as a result of injuries he suffered during his career. Despite winning the suit, the defendant has refused to pay the money.
So, it doesn't seem like the NFL and Joe have a great relationship. He seems to be concerned not only for his own medical expenses but those of other NFL vets who have no coverage and aren't living off of the ridiculous salaries of today.
So, he has a right to turn down a visit for any reason he sees fit, but this may shed a little more light on the situation.
So, it doesn't seem like the NFL and Joe have a great relationship. He seems to be concerned not only for his own medical expenses but those of other NFL vets who have no coverage and aren't living off of the ridiculous salaries of today.
So, he has a right to turn down a visit for any reason he sees fit, but this may shed a little more light on the situation.
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