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footballguide1
Footballguy
Harrington 2 to 1 over Cpep. 
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Was Harrington cut or are the Lions trying to work a trade?
diesel7982
Footballguy
Getting a QB with 3 years starting experience for a 2nd day pick while your franchise Qb recovers from a horrific knee injury is a bad move?I dislike Harrington as much as anyone, but thats a great move. If Pepper isnt ready, their isnt a better option.I used to think Saban knew what he was doing.
Either Culpepper or Harrington probably would have been a good acquisition. Both?
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Is a second day pick what the Fins are supposedly going to offer?
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
Getting a QB with 3 years starting experience for a 2nd day pick while your franchise Qb recovers from a horrific knee injury is a bad move?I dislike Harrington as much as anyone, but thats a great move. If Pepper isnt ready, their isnt a better option.I used to think Saban knew what he was doing.
Either Culpepper or Harrington probably would have been a good acquisition. Both?
USAToday says he wanted 1 yr 3 mil from Cincy and this under the Fins
etroit quarterback Joey Harrington had a visit last week with the Dolphins, but it doesn't appear Miami is the frontrunner to acquire him via trade from the Lions. Harrington left to Cincinnati after meeting with the Dolphins and could soon have more visits awaiting as Detroit tries to deal the disgruntled four-year veteran.I also read the Jets have inquired about what type of compensation they're looking for but have not chatted with Joey or his agent.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Joey's worth no better than a fourth.
Native
Footballguy
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sport...ll/14244381.htm
The Dolphins still have to work out a trade with Detroit, which was looking for at least a sixth-round pick for Harrington. The Dolphins don't have a fifth- or sixth-round pick in 2006, but do have three seventh-round picks and could trade a future pick to the Lions.
Man, how the might have fallen.
The Dolphins still have to work out a trade with Detroit, which was looking for at least a sixth-round pick for Harrington. The Dolphins don't have a fifth- or sixth-round pick in 2006, but do have three seventh-round picks and could trade a future pick to the Lions.
Man, how the might have fallen.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
the dolphins are giving joey what he is looking for in a contract. 2 years at a little over 2 million per. the fins big issue is the draft picks to detriot here. Miami may have to give up a seventh and a pick in 2007 to get him.
While I like what saban is doing, the fact that we have so little draft picks this year bothers me.
While I like what saban is doing, the fact that we have so little draft picks this year bothers me.
The picks seem to be the sticking point. Not only do we not have many picks this year but I'm sure we're trying to get him for as cheap as possible from Det. I haven't heard one way or the other as to whether CPep will be starting the first game or not and I wouldn't complain about Harrington as a starter for the begining of the season.
This bothers me too Gatorman.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Did the fins sign Tommy Maddox or was that all just rumor?
How long before Dolphin fans are calling for Cleo Lemon?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Maybe that's who I should have taken in PDSL?
I dont know what you fins fans are crying about a 6th or 7th round pick for a backup QB with experience is a steal.
Joey didnt have the best situation in Detroit and I think it would be a great pickup for the fins or whomever. I personally would like to see him in Cinci If he has protection he can make the plays.
Joey didnt have the best situation in Detroit and I think it would be a great pickup for the fins or whomever. I personally would like to see him in Cinci If he has protection he can make the plays.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I agree entirely, which is why I want the Chiefs to go after Harrington if this is the asking price.
Those 2 QB's will now have a decent Oline, a very good running game and a respectable defense. Something they NEVER had in either Minn or Det.
I hear ya.Did Lion fans actually think Harrington could single handily carry the entire team to the playoffs without an Oline, running game or defense? Same question can be asked of Viking fans?I agree entirely, which is why I want the Chiefs to go after Harrington if this is the asking price.
Those 2 QB's will now have a decent Oline, a very good running game and a respectable defense. Something they NEVER had in either Minn or Det.
-OZ-
Footballguy
No, but we (fans on the whole) tend to overemphasize "skill positions" and ask why Joey couldn't hit Roy, Rogers, BMW and use Kevin Jones better. The one thing that concerns me about Joey is an apparent lack of leadership ability. He won't motivate a team to be better than they are like Brady or Vince Young, he won't rally the troops etc. or rather, hasn't shown that yet. Might just be a question of confidence, time should tell.I hear ya.Did Lion fans actually think Harrington could single handily carry the entire team to the playoffs without an Oline, running game or defense? Same question can be asked of Viking fans?I agree entirely, which is why I want the Chiefs to go after Harrington if this is the asking price.
Those 2 QB's will now have a decent Oline, a very good running game and a respectable defense. Something they NEVER had in either Minn or Det.
IMO, Harrington can and should be succesful with a good line and running game, but without those, he's sunk.
MSULions
Footballguy
he's also unlikely to have another coach in his career that completely ignores him in practice and refuses to talk to him outside of it. Can't imagine that helped much with his cahce with the rest of the team.No, but we (fans on the whole) tend to overemphasize "skill positions" and ask why Joey couldn't hit Roy, Rogers, BMW and use Kevin Jones better. The one thing that concerns me about Joey is an apparent lack of leadership ability. He won't motivate a team to be better than they are like Brady or Vince Young, he won't rally the troops etc. or rather, hasn't shown that yet. Might just be a question of confidence, time should tell.I hear ya.Did Lion fans actually think Harrington could single handily carry the entire team to the playoffs without an Oline, running game or defense? Same question can be asked of Viking fans?I agree entirely, which is why I want the Chiefs to go after Harrington if this is the asking price.
Those 2 QB's will now have a decent Oline, a very good running game and a respectable defense. Something they NEVER had in either Minn or Det.
IMO, Harrington can and should be succesful with a good line and running game, but without those, he's sunk.
Okay had to pipe back in here. Why couldnt Joey hit Roy, Rogers, BMW, KJ. I saw quite a few of the games and watched the routes they were running. They flat out sucked. Also when you know an OLine is weak you tend to stack the line and go after the QB. I would say almost every play was rushed and the routes these receivers were running collapsed fast. I mean even Garcia couldnt hit anyone when he was in there and how long has he been in the league, let alone played for Mooch before as well. If it truly was Harrington and not the crap routes then Garcia should have flourished.Don't pull out the Garcia was hurt card either, even when he was healthy he looked
As far as leadership goes. I dont by that either. Tell me who on the Lions helped mentor Harrington let alone stand with him. Everyone threw everything bad on his back and he took it. Then Mooch goes and Bly throws him under the bus as well. Nice leadership there. You cant throw Vince Young out there as a leader yet. Brady inheritted a good team from Bledsoe. He had other leaders on his roster as well that stood with him. Joey had diddly and how do you expect to lead as a rookie or 2nd year player with no one on your side.Joey was as much of a leader at Oregon as VY was at Texas. The problem is when you move to the NFL and there are people getting paid a crap ton of money then egos come out. Hell 90% of the lions are just there to collect a paycheck.Players like Brady, Rothlesburger, etc all had mentors prior to their arrival. Without those types of people supporting their QB then they are doomed. I see the same thing with Alex Smith, where are the Vets on that team.Harrington to Miami, Cinci, or KC would be a great fit for him to get back to slinging the rock. I also thought KC would be the perfect fit but they havent even shown any interest.Okay, i've rambled enough lol
Sinrman
Footballguy
I agree, and I'm a Lions fan. I hold no ill-will towards Joey, and wish him well. Perhaps he CAN make it elsewhere. Detroit has horrible management, and the personnel the last.........millenia, has been atrocious, so it's not all his fault.Getting a QB with 3 years starting experience for a 2nd day pick while your franchise Qb recovers from a horrific knee injury is a bad move?I dislike Harrington as much as anyone, but thats a great move. If Pepper isnt ready, their isnt a better option.I used to think Saban knew what he was doing.
Either Culpepper or Harrington probably would have been a good acquisition. Both?
Pick
Footballguy
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
Boy, those negotiations between DET & MIA will be real interesting now. Like making friends w/ the guy who just called your momma a name. DET handled this all wrong and now they will get nothing for Harrington because Miami is willing to wait until after June. Another dumb dumb feather in Millen's cap!
