Johnathan Stewart (1 Viewer)

[Bayhawks]

This thread is getting way off track.

This thread was started about Jonathan Stewart, and the OPs belief that he would get more carries this year (1/2) and all the goal-line carries. Then, it turned into a discussion of talent, then it turned into a discussion of who's better.

For the record, when I post (even when I quote someone else), I don't go back through every post in the thread to determine what the "series of posts" context is. I quoted a post that said Williams was healthier, not better, than Stewart. That was the context of my post. Not what another poster had said about Stewart's talent, not what you had posted about Stewart's short yardage abilities, but the statement that Williams was only healthier than Stewart.

Williams is the better FF back for 2009. If both Williams and Stewart stay healthy all year, Williams will put up better FF numbers.

 

[pollardsvision]

I've got Stewart in a keeper-auction league. I can keep him for $23 ($200 budget) with the price increasing $5 each year I keep him. I don't think I'm going to keep him. I really like his talent, but he's the ever banged-up back-up on a running game that I think is in for a rough season. I'll let him have a crap year this year and maybe pick him next season for $12 or so when everyone gives up on him.

He had 4 useful fantasy games last season and there's absolutely no reason to think he'll have a better season this season (and some solid reasons to think he'll be worse).

A fluky 30 TDs will make people quickly forget that it's generally a terrible thing for fantasy players to have 2 young, talented RBs forced to share a backfield. There will be alot of frustrated DWill/Stewart owners this season (unless one gets/stays hurt, which is certainly possible).

 

[SSOG]

This thread is getting way off track.This thread was started about Jonathan Stewart, and the OPs belief that he would get more carries this year (1/2) and all the goal-line carries. Then, it turned into a discussion of talent, then it turned into a discussion of who's better.For the record, when I post (even when I quote someone else), I don't go back through every post in the thread to determine what the "series of posts" context is. I quoted a post that said Williams was healthier, not better, than Stewart. That was the context of my post. Not what another poster had said about Stewart's talent, not what you had posted about Stewart's short yardage abilities, but the statement that Williams was only healthier than Stewart.Williams is the better FF back for 2009. If both Williams and Stewart stay healthy all year, Williams will put up better FF numbers.

The thread isn't getting off track. It's a thread about Jonathon Stewart, and no discussion about Stewart is complete without discussing what kind of role he's best suited for, how the Panthers have used him in the past and how they might use him in the future, what we might see from the Carolina offense in the future, and yes, even an in-depth discussion of the guy ahead of Stewart on the depth chart.Again, I don't think anyone was disputing that Williams is the better fantasy back for 2009, even the guys like me who think that Stewart is more talented. I mean, it's pretty much a no-brainer. Williams is the starter, Williams is getting the larger piece of the pie. There's really no debate there. The debate revolves around just how good Stewart really is. For my money, he's really, really good.

I've got Stewart in a keeper-auction league. I can keep him for $23 ($200 budget) with the price increasing $5 each year I keep him. I don't think I'm going to keep him. I really like his talent, but he's the ever banged-up back-up on a running game that I think is in for a rough season. I'll let him have a crap year this year and maybe pick him next season for $12 or so when everyone gives up on him.He had 4 useful fantasy games last season and there's absolutely no reason to think he'll have a better season this season (and some solid reasons to think he'll be worse).A fluky 30 TDs will make people quickly forget that it's generally a terrible thing for fantasy players to have 2 young, talented RBs forced to share a backfield. There will be alot of frustrated DWill/Stewart owners this season (unless one gets/stays hurt, which is certainly possible).

I doubt people are going to give up on Stewart no matter what he does this year. I think most people who are sky-high on Stewart's talent realize that he's the lesser part of an RBBC and won't hold any lack of production against him. I know I certainly won't. I love Stewart's ability, and as soon as he's got an offense to himself, I think he's going to be an absolute stud. You can cut him now while gambling that you can get him for $12 next year... but I would have a contingency plan at the ready, just in case.

 

[Maven]

Jonathan Stewart's Achilles still sore

Jonathan Stewart (sore Achilles' tendon) is up to 14 straight missed practices.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/foot...tml?eref=si_nfl

 

[FFCardsFan]

I'm starting to get legit. worried with this fellas. Initially I thought they were just restin him because he was a little banged up, but the dude hasnt see the field in weeks. In one of my main leagues I was countin on him to come up big as my flex/rb3 but this isnt looking good. I also have Goodson but not sure he'll get the oppurtunities. Any updates here guys?

 

[RBM]

This guy is the poster boy of why I despise the trend of having multiple back systems. He has everything you want in a rb; size, speed, vision, patience, power. If I could build a rb, he might come out. But because of the stupid rbbc trend, we are missing out on the prime years of what could be a major star.

 

[SSOG]

This guy is the poster boy of why I despise the trend of having multiple back systems. He has everything you want in a rb; size, speed, vision, patience, power. If I could build a rb, he might come out. But because of the stupid rbbc trend, we are missing out on the prime years of what could be a major star.

We're hardly missing out on his prime years. He's 22 year's old right now, the same age as Moreno or Donald Brown (no one seems to think they're missing THEIR prime years). DeAngelo's contract expires after 2010, and the team won't retain the services of both RBs, so worst case scenario is that he finally gets a starting job at the ripe old age of 24 (the same age that MJD finally got his starting job).You should be thankful for the RBBC, if anything. Williams is a better back right now, so if not for RBBC, Stewart wouldn't even be seeing the field.

 

[RBM]

This guy is the poster boy of why I despise the trend of having multiple back systems. He has everything you want in a rb; size, speed, vision, patience, power. If I could build a rb, he might come out. But because of the stupid rbbc trend, we are missing out on the prime years of what could be a major star.

We're hardly missing out on his prime years. He's 22 year's old right now, the same age as Moreno or Donald Brown (no one seems to think they're missing THEIR prime years). DeAngelo's contract expires after 2010, and the team won't retain the services of both RBs, so worst case scenario is that he finally gets a starting job at the ripe old age of 24 (the same age that MJD finally got his starting job).You should be thankful for the RBBC, if anything. Williams is a better back right now, so if not for RBBC, Stewart wouldn't even be seeing the field.

I dont own the guy, so this isnt a fantasy post. And no way can anybody say Williams is the better back, because Stewart has never gotten the chance to show what he could do as the main guy. You can say Williams is better in their stupid time-sharing thing, thats fine, but not that he is the better back. And I love Williams also, this isnt about Stewart vs Williams. I wish Williams had the load to himself as well because hes another great one that is being wasted.Ok on the age thing. I just know rbs can explode right out of college, moreso than other positions, so its not like they need to be groomed.

 

[Eagle Eye]

This guy is the poster boy of why I despise the trend of having multiple back systems. He has everything you want in a rb; size, speed, vision, patience, power. If I could build a rb, he might come out. But because of the stupid rbbc trend, we are missing out on the prime years of what could be a major star.

We're hardly missing out on his prime years. He's 22 year's old right now, the same age as Moreno or Donald Brown (no one seems to think they're missing THEIR prime years). DeAngelo's contract expires after 2010, and the team won't retain the services of both RBs, so worst case scenario is that he finally gets a starting job at the ripe old age of 24 (the same age that MJD finally got his starting job).You should be thankful for the RBBC, if anything. Williams is a better back right now, so if not for RBBC, Stewart wouldn't even be seeing the field.

I dont own the guy, so this isnt a fantasy post. And no way can anybody say Williams is the better back, because Stewart has never gotten the chance to show what he could do as the main guy. You can say Williams is better in their stupid time-sharing thing, thats fine, but not that he is the better back. And I love Williams also, this isnt about Stewart vs Williams. I wish Williams had the load to himself as well because hes another great one that is being wasted.Ok on the age thing. I just know rbs can explode right out of college, moreso than other positions, so its not like they need to be groomed.

In the Carolina games I've seen Williams looks like a special kind of back and Stewart looks like good, solid back. So there, I guess I just said it, Williams is better.

 

[RBM]

This guy is the poster boy of why I despise the trend of having multiple back systems. He has everything you want in a rb; size, speed, vision, patience, power. If I could build a rb, he might come out. But because of the stupid rbbc trend, we are missing out on the prime years of what could be a major star.

We're hardly missing out on his prime years. He's 22 year's old right now, the same age as Moreno or Donald Brown (no one seems to think they're missing THEIR prime years). DeAngelo's contract expires after 2010, and the team won't retain the services of both RBs, so worst case scenario is that he finally gets a starting job at the ripe old age of 24 (the same age that MJD finally got his starting job).You should be thankful for the RBBC, if anything. Williams is a better back right now, so if not for RBBC, Stewart wouldn't even be seeing the field.

I dont own the guy, so this isnt a fantasy post. And no way can anybody say Williams is the better back, because Stewart has never gotten the chance to show what he could do as the main guy. You can say Williams is better in their stupid time-sharing thing, thats fine, but not that he is the better back. And I love Williams also, this isnt about Stewart vs Williams. I wish Williams had the load to himself as well because hes another great one that is being wasted.Ok on the age thing. I just know rbs can explode right out of college, moreso than other positions, so its not like they need to be groomed.

In the Carolina games I've seen Williams looks like a special kind of back and Stewart looks like good, solid back. So there, I guess I just said it, Williams is better.

Yea, he is better in their time-sharing roles. But none of us know what Stewart would look like with 20 carries a game.

 

[SSOG]

Yea, he is better in their time-sharing roles. But none of us know what Stewart would look like with 20 carries a game.

Probably a lot like he looks with 10 carries a game, only more tired.

 

[plymkr]

Yea, he is better in their time-sharing roles. But none of us know what Stewart would look like with 20 carries a game.

Probably a lot like he looks with 10 carries a game, only more tired.

 

[Steelfan7]

Yea, he is better in their time-sharing roles. But none of us know what Stewart would look like with 20 carries a game.

Probably a lot like he looks with 10 carries a game, only more tired.

Dude can't stay healthy in his backup role. Right now I don't have much confidence in him staying healthy if he's getting 20 carries/game. I own both so I have no bias, but right now Williams is easily the better back.