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I'm not sure what I'm missing, PPR Stewart in the top 250 going forward is ahead of guys like Austin, A. Johnson, Dez Bryant, Bradshaw, Jennings.

It still seems like Carolina wont use him near the goaline and is only good for 6-10 points a week if lucky he catches 4 passes.

I don't watch much Carolina games, whats going on, why the high ranking. I'd much rather have any of the WR's or RB's above for flex at least.

RB20 is a low end 2nd RB, not many are starting him are they?

 
This afternoon, he's been climbing of late because they made him the starter but DeAngelo and Tolbert are getting sprinkled in and Cam's still a goal-line threat.

 
True, but 13 carries 35 yards and hoping for 4 catches isn't alot.

Maybe the rankings thought Williams would be traded at the deadline and never got moved back down?

 
I was wondering the exact same thing regarding Stewart's PPR ranking and thought the same thing - that maybe he'd been moved up before the NFL trade deadline and wasn't moved back down. I was thinking RB30 would make sense, but RB20 seems awfully high to me.

In a dynasty league, maybe RB20 makes a bit more sense?

 
'blake said:
In a dynasty league, maybe RB20 makes a bit more sense?
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I think he has Top 10-15 potential in dynasty/keeper PPR leagues. Williams seems a lock to be gone after this season and a new coaching staff could be in place as well. Even with Cam and Tolbert in the picture 2013 finally looks like the season when Stewart may get his first real chance at consistent starter's touches.Yeah I know, we've heard that all before but I really think this time it might finally be true.
 
Talent is there, situation is not. FBG's has pimped Stewart since he came in the league. I drank the kool-aid up until this season when I traded Stewart & Deangelo for Austin. So I agree he has no business being at RB20. Was almost impossible to trust stewart enough to start him. I'd put at RB30 or so.

 
Stewart was actually just released in my league and I had a jolt of excitement. I saw the high FBG ranking and I felt even more optimistic, but still had pangs of doubt which is why I looked here. I'm glad I did. I'll be taking a pass on Stewart...but not without a pang of regret...and some hope that no one else picks him up. Which will then tempt me endlessly.

 
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He only got ten touches in a game the panthers were winning, long term potential is still there but he's just depth until further notice

 
I just traded him for A. Johnson in a PPR dynasty. Did not want to move him but I was stacked at RB and needed a starting WR

 
'Gottabesweet said:
This afternoon, he's been climbing of late because they made him the starter but DeAngelo and Tolbert are getting sprinkled in and Cam's still a goal-line threat.
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Looking at RTS little popup news thing, he was named the starter October 26 or 24th. Hasn't changed much of anything stat wise
 
He's the most annoying FF RB this year IMO. 50 yards a week and should do so much better. I can't believe CJ only stunk for a few weeks, it seemed longer.

Stewart...I don't know that I'll ever start him.

This week it's Leshoure who had a terrible game against Vikes last time around 27 yards and I am debating a 27 yard and a 50 yard back. I flat out don't like the 10 carry weeks for Stewart and they are pretty common. Leshoure's many carries but few yards still give me a shot.

Brutal bad choice for me this week, it seems it'll surely be the guy who scores a TD as the difference in scoring after the games.

If you have Stewart, when are you ever going to start him?

Woodhead I picked up because no one is available and that little bugger gets 5 catches a week lately and winds up with 10 FF points. I need twenty from my backs, but that 10 is generally more than Stewart. Very frustrating, Stewart letting me down

 
'Andrew74 said:
Those acquiring him in dynasty leagues, what are you paying?
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Stewart was offered to me this week in a PPR league, the price being two 2014 1st round picks.I declined, with this reply: "Every time I've bought into Stewart and the Carolina promises I've been burned. It's a dysfunctional organization and at this point I just see him as a perpetual tease I really want no part of any more. I'm a Stewart owner this year in a couple leagues and he's done his share to ruin my season, so if I seem disgusted with him, I am."Last season and this, all you can really count on is 6-7 points (PPR), with an occasional decent game thrown in. With Cam vulturing TDs and both Tolbert and Williams involved when healthy, Stewart just isn't worth a heavy investment to me any more. And I just don't believe anything coming out of the mouths of the Carolina coaches either. Say what they might, if DeAngelo leaves in 2013 they'll just increase Tolbert's involvement. I'm done believing Stewart ever will see 250+ carries in the future. All that ability pretty much wasted for fantasy purposes.
 
I was so close to adding him because of Dodds' and Bloom's high ranking for him...but went with Marcel Reece instead, partly because of this thread...over Joique Bell. Let's hope the dice roll pans out for all of us.

 
If im ANY owner holding stock in Cam/Stew/Smith or Dwill id be praying to god for a serious change of personel soon or at seasons end. This team is inept on both sides of the ball right now and theres no silver lining here to hang hope on. I think Chudz is a very very over hyped offensive coord and the marraige with Newton looks all but over. No identity offensively at all, careless spending on positions(RB) allready cost the GM his job so its only a matter of time for the other three dominos to fall.

 
'Hendo said:
If im ANY owner holding stock in Cam/Stew/Smith or Dwill id be praying to god for a serious change of personel soon or at seasons end. This team is inept on both sides of the ball right now and theres no silver lining here to hang hope on. I think Chudz is a very very over hyped offensive coord and the marraige with Newton looks all but over. No identity offensively at all, careless spending on positions(RB) allready cost the GM his job so its only a matter of time for the other three dominos to fall.
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The defense is playing well :shrug:
 
I traded him away for Gonzo today in a dynasty. The other owner is out of contention and owns Gronkowski. I started him in another league but wasn't expecting much, which is what I didn't get.

 
'The Commish said:
'Hendo said:
If im ANY owner holding stock in Cam/Stew/Smith or Dwill id be praying to god for a serious change of personel soon or at seasons end. This team is inept on both sides of the ball right now and theres no silver lining here to hang hope on. I think Chudz is a very very over hyped offensive coord and the marraige with Newton looks all but over. No identity offensively at all, careless spending on positions(RB) allready cost the GM his job so its only a matter of time for the other three dominos to fall.
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The defense is playing well :shrug:
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This is true. The defense has been very good for the past month...the offense is what is killing them.I was at the game today and Stewart looked good. It was the inept play calling and poor offense around him that hurt him today. He also had a big play (around 40-50 yards) that was called back by a penalty. It's unfortunate that he's being wasted in this offense, but I'm hopeful (as a fan of the Panthers...I don't own Stewart), that they will make him a centerpiece of the offense going into the last 7 games of the season.Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it will happen.
 
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'solorca said:
'The Commish said:
'Hendo said:
If im ANY owner holding stock in Cam/Stew/Smith or Dwill id be praying to god for a serious change of personel soon or at seasons end. This team is inept on both sides of the ball right now and theres no silver lining here to hang hope on. I think Chudz is a very very over hyped offensive coord and the marraige with Newton looks all but over. No identity offensively at all, careless spending on positions(RB) allready cost the GM his job so its only a matter of time for the other three dominos to fall.
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The defense is playing well :shrug:
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This is true. The defense has been very good for the past month...the offense is what is killing them.I was at the game today and Stewart looked good. It was the inept play calling and poor offense around him that hurt him today. He also had a big play (around 40-50 yards) that was called back by a penalty. It's unfortunate that he's being wasted in this offense, but I'm hopeful (as a fan of the Panthers...I don't own Stewart), that they will make him a centerpiece of the offense going into the last 7 games of the season.Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it will happen.
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Im not sure it will hapoen either... in fact I almost doubt it but I am hopeful that the new management that will come in after they can this crew will make the obvious changes this team needs to be successful at moving the ball. And this isnt entirely directed at Stewart rather then multiple changes need to be made.
 
'solorca said:
Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it will happen.
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I don't think it will at this point. I'm not sure what more Stewart has to do to earn more touches but nothing seems to be changing the coaching staff's minds. I stopped watching the game - did he even get another touch after his 60-yard catch was called back? Amazing how under-utilized this guy is considering how well he's been playing.
 
'packersfan said:
'solorca said:
Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it will happen.
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I don't think it will at this point. I'm not sure what more Stewart has to do to earn more touches but nothing seems to be changing the coaching staff's minds. I stopped watching the game - did he even get another touch after his 60-yard catch was called back? Amazing how under-utilized this guy is considering how well he's been playing.
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He had a few, but they were in bad spots. He fumbled one of them (it was recovered by Carolina).
 
It used to be, in fantasy, that people always said follow the talent; that the cream will rise to the top. I've always thought opportunity was every bit as much a factor in fantasy as anything, but watching this Carolina situation has pointed out to me that I was only reading half the equation. I always thought JSTEW's limited production was directly tied to DWIL. I've overlooked that the coaches are holding him (ant the team) back as much as anything.

I know, that seems like an obvious thing but it just completely went over my head. I guess because I don't watch many of their games. But this year, I've been paying closer attention and I just can't think that this ever turns out to be a fruitful fantasy situaiton without major change. As it looks now, that change may be imminent because I haven't seen hardly anyone painting a silver lining picture for this team at any level in a long whie.

So I will be like most of you: not expecting much of anything right now. I take some solace in the notion that JSTEW is still young. Young enough to where, with a major REAL change, he could be a factor as early as next season for a couple of good years.

If there is anything that might give him a MAJOR boost going forward (something that is plausible), it would be if Bill Cowhler were to toss his name in the hat for coaching that team. I think just the idea of a tried and true coach coming in to stabilize the team would be a good thing for all players involved. We can dream, right?

 
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'Shutout said:
It used to be, in fantasy, that people always said follow the talent; that the cream will rise to the top. I've always thought opportunity was every bit as much a factor in fantasy as anything, but watching this Carolina situation has pointed out to me that I was only reading half the equation. I always thought JSTEW's limited production was directly tied to DWIL. I've overlooked that the coaches are holding him (ant the team) back as much as anything. I know, that seems like an obvious thing but it just completely went over my head. I guess because I don't watch many of their games. But this year, I've been paying closer attention and I just can't think that this ever turns out to be a fruitful fantasy situaiton without major change. As it looks now, that change may be imminent because I haven't seen hardly anyone painting a silver lining picture for this team at any level in a long whie.So I will be like most of you: not expecting much of anything right now. I take some solace in the notion that JSTEW is still young. Young enough to where, with a major REAL change, he could be a factor as early as next season for a couple of good years.If there is anything that might give him a MAJOR boost going forward (something that is plausible), it would be if Bill Cowhler were to toss his name in the hat for coaching that team. I think just the idea of a tried and true coach coming in to stabilize the team would be a good thing for all players involved. We can dream, right?
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Hard to believe these are the same 2 rbs that combined for over 5000 total yds!!!!!!! and 48 TDs !!!!!!!!! over a 2 year period!!!!!!!
 
It's almost like Rivera is waiting for his offense to turn a corner and come into it's own. But it simply isn't happening. I don't think it ever will. The longer they hold on to Rivera, the longer this offense will be limited.

 
'Sabertooth said:
It's almost like Rivera is waiting for his offense to turn a corner and come into it's own.
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Perhaps that could happen or get closer to happening if the team made a legitimate commitment to Stewart like they said they would a few weeks ago instead of once again going back to the heavy rotation approach with all three backs. It's not like Stewart isn't earning more touches. He's looked great lately. They just refuse to give him the type of workload his performance would seem to merit.
 
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'Sabertooth said:
It's almost like Rivera is waiting for his offense to turn a corner and come into it's own. But it simply isn't happening. I don't think it ever will. The longer they hold on to Rivera, the longer this offense will be limited.
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It's pretty much a given here in Carolina that he will not be the coach next season. I guess anything is possible, but all of the beat writers, fans, etc. expect him to be gone.
 
I'm still fascinated that a week later, FBG still has Stewart ranked highly for their Top 250 forward list. I mean, I guess the options below him are not that alluring, but still. I think I might rather have Andre Brown at this point than Stewart. Hell, even McFadden is rated lower.

 
'packersfan said:
'Sabertooth said:
It's almost like Rivera is waiting for his offense to turn a corner and come into it's own.
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Perhaps that could happen or get closer to happening if the team made a legitimate commitment to Stewart like they said they would a few weeks ago instead of once again going back to the heavy rotation approach with all three backs. It's not like Stewart isn't earning more touches. He's looked great lately. They just refuse to give him the type of workload his performance would seem to merit.
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Perhaps they committed to the wrong rb.
 
'monk said:
'packersfan said:
'Sabertooth said:
It's almost like Rivera is waiting for his offense to turn a corner and come into it's own.
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Perhaps that could happen or get closer to happening if the team made a legitimate commitment to Stewart like they said they would a few weeks ago instead of once again going back to the heavy rotation approach with all three backs. It's not like Stewart isn't earning more touches. He's looked great lately. They just refuse to give him the type of workload his performance would seem to merit.
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Perhaps they committed to the wrong rb.
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They haven't committed to him. That's the point. He has only 18 carries the last two games combined. He went nearly two full quarters of a close game two weeks ago without a single rushing attempt. If they actually committed to him and he sucked then I could see them moving away from him. But they basically gave him one game with feature back carries and then went right back to the heavy rotation approach Rivera specifically said they were never going to use again.That's poor coaching, pure and simple, in my opinion. At least give Stewart a legitimate chance to succeed or fail. I don't understand why that's been such a difficult concept for them to grasp after publicly saying that is what they were going to do.
 
'Hendo said:
If im ANY owner holding stock in Cam/Stew/Smith or Dwill id be praying to god for a serious change of personel soon or at seasons end. This team is inept on both sides of the ball right now and theres no silver lining here to hang hope on. I think Chudz is a very very over hyped offensive coord and the marraige with Newton looks all but over. No identity offensively at all, careless spending on positions(RB) allready cost the GM his job so its only a matter of time for the other three dominos to fall.
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the gm cost himself his job and it was a miracle he lasted this long.
 
'blake said:
I'm still fascinated that a week later, FBG still has Stewart ranked highly for their Top 250 forward list. I mean, I guess the options below him are not that alluring, but still. I think I might rather have Andre Brown at this point than Stewart. Hell, even McFadden is rated lower.
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Funny, you mention these 3 RB's.A couple days after DMC went down with his high ankle sprain against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I traded DMC for Jonathan Stewart and Andre Brown. I asked folks to grade my trade and got an F and a F- grade.I was hoping that JStew was going to be the man after Coach Riviera said he was going away from the RBBC dogpile, but as I read the comments in this post, it looks like Riviera broke his promise.As a brand new Jonathan Stewart owner, my gamble on him seems to be wasted. UNLESS! It changes this week and JStew gets 17+ touches. If he does, then I'll be agonizing over whether I should start him next week. :yes:
 
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