Jose Bautista (1 Viewer)

[Northern Voice]

So, what the hell do you make of this guy?

He hit two more home runs tonight, to get to 30 on the year. Coming into the season, he was supposed to be the Jays "supersub" who can play half the positions on the diamond and play them well. He doesn't hit for a ton of average but he gets on base well and has a cannon of an arm in the outfield (or at 3rd).

Anyone think he gets traded before the deadline? If not, do the Jays extend him for a couple years (he's arbitration eligible after this season and unrestricted after 2011). Would something like 3 years / 24 million be about the right price given his (total lack of) history? And if the Jays pay him that will they come to regret it (i.e. will he hit 15 HR's next season like everyone expected?). It's worth noting, he led all of MLB in home runs last September as well, so this roll he's been on, has carried over one offseason.

 

[Billy Bats]

Honestly I think he's Gary Matthews Jr. part deux. Now I have no stats to back it up, I'm no sabrematrician, but just a regular follower of baseball. I don't see this guy sustaining this type of power over a 3 year contract. And without this kind of power, what else does he give you? I think he'll be a major disappointment for anyone that signs him.

(But since I just traded for him in my AL only playoff run, I really hope he stays this hot, and doesn't get dealt to the NL)

 

[whoknew]

The Jays should definitely try to trade him.

 

[bweiser]

i remember him being considered a 30-HR type of guy when he was still a pirates prospect. sometimes, players are just late developers. it's a definite sell-high for the jays, but what do they ask for? if they shoot for the moon, and get it, then they should make the deal. they shouldn't just deal him for a middling prospect.

is he holding someone back in the jays organization?

 

[TBam]

I had him on my roster for about 2 weeks early on in the season, wish I still had him now

 

[pantagrapher]

PEDs.

 

[Northern Voice]

is he holding someone back in the jays organization?

Not really. The Jays have no real 3B of the future. There's no one in the system at all who is going to have any impact at 3B. There's no one pressing immediately in terms of an outfield prospect either, but they need to get Travis Snider back playing every day. They have a bit of an issue right now, in that when Snider finishes his rehab assignment and comes back up (which is Friday), they'll have to take either Fred Lewis or Edwin Encarnacion out of the lineup, but they're nothing special and Bautista has been a stud.

 

[dparker713]

Anderson, Brady

 

[MAC_32]

I didn't follow him much as a prospect, so maybe there's something I missed along the way but at best he's got to be this year's Garrett Jones, right? Not a slight against Jones, he just isn't as good as he was the 2nd half in 2009, he's just servicable.

If the Jays can find a sucker, deal him away, but given his age and history I think that'll be easier said than done.

 

[Wrigley]

Anderson, Brady

Rod, A

 

[bweiser]

I didn't follow him much as a prospect, so maybe there's something I missed along the way but at best he's got to be this year's Garrett Jones, right? Not a slight against Jones, he just isn't as good as he was the 2nd half in 2009, he's just servicable.If the Jays can find a sucker, deal him away, but given his age and history I think that'll be easier said than done.

i don't know if they need a sucker. they need someone who has a need for batista. there are teams out there. he isn't signed for next year, so teams aren't going to get a whole lot. batista and the jays can talk in the next two days, figure out that batista wants to come back next year and then they trade him away for a couple of decent prospects. then, in the offseason, batista resigns. great rental for 2 months if batista doesn't get his panties in a bunch if he gets traded. is he garrett jones? i think brady anderson might be a little better. batista has at least some MLB track record of 3 years of about 15 homers. regular playing time and a career year. not hard to believe.

 

[Northern Voice]

Bautista also leads the league in OF assists, despite playing over 30 games at 3B. 2 more doubles last night. I'm hoping more and more he stays a Jay.

 

[Northern Voice]

GRAND SLAM

 

[Northern Voice]

2 more tonight. 40 now.

 

[shadyridr]

So he totally overreacted to that pitch by Nova but then the stare down of Robertson after his 2nd HR and the fist pump at home plate mocking Cervelli was a bit much.

 

[Northern Voice]

So he totally overreacted to that pitch by Nova but then the stare down of Robertson after his 2nd HR and the fist pump at home plate mocking Cervelli was a bit much.

You don't think Nova was throwing at him? It seemed pretty obvious by his reaction after the pitch that he was.

 

[shadyridr]

So he totally overreacted to that pitch by Nova but then the stare down of Robertson after his 2nd HR and the fist pump at home plate mocking Cervelli was a bit much.

You don't think Nova was throwing at him? It seemed pretty obvious by his reaction after the pitch that he was.

the pitch wasnt really that inside

 

[wilked]

clearly throwing at him.

Cervelli's antics were a joke, I am not surprised they have caused a reaction

edit to add http://www.pinstripealley.com/2010/6/21/15...-a-yankee-worth

 

[Premier]

So he totally overreacted to that pitch by Nova but then the stare down of Robertson after his 2nd HR and the fist pump at home plate mocking Cervelli was a bit much.

You don't think Nova was throwing at him? It seemed pretty obvious by his reaction after the pitch that he was.

the pitch wasnt really that inside

Are you serious? The one over his head?

 

[bweiser]

Paulino got suspended. Wouldn't surprise me if this guy was next.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

So he totally overreacted to that pitch by Nova but then the stare down of Robertson after his 2nd HR and the fist pump at home plate mocking Cervelli was a bit much.

You don't think Nova was throwing at him? It seemed pretty obvious by his reaction after the pitch that he was.

the pitch wasnt really that inside

Are you serious? The one over his head?

Bautista starts his batting stance with his hands well over the plateThat pitch was barely off the plate and highI don't think there's any chance nova was throwing at him there in a tie gameAnd I don't see how him not backing down from bautista's overreaction is evidence of any intent

 

[Limp Ditka]

So he totally overreacted to that pitch by Nova but then the stare down of Robertson after his 2nd HR and the fist pump at home plate mocking Cervelli was a bit much.

You don't think Nova was throwing at him? It seemed pretty obvious by his reaction after the pitch that he was.

the pitch wasnt really that inside

Are you serious? The one over his head?

Pitch was up over his hands. At no time did it get inside enough to be over his head. Cervelli, who was set up just inside, went straight up with the glove, not behind Bautista.

 

[Timmay]

Batista certainly overreacted to that throw, the ball was high and inside, but not over his head. I am always glad to see the Yankees lose, so i was alright with the fist bump and everything.

 

[shadyridr]

So he totally overreacted to that pitch by Nova but then the stare down of Robertson after his 2nd HR and the fist pump at home plate mocking Cervelli was a bit much.

You don't think Nova was throwing at him? It seemed pretty obvious by his reaction after the pitch that he was.

the pitch wasnt really that inside

Are you serious? The one over his head?

reminded of clemens pitch "inside" to Manny

 

[Raider Nation]

What happened to the thread I started back in March where I predicted this guy would hit 50?





Anyhooo, I really hope it doesn't come out later that he juiced. I need something to believe in!

 

[Northern Voice]

He's also 2nd in the AL in walks bp: and 2nd in OF assists, so even if he drops to 30 HR next season, he might earn the $9 million or so he's sure to get in arbitration this offseason. I'd like to see the Jays sign him to a 3 year deal. He can cash in on what will surely be a career year, and the Jays can get him for at least a couple more years.

 

[Eephus]

What happened to the thread I started back in March where I predicted this guy would hit 50? Anyhooo, I really hope it doesn't come out later that he juiced. I need something to believe in!

It's a shame that PEDs are always somewhere in the back of my mind whenever someone accomplishes something unexpected.

 

[Northern Voice]

2 for 2 with 2 Home Runs and 2 walks tonight... 52 for the year now.

 

[Premier]

I can't believe this guy ever sees a fastball.

 

[Northern Voice]

I can't believe this guy ever sees a fastball.

Luckily for him, Vernon Wells has had a nice rebound season behind him in the cleanup position. They walked Bautista in the 4th and Wells hit a 2 run shot for his 30th of the season.

 

[Northern Voice]

He was hit twice by the Orioles today. Stay classy Baltimore

 

[shadyridr]

What happened to the thread I started back in March where I predicted this guy would hit 50? Anyhooo, I really hope it doesn't come out later that he juiced. I need something to believe in!

please find that thread. awesome prediction if true

 

[Please See Mine]

What happened to the thread I started back in March where I predicted this guy would hit 50? Anyhooo, I really hope it doesn't come out later that he juiced. I need something to believe in!

please find that thread. awesome prediction if true

sarcasm detector on the fritz?

 

[shadyridr]

What happened to the thread I started back in March where I predicted this guy would hit 50? Anyhooo, I really hope it doesn't come out later that he juiced. I need something to believe in!

please find that thread. awesome prediction if true

sarcasm detector on the fritz?

so he was being sarcastic?

 

[Raider Nation]

What happened to the thread I started back in March where I predicted this guy would hit 50? Anyhooo, I really hope it doesn't come out later that he juiced. I need something to believe in!

please find that thread. awesome prediction if true

sarcasm detector on the fritz?

so he was being sarcastic?

Not really "sarcasm".... more of an outright lie.

 

[Da Guru]

JB should be the top pick in FFBB next year. Will anybody have the nuts to do it?

To go from a career high of 16 HRS to a total possibly in the mid 50s when all is said and done is the greatest differential in MLB history. Something smells fishy.

 

[Northern Voice]

2 more tonight, 54 on the season. His 1st of the night was a grand slam, the 2nd of the night was to opposite field. It was his first opposite field HR of the season, the first 53 were all pulled.

 

[the moops]

JB should be the top pick in FFBB next year. Will anybody have the nuts to do it?

He should not be the top pick next year.

 

[RnR]

JB should be the top pick in FFBB next year. Will anybody have the nuts to do it?

He should not be the top pick next year.

Won't even sniff the first round...

 

[the moops]

JB should be the top pick in FFBB next year. Will anybody have the nuts to do it?

He should not be the top pick next year.

Won't even sniff the first round...

I think he will sneak into the first round in quite a bit of drafts. I wouldn't take him, but I imagine someone will.Pujols, Gonzalez, Cabrera, Hanley, Crawford, Votto, Longoria all need to go in front of him in any and every draft I would think. With quite a few others that I am forgetting about I am sure.

 

[Raider Nation]

2 more tonight, 54 on the season. His 1st of the night was a grand slam, the 2nd of the night was to opposite field.

The grand slam was a ####ing BOMB! I swear there was a stewardess on it.3rd deck at Target Field.

 

[RnR]

JB should be the top pick in FFBB next year. Will anybody have the nuts to do it?

He should not be the top pick next year.

Won't even sniff the first round...

I think he will sneak into the first round in quite a bit of drafts. I wouldn't take him, but I imagine someone will.Pujols, Gonzalez, Cabrera, Hanley, Crawford, Votto, Longoria all need to go in front of him in any and every draft I would think. With quite a few others that I am forgetting about I am sure.

Oh, there are probably 40 or 50 guys you could make a healthy case for over Bautista in a 2011 draft. Your point is well taken though, there is always someone that thinks they are acquiring last year's numbers when drafting players. I'm 100% sure he won't see my roster in 2011, because there will always be someone that values him higher than me. I'm okay with that.

 

[Michael Brown]

JB should be the top pick in FFBB next year. Will anybody have the nuts to do it?

He should not be the top pick next year.

Won't even sniff the first round...

I think he will sneak into the first round in quite a bit of drafts. I wouldn't take him, but I imagine someone will.Pujols, Gonzalez, Cabrera, Hanley, Crawford, Votto, Longoria all need to go in front of him in any and every draft I would think. With quite a few others that I am forgetting about I am sure.

Oh, there are probably 40 or 50 guys you could make a healthy case for over Bautista in a 2011 draft. Your point is well taken though, there is always someone that thinks they are acquiring last year's numbers when drafting players. I'm 100% sure he won't see my roster in 2011, because there will always be someone that values him higher than me. I'm okay with that.

Agreed. I won't draft him in any leagues for that very reason. However, in my one keeper league we are able to carry over players who were in-season FA pickups for one year. Their current dollar value carries over to the following season, and we have to give up a 15th rounder. At a buck for that round, it's a no-brainer to keep him. Or perhaps better yet, to try and trade him over the winter for a 2nd rounder or something.What sort of numbers are we expecting from him in 2011? I'm looking at around .250-30-100 myself. I've also heard word of him going back to 3B next year, which enhances his value quite a bit.

 

[Northern Voice]

Bautista will be eligible again at 3B next year, but I think he'll spend most of his time in RF. He's among the league leaders in outfield assists, and if you watch him regularly, he's better defensively in the outfield than he is at 3rd. That could change, but right now it looks like the Jays want to go with Snider-Wells-Bautista in the outfield (and they should be good for about 100 home runs between the three of them). Also, Bautista's batting average isn't too impressive but he is 2nd in the AL in walks, so in OBP leagues, he's not really a liability.

Thoughts on 53 of 54 home runs being pulled? I think it points away from steroids, he's not powering it out all over the place, he just knows how to turn on the ball. Also, he said in an interview last week that he's been tested 4 times this season.

 

[Billy Bats]

Interesting dilemma I have, I traded for him for my playoff run in an AL only keeper (points) league with no plans on keeping him. BUT now I'm almost forced to keep him.... RIGHT?!? I know he's going to suck next year, probably not even hit 25, but do I want to be THAT guy who cuts a possible 50hr slugger??

 

[Mr. Pickles]

This man is going straight to hell.

 

[shadyridr]

Bautista will be eligible again at 3B next year, but I think he'll spend most of his time in RF. He's among the league leaders in outfield assists, and if you watch him regularly, he's better defensively in the outfield than he is at 3rd. That could change, but right now it looks like the Jays want to go with Snider-Wells-Bautista in the outfield (and they should be good for about 100 home runs between the three of them). Also, Bautista's batting average isn't too impressive but he is 2nd in the AL in walks, so in OBP leagues, he's not really a liability.Thoughts on 53 of 54 home runs being pulled? I think it points away from steroids, he's not powering it out all over the place, he just knows how to turn on the ball. Also, he said in an interview last week that he's been tested 4 times this season.

Is he being tested for HGH? No

 

[dparker713]

Bautista will be eligible again at 3B next year, but I think he'll spend most of his time in RF. He's among the league leaders in outfield assists, and if you watch him regularly, he's better defensively in the outfield than he is at 3rd. That could change, but right now it looks like the Jays want to go with Snider-Wells-Bautista in the outfield (and they should be good for about 100 home runs between the three of them). Also, Bautista's batting average isn't too impressive but he is 2nd in the AL in walks, so in OBP leagues, he's not really a liability.Thoughts on 53 of 54 home runs being pulled? I think it points away from steroids, he's not powering it out all over the place, he just knows how to turn on the ball. Also, he said in an interview last week that he's been tested 4 times this season.

Is he being tested for HGH? No

Has HGH been proven to help in hitting HRs? NO

 

[pantagrapher]

PEDs.

 

[shadyridr]

Bautista will be eligible again at 3B next year, but I think he'll spend most of his time in RF. He's among the league leaders in outfield assists, and if you watch him regularly, he's better defensively in the outfield than he is at 3rd. That could change, but right now it looks like the Jays want to go with Snider-Wells-Bautista in the outfield (and they should be good for about 100 home runs between the three of them). Also, Bautista's batting average isn't too impressive but he is 2nd in the AL in walks, so in OBP leagues, he's not really a liability.Thoughts on 53 of 54 home runs being pulled? I think it points away from steroids, he's not powering it out all over the place, he just knows how to turn on the ball. Also, he said in an interview last week that he's been tested 4 times this season.

Is he being tested for HGH? No

Has HGH been proven to help in hitting HRs? NO

Has steroids?