Joseph Addai (1 Viewer)

[EBF]

...he isn't that good.

Since the halfway point of last season:

11 games

152 carries

475 yards

3.13 YPC

 

[Jambi]

...he isn't that good. Since the halfway point of last season:11 games152 carries475 yards3.13 YPC

Buy low

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

 

[Jedimaster21]

Seconds until Switz swoops in to defend him...3...2...1...

 

[TitusIII]

Compared to the other RB's in the league? Yeah, he isn't special by any stretch of the imagination. Nevertheless, if/when the Indy offense gets going, he becomes a "product of the system" and a good one at that...

 

[Jambi]

Seconds until Switz swoops in to defend him...3...2...1...

 

[Eviloutsider]

I agree his skillset is weak but he is still in a great position in that offense.

 

[EBF]

I agree his skillset is weak but he is still in a great position in that offense.

Yea, but for how long?Indy isn't the type of team that's constantly shuffling its personnel like Denver or Oakland, but if Addai continues to produce at this atrocious clip then you have to think Polian will look for someone who can perform better. I think I'd be looking to move Joseph if I had him in any of my dynasty leagues. He isn't an elite back, but he's valued like one.

 

[timschochet]

I had the 6th pck in my draft, and I really waivered between Addai and Barber. In the end, I went with Marion, and I am thanking the football gods right now for this decision.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

...he isn't that good. Since the halfway point of last season:11 games152 carries475 yards3.13 YPC

I've got a bone to pick with Switz. I said this last week and he went off about how he'll still be a top 5 RB. He'll have some decent games but top 5.......holy cow, no way.

 

[mr. furley]

LET'S ALL OVER-REACT!

 

[switz]

...he isn't that good. Since the halfway point of last season:11 games152 carries475 yards3.13 YPC

I've got a bone to pick with Switz. I said this last week and he went off about how he'll still be a top 5 RB. He'll have some decent games but top 5.......holy cow, no way.

Season is only two weeks in... And we expected Addai to start slow. No one could run behind that OL right now. I thought they looked like they started to improve last week, but I was obviously wrong about that.However, also keep in mind that the Colts played two tough rush defenses to open the season. Give him until after the BYE.

 

[trader jake]

LET'S ALL OVER-REACT!

Many were in agreement that Addai would be a great buy low after week 4 (can't find the thread where this was pointed out). The early season rushing matchups, Peyton & Marvin working back into form, and waiting for Jeff Saturday to get back in the line-up were all noted as reasons. Owners that bail on him now will regret taking lower value later on in the fantasy season.

 

[Banger]

two very tough run opponents to start. It happens.

 

[jwb]

But EBF is pointing out his stats from mid-last season.

Happen to agree - just not that special.

 

[BigRed]

Addai is a good-not-great back who would not do very well on most "lesser" teams. On the plus side he is versatile and doesn't really stink at anything. But he's not all that great at anything either and is far from a guy who can carry the load like Peterson or whoever. This is hardly news for anyone w/a clue who is really familiar w/the situation.

 

[Banger]

But EBF is pointing out his stats from mid-last season.Happen to agree - just not that special.

and he was injured then. I'm not an Addai supporter and don't think he's a special talent but he'll still be top 10 at the end of the year...

 

[travdogg]

There aren't 5 backs I'd rather have. He's starting slow, with a banged up o-line and a QB who isn't quite himself yet against 2 top defenses. Its silly to pretend Indy isn't going to be much better than they are playing right now. Addai's numbers will rise with them.

 

[packersfan]

There aren't 5 backs I'd rather have.

Really? I'm not giving up on him but I'd take all of these RBs ahead of Addai from a talent perspective:LTPetersonWestbrookJacksonGoreBarberPortisLynchI think all of those RBs are more talented than Addai. And then there are a number of RBs who I think are comparable in terms of talent (and some could be argued as being more talented). I'd list them as:BushGrantJones-DrewMcGaheeChris JohnsonI like Addai a lot, but he is not an exceptionally talented RB. Put Gore in the Niners' offense, for example, and he would likely put up some sick numbers because he is a much more talented RB. Addai's primary value has come from the fact he's the top dog in what has been an explosive offense. But he's looked real bad in the first two games and the Colts look like a shell of their former selves. If they don't right the ship quickly, Addai will prove to be one of this year's biggest busts.At least he got his owners a TD today so he actually was OK from a fantasy perspective. He got more points than I was expecting out of him against a great run defense.

 

[IndyHavoc]

I noticed something that is really hurting him right now. The elimination of the stretch right/left is just killing him. Taking the toss puts him 2 yards deeper as he's running the angle and he just is NOT fast enough and the line is just not good enough at this point for this to be viable. Until Peyton can get the knee up to speed and be able to move on that stretch, Addai will absolutely be struggling against tough run D's. He's got 1 more then the bye. After the bye I only see TEN as a very serious "sit" option for Addai, but his #'s should be outstanding after the bye.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Addai played the Vikings today. I'll cut him some slack because that is one tough Run D. And he did score a TD. But I also agree that Addai is nothing special compared to more talented RB's like LT or AD. He's only going to be a first round value if Manning can get him more involved in the passing game.

 

[travdogg]

There aren't 5 backs I'd rather have.

Really? I'm not giving up on him but I'd take all of these RBs ahead of Addai from a talent perspective:LTPetersonWestbrookJacksonGoreBarberPortisLynch

I meant fantasy wise. Actual talent doesn't really matter much to me unless these guys and Addai switch places, which they won't. I would take the top-3 guys or your list over Addai, and maybe Barber in a redraft or Lynch in a dynasty, but that's it.

 

[packersfan]

There aren't 5 backs I'd rather have.

Really? I'm not giving up on him but I'd take all of these RBs ahead of Addai from a talent perspective:LTPetersonWestbrookJacksonGoreBarberPortisLynch

I meant fantasy wise. Actual talent doesn't really matter much to me unless these guys and Addai switch places, which they won't. I would take the top-3 guys or your list over Addai, and maybe Barber in a redraft or Lynch in a dynasty, but that's it.

Gotcha. Well I had the fourth pick in my draft (PPR league) and took him over Gore and Barber. As I sit here today, I'm wishing I had that pick back. I liked Gore a lot but just couldn't pull the trigger because I thought Addai was the "safe" choice. Turns out Barber might have been the safe pick; Gore the upside pick and Addai the I Sure As Hell Hope He Turns Things Around pick.

 

[PSULions]

I am concerned as an Addai owner, however, he went against two very good Ds in the Bears and the Vikings, plus Peyton is getting into playing shape so I think he will be fine, but a very slow start for sure.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I've always felt that he was more of a product than a skill... buts hes not chop liver either. Don't panic... but attempt to get anther top 5 RB if u can... his SOS is terrible

 

[Marc Levin]

There aren't 5 backs I'd rather have.

Really? I'm not giving up on him but I'd take all of these RBs ahead of Addai from a talent perspective:LTPetersonWestbrookJacksonGoreBarberPortisLynch

I meant fantasy wise.

AD, LT, Westbrook, Barber III, PortisThat's five I would happily take over Addai from a fantasy standpoint.And Parker, Lynch, Gore, SJax, and McGahee all look like they could have a better fantasy year from this point forward simply because they are lynchpins of their team's offense while Addai is a piece of the puzzle that the teamn goes away from for long stretches of the game.

 

[stbugs]

Ummm, why are you guys all giving Addai a pass against the Bears? In 2007, they gave up the 9th most rushing yards in the NFL at 123+ yards per game. Stewart of Carolina tore them up in the second half today (Williams had all but 1 carry in the 1st half and looked meh) for 76 yards and 2 TDs on 13 carries (5.8 ypc). Even with Williams meh performance, they had 25-108-2TDs for the game.

I hate to say it but I don't think you can give him a pass for 1.3 ypc against Minny (they are good, but they aren't holding the rest of the NFL to 1.3 ypc this year) or 44 yards against the Bears who everyone in this thread seems to forget were bad against the rush last year and weren't good against Carolina either.

 

[PSULions]

Ummm, why are you guys all giving Addai a pass against the Bears? In 2007, they gave up the 9th most rushing yards in the NFL at 123+ yards per game. Stewart of Carolina tore them up in the second half today (Williams had all but 1 carry in the 1st half and looked meh) for 76 yards and 2 TDs on 13 carries (5.8 ypc). Even with Williams meh performance, they had 25-108-2TDs for the game.I hate to say it but I don't think you can give him a pass for 1.3 ypc against Minny (they are good, but they aren't holding the rest of the NFL to 1.3 ypc this year) or 44 yards against the Bears who everyone in this thread seems to forget were bad against the rush last year and weren't good against Carolina either.

The Colts stopped trying to run the ball against the Bears and got too far behind and had to go to the pass to try and make a dent in the Bears lead last week.The Panthers were very committed to running the ball and had nearly 30 carries, today and I think the heat and the fact that Stewart was fresh helped him gash them a little in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

 

[Otis]

Always felt he's been overrated in fantasy circles.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Ive been arguing he was a must trade this offseason, that was the time to trade him in dynasty leagues. Probably too late now, unless you are in a league with Switz.

 

[switz]

But EBF is pointing out his stats from mid-last season.

When the OL was decimated.Go back to the first 4 games of last season... that's the last time the line was healthy.Then watch a game this season, Addai was hit in the backfield on every single carry - even the TD. Nobody is gong to do well behind this OL... not LT, not ADP, nobody.

 

[RandyDB]

But EBF is pointing out his stats from mid-last season.

When the OL was decimated.Go back to the first 4 games of last season... that's the last time the line was healthy.Then watch a game this season, Addai was hit in the backfield on every single carry - even the TD. Nobody is gong to do well behind this OL... not LT, not ADP, nobody.

I guess I usually take the OL into consideration when I predict someone will be a top 5 RB

 

[Manasseh]

I don't think his remaining schedule is that soft. Even if you don't like him, who could I realistically expect to get in return?

 

[Jerry Lawler]

I think most of us would agree that Addai is among the top 20 most talented RB's. Does that mean he isn't that good?

The way I see it, Addai's production is currently suffering as a result of a few problems, some of them are more temporary than others:

1) The offensive line - The interior linemen have learned to get by on pass protection, but they're not moving anyone out of the way. The Colts have rarely tried to run inside over the first 2 games, and I can't blame them.

2) Manning's knee - someone already noted that the Colts can't run the stretch play that has been such an important part of their offense, meaning that not only has the inside running game been compromised, but the outside running game has also taken a big hit.

3) Colts run defense - it looks like 2006 all over again up front, especially with the release of DT Ed Johnson. I think teams will be able to run pretty consistently on the Colts to shorten the game and give less possessions to the Colts offense. This limitation will

4) Tough schedule - Unfortunately, this will continue throughout the year, with only a few soft defenses on the schedule.

As the Colts' offense gets healthier, Addai's numbers should improve. imo, if Addai plays 16 games, I would be shocked if he didn't finish among the top 15 RB's, but you'll be disappointed if you expect him to perform like a top 5 RB this season.

 

[djcolts]

How many teams can do ANYTHING on offense when 4 OL starters are out and their top TE? That is what happened to the Colts in the 2nd half yesterday.

 

[JuniorNB]

Addai will have a few games that will reward his owners. That's bound to happen when he's the feature back in an explosive offense.

I'd be willing to bet that he isn't the starter in Indy next year, though. I'm pretty sure the management will figure out that they need a special back in that offense. The kind of back who will be a threat against good defenses, as well. Addai isn't that back. He's serviceable and his end-of-year totals will be decent, but a true contender, at least one which relies so heavily on it's offensive output, has to have a back who can get it done against anybody. The playoffs are loaded with teams with good defenses.

 

[Portis 26]

Addai will have a few games that will reward his owners. That's bound to happen when he's the feature back in an explosive offense.I'd be willing to bet that he isn't the starter in Indy next year, though. I'm pretty sure the management will figure out that they need a special back in that offense. The kind of back who will be a threat against good defenses, as well. Addai isn't that back. He's serviceable and his end-of-year totals will be decent, but a true contender, at least one which relies so heavily on it's offensive output, has to have a back who can get it done against anybody. The playoffs are loaded with teams with good defenses.

There are so many things wrong with this posting I don't even know where to begin. Apart from anything else though, given the Colts spent a first round pick on Addai a couple of years ago and his production so far has been excellent, it would be completely out of character for Bill Polian to spend a bunch of $$$ or a high draft choice on another RB when they have other pressing needs.

 

[benm3218]

But EBF is pointing out his stats from mid-last season.

When the OL was decimated.Go back to the first 4 games of last season... that's the last time the line was healthy.Then watch a game this season, Addai was hit in the backfield on every single carry - even the TD. Nobody is gong to do well behind this OL... not LT, not ADP, nobody.

Last year Frank Gore played on a team where he was the entire offense!!!! HELLO?His O-line stunk and he was the entire offense. He did good. Why? Because of TALENT.Addia is not horrible, but his talent level is nowhere close to at least 10 RB's playing right now. Product of the system.EBF is right. You don't get a pass for having an injured O-line. Other backs with talent have performed in those scenarios.

 

[packersfan]

But EBF is pointing out his stats from mid-last season.

When the OL was decimated.Go back to the first 4 games of last season... that's the last time the line was healthy.Then watch a game this season, Addai was hit in the backfield on every single carry - even the TD. Nobody is gong to do well behind this OL... not LT, not ADP, nobody.

Last year Frank Gore played on a team where he was the entire offense!!!! HELLO?His O-line stunk and he was the entire offense. He did good. Why? Because of TALENT.

Yup. Even this year the 49ers lack talent but Gore is significantly outproducing Addai so far. Great RBs make the talent around them better. We've seen it countless times before. Addai is a good RB. I like him. But he is not an extremely gifted RB. I liked him because he was the starting RB on one of the league's most explosive offenses. Or at least it was before this season.Like I said, I haven't given up hope for Addai. I do think the Colts will improve and I think Addai will have plenty of good games. But the first two weeks have been terrible and I'm definitely second guessing my decision to take him over two RBs (Gore or Barber) who I believe are more talented and who thus far have been significantly more productive.

 

[JuniorNB]

Addai will have a few games that will reward his owners. That's bound to happen when he's the feature back in an explosive offense.I'd be willing to bet that he isn't the starter in Indy next year, though. I'm pretty sure the management will figure out that they need a special back in that offense. The kind of back who will be a threat against good defenses, as well. Addai isn't that back. He's serviceable and his end-of-year totals will be decent, but a true contender, at least one which relies so heavily on it's offensive output, has to have a back who can get it done against anybody. The playoffs are loaded with teams with good defenses.

There are so many things wrong with this posting I don't even know where to begin. Apart from anything else though, given the Colts spent a first round pick on Addai a couple of years ago and his production so far has been excellent, it would be completely out of character for Bill Polian to spend a bunch of $$$ or a high draft choice on another RB when they have other pressing needs.

I disagree. The Colts offense has been anemic this year and Addai's lack-of-production is a huge reason. While they may, in fact, have other pressing needs, Polian isn't so stubborn that he won't admit that he may have misjudged Addai's talent and move on. With Manning/Wayne and Co. posing the air threat, there are dozens and dozens of backs who could surpass Addai's output in that offense.

 

[diver77]

never liked him

a product of the system

 

[djcolts]

Addai will have a few games that will reward his owners. That's bound to happen when he's the feature back in an explosive offense.

I'd be willing to bet that he isn't the starter in Indy next year, though. I'm pretty sure the management will figure out that they need a special back in that offense. The kind of back who will be a threat against good defenses, as well. Addai isn't that back. He's serviceable and his end-of-year totals will be decent, but a true contender, at least one which relies so heavily on it's offensive output, has to have a back who can get it done against anybody. The playoffs are loaded with teams with good defenses.

There are so many things wrong with this posting I don't even know where to begin. Apart from anything else though, given the Colts spent a first round pick on Addai a couple of years ago and his production so far has been excellent, it would be completely out of character for Bill Polian to spend a bunch of $$$ or a high draft choice on another RB when they have other pressing needs.

I disagree. The Colts offense has been anemic this year and Addai's lack-of-production is a huge reason. While they may, in fact, have other pressing needs, Polian isn't so stubborn that he won't admit that he may have misjudged Addai's talent and move on. With Manning/Wayne and Co. posing the air threat, there are dozens and dozens of backs who could surpass Addai's output in that offense.

The OL is the main reason. Period. They are starting late-round rookies and former practice squad players right now. The highest round players that finished the game on the OL and TE combined is a former 4th rounder. Seriously - think about that.Here's what they finished the game with:

TE 1: Gijon Robinson - street FA - on practice squad last year - 1st year player

LT: Charlie Johnson - former 6th round pick

LG: Steve Justice - rookie 6th round pick

C: Jamey Richard - rookie 7th round pick

RG: Dan Federkeil - former practice squad player - undrafted

RT: Ryan Diem - the only starter on the line - former 4th round pick

TE 2: Tom Santi - rookie 6th round pick.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I've always believed he was a good back in a great situation, nothing more.

Too late to trade him now, though.

 

[packersfan]

Addai will have a few games that will reward his owners. That's bound to happen when he's the feature back in an explosive offense.

I'd be willing to bet that he isn't the starter in Indy next year, though. I'm pretty sure the management will figure out that they need a special back in that offense. The kind of back who will be a threat against good defenses, as well. Addai isn't that back. He's serviceable and his end-of-year totals will be decent, but a true contender, at least one which relies so heavily on it's offensive output, has to have a back who can get it done against anybody. The playoffs are loaded with teams with good defenses.

There are so many things wrong with this posting I don't even know where to begin. Apart from anything else though, given the Colts spent a first round pick on Addai a couple of years ago and his production so far has been excellent, it would be completely out of character for Bill Polian to spend a bunch of $$$ or a high draft choice on another RB when they have other pressing needs.

I disagree. The Colts offense has been anemic this year and Addai's lack-of-production is a huge reason. While they may, in fact, have other pressing needs, Polian isn't so stubborn that he won't admit that he may have misjudged Addai's talent and move on. With Manning/Wayne and Co. posing the air threat, there are dozens and dozens of backs who could surpass Addai's output in that offense.

The OL is the main reason. Period. They are starting late-round rookies and former practice squad players right now. The highest round players that finished the game on the OL and TE combined is a former 4th rounder. Seriously - think about that.

The Patriots won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago with late-round picks and castoffs on the offensive line.

 

[jurrassic]

I agree that Addai isn't really a "special" talent, but let's be serious here. The guy has a pretty decent skill set for the position. The Colts are without Saturday, Manning sat all pre-season and Addai played two pretty good defenses in the Bears and Vikings. He isn't the best back in the league, but he is better than he has been.

 

[djcolts]

Addai will have a few games that will reward his owners. That's bound to happen when he's the feature back in an explosive offense.

I'd be willing to bet that he isn't the starter in Indy next year, though. I'm pretty sure the management will figure out that they need a special back in that offense. The kind of back who will be a threat against good defenses, as well. Addai isn't that back. He's serviceable and his end-of-year totals will be decent, but a true contender, at least one which relies so heavily on it's offensive output, has to have a back who can get it done against anybody. The playoffs are loaded with teams with good defenses.

There are so many things wrong with this posting I don't even know where to begin. Apart from anything else though, given the Colts spent a first round pick on Addai a couple of years ago and his production so far has been excellent, it would be completely out of character for Bill Polian to spend a bunch of $$$ or a high draft choice on another RB when they have other pressing needs.

I disagree. The Colts offense has been anemic this year and Addai's lack-of-production is a huge reason. While they may, in fact, have other pressing needs, Polian isn't so stubborn that he won't admit that he may have misjudged Addai's talent and move on. With Manning/Wayne and Co. posing the air threat, there are dozens and dozens of backs who could surpass Addai's output in that offense.

The OL is the main reason. Period. They are starting late-round rookies and former practice squad players right now. The highest round players that finished the game on the OL and TE combined is a former 4th rounder. Seriously - think about that.

The Patriots won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago with late-round picks and castoffs on the offensive line.

Were they ALL late round picks? How many rookies and 1st year players?

 

[stbugs]

Ummm, why are you guys all giving Addai a pass against the Bears? In 2007, they gave up the 9th most rushing yards in the NFL at 123+ yards per game. Stewart of Carolina tore them up in the second half today (Williams had all but 1 carry in the 1st half and looked meh) for 76 yards and 2 TDs on 13 carries (5.8 ypc). Even with Williams meh performance, they had 25-108-2TDs for the game.I hate to say it but I don't think you can give him a pass for 1.3 ypc against Minny (they are good, but they aren't holding the rest of the NFL to 1.3 ypc this year) or 44 yards against the Bears who everyone in this thread seems to forget were bad against the rush last year and weren't good against Carolina either.

The Colts stopped trying to run the ball against the Bears and got too far behind and had to go to the pass to try and make a dent in the Bears lead last week.The Panthers were very committed to running the ball and had nearly 30 carries, today and I think the heat and the fact that Stewart was fresh helped him gash them a little in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

That isn't what I was saying. Addai was ineffective against the Bears. It wasn't the overall ouptut, it was that Stewart gained more than 2 ypc more than Addai against the same defense. Put it this way, Addai was as effective as DeAngelo and Stewart looked much better than DeAngelo. It wasn't that Stewart was fresh, he just looked better than DeAngelo and ran harder. DeAngelo only had 10 carries in the first half, I don't think the Bears were worn out by him.I wanted to point out that the vaunted Bears running defense hasn't been around since 2006 and that people above were saying to give Addai a break because he was up against 2 great run defenses and in 2007 annd against Carolina, the Bears were below average to bad against the run.

 

[packersfan]

Ummm, why are you guys all giving Addai a pass against the Bears? In 2007, they gave up the 9th most rushing yards in the NFL at 123+ yards per game. Stewart of Carolina tore them up in the second half today (Williams had all but 1 carry in the 1st half and looked meh) for 76 yards and 2 TDs on 13 carries (5.8 ypc). Even with Williams meh performance, they had 25-108-2TDs for the game.I hate to say it but I don't think you can give him a pass for 1.3 ypc against Minny (they are good, but they aren't holding the rest of the NFL to 1.3 ypc this year) or 44 yards against the Bears who everyone in this thread seems to forget were bad against the rush last year and weren't good against Carolina either.

The Colts stopped trying to run the ball against the Bears and got too far behind and had to go to the pass to try and make a dent in the Bears lead last week.The Panthers were very committed to running the ball and had nearly 30 carries, today and I think the heat and the fact that Stewart was fresh helped him gash them a little in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

That isn't what I was saying. Addai was ineffective against the Bears. It wasn't the overall ouptut, it was that Stewart gained more than 2 ypc more than Addai against the same defense. Put it this way, Addai was as effective as DeAngelo and Stewart looked much better than DeAngelo. It wasn't that Stewart was fresh, he just looked better than DeAngelo and ran harder. DeAngelo only had 10 carries in the first half, I don't think the Bears were worn out by him.I wanted to point out that the vaunted Bears running defense hasn't been around since 2006 and that people above were saying to give Addai a break because he was up against 2 great run defenses and in 2007 annd against Carolina, the Bears were below average to bad against the run.

This is what discouraged me last week. The Bears had one of the worst run defenses in the league last season and when they were great Addai tore them up. But he looked bad last week. He ran soft and looked bad. As you pointed out, Stewart ran hard and looked good against the same defense one week later. Is Addai being hurt by the injuries up front? I don't know anyone who would argue he isn't. But I think the point some people are making is Addai isn't good enough to make his offensive line better. He may be totally dependent on having everything properly in place in order to shine. That isn't the case with the great RBs, who can shine even if the situation around them is less than ideal.

 

[sholditch]

...he isn't that good. Since the halfway point of last season:11 games152 carries475 yards3.13 YPC

I've got a bone to pick with Switz. I said this last week and he went off about how he'll still be a top 5 RB. He'll have some decent games but top 5.......holy cow, no way.

Season is only two weeks in... And we expected Addai to start slow. No one could run behind that OL right now. I thought they looked like they started to improve last week, but I was obviously wrong about that.However, also keep in mind that the Colts played two tough rush defenses to open the season. Give him until after the BYE.

umm, Forte can run behind the Bears oline. Losing one guy shouldn't cause that big a dropoff.

 

[North]

...he isn't that good. Since the halfway point of last season:11 games152 carries475 yards3.13 YPC

I've got a bone to pick with Switz. I said this last week and he went off about how he'll still be a top 5 RB. He'll have some decent games but top 5.......holy cow, no way.

Season is only two weeks in... And we expected Addai to start slow. No one could run behind that OL right now. I thought they looked like they started to improve last week, but I was obviously wrong about that.However, also keep in mind that the Colts played two tough rush defenses to open the season. Give him until after the BYE.

umm, Forte can run behind the Bears oline. Losing one guy shouldn't cause that big a dropoff.

Back off from the ledge my friends, things will get better. I think it's a combination of 3 things (Saturday being gone, Manning being rusty and playing tough D's). When the offense gets back in sync after a couple more weeks things will improve. I'm happy to be 2nd in my league after 2 weeks with Addai and McGahee, things will get better.Addai may not end the year with top 5 numbers but he will have double digit TD's and 1200 yds.