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Josh Freeman's season (1 Viewer)

Fans always raise their young players up to stardom too quickly...but as a Bucs fan I honestly can't think of a player in the NFL I'd take over him right now.

 
Hey Prem,

Think about this...assume Luck is taken by Carolina and ends up being pretty good.

NFC South

Atlanta- Matt Ryan...still needs to prove it in the playoffs, they might be a year or two early

NewOrl- Drew Brees...already proved it

TB Bucs-Josh Freeman...has shown so much in 2 seasons

Carolina-Andrew Luck...will be thrown into the fire quickly

All 4 teams could have legitimate studs at QB. I'm with you that Freeman can lead a team but 1st the Bucs must go back and make the orange n white creamsicles a mainstay for the uniforms. Those were the sweetest uniforms I have seen since the Chargers pulled out the powder blue.

I wish they had made the playoffs just so the kid could have tasted what it was about. They still have a 3rd place schedule next season and I'm sure the coach will work on improving the defense more. They need to get better in the front 7 and some more work on their OL but they are making large strides.

 
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He was under the radar all year. He's good. Very good. And still a likely target for a late round QB next season because people don't know who he is.
Brady, Ben, Rodgers, there are lots of QBs better right now than Freeman. Josh is different and has some unique qualities but he is not a top5 QB at this moment. He has some potential to get a lot better which is good, but he's not there quite yet.
 
Wish The Lions would have drafted Freeman instead on China Doll Stafford. The guy looks indestructable.
China Doll Stafford looks pretty darn good when healthy. Phil Simms started out on a similar path and shook off the injury bug to have a pretty good career. Don't give up on Stafford just yet.
 
I didn't think Matt Ryan would be a good NFL QB...or Sam Bradford...or Josh Freeman. My QB forecasting ability has clearly gone to #### recently.

 
He was under the radar all year. He's good. Very good. And still a likely target for a late round QB next season because people don't know who he is.
Brady, Ben, Rodgers, there are lots of QBs better right now than Freeman. Josh is different and has some unique qualities but he is not a top5 QB at this moment. He has some potential to get a lot better which is good, but he's not there quite yet.
Well sure, but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the guy will be under valued. And if you're like me and wait on QBs in the fantasy drafts, you could do much worse than Freeman. Heck, I just went and looked it up and the guy finished tied for 8th in my standard 12 team league. 15.8 points per game. Tied with Schaub, ahead of Ryan.
 
Fans always raise their young players up to stardom too quickly...but as a Bucs fan I honestly can't think of a player in the NFL I'd take over him right now.
Now wait a second...
:mellow: Has to be a young QB. Ryan is the obvious choice I guess...but he is 3 years older. I don't see that Sanchez or Bradford have shown better potential.
 
Fans always raise their young players up to stardom too quickly...but as a Bucs fan I honestly can't think of a player in the NFL I'd take over him right now.
Now wait a second...
:rant: Has to be a young QB. Ryan is the obvious choice I guess...but he is 3 years older. I don't see that Sanchez or Bradford have shown better potential.
Philip Rivers? Maybe if you re-stated it to say: there's not another young QB in the league I'd prefer more if I'm building a franchise, the statement wouldn't seem so radical.

 
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/content...ise-quarterback

He's 22-years-old. :mellow:

You have to think this guy has a Super Bowl or two in his future.
Others in this club:David Garrard 18/3

Chad Pennington 22/6

Brian Griese 19/4

Jim Harbaugh 17/5

Steve Deberg 23/4

Steve Bartkowski 22/5

I don't think you can draw conclusions from this one stat, any more than you can conclude that Freeman will be a bum because he threw 0 TDs and 8 INTs in two games last December (and had 3 TDs and 13 INTs in his last five games of 2009).

 
Fans always raise their young players up to stardom too quickly...but as a Bucs fan I honestly can't think of a player in the NFL I'd take over him right now.
Now wait a second...
:mellow: Has to be a young QB. Ryan is the obvious choice I guess...but he is 3 years older. I don't see that Sanchez or Bradford have shown better potential.
Philip Rivers? Maybe if you re-stated it to say: there's not another young QB in the league I'd prefer more if I'm building a franchise, the statement wouldn't seem so radical.
Things change quickly in the NFL...but with the holes and youth, it seems a realistic forecast for the Bucs sweet spot is 3 years down the road. A 25 year old QB will stretch that spot longer than a 32 year old QB, and could be in a better position to win then.After looking it up, I guess Rodgers could be my first choice also...as he's only 5 years older now than Freeman, and has shown the most of the guys that age or younger. He'd only be 30.

 
I consider my dad an "average" NFL fan - meaning he'll turn the tv on most sundays to whatever the local fox/cbs games are, and watches at least some of the SNF/MNF games - I would bet money that he doesn't know who Josh Freeman is right now if you mentioned it in casual conversation without telling him he is an NFL team's QB.

 
I consider my dad an "average" NFL fan - meaning he'll turn the tv on most sundays to whatever the local fox/cbs games are, and watches at least some of the SNF/MNF games - I would bet money that he doesn't know who Josh Freeman is right now if you mentioned it in casual conversation without telling him he is an NFL team's QB.
Do you think most fantasy players know who he is?
 
Two bits of crazy in here:

1) Not trading Freeman for any other player. C'mon...

2) The creamsicle uniforms being sweet? No way.

 
I consider my dad an "average" NFL fan - meaning he'll turn the tv on most sundays to whatever the local fox/cbs games are, and watches at least some of the SNF/MNF games - I would bet money that he doesn't know who Josh Freeman is right now if you mentioned it in casual conversation without telling him he is an NFL team's QB.
Do you think most fantasy players know who he is?
most fantasy players do, but on name value alone - most probably don't care. I would consider the owners in my local league to be "normal" and outside of the owner that has Freeman - I doubt the others know anything about Freeman or his success in 2010 (FF or real NFL).
 
Wish The Lions would have drafted Freeman instead on China Doll Stafford. The guy looks indestructable.
Well, it's easy to say that 2 years in and seeing how they have both ended up. Stafford has guts and I think can bea top QB if he can stay upright. I don't have much faith that Freeman would have done much better or stayed muchhealthier with that O-line.But I have to hand it to Freeman. Heck, I have to hand it to Raheem Morris and that young Bucs team. They havedone a fantastic job in turning that club around in just one year. Kudos!
 
Two bits of crazy in here:1) Not trading Freeman for any other player. C'mon...2) The creamsicle uniforms being sweet? No way.
1) I get his point in regards to age. Manning and Brady are obviously better players but are 9-10 years older. Rodgers is older, etc. I would take Free over Bradford, Stafford and Sanchez, which is gump's point. 2) The creamsicles are unbelievably awesome. Love em.
 
I am on record of not thinking Freeman would amount to anything in the NFL.

I am now on the record of being wrong. the kid has game and a solid future.

 
The amazing thing was that he didn't rush for any TDs this year.

He could easily add in 3-4 rushing TDs in a season to his fantasy total.

I started him all year in a 2 QB league because of his potential for rushing scores.

 
DawgPoundNJ said:
Wish The Lions would have drafted Freeman instead on China Doll Stafford. The guy looks indestructable.
China Doll Stafford looks pretty darn good when healthy. Phil Simms started out on a similar path and shook off the injury bug to have a pretty good career. Don't give up on Stafford just yet.
I agree but if the Lions had their pick of the two right now I am pretty sure they would take Freeman over Stafford. Plus he comes at about half the price.
 
fdctrumpet said:
urbanhack said:
fdctrumpet said:
I consider my dad an "average" NFL fan - meaning he'll turn the tv on most sundays to whatever the local fox/cbs games are, and watches at least some of the SNF/MNF games - I would bet money that he doesn't know who Josh Freeman is right now if you mentioned it in casual conversation without telling him he is an NFL team's QB.
Do you think most fantasy players know who he is?
most fantasy players do, but on name value alone - most probably don't care. I would consider the owners in my local league to be "normal" and outside of the owner that has Freeman - I doubt the others know anything about Freeman or his success in 2010 (FF or real NFL).
Your normal owners sound like fish. However the magazine they buy on the racks next april before your local draft will likely have Freeman as a top 10 QB so the secret will be out, unless grabbing him 8th behind (Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Manning, Vick, Brady & Big Ben) is a bargain.
 
Premier said:
Dr. Awesome said:
Two bits of crazy in here:

1) Not trading Freeman for any other player. C'mon...

2) The creamsicle uniforms being sweet? No way.
1) I get his point in regards to age. Manning and Brady are obviously better players but are 9-10 years older. Rodgers is older, etc. I would take Free over Bradford, Stafford and Sanchez, which is gump's point. 2) The creamsicles are unbelievably awesome. Love em.
:thumbup:
 
sparkky said:
I am on record of not thinking Freeman would amount to anything in the NFL. I am now on the record of being wrong. the kid has game and a solid future.
I think he did that to a lot of people, I'm just happy to have turned my opinion earlier this year. He went from a guy I thought would be worse than VY to a guy I want on my team and traded for as part of my rebuild.
 
DawgPoundNJ said:
Wish The Lions would have drafted Freeman instead on China Doll Stafford. The guy looks indestructable.
China Doll Stafford looks pretty darn good when healthy. Phil Simms started out on a similar path and shook off the injury bug to have a pretty good career. Don't give up on Stafford just yet.
I agree but if the Lions had their pick of the two right now I am pretty sure they would take Freeman over Stafford. Plus he comes at about half the price.
Not if they took him first overall.
 
I didn't think Matt Ryan would be a good NFL QB...or Sam Bradford...or Josh Freeman. My QB forecasting ability has clearly gone to #### recently.
I thought all three would be good qb's. Of course I also thought Alex Smith would be okay while Rodgers would suck. :confused:
 
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/content...ise-quarterback

He's 22-years-old. :rolleyes:

You have to think this guy has a Super Bowl or two in his future.
Others in this club:David Garrard 18/3

Chad Pennington 22/6

Brian Griese 19/4

Jim Harbaugh 17/5

Steve Deberg 23/4

Steve Bartkowski 22/5

I don't think you can draw conclusions from this one stat, any more than you can conclude that Freeman will be a bum because he threw 0 TDs and 8 INTs in two games last December (and had 3 TDs and 13 INTs in his last five games of 2009).
Brady 36/4
 
I guess I'll just make this my official Josh Freeman :confused: thread.

http://www.businessinsider.com/josh-freema...1#ixzz1A7RJCswF

Freeman, who was only 22 this season, finished with a QB rating of 95.9. In the Super Bowl era, only two other quarterbacks had a QB rating of at least 90.0 under the age of 23 (minimum eight starts). You might have heard of them: Dan Marino and Ben Roethlisberger.

Freeman also threw 25 touchdowns, one short of the team record. Only three quarterbacks under the age of 23 in the Super Bowl era have even thrown 20 touchdowns in a season. Again, a who's who of successful QBs, that includes Peyton Manning, Drew Bledsoe, and Marino.
 

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