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Julio Jones is Terrell Owens 2.0 with none of the diva.

That's it in a nutshell.

Most physical WR to enter the draft in a long, long time. Just an absolute beast at run-blocking.

Routinely took 2-3 SEC defenders to bring him down. A punishing receiver that is a true physical speciman.

Julio was on a running offense for 3 years and never complained when he blocked for 70% of the game in 2009. His blocking was a huge reason for Ingram's success.

He had major issues with his hands in 2009, and just when you thought that would continue into 2010 (he dropped a few passes early in the year), the dropsies completely vanished. He became an unstoppable dominant receiver in the 2nd half of 2010.

When matched up with Patrick Peterson, he notched 10 catches and easily won the matchup, although Peterson played great defense on him.

His draft selection will probably be based on his 40 time. He is an unbelievably hard worker and I expect him to time very well. If he runs a 4.4, he'll be a top 5-10 pick easily. If he runs a 4.55, then I suspect he will drop into the middle of the 1st, though I don't expect him to run that.

Julio has all the upside in the world. Runs great routes, is fast, is far more physical than Green, and is an incredible blocker.

It's Terrell Owens 2.0 and he's one of those rare prospects that, in my opinion, have less than a 5 percent chance of being a bust. I just don't see how he fails.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

meh

 

[eraclansing]

I just watched a youtube of Julio's 2009 season highlights and it reminded me how good he can be. The way he runs w/ power after the catch is very similar to Owens and Brandon Marshall.

I'm on the bandwagon especially on a WR-starving team where he could immediately come in and be the man.

 

[vandyt]

Terrell Owens 2.0? More like Reggie Williams 2.0.

 

[shader]

I just watched a youtube of Julio's 2009 season highlights and it reminded me how good he can be. The way he runs w/ power after the catch is very similar to Owens and Brandon Marshall. I'm on the bandwagon especially on a WR-starving team where he could immediately come in and be the man.

I think Brandon Marshall ran a 4.56 at the combine, and I think I read he ran a 4.7 at his pro day!Julio is definetely a physcial force of nature like Marshall, but I suspect he'll be more of a deep threat too. I think he'll run a 4.45-4.5. We'll see.

 

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I just watched a youtube of Julio's 2009 season highlights and it reminded me how good he can be. The way he runs w/ power after the catch is very similar to Owens and Brandon Marshall. I'm on the bandwagon especially on a WR-starving team where he could immediately come in and be the man.

Watch the Tennessee, LSU and Auburn highlights from this year.

 

[domvin]

Marquis maze is pretty solid too

 

[draino]

Julio Jones is Terrell Owens 2.0 with none of the diva.That's it in a nutshell.Most physical WR to enter the draft in a long, long time. Just an absolute beast at run-blocking.Routinely took 2-3 SEC defenders to bring him down. A punishing receiver that is a true physical speciman.Julio was on a running offense for 3 years and never complained when he blocked for 70% of the game in 2009. His blocking was a huge reason for Ingram's success.He had major issues with his hands in 2009, and just when you thought that would continue into 2010 (he dropped a few passes early in the year), the dropsies completely vanished. He became an unstoppable dominant receiver in the 2nd half of 2010.When matched up with Patrick Peterson, he notched 10 catches and easily won the matchup, although Peterson played great defense on him.His draft selection will probably be based on his 40 time. He is an unbelievably hard worker and I expect him to time very well. If he runs a 4.4, he'll be a top 5-10 pick easily. If he runs a 4.55, then I suspect he will drop into the middle of the 1st, though I don't expect him to run that.Julio has all the upside in the world. Runs great routes, is fast, is far more physical than Green, and is an incredible blocker.It's Terrell Owens 2.0 and he's one of those rare prospects that, in my opinion, have less than a 5 percent chance of being a bust. I just don't see how he fails.

He won the matchup? did you watch the game 10 catches for 89 yards. He definitely didn't do anything special ......Peterson owned him the year before when Julio basically couldn't catch a cold. Julio's only play was when Peterson was out of the game. Julio has to improve his hands and route running before he is considered an elite receiver but he definitely has the size and speed to become an elite receiver. He just has to work on his game.

 

[Barry Foster]

Terrell Owens 2.0? More like Reggie Williams 2.0.

I'd say somewhere in between..... I hate TO, but there aren't many WRs as talented as him. There's a lot of guys more talented than Reggie Williams though...

 

[ClownDogs]

Julio Jones is Terrell Owens 2.0 with none of the diva.That's it in a nutshell.Most physical WR to enter the draft in a long, long time. Just an absolute beast at run-blocking.Routinely took 2-3 SEC defenders to bring him down. A punishing receiver that is a true physical speciman.Julio was on a running offense for 3 years and never complained when he blocked for 70% of the game in 2009. His blocking was a huge reason for Ingram's success.He had major issues with his hands in 2009, and just when you thought that would continue into 2010 (he dropped a few passes early in the year), the dropsies completely vanished. He became an unstoppable dominant receiver in the 2nd half of 2010.When matched up with Patrick Peterson, he notched 10 catches and easily won the matchup, although Peterson played great defense on him.His draft selection will probably be based on his 40 time. He is an unbelievably hard worker and I expect him to time very well. If he runs a 4.4, he'll be a top 5-10 pick easily. If he runs a 4.55, then I suspect he will drop into the middle of the 1st, though I don't expect him to run that.Julio has all the upside in the world. Runs great routes, is fast, is far more physical than Green, and is an incredible blocker.It's Terrell Owens 2.0 and he's one of those rare prospects that, in my opinion, have less than a 5 percent chance of being a bust. I just don't see how he fails.

He won the matchup? did you watch the game 10 catches for 89 yards. He definitely didn't do anything special ......Peterson owned him the year before when Julio basically couldn't catch a cold. Julio's only play was when Peterson was out of the game. Julio has to improve his hands and route running before he is considered an elite receiver but he definitely has the size and speed to become an elite receiver. He just has to work on his game.

Even if he lost the matchup vs. Peterson, to me, that doenst' mean he isn't top level talent. Hell, THE BEST can't even get by Revis, it happens to them all.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Be interesting if he goes to the Rams as many project. Dont think the gap between he and Green is nearly as large as some are making it out to be. Green is pretty frail.

 

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Julio Jones is Terrell Owens 2.0 with none of the diva.That's it in a nutshell.Most physical WR to enter the draft in a long, long time. Just an absolute beast at run-blocking.Routinely took 2-3 SEC defenders to bring him down. A punishing receiver that is a true physical speciman.Julio was on a running offense for 3 years and never complained when he blocked for 70% of the game in 2009. His blocking was a huge reason for Ingram's success.He had major issues with his hands in 2009, and just when you thought that would continue into 2010 (he dropped a few passes early in the year), the dropsies completely vanished. He became an unstoppable dominant receiver in the 2nd half of 2010.When matched up with Patrick Peterson, he notched 10 catches and easily won the matchup, although Peterson played great defense on him.His draft selection will probably be based on his 40 time. He is an unbelievably hard worker and I expect him to time very well. If he runs a 4.4, he'll be a top 5-10 pick easily. If he runs a 4.55, then I suspect he will drop into the middle of the 1st, though I don't expect him to run that.Julio has all the upside in the world. Runs great routes, is fast, is far more physical than Green, and is an incredible blocker.It's Terrell Owens 2.0 and he's one of those rare prospects that, in my opinion, have less than a 5 percent chance of being a bust. I just don't see how he fails.

He won the matchup? did you watch the game 10 catches for 89 yards. He definitely didn't do anything special ......Peterson owned him the year before when Julio basically couldn't catch a cold. Julio's only play was when Peterson was out of the game. Julio has to improve his hands and route running before he is considered an elite receiver but he definitely has the size and speed to become an elite receiver. He just has to work on his game.

He caught ten passes on him, that's not bad. Peterson is being talked about as a top 5 CB, so I'd say 10 receptions is pretty good.Yes, the year before Julio struggled. But I was actually at that game in 2009, and McElroy missed Julio a number of times in the first half, including once where he made a move and was WIDE open in the endzone.In fact, McElroy's performance up to and during the first half of that LSU game in 2009 was getting so bad, that almost all Bama insiders will say that at halftime of that game, the heat was put on McElroy. If he had a bad second half, he was going to get benched for a freshman.That being said, Julio does have work to do. But his physical skills are elite, and much of his issues stem from the fact that Bama was a running team in 08 and 09.

 

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Be interesting if he goes to the Rams as many project. Dont think the gap between he and Green is nearly as large as some are making it out to be. Green is pretty frail.

If Julio went to the Rams, I'd take him ahead of Green in any league out there.AJ Green with a gimpy armed Palmer or Fitzpatrick, or Julio with a young stud?? Are you serious??Julio all day.

 

[eraclansing]

Be interesting if he goes to the Rams as many project. Dont think the gap between he and Green is nearly as large as some are making it out to be. Green is pretty frail.

If Julio went to the Rams, I'd take him ahead of Green in any league out there.AJ Green with a gimpy armed Palmer or Fitzpatrick, or Julio with a young stud?? Are you serious??Julio all day.

Let's face it, you're taking Julio before Aj Green under any cirucumstances.

 

[Vision6]

Got me a first class seat

 

[I was in the pool]

I agree that they are close enough that the landing spot will matter. AJ Green has the build that worries me a little bit. He is ahead of Jones in terms of total WR skills, but Jones probably has more total upside and inate "talent"

 

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Be interesting if he goes to the Rams as many project. Dont think the gap between he and Green is nearly as large as some are making it out to be. Green is pretty frail.

If Julio went to the Rams, I'd take him ahead of Green in any league out there.AJ Green with a gimpy armed Palmer or Fitzpatrick, or Julio with a young stud?? Are you serious??Julio all day.

Let's face it, you're taking Julio before Aj Green under any cirucumstances.

No, if it was flipped, and Green went to the Rams and Julio went to Buffalo, I'd be all over Green.

 

[Concept Coop]

He won the matchup? did you watch the game 10 catches for 89 yards. He definitely didn't do anything special ......Peterson owned him the year before when Julio basically couldn't catch a cold. Julio's only play was when Peterson was out of the game. Julio has to improve his hands and route running before he is considered an elite receiver but he definitely has the size and speed to become an elite receiver. He just has to work on his game.

What? Jones owned Peterson. And yes, I watched the entire game.

 

[Concept Coop]

Even if he lost the matchup vs. Peterson, to me, that doenst' mean he isn't top level talent. Hell, THE BEST can't even get by Revis, it happens to them all.

He didn't lose anything. 10 catches, 89 yards, and a touchdown against one of the top 2 cbs in the nation.

 

[ClownDogs]

Even if he lost the matchup vs. Peterson, to me, that doenst' mean he isn't top level talent. Hell, THE BEST can't even get by Revis, it happens to them all.

He didn't lose anything. 10 catches, 89 yards, and a touchdown against one of the top 2 cbs in the nation.

I agree, was just stating that in response to another post, i think he had a very good day. I think ANY wr in the nfl would take 10/89/1 against the top level DB's.I prefer AJ Green to Julio, but like someone said, situation can play a major part in these two on fantasy draft day.

 

[FantasyCommish]

Jones biggest issues are in his own head. His concentration hasn't always been there at times. I have watched every game that he has played in and, as a Bama fan, I will tell you that if he ever really taps into his enormous talent, he will be an absolute monster. He is not the fastest WR that you'll see, but he is THE most physical WR in this draft for sure. He reminds me more of a Boldin or Marshall, but with more upside and less drama.

That said, I think one of the biggest things that he will immediately brings to any team that drafts him is in the running game. His run blocking is exceptional. This guy simply crushes people. IMHO he will impact the running game and passing game of whatever team chooses him.

I like AJ over Julio, but it's close. And I pray to Jeebus that neither of these two wind up in Cleveland or Carolina. We'll all be asking what funeral home to send the flowers to.

That's my 2 pennies.

 

[Hoosier16]

Be interesting if he goes to the Rams as many project. Dont think the gap between he and Green is nearly as large as some are making it out to be. Green is pretty frail.

If Julio went to the Rams, I'd take him ahead of Green in any league out there.AJ Green with a gimpy armed Palmer or Fitzpatrick, or Julio with a young stud?? Are you serious??Julio all day.

I'm with you on Julio but I can't believe you just lumped Palmer and Fitzpatrick together in the same sentence. With the 3rd pick next year, I think I'm looking at Jones and would be very happy to get him. I'm not sure I care what he runs in the 40.

 

[duaneok66]

Jones biggest issues are in his own head. His concentration hasn't always been there at times. I have watched every game that he has played in and, as a Bama fan, I will tell you that if he ever really taps into his enormous talent, he will be an absolute monster. He is not the fastest WR that you'll see, but he is THE most physical WR in this draft for sure. He reminds me more of a Boldin or Marshall, but with more upside and less drama. That said, I think one of the biggest things that he will immediately brings to any team that drafts him is in the running game. His run blocking is exceptional. This guy simply crushes people. IMHO he will impact the running game and passing game of whatever team chooses him. I like AJ over Julio, but it's close. And I pray to Jeebus that neither of these two wind up in Cleveland or Carolina. We'll all be asking what funeral home to send the flowers to.That's my 2 pennies.

i think Cleveland is a good fit - they have a very good OL and Hillis/Hardesty will be a decent backfield . . . McCoy is better than most think (NFL - not fantasy) . . . think of the Falcons as a model - if Julio is as good as you guys claim (I dont watch college FB) then Julio could be in a similar position to Rpddy White (lots of targets on a run based team) . . .

 

[Shawnky]

Terrell Owens 2.0? More like Reggie Williams 2.0.

You couldn't be more wrong. Judging by your screen name i'd assume you watched SEC football. Guess not.

 

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If he goes to st louis will be close to a lock to become a top 5 FF wr.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If he goes to st louis will be close to a lock to become a top 5 FF wr.

Why stop there, maybe top 2, right?

 

[moderated]

If he goes to st louis will be close to a lock to become a top 5 FF wr.

Why stop there, maybe top 2, right?

Eventually barring injury he will have a few top 3 FF seasons if he and bradford play together for an extended period of time.Bradford = ManningJulio>>>>wayneIf wayne put up monster years julio will easily do the same with a talent like bradford by his 3rd year.

 

[T.Rex]

If he goes to st louis will be close to a lock to become a top 5 FF wr.

Why stop there, maybe top 2, right?

Every time I read your post your a sarcastic jerk. Try and actually treat others decent for once.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If he goes to st louis will be close to a lock to become a top 5 FF wr.

Why stop there, maybe top 2, right?

Every time I read your post your a sarcastic jerk. Try and actually treat others decent for once.

Stop projecting

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If he goes to st louis will be close to a lock to become a top 5 FF wr.

Why stop there, maybe top 2, right?

Eventually barring injury he will have a few top 3 FF seasons if he and bradford play together for an extended period of time.Bradford = ManningJulio>>>>wayneIf wayne put up monster years julio will easily do the same with a talent like bradford by his 3rd year.

I can appreciate your enthusiasm but there are leaps of faith in here larger than Indiana Jones jumping in The Last Crusade.

 

[onlyseventeenpoints?]

In this thread MOP demonstrates not only his lack of knowledge in julio Jones but Indiana Jones movies as well.

 

[gump]

did you watch the game 10 catches for 89 yards. He definitely didn't do anything special ......Peterson owned him the year before when Julio basically couldn't catch a cold. Julio's only play was when Peterson was out of the game.

He had 10 catches...and a TD...against the best CB in college football, and he 'didn't do anything special'? We can spin both ways all we want...but in black and white...in 3 games vs LSU, Julio had 21 catches, 319 yds, 2 TDs.

Peterson will tell you who the best WR he's faced is...it was memorable matchup to watch over the years.

 

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did you watch the game 10 catches for 89 yards. He definitely didn't do anything special ......Peterson owned him the year before when Julio basically couldn't catch a cold. Julio's only play was when Peterson was out of the game.

He had 10 catches...and a TD...against the best CB in college football, and he 'didn't do anything special'? We can spin both ways all we want...but in black and white...in 3 games vs LSU, Julio had 21 catches, 319 yds, 2 TDs.

Peterson will tell you who the best WR he's faced is...it was memorable matchup to watch over the years.

It was fun to watch. Peterson did give Julio fits at time. Peterson is going to be a great CB.

 

[Shutout]

If he goes to st louis will be close to a lock to become a top 5 FF wr.

Why stop there, maybe top 2, right?

Eventually barring injury he will have a few top 3 FF seasons if he and bradford play together for an extended period of time.Bradford = Manning

Julio>>>>wayne

If wayne put up monster years julio will easily do the same with a talent like bradford by his 3rd year.

I can appreciate your enthusiasm but there are leaps of faith in here larger than Indiana Jones jumping in The Last Crusade.

Man. People assuming that Julio is elite right out of the box. He looks the part. He acts the part...at times (and that is what people REALLY need to pay attention to).

Look at the top receivers in the league, especially the ones you are comparing him to and check to see:

1) Were these established guys more or less consinstent in college than Julio has been?

2) How long did it take these established guys to become dominant?

In general, these established players were ahead of where Julio is now when they came to the pros (especially Wayne and AJ) and it took them a handful of seasons to become anything close to top 5 FF WRs. Jones may be a great young prospect but its still much more potential than substance at this point. To say he's going to be SO great so early is a real stretch, especially without knowing where he will play.

Yeah, he's definitely a top 3-4 guy in your dynasty draft (depending on where he and others get drafted), but I would stop short of annointing him. To just blanketly state that Julio > Wayne is really rediculous. Wayne has been the most durable, steady, and productive WR in the NFL over the past 8-9 years. That is a lot more actually accomplished than just another big WR coming out of college. Weren't people saying the same thing last year at this time about Demaryius Thomas?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

In this thread MOP demonstrates not only his lack of knowledge in julio Jones but Indiana Jones movies as well.

It was quite a leap of faith he makes in the Last Crusade, no?

 

[Hoosier16]

If he goes to st louis will be close to a lock to become a top 5 FF wr.

Why stop there, maybe top 2, right?

Eventually barring injury he will have a few top 3 FF seasons if he and bradford play together for an extended period of time.Bradford = ManningJulio>>>>wayneIf wayne put up monster years julio will easily do the same with a talent like bradford by his 3rd year.

I can appreciate your enthusiasm but there are leaps of faith in here larger than Indiana Jones jumping in The Last Crusade.

Man. People assuming that Julio is elite right out of the box.

I don't think anyone has assumed that.

 

[gump]

Another plus I don't see mentioned much about Julio...He's used to having a target on his back, in a pro-style, run-first offense.

Specifically in '10, Julio was Alabama's first option thru the air to establish the passing game, on big third downs, late in close games, etc. Maze had a nice year...but there no question in anyone's mind where the ball was going when Alabama absolutely needed to throw. And he had a lot of success in those situations last year.

I think that experience will help him adjust quickly to high NFL expectations.

 

[LawFitz]

Wow, a lot of gushing over JJ here. Dude has inconsistent hands and that's not easy to fix.

I think one of the best points made was by the guy who said he'd take whichever of the big names was drafted by STL. Bradford is the man and will provide a lot of opps for someone to be a stud WR for years to come, especially in dynasty.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Wow, a lot of gushing over JJ here. Dude has inconsistent hands and that's not easy to fix. I think one of the best points made was by the guy who said he'd take whichever of the big names was drafted by STL. Bradford is the man and will provide a lot of opps for someone to be a stud WR for years to come, especially in dynasty.

inconsistant in a way. he has great hands but his mind gets ahead of his hands sometimes. he wants to run before he gets the ball on the easy ones. little different than having poor hands.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

Another plus I don't see mentioned much about Julio...He's used to having a target on his back, in a pro-style, run-first offense. Specifically in '10, Julio was Alabama's first option thru the air to establish the passing game, on big third downs, late in close games, etc. Maze had a nice year...but there no question in anyone's mind where the ball was going when Alabama absolutely needed to throw. And he had a lot of success in those situations last year. I think that experience will help him adjust quickly to high NFL expectations.

Preston Dial?

 

[gianmarco]

I thought Dez was the most physical WR to enter the draft in a long time. Before that, I thought it was Calvin. Before that, I thought it was......

 

[zed2283]

I thought Dez was the most physical WR to enter the draft in a long time. Before that, I thought it was Calvin. Before that, I thought it was......

 

[shader]

Julio ran a 4.39 and absolutely was the combine star.

I'm telling you guys, he's going to be a monster. Depending on where him and AJ end up, he could be the top rookie taken in PPR drafts.

Such a athletic speciman. NFL teams will be salivating over him. He's got the TO body-type and work ethic, yet he has none of the "diva" attitude that many WR's have in today's NFL.

For fantasy purposes, I've been hoping that he'd fall to the Rams, but the Rams will have to trade up to get him now.

 

[cobalt_27]

Julio ran a 4.39 and absolutely was the combine star. I'm telling you guys, he's going to be a monster. Depending on where him and AJ end up, he could be the top rookie taken in PPR drafts.Such a athletic speciman. NFL teams will be salivating over him. He's got the TO body-type and work ethic, yet he has none of the "diva" attitude that many WR's have in today's NFL.For fantasy purposes, I've been hoping that he'd fall to the Rams, but the Rams will have to trade up to get him now.

Hey, just wanted to be clear...does he have any of the so-called "diva" in him, like what we get out of TO?TIA

 

[stbugs]

Julio ran a 4.39 and absolutely was the combine star. I'm telling you guys, he's going to be a monster. Depending on where him and AJ end up, he could be the top rookie taken in PPR drafts.Such a athletic speciman. NFL teams will be salivating over him. He's got the TO body-type and work ethic, yet he has none of the "diva" attitude that many WR's have in today's NFL.For fantasy purposes, I've been hoping that he'd fall to the Rams, but the Rams will have to trade up to get him now.

Hey, just wanted to be clear...does he have any of the so-called "diva" in him, like what we get out of TO?TIA

Ummm, who cares? Are you trying to say in FF you were disappointed with TO? If Jones ends up being like TO in results, it doesn't matter if he is a diva. Maybe if you are a 49er/Eagle/Cowboy fan, you have an issue with TO as an NFL player, but if you play FF, you have 0 issues with TO being a diva.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

before the combine. Someone will sneak in before StL, I could care less, I just want to see him play on Sundays.

 

[FantasyMan]

The best part of Julio's combine and the hype that is now following him is that I might be able to snag Green at 1.3.

 

[DevilDog919]

The best part of Julio's combine and the hype that is now following him is that I might be able to snag Green at 1.3.

 

[Pirates_Tide]

Julio ran a 4.39 and absolutely was the combine star. I'm telling you guys, he's going to be a monster. Depending on where him and AJ end up, he could be the top rookie taken in PPR drafts.Such a athletic speciman. NFL teams will be salivating over him. He's got the TO body-type and work ethic, yet he has none of the "diva" attitude that many WR's have in today's NFL.For fantasy purposes, I've been hoping that he'd fall to the Rams, but the Rams will have to trade up to get him now.

Hey, just wanted to be clear...does he have any of the so-called "diva" in him, like what we get out of TO?TIA

As a Bama fan I'm saying no. He might look like it, but he's a team player, never caused problems at the University, and everyone said he's really a nice guy. One thing about him is he's all business on the field and practices very hard. He puts 100% into everything.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

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Why stop there, maybe top 2, right?

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Eventually barring injury he will have a few top 3 FF seasons if he and bradford play together for an extended period of time.

Bradford = Manning

Julio>>>>wayne

If wayne put up monster years julio will easily do the same with a talent like bradford by his 3rd year.

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I can appreciate your enthusiasm but there are leaps of faith in here larger than Indiana Jones jumping in The Last Crusade.

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Man. People assuming that Julio is elite right out of the box. He looks the part. He acts the part...at times (and that is what people REALLY need to pay attention to).

Look at the top receivers in the league, especially the ones you are comparing him to and check to see:

1) Were these established guys more or less consinstent in college than Julio has been?

2) How long did it take these established guys to become dominant?

In general, these established players were ahead of where Julio is now when they came to the pros (especially Wayne and AJ) and it took them a handful of seasons to become anything close to top 5 FF WRs. Jones may be a great young prospect but its still much more potential than substance at this point. To say he's going to be SO great so early is a real stretch, especially without knowing where he will play.

Yeah, he's definitely a top 3-4 guy in your dynasty draft (depending on where he and others get drafted), but I would stop short of annointing him. To just blanketly state that Julio > Wayne is really rediculous. Wayne has been the most durable, steady, and productive WR in the NFL over the past 8-9 years. That is a lot more actually accomplished than just another big WR coming out of college. <b>Weren't people saying the same thing last year at this time about Demaryius Thomas?</b>

good stuff i agree completely