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Just Got Off the Phone With IRS Scammer (1 Viewer)

cstu

cstu

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We've had a bunch of these calls recently and I decided to play along with him for awhile. He knew I was messing with him and would just laugh. After awhile he got mad at me, telling me to "#### my mom's #####". Then he calmed down and started talking to me and telling me all about the scam and letting me listen to his calls to other people. Funny stuff but unfortunately I got cut off when he when hung up.

Edit: just called back, any questions you want me to ask?

 
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:lmao: at the literal translation of our curse word, I can hear this guy in a deep foreign accent shouting that right in my head.

Him telling you the scam reminds me of Henry Hill spilling the beans about the BC Point Shaving Scandal when completely unnecessary to do so. So many questions, but did he at least explain how they ultimately scam you? Say roughly how often it's successful, is there a wireroom full of guys like him calling people too? I'm very intrigued by this.

 
cstu said:
We've had a bunch of these calls recently and I decided to play along with him for awhile. He knew I was messing with him and would just laugh. After awhile he got mad at me, telling me to "#### my mom's #####". Then he calmed down and started talking to me and telling me all about the scam and letting me listen to his calls to other people. Funny stuff but unfortunately I got off when he when hung up.

Edit: just called back, any questions you want me to ask?
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Uhhh...

 
We had a long discussion about the scam business:

- they mainly target Indians and Chinese

- one Chinese guy gave sent payments of $30k, $20k, and $25k

- he makes $2000 a day on average

- he has family in the U.S. and plans to move here to continue the scam

 
cstu said:
We had a long discussion about the scam business:

- they mainly target Indians and Chinese

- one Chinese guy gave sent payments of $30k, $20k, and $25k

- he makes $2000 a day on average

- he has family in the U.S. and plans to move here to continue the scam
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Probably not a great idea if he's clearing ~2k a day doing this overseas scamming US Citizens/persons with work Visas when the US really can't just go arrest him overseas easily if he's caught. But, I'm also going to assume this might not have crossed his mind.

Makes sense, target people who are probably in the US to work hard and are presumably doing well, and are the least familiar with the IRS tax code/inner-workings/etc.

Can't wait for this to be an episode of American Greed, it's tailor-made for it.

Thanks for posting :thumbup:

 
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mquinnjr said:
cstu said:
We had a long discussion about the scam business:

- they mainly target Indians and Chinese

- one Chinese guy gave sent payments of $30k, $20k, and $25k

- he makes $2000 a day on average

- he has family in the U.S. and plans to move here to continue the scam
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Probably not a great idea if he's clearing ~2k a day doing this overseas scamming US Citizens/persons with work Visas when the US really can't just go arrest him overseas easily if he's caught. But, I'm also going to assume this might not have crossed his mind.

Makes sense, target people who are probably in the US to work hard and are presumably doing well, and are the least familiar with the IRS tax code/inner-workings/etc.

Can't wait for this to be an episode of American Greed, it's tailor-made for it.

Thanks for posting :thumbup:
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The scam is done over the phone and through online banks (scammed person buys a money order from Ralph's grocery store). No actual contact with the scammed. I assume he would be using burner phones.

 
mquinnjr said:
cstu said:
We had a long discussion about the scam business:

- they mainly target Indians and Chinese

- one Chinese guy gave sent payments of $30k, $20k, and $25k

- he makes $2000 a day on average

- he has family in the U.S. and plans to move here to continue the scam
Click to expand...
Probably not a great idea if he's clearing ~2k a day doing this overseas scamming US Citizens/persons with work Visas when the US really can't just go arrest him overseas easily if he's caught. But, I'm also going to assume this might not have crossed his mind.

Makes sense, target people who are probably in the US to work hard and are presumably doing well, and are the least familiar with the IRS tax code/inner-workings/etc.

Can't wait for this to be an episode of American Greed, it's tailor-made for it.

Thanks for posting :thumbup:
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No problem.

I did it for a laugh and we both were laughing our asses off. Couldn't believe when we started having a real conversation about the inner workings of the scam as well as his family, wanted to move here, etc.

 
cstu said:
We had a long discussion about the scam business:

- they mainly target Indians and Chinese

- one Chinese guy gave sent payments of $30k, $20k, and $25k

- he makes $2000 a day on average

- he has family in the U.S. and plans to move here to continue the scam
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Wow, crime does pay.

 
cstu said:
mquinnjr said:
cstu said:
We had a long discussion about the scam business:

- they mainly target Indians and Chinese

- one Chinese guy gave sent payments of $30k, $20k, and $25k

- he makes $2000 a day on average

- he has family in the U.S. and plans to move here to continue the scam
Click to expand...
Probably not a great idea if he's clearing ~2k a day doing this overseas scamming US Citizens/persons with work Visas when the US really can't just go arrest him overseas easily if he's caught. But, I'm also going to assume this might not have crossed his mind.

Makes sense, target people who are probably in the US to work hard and are presumably doing well, and are the least familiar with the IRS tax code/inner-workings/etc.

Can't wait for this to be an episode of American Greed, it's tailor-made for it.

Thanks for posting :thumbup:
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The scam is done over the phone and through online banks (scammed person buys a money order from Ralph's grocery store). No actual contact with the scammed. I assume he would be using burner phones.
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:eek:

I figured Money Orders, but I'm trying to conceptualize this (I'm not familiar with MO limits). So, this poor guy went to Ralph's, on 3 different occasions, and handed the WU/MG clerk $30k, then $20k, and finally $25k on different occasions - and it workedt? Wow.

 
cstu said:
We had a long discussion about the scam business:

- they mainly target Indians and Chinese

- one Chinese guy gave sent payments of $30k, $20k, and $25k

- he makes $2000 a day on average

- he has family in the U.S. and plans to move here to continue the scam
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Are you Chinese and/or Indian?
 
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xulf said:
cstu said:
We had a long discussion about the scam business:

- they mainly target Indians and Chinese

- one Chinese guy gave sent payments of $30k, $20k, and $25k

- he makes $2000 a day on average

- he has family in the U.S. and plans to move here to continue the scam
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Are you Chinese and/or Indian?
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No, but my wife is Indian.

 
We just got this message today. My daughter was the first one home and called me at work wondering what's going on. I've tried calling the number twice but after a couple of rings, it sounds like someone picks up, then silence, then a fast busy signal.

347-708-0070 if anyone wants to try to have fun with them.

 
cstu said:
We had a long discussion about the scam business:

- they mainly target Indians and Chinese

- one Chinese guy gave sent payments of $30k, $20k, and $25k

- he makes $2000 a day on average

- he has family in the U.S. and plans to move here to continue the scam
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Ever think of calling the FBI? These scumbags take gobs of money from the elderly.

 
They had this story on the national news the other night. It's remarkable how many people fall for it. The most important thing to remember: if you get into hot water with the IRS, their first contact is always by mail. Their initial contact will never be via telephone, and the authorities will not show up at your door before multiple letters are sent. And they will not ask you to send a payment via Western Union.

 
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FYI, IRS is severely understaffed at the moment. This year you could probably claim a ton of whoppers and not fear an audit.

They should outsource to these guys if they're bringing in 750K a year with just lies.

 
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