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Just made a bet who do you think will win? (1 Viewer)

Will TJ be within 10 rec and 100 yards of Boldins stats over last 14 games.

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therokie0070

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Ok this guy in my league traded a 2011 3rd round pick in a dynasty league for TJ housurmomma, I have been dog TJ all day and my last comment saying that Michelle Obama looked like a better prospect for Balt than TJ set him off and he wants to bet me that TJ will be with in 10 Rec and 100 yards of boldin over the last 14 games.

yes i say again he thinks TJ will come within 10 rec and 100 yard of Boldins stats over the last 14 games!!! he wanted to bet third round picks and I told him lets put our money were or mouths are and bet 2nd round picks. so the poll is who will win the bet

 
Not a 'what kind of league' guy....but.....what kind of league allows owners to double up on second round picks over a goofy side bet? Would seem extremely unfair to all the other owners. :no:

 
dynasty central said:
The only way you lose is if Boldin gets injured. Like that will ever happen.....
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Actually, he'd win. It would be unlikely that they'd be within 10 rec and 100 yards of each other, which were the parameters of the bet. If, for whatever reason, either one had 11 catches or more than the other OR one had 101 yards more than the other (doesn't matter which one)...the guy wins.And I agree that the bet seems a little unfair for the league. I think the loser should simply lose their second-round pick, and that round has one less pick in it. That way the league isn't really affected but the loser pays for their bravado.
 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
dynasty central said:
The only way you lose is if Boldin gets injured. Like that will ever happen.....
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Actually, he'd win. It would be unlikely that they'd be within 10 rec and 100 yards of each other, which were the parameters of the bet. If, for whatever reason, either one had 11 catches or more than the other OR one had 101 yards more than the other (doesn't matter which one)...the guy wins.
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Good luck trying to get away with that logic in a bet with anyone, anywhere.
 
Happy Ragnarok said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
dynasty central said:
The only way you lose is if Boldin gets injured. Like that will ever happen.....
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Actually, he'd win. It would be unlikely that they'd be within 10 rec and 100 yards of each other, which were the parameters of the bet. If, for whatever reason, either one had 11 catches or more than the other OR one had 101 yards more than the other (doesn't matter which one)...the guy wins.
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Good luck trying to get away with that logic in a bet with anyone, anywhere.
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The way that OP phrased the bet, NBZ is exactly right. OP wins if Boldin meets any one of four conditions. Nothing was stated that Hoosh could exceed Boldin's production and allow the other party to win the bet.
 
OddibeMcD said:
Happy Ragnarok said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
dynasty central said:
The only way you lose is if Boldin gets injured. Like that will ever happen.....
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Actually, he'd win. It would be unlikely that they'd be within 10 rec and 100 yards of each other, which were the parameters of the bet. If, for whatever reason, either one had 11 catches or more than the other OR one had 101 yards more than the other (doesn't matter which one)...the guy wins.
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Good luck trying to get away with that logic in a bet with anyone, anywhere.
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The way that OP phrased the bet, NBZ is exactly right. OP wins if Boldin meets any one of four conditions. Nothing was stated that Hoosh could exceed Boldin's production and allow the other party to win the bet.
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Right. If it'll help, I could cut and past my last statement and put it here again.Just editing to add: I'm not saying you're linguistically incorrect. Just that it's linguistically ambiguous. And more important, that depending on who you're wagering with, trying to use linguistics to wriggle into a more favorable wager is a good way to get called an #######, or get punched in the nose, or worse.
 
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Neil Beaufort Zod said:
dynasty central said:
The only way you lose is if Boldin gets injured. Like that will ever happen.....
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Actually, he'd win. It would be unlikely that they'd be within 10 rec and 100 yards of each other, which were the parameters of the bet. If, for whatever reason, either one had 11 catches or more than the other OR one had 101 yards more than the other (doesn't matter which one)...the guy wins.And I agree that the bet seems a little unfair for the league. I think the loser should simply lose their second-round pick, and that round has one less pick in it. That way the league isn't really affected but the loser pays for their bravado.
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Even that would affect other teams in the league because players will drop and adp will change. If these owners tried this in my league, it would be overturned, and i would consider kicking them out. unacceptable IMO.
 
there was one made in my local league last night as well...guy was talking trash about what a steal he got in kolb in the eight...well the bet ended with this

benson...2nd rd pic

kolb.......8th rd pick

vs

p. manning.....2nd rd pick

hightower......8th rd pick

total points on the year, non-ppr, all 6 pt TDs

 
Boldin, if healthy should do better that Housh by more than 10/100 based on Mason being the Vet target and most likely seeing more targets then Housh.

The bet is inappropriate for the league, side bets that affect game play shouldn't be allowed. It's not incorporated into the rules, and was never an intended part of the game, so should not happen. I wouldn't go as far as saying the outcome would be unfair though. I guess it would depend on what type of league this is. What is the 2nd rounder worth?

As far as whether the bet specified 10/100 over or under, obviously the intend would be for Boldin to score more points. If you try getting tricky with the wording rather than sticking to the spirit and intent of the bet you're looking for trouble. And unless you want to cause even more upheaval in the league you better not try getting cute. No one likes such drama in there otherwise friendly hobby.

 
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wow!! first I would like to say if TJ is within 10/100 or better I would lose! I dont see why everyone thinks it is such a crime to bet draft picks and I would bet any resonable amount of money if he was willing. bottom line is there is a slim to no chance TJ even comes close to Boldins numbers!!!

 
PinkydaPimp said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
dynasty central said:
The only way you lose is if Boldin gets injured. Like that will ever happen.....
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Actually, he'd win. It would be unlikely that they'd be within 10 rec and 100 yards of each other, which were the parameters of the bet. If, for whatever reason, either one had 11 catches or more than the other OR one had 101 yards more than the other (doesn't matter which one)...the guy wins.And I agree that the bet seems a little unfair for the league. I think the loser should simply lose their second-round pick, and that round has one less pick in it. That way the league isn't really affected but the loser pays for their bravado.
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Even that would affect other teams in the league because players will drop and adp will change. If these owners tried this in my league, it would be overturned, and i would consider kicking them out. unacceptable IMO.
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OMG Really????? I would never join your league in the first place if you take this hobby that seriously.
 
Why would you allow people to bet a second round pick on something? If you guys had bet $100 on the outcome, would you allow someone to buy a second round pick for a hundred dollars? What about if someone traded a case of beer for Adrian Peterson?

 
I want to bet my entire draft with another league member over who can throw a tennis ball farther. I hope the other guys in my league don't mind. It's for a half million.

 
bostonfred said:
Why would you allow people to bet a second round pick on something? If you guys had bet $100 on the outcome, would you allow someone to buy a second round pick for a hundred dollars? What about if someone traded a case of beer for Adrian Peterson?
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:headingtothestoreforcaseofbeer:
 
shredhead said:
PinkydaPimp said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
dynasty central said:
The only way you lose is if Boldin gets injured. Like that will ever happen.....
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Actually, he'd win. It would be unlikely that they'd be within 10 rec and 100 yards of each other, which were the parameters of the bet. If, for whatever reason, either one had 11 catches or more than the other OR one had 101 yards more than the other (doesn't matter which one)...the guy wins.And I agree that the bet seems a little unfair for the league. I think the loser should simply lose their second-round pick, and that round has one less pick in it. That way the league isn't really affected but the loser pays for their bravado.
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Even that would affect other teams in the league because players will drop and adp will change. If these owners tried this in my league, it would be overturned, and i would consider kicking them out. unacceptable IMO.
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OMG Really????? I would never join your league in the first place if you take this hobby that seriously.
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I wouldn't kick them, I'd just say sorry guys, not happenin..
 
Carolina Hustler said:
shredhead said:
PinkydaPimp said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
dynasty central said:
The only way you lose is if Boldin gets injured. Like that will ever happen.....
Click to expand...
Actually, he'd win. It would be unlikely that they'd be within 10 rec and 100 yards of each other, which were the parameters of the bet. If, for whatever reason, either one had 11 catches or more than the other OR one had 101 yards more than the other (doesn't matter which one)...the guy wins.And I agree that the bet seems a little unfair for the league. I think the loser should simply lose their second-round pick, and that round has one less pick in it. That way the league isn't really affected but the loser pays for their bravado.
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Even that would affect other teams in the league because players will drop and adp will change. If these owners tried this in my league, it would be overturned, and i would consider kicking them out. unacceptable IMO.
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OMG Really????? I would never join your league in the first place if you take this hobby that seriously.
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I wouldn't kick them, I'd just say sorry guys, not happenin..
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Yeah, that's reasonable. It's what most people would do. I just thought even considering kicking someone out for that was asinine, different strokes for different folks I guess, not the kind of league for me.
 
billyjohnson said:
Not a 'what kind of league' guy....but.....what kind of league allows owners to double up on second round picks over a goofy side bet? Would seem extremely unfair to all the other owners. :shrug:
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I can only think of one similar such 'bet' which is goofy and shouldn't happen in my league (even though I was one of the participants). As a goof in week 1 I traded my last round pick for another owner's last round pick (so whoever finished better would get a better pick, albeit in the last round). FWIW, I won and got his 18.01 pick, he got my 18.03. It literally made no difference as I drafted a kicker and he drafted a special teams. The guy in between did draft a kicker, but since I guy I grabbed was Buehler (he took Gould) I doubt it made a difference :shrug:But this kind of bet on something completely unrelated to the leagueis much more sketchy.-QG
 
wow you guys are really over doing this one, if the league has a problem with the bet we will/would just cancel it!!! To the guy that said being in a league that pays out acouple grand and we arent all best friends is not for him and is bull####, guess you dont play much highstakes Fantasy because I do and most of the highstakes league I play in are not friend just a bunch of gambling football junkies!!! Most all fantasy football is gambling so I dont know why everyone thinks it is so bad to bet a draft pick on football stats, it really only effects two players me and the other owner (no different than trading a player for picks).

 
sorry I am tired that paragraph is a mess!!! but you get the point, also I was just looking for everyones opinion on the stats but as usaul like most threads 95% of the replys are people #####ing and complaining about crap that has nothing to do with the question or the topic!!!

 
therokie0070 said:
sorry I am tired that paragraph is a mess!!! but you get the point, also I was just looking for everyones opinion on the stats but as usaul like most threads 95% of the replys are people #####ing and complaining about crap that has nothing to do with the question or the topic!!!
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:thumbup: OK--from the outside looking in...I'd suggest that your post--and the poll choices themselves--are what steered this thresd the way it's gone. The restrictive nature of the bet (10 rcpt and 100 yards) is ridiculous, and there's no way one should have bet for those odds. Obviously your contention that Michelle Obama is better is just as ridiculous. That would lead me to believe that it's really not the point which is worth debating.

So...what are we actually looking at here? The actual bet isn't worth discussing. Based on the poll choices, the way you presented them and the time--it sounds like you were both drinking and trying to one-up each other. That seems to have gone way overboard with a wager that impacts the entire league, since you are laying 2nd round picks on the line for absolutely nothing. You're insulted because people aren't giving an "opinion on the stats"? pffffft. Sorry about that.

 
therokie0070 said:
wow you guys are really over doing this one, if the league has a problem with the bet we will/would just cancel it!!! To the guy that said being in a league that pays out acouple grand and we arent all best friends is not for him and is bull####, guess you dont play much highstakes Fantasy because I do and most of the highstakes league I play in are not friend just a bunch of gambling football junkies!!! Most all fantasy football is gambling so I dont know why everyone thinks it is so bad to bet a draft pick on football stats, it really only effects two players me and the other owner (no different than trading a player for picks).
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Yes it is, it's very different. The value stays within the scope of the league. So you wouldn't care if the guy with 1.01 made a bet with the guy at 1.02 and 1.03 about who's wife has the biggest cup size? He'd have the 1.01, 1.02, and 1.03 if he won. But you're right, that's wouldn't effect anyone other than the 3 parties involved, right?
 
therokie0070 said:
wow you guys are really over doing this one, if the league has a problem with the bet we will/would just cancel it!!! To the guy that said being in a league that pays out acouple grand and we arent all best friends is not for him and is bull####, guess you dont play much highstakes Fantasy because I do and most of the highstakes league I play in are not friend just a bunch of gambling football junkies!!! Most all fantasy football is gambling so I dont know why everyone thinks it is so bad to bet a draft pick on football stats, it really only effects two players me and the other owner (no different than trading a player for picks).
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If I trade away Adrian Peterson for Jerry Rice than no, it doesn't affect just two teams. If affects everyone. If I decide to drop my entire team, it doesn't just affect me. If I'm involved in a fatal accident it just doesn't affect me and the other driver. Without attempting any disrespect I cannot fathom how you think this just affects the two of you.
 
Happy Ragnarok said:
OddibeMcD said:
Happy Ragnarok said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
dynasty central said:
The only way you lose is if Boldin gets injured. Like that will ever happen.....
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Actually, he'd win. It would be unlikely that they'd be within 10 rec and 100 yards of each other, which were the parameters of the bet. If, for whatever reason, either one had 11 catches or more than the other OR one had 101 yards more than the other (doesn't matter which one)...the guy wins.
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Good luck trying to get away with that logic in a bet with anyone, anywhere.
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The way that OP phrased the bet, NBZ is exactly right. OP wins if Boldin meets any one of four conditions. Nothing was stated that Hoosh could exceed Boldin's production and allow the other party to win the bet.
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Right. If it'll help, I could cut and past my last statement and put it here again.Just editing to add: I'm not saying you're linguistically incorrect. Just that it's linguistically ambiguous. And more important, that depending on who you're wagering with, trying to use linguistics to wriggle into a more favorable wager is a good way to get called an #######, or get punched in the nose, or worse.
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Wow, they would win a bet AND get the assaulter's kid's college fund? That would be quite an amazing turn of events. If you're going to make a wager, know what you're wagering. But I agree with the general sentiment that this is a dumb wager. I don't think the loser losing a second-round pick affects the league that much (one spot total) but I have no problme with a Commissioner nixing it.
 
therokie0070 said:
wow you guys are really over doing this one, if the league has a problem with the bet we will/would just cancel it!!! To the guy that said being in a league that pays out acouple grand and we arent all best friends is not for him and is bull####, guess you dont play much highstakes Fantasy because I do and most of the highstakes league I play in are not friend just a bunch of gambling football junkies!!! Most all fantasy football is gambling so I dont know why everyone thinks it is so bad to bet a draft pick on football stats, it really only effects two players me and the other owner (no different than trading a player for picks).
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Wow dude... You really don't get it. Let's say I'm in your division of the league and I have to beat you to advance to the playoffs. Now you win an extra 2nd rounder on a doofus bet from someone in a whole other division. How is it fair that I have to fight against a guy with an unfairly stacked team, but the players in the division with the idiot loser get to play him with a 2nd round handicapped team? It affects way more than just you two sword fighters. Savvy?The league is a total joke now.
 
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