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Never thought I' would see this one this blatant but one team in the league out of contention is playing a relative fighting for the last play-off spot.

The team out of the play-offs is fielding the WORST team possible, benching several STUDS they've played all season.

No doubt that it's intentional. What I'm not sure about is the scope... if its a straight tank for draft position next season.. or it's collusion, an attempt to give the relative an easy win.

As the commish of this keeper league, I will take action. Your ideas are welcome. Vicious attitudes appreciated.

 
don't invite them to christmas dinner.
I said "vicious"... but I like the concept. How about I invite them to Christmas dinner at the WRONG location, like two states away?
or invite them to christmas dinner and add some c-men in the eggnog.i wouldn't make too big a deal about it, it's a friends an family league. no need to make it awkward over fantasy football. just call him out on it and move on.
 
I'm assuming you already wrote off that they haven't set a new lineup for this week.

After that, just send them an e-mail I guess. Is this a difficult problem?

 
assuming it didn't involve players in tonight's game, perhaps call the tanking team on it and gently give them a chance to fix their "mistaken" lineup.

-QG

 
same thing is happening in my league. this week I need to win and have another guy lose for me to win my division, this league winning your division pays $250 and you get a first round bye. the guy I need to lose is playing his brother who is out of the playoffs and his brother has the following line up in

huard- not starting

betts- back up

M. bush-on IR

Ward- hurt/been out for weeks

givins- on IR

jarrett- does not get much PT

k. robinson- just came back from suspension

this should be his line up

anderson

grant

fargas

dayne

chambers

galloway

porter

this league does have a tanking rule

Losing intentionally (tanking a game)

• Losing intentionally to better your draft pick for the next season is prohibited.

• Losing intentionally to help out or to hurt another owner’s chance of making the playoffs is prohibited.

• The purpose of this league is to have fun. Failing to field your best team undermines the integrity of the league. Every owner must try to field his or her best team each week. Failing to get a lineup changed in time does happen sometimes, but intentionally losing a game for any reason, including to aid another team, or trying to improve draft position the following year, goes against the league rules and is not permitted.

• The commissioner has the right to adjust an owners line up if tanking is suspected

Why Tanking Is Wrong

• Tanking is wrong because it undermines the integrity of the games and the league. But let's examine some other ramifications that tanking could have on your league.

• The effects it has on other teams - tanking games can seriously affect the standings and playoff race of other teams

• Defeating the purpose of the draft order - as with the NFL, the purpose of a FFL draft should be to help the worst teams get better through the draft. However, if the team that is tanking is a middle tier team, he is going to screw the worst team out of bettering his already really bad team.

Punishment for tanking

• First time a warning

• Second time owner will be removed from the league

Collusion

• Collusion is not permitted. Each owner will try to win through the efforts of his or her team only. Collusion is demonstrated by any transaction or series of transactions that works to the exclusive benefit of one team and the detriment of the other, or any series of transactions that amount to two or more teams pooling their rosters.

• Any transaction a team participates in should be of benefit to the team’s game time efforts. A transaction done solely to aid another team who plays a rival does not count as showing a benefit, and is a clear-cut example of collusion.

• Borrowing player(s) (two owners make a trade and then those players are trade back to the originally owners at another time) is a form of collusion and is prohibited

I used my commissioner powers and put Grant in his line up in place of M. Bush, when the game started last night. I have sent him an email asking what is up with your line up. If he does not correct it I will, sad thing is I have known this guy for 10 years and cannot believe he his doing this, the guy is my barber. He has alway followed the rules.

If I decide to remove him for the league next year it will have a snow ball affect, I am sure his brother will quite and his dad also plays in the league and I am sure he will quite, this is a dynasty league.

what should his brother's punishment be? I am sure he is in on this.

 
I used my commissioner powers and put Grant in his line up in place of M. Bush, when the game started last night. I have sent him an email asking what is up with your line up. If he does not correct it I will, sad thing is I have known this guy for 10 years and cannot believe he his doing this, the guy is my barber. He has alway followed the rules. If I decide to remove him for the league next year it will have a snow ball affect, I am sure his brother will quite and his dad also plays in the league and I am sure he will quite, this is a dynasty league.
I hate it when everyone quites the league.
 
same thing is happening in my league. this week I need to win and have another guy lose for me to win my division, this league winning your division pays $250 and you get a first round bye. the guy I need to lose is playing his brother who is out of the playoffs and his brother has the following line up in huard- not startingbetts- back upM. bush-on IRWard- hurt/been out for weeksgivins- on IRjarrett- does not get much PTk. robinson- just came back from suspensionthis should be his line upandersongrantfargasdaynechambersgallowayporterthis league does have a tanking ruleLosing intentionally (tanking a game) • Losing intentionally to better your draft pick for the next season is prohibited. • Losing intentionally to help out or to hurt another owner’s chance of making the playoffs is prohibited. • The purpose of this league is to have fun. Failing to field your best team undermines the integrity of the league. Every owner must try to field his or her best team each week. Failing to get a lineup changed in time does happen sometimes, but intentionally losing a game for any reason, including to aid another team, or trying to improve draft position the following year, goes against the league rules and is not permitted. • The commissioner has the right to adjust an owners line up if tanking is suspected Why Tanking Is Wrong • Tanking is wrong because it undermines the integrity of the games and the league. But let's examine some other ramifications that tanking could have on your league. • The effects it has on other teams - tanking games can seriously affect the standings and playoff race of other teams • Defeating the purpose of the draft order - as with the NFL, the purpose of a FFL draft should be to help the worst teams get better through the draft. However, if the team that is tanking is a middle tier team, he is going to screw the worst team out of bettering his already really bad team. Punishment for tanking • First time a warning • Second time owner will be removed from the league Collusion • Collusion is not permitted. Each owner will try to win through the efforts of his or her team only. Collusion is demonstrated by any transaction or series of transactions that works to the exclusive benefit of one team and the detriment of the other, or any series of transactions that amount to two or more teams pooling their rosters. • Any transaction a team participates in should be of benefit to the team’s game time efforts. A transaction done solely to aid another team who plays a rival does not count as showing a benefit, and is a clear-cut example of collusion. • Borrowing player(s) (two owners make a trade and then those players are trade back to the originally owners at another time) is a form of collusion and is prohibited I used my commissioner powers and put Grant in his line up in place of M. Bush, when the game started last night. I have sent him an email asking what is up with your line up. If he does not correct it I will, sad thing is I have known this guy for 10 years and cannot believe he his doing this, the guy is my barber. He has alway followed the rules. If I decide to remove him for the league next year it will have a snow ball affect, I am sure his brother will quite and his dad also plays in the league and I am sure he will quite, this is a dynasty league. what should his brother's punishment be? I am sure he is in on this.
More importantly, you will probably get one doozey of haircut next time your in the chair. :lmao: :lmao: Honestly, i think you call the call and tell him it's pretty obvious he is fielding a team to help his brother win and you as the commish can't let it slide. If he is a stand-up guy he'll do the right thing.
 
First thing: This type of thing is probably going to happen more often in a league of friends and relatives than in a league of strangers. You have relationships with these people outside of football.

You need to step in immediately and warn the tanking owner and have him correct the lineup or have yourself and possibly a couple of other owners discuss what is the best lineup if you feel the owner may make it just better enough to not draw attention to who he is starting.

 
same thing is happening in my league. this week I need to win and have another guy lose for me

blah...blah...blah

Punishment for tanking

• First time a warning

• Second time owner will be removed from the league
First time is supposed to be a warning...you're not following the rules.
 
same thing is happening in my league. this week I need to win and have another guy lose for me

blah...blah...blah

Punishment for tanking

• First time a warning

• Second time owner will be removed from the league
First time is supposed to be a warning...you're not following the rules.
I know the rules. I do think the guy is messing with me. I got a haircut Monday and he said he was going to tank, in a joking way. Something must have happened for him not to put Grant in his line up last night. He is a good guy and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
fsufan said:
BassNBrew said:
fsufan said:
same thing is happening in my league. this week I need to win and have another guy lose for me

blah...blah...blah

Punishment for tanking

• First time a warning

• Second time owner will be removed from the league
First time is supposed to be a warning...you're not following the rules.
I know the rules. I do think the guy is messing with me. I got a haircut Monday and he said he was going to tank, in a joking way. Something must have happened for him not to put Grant in his line up last night. He is a good guy and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I have Grant in one league where I am out of it and I just got caught by the Thursday night game--I didn't know there was a game last night until it started. I tried to change lineup about 20 minutes after game start and obviously couldn't. If it is just one player from last night's game it could be something innocent like that. When your team isn't doing well you don't follow as carefully and could not notice an early start game.
 
fsufan said:
BassNBrew said:
fsufan said:
same thing is happening in my league. this week I need to win and have another guy lose for me

blah...blah...blah

Punishment for tanking

• First time a warning

• Second time owner will be removed from the league
First time is supposed to be a warning...you're not following the rules.
I know the rules. I do think the guy is messing with me. I got a haircut Monday and he said he was going to tank, in a joking way. Something must have happened for him not to put Grant in his line up last night. He is a good guy and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I have Grant in one league where I am out of it and I just got caught by the Thursday night game--I didn't know there was a game last night until it started. I tried to change lineup about 20 minutes after game start and obviously couldn't. If it is just one player from last night's game it could be something innocent like that. When your team isn't doing well you don't follow as carefully and could not notice an early start game.
but he has been starting Grant for the past 4 or 5 weeks and he has no other RB to start. Hell he put M. Bush in place of Grant, Bush is on IR. Grant has the most rushing yards in the NFL since week 8
 
Tanking is collusion.

the definition of collusion is a conspiracy to help another person whether the other person is involved or not.

There are multiple forms of collusion based on the definition, however many people refer to most of it as being strategic in gaining a playoff advantage or birth.

Control your own team, do not under any circumstances fail to allow another person what is rightfully his because you are afraid to play them. Should have thought of that at the draft and picked better players!

 
Tanking is collusion.the definition of collusion is a conspiracy to help another person whether the other person is involved or not.There are multiple forms of collusion based on the definition, however many people refer to most of it as being strategic in gaining a playoff advantage or birth.Control your own team, do not under any circumstances fail to allow another person what is rightfully his because you are afraid to play them. Should have thought of that at the draft and picked better players!
Ding, Ding, Ding.This is collusion. Collusion is not acceptable. Give the owner a chance to fix it on their own, or fix it for them with a CLEAR NOTE IN ADVANCE to the league and all other league members and let them know that should this happen again, the owner, friend family or other, will not be invited back in the league next year.
 
It may be wrong, but there's nothing you can do about it.

Your rules clearly state that the first offense gets a warning.

Assuming, he's never done this before, that's what he should get...a warning.

Your'e screwed and his brother is happy.

 
It may be wrong, but there's nothing you can do about it.Your rules clearly state that the first offense gets a warning.Assuming, he's never done this before, that's what he should get...a warning.Your'e screwed and his brother is happy.
And if I were the other league members, Id band together and bail. Any system that allows for collusion, so blatently, can not be worth being a part of.The warning happened. It gets fixed by Sunday or this is a second offense. Nothing states that a first and second offense must be in different weeks.
 
Tanking is collusion.

the definition of collusion is a conspiracy to help another person whether the other person is involved or not.

There are multiple forms of collusion based on the definition, however many people refer to most of it as being strategic in gaining a playoff advantage or birth.

Control your own team, do not under any circumstances fail to allow another person what is rightfully his because you are afraid to play them. Should have thought of that at the draft and picked better players!
Ding, Ding, Ding.This is collusion. Collusion is not acceptable. Give the owner a chance to fix it on their own, or fix it for them with a CLEAR NOTE IN ADVANCE to the league and all other league members and let them know that should this happen again, the owner, friend family or other, will not be invited back in the league next year.
Your definition of collusion is incorrect. Collusion involves two or more parties. This would be collusion if the other brother is in on it. Still hurts the integrity of the game though.Continue on.

 
It may be wrong, but there's nothing you can do about it.Your rules clearly state that the first offense gets a warning.Assuming, he's never done this before, that's what he should get...a warning.Your'e screwed and his brother is happy.
the PUNISHMENT portion of the rules say you give a warning .... but the REMEDY part of the rules says the comish can set the lineup. these are 2 different things..... no reason for him to be screwed.... as comish you set the lineup and the guy tanking gets his warning for tanking per the rules .
 
It may be wrong, but there's nothing you can do about it.Your rules clearly state that the first offense gets a warning.Assuming, he's never done this before, that's what he should get...a warning.Your'e screwed and his brother is happy.
And if I were the other league members, Id band together and bail. Any system that allows for collusion, so blatently, can not be worth being a part of.The warning happened. It gets fixed by Sunday or this is a second offense. Nothing states that a first and second offense must be in different weeks.
yes the warning has been given and he has till sunday to fix the rest of his line up. also this is in the rules. The commissioner has the right to adjust an owners line up if tanking is suspected
 
Loke said:
fsufan said:
I used my commissioner powers and put Grant in his line up in place of M. Bush, when the game started last night. I have sent him an email asking what is up with your line up. If he does not correct it I will, sad thing is I have known this guy for 10 years and cannot believe he his doing this, the guy is my barber. He has alway followed the rules. If I decide to remove him for the league next year it will have a snow ball affect, I am sure his brother will quite and his dad also plays in the league and I am sure he will quite, this is a dynasty league.
I hate it when everyone quites the league.
That would be quit a problem!
 
Tanking is collusion.

the definition of collusion is a conspiracy to help another person whether the other person is involved or not.

There are multiple forms of collusion based on the definition, however many people refer to most of it as being strategic in gaining a playoff advantage or birth.

Control your own team, do not under any circumstances fail to allow another person what is rightfully his because you are afraid to play them. Should have thought of that at the draft and picked better players!
Ding, Ding, Ding.This is collusion. Collusion is not acceptable. Give the owner a chance to fix it on their own, or fix it for them with a CLEAR NOTE IN ADVANCE to the league and all other league members and let them know that should this happen again, the owner, friend family or other, will not be invited back in the league next year.
Your definition of collusion is incorrect. Collusion involves two or more parties. This would be collusion if the other brother is in on it. Still hurts the integrity of the game though.Continue on.
Actually. By definition, the word conspiracy means (and yes, I went to dictionary.com) an act to conspire by two or more parties. So, you both were correct. Though I believe that what he was trying to say, is that in terms of FF - it doesn't matter if the two teams planned it out in the middle of the night in secret. If one team decides it is out and just sends a trade proposal to his buddy unloading all his studs, the benefiting owner is complicit in the act because anyone with a knowledge of the rules and a bit of integrity would see it for what it was and turn it down, even if their was no arrangement. If it is accepted, then it is up to the commish as to how complicit each owner was and how to punish them. It's all a slippery slope.As for this particular case - what a lucky break that there is a Thursday game. The Michael Bush on the IR in for Ryan Grant last night IS his warning. That was the first time he purposely tanked. You have now warned him, with plenty of time to think about things before Sunday. If he puts injured people out on the field again, you change them back and ask him to leave the league.

 
QuizGuy66 said:
assuming it didn't involve players in tonight's game, perhaps call the tanking team on it and gently give them a chance to fix their "mistaken" lineup.-QG
The best 1st step. If they do not comply, fix the lineup yourself, and somebody (I'd go with both personally) gets booted the next year.
 
How is this thread here and my thread got punted to the assistant coach?
mods don't like you?On topic, as commish of my league, I'd give them the opportunity to change it and if they didn't I would change it myself, potentially getting a second opinion from another preferably non-impacted owner. Even if your rules end up being vague, there's no reason to let a season get ruined just because your rules aren't explicit. Get three owners together as a commish body of sorts and determine a course of action that fixes the immediate problem, then update the rules in the offseason.Nothing wrong with applying the reasonable man standard in season if it's warranted, unless you have a bunch of brainless dumbasses in your league, in which case you jet out of there at season end.
 
fsufan said:
BassNBrew said:
same thing is happening in my league. this week I need to win and have another guy lose for me

blah...blah...blah

Punishment for tanking

• First time a warning

• Second time owner will be removed from the league
First time is supposed to be a warning...you're not following the rules.
I know the rules. I do think the guy is messing with me. I got a haircut Monday and he said he was going to tank, in a joking way. Something must have happened for him not to put Grant in his line up last night. He is a good guy and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I have Grant in one league where I am out of it and I just got caught by the Thursday night game--I didn't know there was a game last night until it started. I tried to change lineup about 20 minutes after game start and obviously couldn't. If it is just one player from last night's game it could be something innocent like that. When your team isn't doing well you don't follow as carefully and could not notice an early start game.
but he has been starting Grant for the past 4 or 5 weeks and he has no other RB to start. Hell he put M. Bush in place of Grant, Bush is on IR. Grant has the most rushing yards in the NFL since week 8
It is a very slippery slope you are travelling down right now. You should not just insert a player for a team when the direct outcome of his game effects you. Did you do this before or after Grant's 60+ yard TD? Did this guy have someone else that could have been started on Sunday rather than Grant? he could have put in a bogus lineup to mess with you and then started someone else Sunday. My suggestion is that you put a co-commish in place in the future so when circumstances like this happen you can push the decision to an uninterested party.I am not saying you did anything sketchy but if I was the other party trying to win the $250 and I found out you did this as a commish, I would be pissed. I had a guy in one of my other leagues bench Grant this week based on matchup. The Cowboys have not allowed a 100 yard runner this season. Remember, everyone sees values and mtchups differently. Just because you thought Grant should start doesn't mean it is so. who are his other backs?

ETA: FSU, I think you stepped over the line here, especially if he said he was just messing with you when you got your haircut. He has a viable started in Ward this week against a weak Bear run D. jacobs is most likely out which means that a newly healthy Ward will get the lion's share this weekend.

I am not trying to give you trouble but I think you overplayed your hand.

 
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I'm assuming you already wrote off that they haven't set a new lineup for this week. After that, just send them an e-mail I guess. Is this a difficult problem?
The line-up was set on Wednesday with every one of the previous week's starters removed except for one player - who was injured last week and placed on NFL IR. Two very good players were withheld from last nights game. Although its a "friends" league, the pay-off should exceed $300... No, no email yet. Still trying to decide best course of action. I'd prefer they figured out the problem with the tactic themselves.
 
fsufan said:
BassNBrew said:
same thing is happening in my league. this week I need to win and have another guy lose for me

blah...blah...blah

Punishment for tanking

• First time a warning

• Second time owner will be removed from the league
First time is supposed to be a warning...you're not following the rules.
I know the rules. I do think the guy is messing with me. I got a haircut Monday and he said he was going to tank, in a joking way. Something must have happened for him not to put Grant in his line up last night. He is a good guy and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I have Grant in one league where I am out of it and I just got caught by the Thursday night game--I didn't know there was a game last night until it started. I tried to change lineup about 20 minutes after game start and obviously couldn't. If it is just one player from last night's game it could be something innocent like that. When your team isn't doing well you don't follow as carefully and could not notice an early start game.
but he has been starting Grant for the past 4 or 5 weeks and he has no other RB to start. Hell he put M. Bush in place of Grant, Bush is on IR. Grant has the most rushing yards in the NFL since week 8
It is a very slippery slope you are travelling down right now. You should not just insert a player for a team when the direct outcome of his game effects you. Did you do this before or after Grant's 60+ yard TD? Did this guy have someone else that could have been started on Sunday rather than Grant? he could have put in a bogus lineup to mess with you and then started someone else Sunday. My suggestion is that you put a co-commish in place in the future so when circumstances like this happen you can push the decision to an uninterested party.I am not saying you did anything sketchy but if I was the other party trying to win the $250 and I found out you did this as a commish, I would be pissed. I had a guy in one of my other leagues bench Grant this week based on matchup. The Cowboys have not allowed a 100 yard runner this season. Remember, everyone sees values and mtchups differently. Just because you thought Grant should start doesn't mean it is so. who are his other backs?

ETA: FSU, I think you stepped over the line here, especially if he said he was just messing with you when you got your haircut. He has a viable started in Ward this week against a weak Bear run D. jacobs is most likely out which means that a newly healthy Ward will get the lion's share this weekend.

I am not trying to give you trouble but I think you overplayed your hand.
How blatant does it need to be? Didn't he say he put an IR player (Bush) in instead of Grant?
 
HULLOBUDMAN said:
fsufan said:
BassNBrew said:
fsufan said:
same thing is happening in my league. this week I need to win and have another guy lose for me

blah...blah...blah

Punishment for tanking

• First time a warning

• Second time owner will be removed from the league
First time is supposed to be a warning...you're not following the rules.
I know the rules. I do think the guy is messing with me. I got a haircut Monday and he said he was going to tank, in a joking way. Something must have happened for him not to put Grant in his line up last night. He is a good guy and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I have Grant in one league where I am out of it and I just got caught by the Thursday night game--I didn't know there was a game last night until it started. I tried to change lineup about 20 minutes after game start and obviously couldn't. If it is just one player from last night's game it could be something innocent like that. When your team isn't doing well you don't follow as carefully and could not notice an early start game.
but he has been starting Grant for the past 4 or 5 weeks and he has no other RB to start. Hell he put M. Bush in place of Grant, Bush is on IR. Grant has the most rushing yards in the NFL since week 8
It is a very slippery slope you are travelling down right now. You should not just insert a player for a team when the direct outcome of his game effects you. Did you do this before or after Grant's 60+ yard TD? Did this guy have someone else that could have been started on Sunday rather than Grant? he could have put in a bogus lineup to mess with you and then started someone else Sunday. My suggestion is that you put a co-commish in place in the future so when circumstances like this happen you can push the decision to an uninterested party.I am not saying you did anything sketchy but if I was the other party trying to win the $250 and I found out you did this as a commish, I would be pissed. I had a guy in one of my other leagues bench Grant this week based on matchup. The Cowboys have not allowed a 100 yard runner this season. Remember, everyone sees values and mtchups differently. Just because you thought Grant should start doesn't mean it is so. who are his other backs?

ETA: FSU, I think you stepped over the line here, especially if he said he was just messing with you when you got your haircut. He has a viable started in Ward this week against a weak Bear run D. jacobs is most likely out which means that a newly healthy Ward will get the lion's share this weekend.

I am not trying to give you trouble but I think you overplayed your hand.
I inserted Grant 1 minute after the GB/Dallas games started. He had Bush in his line up, his is on IR, come on. Grant has lead the NFL in rushing since week 8. No I didnt think he would have two TDs but Bush cannot get any TDs on the bench. The guys roster is below, as you can see he only has 3 starting RB, Grant, Fargas and Dayne. I am not buying Ward would be a better play than Grant, Ward is coming off a injury over that past 4 or so weeks and will probably spilt time with Droughns. The league rules are clear. If he was truly messing with me why didn't he put Grant in his line up before the GB/Dallas game started.

Also, he put Bush back in his line up Friday morning, that is when he got a serious email.

QBs

J Campbell

M Schaub

D Huard

D Anderson

D McNabb

RBs

M Bush

J Fargas

D Ward

R Grant

R Dayne

J Norwood

V Morency

L Betts

R Williams

L Johnson

WRs

C Chambers

J Galloway

D Jarrett

D Givens

K Robinson

J Porter

K

R Bironas

 
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Tanking is collusion.

the definition of collusion is a conspiracy to help another person whether the other person is involved or not.

There are multiple forms of collusion based on the definition, however many people refer to most of it as being strategic in gaining a playoff advantage or birth.

Control your own team, do not under any circumstances fail to allow another person what is rightfully his because you are afraid to play them. Should have thought of that at the draft and picked better players!
Ding, Ding, Ding.This is collusion. Collusion is not acceptable. Give the owner a chance to fix it on their own, or fix it for them with a CLEAR NOTE IN ADVANCE to the league and all other league members and let them know that should this happen again, the owner, friend family or other, will not be invited back in the league next year.
Your definition of collusion is incorrect. Collusion involves two or more parties. This would be collusion if the other brother is in on it. Still hurts the integrity of the game though.Continue on.
Actually. By definition, the word conspiracy means (and yes, I went to dictionary.com) an act to conspire by two or more parties. So, you both were correct. Though I believe that what he was trying to say, is that in terms of FF - it doesn't matter if the two teams planned it out in the middle of the night in secret. If one team decides it is out and just sends a trade proposal to his buddy unloading all his studs, the benefiting owner is complicit in the act because anyone with a knowledge of the rules and a bit of integrity would see it for what it was and turn it down, even if their was no arrangement. If it is accepted, then it is up to the commish as to how complicit each owner was and how to punish them. It's all a slippery slope.As for this particular case - what a lucky break that there is a Thursday game. The Michael Bush on the IR in for Ryan Grant last night IS his warning. That was the first time he purposely tanked. You have now warned him, with plenty of time to think about things before Sunday. If he puts injured people out on the field again, you change them back and ask him to leave the league.
That may be correct, but you looked up the wrong word. The poster stated the above definition of collusion. From dictionary.com, it is quite evident that the second brother would need to know of the transgression for this to be considered collusion... good luck proving that.As for the original issue, there appears to be plenty of evidence that the owners is 'tanking' by rule. I don't think the commish can reason who the owner should start (Grant v. Ward) unless Ward is out, but he should have the right to insert players who will actually see the field this weekend.

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–noun 1. a secret agreement, esp. for fraudulent or treacherous purposes; conspiracy: Some of his employees were acting in collusion to rob him.

2. Law. a secret understanding between two or more persons to gain something illegally, to defraud another of his or her rights, or to appear as adversaries though in agreement: collusion of husband and wife to obtain a divorce.

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[Origin: 1350–1400; ME (< MF) < L collūsiōn- (s. of collūsiō), equiv. to collūs(us) (ptp. of collūdere to collude) + -iōn- -ion]

—Synonyms 1. intrigue, connivance, complicity.

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n. A secret agreement between two or more parties for a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose.

[Middle English, from Latin collūsiō, collūsiōn-, from collūsus, past participle of collūdere, to collude; see collude.]

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collusion

1389, from O.Fr. collusion, from L. collusionem "act of colluding," from colludere, from com- "together" + ludere "to play," from ludus "game" (see ludicrous).

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noun

1. secret agreement

2. agreement on a secret plot [syn: connivance]

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my situation has been resolved. he emailed me and said he was just messing with me and should of put Grant in his line up. He said he and his brother are OK with me puting grant in. He has corrected the rest of his line up

 
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my situation has been resolved. he emailed me and said he was just messing with me and should of put Grant in his line up. He said he and his brother are OK with me puting grant in. He has corrected the rest of his line up
Glad to hear everything worked out. I still would recommend having a co commish to rule on decisions that effect the commissioner's chances of winning money. This situation may never happen again but you never know.I hope I didn't offend you. Just offering a contrary opinion. We had a playoff team start Barber over Grant this week. Everyone's opinions differ when it comes to who is a better start from week to week.
 
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my situation has been resolved. he emailed me and said he was just messing with me and should of put Grant in his line up. He said he and his brother are OK with me puting grant in. He has corrected the rest of his line up
Glad to hear everything worked out. I still would recommend having a co commish to rule on decisions that effect the commissioner's chances of winning money. This situation may never happen again but you never know.I hope I didn't offend you. Just offering a contrary opinion. We had a playoff team start Barber over Grant this week. Everyone's opinions differ when it comes to who is a better start from week to week.
you did not offended me, it is good advice. I do have an owner that I bounce ideas off of, I might ask him to be the co commish. I did ask his advice on this issue. he said if he did not change his line, I should use the CBSs Guru for his starters. this way I would not have to decided who to start since I was involved as an owner.
 
Two things I've always used in leagues I've run:

First...always have a backup to the commish..there should be one anyway..I mean, what if you got sick and were unavailable for a week or two?

Second: You should always have a third party source for ANY lineup decisions not made by the actual owner. Use some websites cheatsheets.

 
I inserted Grant 1 minute after the GB/Dallas games started. He had Bush in his line up, his is on IR, come on. Grant has lead the NFL in rushing since week 8. No I didnt think he would have two TDs but Bush cannot get any TDs on the bench. The guys roster is below, as you can see he only has 3 starting RB, Grant, Fargas and Dayne. I am not buying Ward would be a better play than Grant, Ward is coming off a injury over that past 4 or so weeks and will probably spilt time with Droughns. The league rules are clear.

If he was truly messing with me why didn't he put Grant in his line up before the GB/Dallas game started.

Also, he put Bush back in his line up Friday morning, that is when he got a serious email.
Ward outscored Grant in my ppr league this week :thumbup:
 
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