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trader jake
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can anyone shed some light on the houston lb situation and/or kailee wong in particular?tia 
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coolnerd
Footballguy
At the moment, Wong is one the starting inside LBs for the texans. His big challenger would Zeke Moreno, who really is really fighting for a spot on the roster not a starting job. The inside LBs for the Texans have been tackle getters because the system funnels everything to them. Wong should be a nice fantasy producer that can be had at a good price.
Rovers
Footballguy
There still remains a possibilty that Wong stays on the outside, if Moreno can beat him for the inside job, with Peek losing the starting slot on the outside. The Houston LB situation is far from clear, at this point. Houston is not out of the Boulware sweepstakes yet either. Wong should be in pecil here, not pen.
ziachild07
Footballguy
Kailee Wong will likely move from the ROLB spot where he started all 16 games last year for the Texans to fill the vacancy left by Jay Foreman. Wong has played MLB before when he was with the Vikings and put up his best stats there in 2000 with 112 tackles. In his one 2004 start inside for the Texans against the Colts, he had 5 tackles. So the move to the inside should be a relatively smooth one. Wong put up good enough stats in 2004 to warrant fantasy starter status as a 3rd LB. With his move to the inside he should build on these numbers and be bumped up to a borderline LB1/LB2 (depending once again on league size) as long as he can hold off Moreno and Evans. In the unlikely event Moreno or Evans do somehow manage to win the RILB job, they still warrant some fantasy consideration.
houndirish
Footballguy
Wong is one of my few "Undraftables".I've gotten burned by this guy two out of the past three years. I know his stock is rising because of the potential move inside but I don't think I can bring myself to draft him. He's just let me down too many times.My other "undraftables" are Courtney Brown and Peerless Price
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Texans | Wong Named Defensive Captain - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 2 Jun 2005 19:55:42 -0700
Nick Schenck, HoustonTexans.com, reports Houston Texans LB Kailee Wong has been named the team's defensive captain. "I think he is one of our best leaders," head coach Dom Capers said. "He's a smart guy. You know you can count on him. He's an intelligent guy that can handle all the things out there, and he's a guy that will be on the field all three downs."
Nice call Norton, wherever you are?
Thu, 2 Jun 2005 19:55:42 -0700
Nick Schenck, HoustonTexans.com, reports Houston Texans LB Kailee Wong has been named the team's defensive captain. "I think he is one of our best leaders," head coach Dom Capers said. "He's a smart guy. You know you can count on him. He's an intelligent guy that can handle all the things out there, and he's a guy that will be on the field all three downs."
Nice call Norton, wherever you are?
coolnerd
Footballguy
Here is link to the full article...He is relied on to call the plays and being the leader of the defense...Yeah, if the texans get stormed with injury at outside LB then wong could move back, but that possibility is not enough for to keep repeating the same fairly longshot idea. http://www.houstontexans.com/news/news_detail.php?PRKey=1715
tazmantiny
Footballguy
As the post above indicated, Capers has always liked him and his ability to be around the ball, and I dont think there is anyway he is not starting on the inside come opening day. Wong has a chance at 120+ tackles at the position.If you are drafting anytime soon, I would take the chance on him as he will produce for you.
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pretender
Footballguy
From Blogger today link http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3667466
SCOUTING REPORT: The Texans signed Kailee Wong as a free agent prior to the 2002 season and hoped he would be a big-time pass rusher in their 3-4 scheme. Wong was solid as an outside linebacker, but not dominant with just 14 sacks in three years. Wong is entering the final year of his contract, and the Texans are moving him to Jay Foreman's vacated inside linebacker position. Wong played middle linebacker in Minnesota's 4-3 scheme for four years before signing with the Texans. Wong's skills might be better suited for the inside. He's a physical, sure-handed tackler who is smart enough to make all the calls for the defense. Because Wong has pass-rush ability, expect the coaches to take advantage of that by blitzing from the inside linebacker positions more than they did the past three seasons with Foreman and Jamie Sharper.
IMPACT NEWCOMER: Morlon Greenwood will replace Sharper at the inside linebacker position opposite Wong. By signing Greenwood away from the Miami Dolphins, the Texans are younger, faster and more cap-friendly at the position. Whether Greenwood will match Sharper's playmaking ability remains to be seen. Greenwood was a solid starter on a perennially strong defense in Miami but never was considered an impact player. The Texans hope he'll have more opportunities to make plays in their system and are impressed with how quickly he has picked up the 3-4, a scheme he hasn't played since he was at Syracuse
Don't know if this will help or not but it looks like he's going inside.
SCOUTING REPORT: The Texans signed Kailee Wong as a free agent prior to the 2002 season and hoped he would be a big-time pass rusher in their 3-4 scheme. Wong was solid as an outside linebacker, but not dominant with just 14 sacks in three years. Wong is entering the final year of his contract, and the Texans are moving him to Jay Foreman's vacated inside linebacker position. Wong played middle linebacker in Minnesota's 4-3 scheme for four years before signing with the Texans. Wong's skills might be better suited for the inside. He's a physical, sure-handed tackler who is smart enough to make all the calls for the defense. Because Wong has pass-rush ability, expect the coaches to take advantage of that by blitzing from the inside linebacker positions more than they did the past three seasons with Foreman and Jamie Sharper.
IMPACT NEWCOMER: Morlon Greenwood will replace Sharper at the inside linebacker position opposite Wong. By signing Greenwood away from the Miami Dolphins, the Texans are younger, faster and more cap-friendly at the position. Whether Greenwood will match Sharper's playmaking ability remains to be seen. Greenwood was a solid starter on a perennially strong defense in Miami but never was considered an impact player. The Texans hope he'll have more opportunities to make plays in their system and are impressed with how quickly he has picked up the 3-4, a scheme he hasn't played since he was at Syracuse
Don't know if this will help or not but it looks like he's going inside.
slayer666
Footballguy
You should have had him on your "undraftable" list in two of the past three seasons when he was an OLB on a 3-4 defense. The move inside should positively impact his tackle numbers. I have secured Kailee Wong in two different IDP auction leagues at an incredible value. I think he has a decent shot at being a top 25 LB by 2005 seasons end.
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trader jake
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exactly...in my main league i just signed him for the minimum bid. with his move inside and no real challenge to his position there he should be golden for well over 100 tackles and a handful of sacks. he can prolly be had on the cheap and after my initial post i have yet to read anything that leads me to question his opportinuties this seasonthanx for the updates guys...lol
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
Texans | Capers Likes What He Sees From ILB Position
Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:04:18 -0700
The Houston Chronicle reports Houston Texans head coach Dom Capers likes what he sees from the inside linebacker positions in the 3-4 defense. Houston has two new starters for 2005 - LBs Morlon Greenwood and Kailee Wong - manning the starting inside spots. "I really like what I see of those two guys," said Capers. "First of all, they're real pros. They know how to prepare. Both are extremely hard workers. They do a great job in the classroom, and they're smart. And they're tough guys, too." Capers added that Greenwood is one of the team's quickest linebackers, while Wong's experience as an inside linebacker with the Minnesota Vikings allows him to be the "quarterback" of the defense. "I feel very comfortable with him making the calls," Capers said of Wong.
Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:04:18 -0700
The Houston Chronicle reports Houston Texans head coach Dom Capers likes what he sees from the inside linebacker positions in the 3-4 defense. Houston has two new starters for 2005 - LBs Morlon Greenwood and Kailee Wong - manning the starting inside spots. "I really like what I see of those two guys," said Capers. "First of all, they're real pros. They know how to prepare. Both are extremely hard workers. They do a great job in the classroom, and they're smart. And they're tough guys, too." Capers added that Greenwood is one of the team's quickest linebackers, while Wong's experience as an inside linebacker with the Minnesota Vikings allows him to be the "quarterback" of the defense. "I feel very comfortable with him making the calls," Capers said of Wong.
Miggity
not a phallus
Absolutely. Look where I got him in a 16 teamer:1 Vilma 6025
2 Bulluck 6000
3 Lewis 4500
4 Urlacher 3600
5 Barnett 3025
6 Edwards 3000
7 Thomas 2925
8 Fletcher 2850
9 Hartwell 2850
10 DJ Williams 2750
11 Greenwood 2700
12 Pierce 2650
13 Briggs 2600
14 Brooking 2600
15 Brooks 2400
16 Peterson 2350
17 Witherspoon 2250
18 Clark 2025
19 Spikes 1825
20 Morgan 1800
21 Cowart 1775
22 Sharper 1625
23 Farrior 1625
24 A. Davis 1550
25 Lehman 1525
26 Trotter 1425
27 Barton 1325
28 Nguyen 1325
29 June 1300
30 D. Smith 1250
31 Arrington 1200
32 Wong 1075
DonnieDarko
Footballguy
It is interesting that Jason Babin's name has not appeared even once in this thread.
With a good rookie season under his belt, expect the formerly converted DE to be a force as a pass rushing OLB for Houston this season.
Double-digit sacks should be considered a given.
With a good rookie season under his belt, expect the formerly converted DE to be a force as a pass rushing OLB for Houston this season.
Double-digit sacks should be considered a given.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
Only two starting OLB's (Suggs and Foley) netted 10+ sacks last year.DonnieDarko
Footballguy
Not in Dom Capers' system. That's the exact reason he drafted Babin before last season. He's been searching for the pass rushing OLB his system requires since he went to Houston. It's similar to what Parcells will try to do in Dallas... remember his scheme and the performance of LT?Okay, Jason Babin doesn't belong in the same post as LT... I'll concede that
I'll come down a notch... think in terms of Kevin Greene who flourished in Capers' 3-4 scheme while in Pittsburgh and in Carolina.
greene's stats from those years:T A SNot in Dom Capers' system. That's the exact reason he drafted Babin before last season. He's been searching for the pass rushing OLB his system requires since he went to Houston. It's similar to what Parcells will try to do in Dallas... remember his scheme and the performance of LT?Okay, Jason Babin doesn't belong in the same post as LT... I'll concede that
I'll come down a notch... think in terms of Kevin Greene who flourished in Capers' 3-4 scheme while in Pittsburgh and in Carolina.
48 19 13
56 13 14
35 12 9
38 13 14.5
unless your league heavily weighs sacks, thats bye week/injury fill-in material at LB.
DonnieDarko
Footballguy
My scoring system values a Sack at 12 pts and a Tackle at 3 pts, so that may be part of the issue, but you need to keep things in historical perspective. Two of the years you listed, Kevin Greene led the NFL in Sacks . Any time you're starting the NFL Sack leader in a given season, you can't complain too much.greene's stats from those years:T A SNot in Dom Capers' system. That's the exact reason he drafted Babin before last season. He's been searching for the pass rushing OLB his system requires since he went to Houston. It's similar to what Parcells will try to do in Dallas... remember his scheme and the performance of LT?Okay, Jason Babin doesn't belong in the same post as LT... I'll concede that
I'll come down a notch... think in terms of Kevin Greene who flourished in Capers' 3-4 scheme while in Pittsburgh and in Carolina.
48 19 13
56 13 14
35 12 9
38 13 14.5
unless your league heavily weighs sacks, thats bye week/injury fill-in material at LB.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
Texans | Wong Receives ExtensionTue, 9 Aug 2005 17:33:39 -0700ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Houston Texans have reached an extension with LB Kailee Wong. The four-year deal, good through 2009, is worth $17.65 million, including $7 million in 2005.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
In my local league we keep 22 of 32 players, then have an 8 round rookie/free agent draft. The Wong owner cut him, obviously not realizing his move to ILB. I'm taking him at pick 36 if he's still there. solo tkl=1 pt, sack=6, int=8+1 per 10 yards returned, td=6+1 per 10 yards. Hartwell, Watson, and Chad Brown are available too.
