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I truly can't believe how bad this is getting.  I'm really grieved by what's going on in and around New Orleans.  My heart goes out to all that are involved.  To Tipsey and all of the fbgs involved, you all will be in my prayers.  I'm deeply saddened by what I'm seeing.  Good luck and God bless you guys.  :(
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much thanks & love. my family is safe. everything else is gravy.
 
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oh dear Lord,  more news is worse...being reported on foxnews

Mayor of NO is saying city is devastated;  no widespread power for 2 months; no school for at least 2 MONTHS !!

Bourbon & Canal have gone from dry streets this am, to about 9" under water now.

WWL radio is only station up & running, so they are broadcasting on ALL frequencies to relay information.

local parish president says: "This is so much bigger than we ever feared, we don't know how to proceed"
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where is this from?
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Shep Smith just reported all that on foxnews-TV at the top of this past hour. He said much more, but that's all I could get. And he added that some town southeast of NO is gone. under water.
 
oh dear Lord,  more news is worse...being reported on foxnews

Mayor of NO is saying city is devastated;  no widespread power for 2 months; no school for at least 2 MONTHS !!

Bourbon & Canal have gone from dry streets this am, to about 9" under water now.

WWL radio is only station up & running, so they are broadcasting on ALL frequencies to relay information.

local parish president says: "This is so much bigger than we ever feared, we don't know how to proceed"
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where is this from?
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Shep Smith just reported all that on foxnews-TV at the top of this past hour. He said much more, but that's all I could get. And he added that some town southeast of NO is gone. under water.
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most of plaqumines parish i would think. Venice at the mouth of the mississippi river mouth to the gulf must be washed away completely. No idea, just a supposition.
 
I truly can't believe how bad this is getting. I'm really grieved by what's going on in and around New Orleans. My heart goes out to all that are involved. To Tipsey and all of the fbgs involved, you all will be in my prayers. I'm deeply saddened by what I'm seeing. Good luck and God bless you guys. :(
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Ditto. We're thinking about you all.
 
I truly can't believe how bad this is getting.  I'm really grieved by what's going on in and around New Orleans.  My heart goes out to all that are involved.  To Tipsey and all of the fbgs involved, you all will be in my prayers.  I'm deeply saddened by what I'm seeing.  Good luck and God bless you guys.   :(
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much thanks & love. my family is safe. everything else is gravy.
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ditto
 
oh dear Lord,  more news is worse...being reported on foxnews

Mayor of NO is saying city is devastated;  no widespread power for 2 months; no school for at least 2 MONTHS !!

Bourbon & Canal have gone from dry streets this am, to about 9" under water now.

WWL radio is only station up & running, so they are broadcasting on ALL frequencies to relay information.

local parish president says: "This is so much bigger than we ever feared, we don't know how to proceed"
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where is this from?
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Shep Smith just reported all that on foxnews-TV at the top of this past hour. He said much more, but that's all I could get. And he added that some town southeast of NO is gone. under water.
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most of plaqumines parish i would think. Venice at the mouth of the mississippi river mouth to the gulf must be washed away completely. No idea, just a supposition.
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Yep - the words were something like "that land has been reclaimed by the Mississippi River"
 
Since no one seems to have info on the street name and where it's located in relation to the damage in Biloxi, is there a site I can go to where I can put in the street name and see where it's located in relation to the parts that were hit so hard?
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Biloxi: Massive damage in east end of city. . . almost total devastation primarily south of the railroad tracks near Lee Street, Point Cadet and Casino Row. . . Beau Rivage still stands. . . Hard Rock Casino, scheduled to open in early September, suffered 50 percent damages. The signature guitar, said to be the world's largest, still stands. . . At least five casinos out of commission. . . St. Thomas the Apostlic Catholic Church, which sits on U.S. 90, is gone.SunHerald

According to a yahoo map, Pass Rd. is just a few blocks west of Lee Street and Point Cadet.
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Pass Rd runs parallel to the coast, a few blocks inland.google maps

Put in Pass Rd. Biloxi, MS for a decent map of the area.

I hate to say it Mrs. BRS, but that's not a location I'd like to be in. Hope everything is OK as can be with your client.
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Thank you and thank you for your concern. We're just going to have to sit and wait as we don't know any of her family to ask.On a more morbid note, we may have to see if they post a list of the dead and check that. I really don't want to do that but we may have no other options in finding out if she's ok.

 
oh dear Lord, more news is worse...being reported on foxnews

Mayor of NO is saying city is devastated; no widespread power for 2 months; no school for at least 2 MONTHS !!

Bourbon & Canal have gone from dry streets this am, to about 9" under water now.

WWL radio is only station up & running, so they are broadcasting on ALL frequencies to relay information.

local parish president says: "This is so much bigger than we ever feared, we don't know how to proceed"
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where is this from?
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Shep Smith just reported all that on foxnews-TV at the top of this past hour. He said much more, but that's all I could get. And he added that some town southeast of NO is gone. under water.
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most of plaqumines parish i would think. Venice at the mouth of the mississippi river mouth to the gulf must be washed away completely. No idea, just a supposition.
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:( Just think about all of these people who still have no idea of the total devastation that is happening even though they are there as so many can't watch the news.

We all know more just because everyone here is pulling all of their resources together and getting more information than any local or national news could give.

 
oh dear Lord,  more news is worse...being reported on foxnews

Mayor of NO is saying city is devastated;  no widespread power for 2 months; no school for at least 2 MONTHS !!

Bourbon & Canal have gone from dry streets this am, to about 9" under water now.

WWL radio is only station up & running, so they are broadcasting on ALL frequencies to relay information.

local parish president says: "This is so much bigger than we ever feared, we don't know how to proceed"
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where is this from?
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Shep Smith just reported all that on foxnews-TV at the top of this past hour. He said much more, but that's all I could get. And he added that some town southeast of NO is gone. under water.
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most of plaqumines parish i would think. Venice at the mouth of the mississippi river mouth to the gulf must be washed away completely. No idea, just a supposition.
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:( Just think about all of these people who still have no idea of the total devastation that is happening even though they are there as so many can't watch the news.

We all know more just because everyone here is pulling all of their resources together and getting more information than any local or national news could give.
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Mrs. TF's grandfather was one of the stubborn ones who decided to stay. He didn't get any water in his house, so he thinks he's fine. He can't watch TV obviously, so he hasn't been able to see any of this. I sincerely hope he's going to be ok - but unfortunately I don't think it's going to be the case.

 
I can't remember if this was posted already or not:

Jeff Parish President: "Residents will probably be allowed back in town in a week, with identification only, but only to get essentials and clothing. You will then be asked to leave and not come back for one month."
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Finally got word about my friend's family.  They're all fine.  Mother's house on the back bay, fine.  Step-dad's parent's house across the street from Grand Magic, gone, but that was expected.

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Glad to hear they're ok. Sorry to hear about the house though.
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Thanks. I was getting a little worried after watching a little CNN. Seemed to me like they had the most morbid coverage of any channel... like they were just writing off anyone that stayed in Biloxi/Gulfport.Just catching up... heard from your client yet?

 
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This is probably way too premature but I'm curious. Has there been past talk in the new orleans area to beef up the levees or pumping systems? Also what can be done to the levee/pump infrastructure to ensure this doesn't happen again?

 
"We survived Camille, so we'll be fine in this one" :no: Subborn = StupidGB all those who have loved ones and friends down there. Terrible situation.-fe

 
This is probably way too premature but I'm curious. Has there been past talk in the new orleans area to beef up the levees or pumping systems? Also what can be done to the levee/pump infrastructure to ensure this doesn't happen again?
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From what I understand, a disaster like this was a matter of "when" not "if" so they had talked about beefing up their defenses, however, I heard something on CNN that said that raising the levees would be a project that would run into the billions. Projects of that scope aren't usually within the vision or the ability of a city or even state government.
 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
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i would do anything for supplies short of killing people. a new tv...you deseve a gunshot to the knee at the least. i just hope the thugdom doesn't expand into our homes. that may be worthy of a public hanging IMHO.
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Saw some idiots running down the street with beer. Sure, I love beer (no pun intended with the earlier fishing trip), but it's not a necessity.
 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
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i would do anything for supplies short of killing people. a new tv...you deseve a gunshot to the knee at the least. i just hope the thugdom doesn't expand into our homes. that may be worthy of a public hanging IMHO.
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Saw some idiots running down the street with beer. Sure, I love beer (no pun intended with the earlier fishing trip), but it's not a necessity.
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If it's just going to be thrown away anyway then who cares?
 
I saw this thing on tv where an oil platform is up against a bridge.

WTF?!?!? How in the world does that happen? Why didn't it just sink in the ocean?
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Don't know if this has been covered yet, but it was moored in the canal having repairs done on it in Mobile. Broke loose and floated into the bridge. Didn't look "too" bad from the pictures. Yes, the oil platforms float... they're usually anchored to the bottom and the structure is not attached the the bottom itself.
 
This is probably way too premature but I'm curious.  Has there been past talk in the new orleans area to beef up the levees or pumping systems?  Also what can be done to the levee/pump infrastructure to ensure this doesn't happen again?
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In a nutshell, the primary levee system around NOLA is mainly designed to protect the city during flood stages of the Mississippi River. There are other levees along Lake Ponch and various canals, along with a series of flood protection gates and pumping systems, but none are/were designed to withstand a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane (edit to add: over the years, I've heard numerous experts state, when questioned about why not, that it's simply cost prohibitive to design to that level storm) .If interested, the book "Rising Tide" provides a comprehensive history of how the levee system around New Orleans evolved.

 
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This is probably way too premature but I'm curious. Has there been past talk in the new orleans area to beef up the levees or pumping systems? Also what can be done to the levee/pump infrastructure to ensure this doesn't happen again?
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They recently did this to bring it up to Hurrican Betsey standards.Maybe New Orelans will learn now that we need to do things right the first time.

 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level? I'm still not getting that part.

 
I don't know if anyone else has heard about this, but the Dutch face similar problems with surrounding waters flooding their cities and being below sea level. I saw a special on them a while back and the solutions that they've come up with for combating this were just amazing. I'm trying to find some links on it, but it seems that in the rebuilding phase of N.O., a lot could be learned from the dutch.

 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level? I'm still not getting that part.
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The beaver is surprisingly ignorant of things having to do with water flow and dam building. Beginning to question his credentials as a real beaver......
 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level? I'm still not getting that part.
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We New Orleanians don't drink water. We get our moisture through our feet, which keeps the soil dry. Of course, we don't wear shoes to facilitate the moisture intake.
 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level?  I'm still not getting that part.
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The beaver is surprisingly ignorant of things having to do with water flow and dam building. Beginning to question his credentials as a real beaver......
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Have you ever seen a beaver dam? Not exactly engineering marvels. Gather a bunch of sticks and mud, drop it in a pile, voila! Beaver dam.
 
Again, to reaffirm the coolness of Mayor Nagin, I just saw an interview on wwltv with. In reference to the city of New Orleans, He busted out with "It's time for our A game." You da man Nagin. :thumbup:

 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level?  I'm still not getting that part.
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The beaver is surprisingly ignorant of things having to do with water flow and dam building. Beginning to question his credentials as a real beaver......
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Have you ever seen a beaver dam? Not exactly engineering marvels. Gather a bunch of sticks and mud, drop it in a pile, voila! Beaver dam.
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Not very visually appealing, but effective. Architects? No. Engineers? Yes.

 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level?  I'm still not getting that part.
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We New Orleanians don't drink water. We get our moisture through our feet, which keeps the soil dry. Of course, we don't wear shoes to facilitate the moisture intake.
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level?  I'm still not getting that part.
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We New Orleanians don't drink water. We get our moisture through our feet, which keeps the soil dry. Of course, we don't wear shoes to facilitate the moisture intake.
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And don't forget the giant sponges lining the streets.
 
Saw someone ask. This is the only real mention I've seen of Uptown..."The famous oaks along New Orleans' St. Charles Avenue and its Uptown side streets were shattered. The avenue was made impassable by thickets of downed trees, many entangled with downed utility poles and criss-crossing power lines. Parked cars were smashed; many trees fell onto houses they once shaded."

 
Again, to reaffirm the coolness of Mayor Nagin, I just saw an interview on wwltv with. In reference to the city of New Orleans, He busted out with "It's time for our A game." You da man Nagin. :thumbup:
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LOL :thumbup: Time to "bring the pain", baby.

 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level?  I'm still not getting that part.
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We New Orleanians don't drink water. We get our moisture through our feet, which keeps the soil dry. Of course, we don't wear shoes to facilitate the moisture intake.
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And don't forget the giant sponges lining the streets.
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They do well soaking up the alcohol, but not so much the water. And they don't take to kindly to being called sponges, either.
 
omg...the twinspan is just done. not repaiirable. MAJOR RAMIFICATIONS for the entire economy & escapability of the city now. only 2 other ways out now essentially.This is getting worse & worse by the minute.

 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level? I'm still not getting that part.
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Constantly pumping out water.
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Okay, but what about back before there were motorized pumps? Did the first people come along and say "this would be a great place for a city, too bad it's under 8 feet of water. Oh well, everybody grab a bucket and start bailing!"Seriously. Or has the city sunk lower since it was first founded?

 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level?  I'm still not getting that part.
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We New Orleanians don't drink water. We get our moisture through our feet, which keeps the soil dry. Of course, we don't wear shoes to facilitate the moisture intake.
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And don't forget the giant sponges lining the streets.
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They do well soaking up the alcohol, but not so much the water. And they don't take to kindly to being called sponges, either.
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lol squirrels.we can explain it later. moot at this point.

 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
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i would do anything for supplies short of killing people. a new tv...you deseve a gunshot to the knee at the least. i just hope the thugdom doesn't expand into our homes. that may be worthy of a public hanging IMHO.
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Saw some idiots running down the street with beer. Sure, I love beer (no pun intended with the earlier fishing trip), but it's not a necessity.
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What if they are alcoholics, then it is somewhat of a necessity.
 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level?  I'm still not getting that part.
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Constantly pumping out water.
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Okay, but what about back before there were motorized pumps? Did the first people come along and say "this would be a great place for a city, too bad it's under 8 feet of water. Oh well, everybody grab a bucket and start bailing!"Seriously. Or has the city sunk lower since it was first founded?
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history lesson later.
 
omg...the twinspan is just done. not repaiirable. MAJOR RAMIFICATIONS for the entire economy & escapability of the city now. only 2 other ways out now essentially.

This is getting worse & worse by the minute.
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Which bridge is the twinspan?
 
Good lord... I go out to do some work and it seems like Armageddon when I get back. To all the New Orleans residents, my heart goes out to you. I might be in the area this weekend although it doesn't sound like they'll be letting people over there, so I guess I'll be in Biloxi most likely.This is just crazy. Having a hard time really understanding it right now.Mrs. BSR, I wouldn't start thinking doom and gloom just yet. Like I said, my friend's parents lived on the back bay close to Pop's Ferry Rd. and they rode the storm out alright.

 
How on earth do they keep out groundwater if they're below sea level?  I'm still not getting that part.
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Constantly pumping out water.
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Okay, but what about back before there were motorized pumps? Did the first people come along and say "this would be a great place for a city, too bad it's under 8 feet of water. Oh well, everybody grab a bucket and start bailing!"Seriously. Or has the city sunk lower since it was first founded?
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Well, legend has it that the Indians told the first settlers it wasn't a great place to build a city. And yes, it has sunk since it was built. Part of this is do to the levee system that keeps te Mississippi from flooding NO. The flooding, while a major problem, did serve the purpose of depositing silt into the area, slowing the rate at which the earth disappeared beneath the city. The levee system prevented much of the flooding, but it also eliminated the silt deposition, hastening the rate at which the land was sinking. This was covered in a Time Mag. article a few years ago talking about this very "Doomsday scenario".

 
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