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http://www.wlbt.com/

Unbelievable chopper footage of the Miss. coast. Click the link at the top. There are casino boats in the middle of downtown Gulfport. Huge containers (that look like railcars) from the shipyards tossed all over residential areas.

Looks like something from an apocalyptic movie.
Wow. What does one do to rebuild after such devastation?
Gulf Shores got nailed a year ago and there's still homes and businesses where they haven't even begun to rebuild. I can't imagine how long it will take for this kind of devastation.
 
This thread is really informative, and I want to thank everyone who posts factual, timely information.Mr. Ham, however, can go scratch. Go start your own thread, Hijack boy.

 
On a related note, I just tried calling my friend from Slidell via his cell phone. Got a reply that due to the hurricane, no calls are being accepted for his area code. There still have been no reports on Slidell, and I didn't hear whether he evacuated or not. He just graduated from college a year or so ago, got married, and JUST bought a new house, and he was spending the entire summer fixing it up, installing carpet, making it a nice home. I can't imagine what it'd be like to lose all that work and money, but more importantly I hope he and his whole family got out of town.

 
I haven't seen anything, might just not have caught it, but was there any damage to Baton Rouge?OK, I expected Slidell to be questionable, but I can't even get calls through to BR. Crikey. Not even gonna TRY N.O.

 
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This thread is really informative, and I want to thank everyone who posts factual, timely information.

Mr. Ham, however, can go scratch. Go start your own thread, Hijack boy.
Removed my threads due to the fact that people are seeking information here. Another time and another place.
I removed all of the replies to your threads and the replies to the replies to the replies.Let's all keep away from political talk in here.

 
Patients in need center sent to Ochsner

04:47 PM CDT on Tuesday, August 30, 2005

Associated Press

Federal officials said that 2,500 patients were being evacuated because at least seven hospitals in Orleans Parish were threatened by the loss of their power generators and other problems.

Ochsner is one of the few in the area still up and running.

Broussard: Don't return until Monday

Tuesday, 4:55 p.m.

Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard urged evaucated residents not to return to their homes until Monday, at the earliest. Residents will be asked to show a driver's license or some other ID to gain entry into the parish. They will be allowed to stay for a short while to pick up necessary belongings and then will be asked to leave for a month. Broussard also declared a state of martial law in Jefferson Parish

LaPlace hospital closed; Slidell hospital seeks nurses

Tuesday, 4:46 p.m.

Officials said River Parishes Hospital in LaPlace was closed and that the hospital was routing patients to Ascension Parish.

Meanwhile, Northshore Hospital in Slidell had put out a call for credentialed nurses.

Hotels tell guests to go to Dome shelter

Tuesday, 4:45 p.m.

Many downtown New Orleans hotels who had taken in guests for the hurricane began closing Tuesday, asking their guests to go to the shelter in the Superdome.

By Tuesday afternoon, the National Guard estimated that 60,000 people were taking shelter in the Dome.

4:42 P.M. - (AP) Electric companies from around the country are rushing crews to the hurricane-ravaged South. They will help restore power to an area so devastated that it could be weeks or even months before the lights come back on in many places. David Botkins, a spokesman for Dominion Virginia Power, says 200 workers are headed to Louisiana and Mississippi.

4:40 P.M. - (AP) State officials say they are working on plans to evaucate inmates from the Orleans Parish prison and the Jefferson Parish jail. Both facilities face a threat of flooding. The state Corrections Department is trying to figure out how to transfer 4,000 inmates from the New Orleans jail and another 1,000 from the Jefferson Parish jail in Gretna. The inmates would be moved to state prisons including the highest-security at Angola.

4:23 P.M. - Jefferson Parish officials say schools could reopen two months after Labor Day.

 
Wrote a check for $2000 to the Red Cross this morning. Gave $500 to the tsunamis.
Thank you Mr. Ham. I evacuated from Uptown New Orleans Sunday afternoon. The city is devastated and so many people have no real means to pull themselves back up. I'm fortunate enough to have a family to help me in the short term until I can get it together. Generosity like this will be needed for those less fortunate than myself. Hopefully I'll be able to make donations soon as well. Again, thank you.
 
On a related note, I just tried calling my friend from Slidell via his cell phone. Got a reply that due to the hurricane, no calls are being accepted for his area code. There still have been no reports on Slidell, and I didn't hear whether he evacuated or not. He just graduated from college a year or so ago, got married, and JUST bought a new house, and he was spending the entire summer fixing it up, installing carpet, making it a nice home. I can't imagine what it'd be like to lose all that work and money, but more importantly I hope he and his whole family got out of town.
As far as I know, all cell comms are down. I was able to get through very briefly to my parents in Bridge City and received word that "everything's fine" before we were cut off. About an hour or so later, I got a call from them (missed it due to class :hot: ) that they are doing fine and have plenty of food and water. Their generator is running fine and they are "glad they didn't leave." :loco: Anyway, try him via a landline and you might get through.

 
http://www.wlbt.com/

Unbelievable chopper footage of the Miss. coast. Click the link at the top. There are casino boats in the middle of downtown Gulfport. Huge containers (that look like railcars) from the shipyards tossed all over residential areas.

Looks like something from an apocalyptic movie.
Incredible footage. The damage is stunning. Aren't those casinos a major part of the economy there? To see that one laying on the Holiday Inn was something. They have a herculean recovery effort in front of them.
 
I haven't seen anything, might just not have caught it, but was there any damage to Baton Rouge?

OK, I expected Slidell to be questionable, but I can't even get calls through to BR. Crikey. Not even gonna TRY N.O.
I've gotten cell calls from both of my brothers today, who fled to BR. They said that you just have to keep trying to get through - it takes a few times.
 
I haven't seen anything, might just not have caught it, but was there any damage to Baton Rouge?

OK, I expected Slidell to be questionable, but I can't even get calls through to BR. Crikey. Not even gonna TRY N.O.
Slidell got hit very hard. Nothing like New Orleans as far as continued flooding, but numerous subdivisions were completely destroyed.
 
Officials try to shore 17th Street Canal break

Tuesday, 5 p.m.

Terry Ebbert, director of homeland security for New Orleans, said a helicopter dropped 3,000 lbs. of specially designed sandbags on the breach at the 17th Street Canal, which is responsible for massive flooding in the region.

It was unclear what effect the effort had.

Closing levee breaches top priority

The Army Corps of Engineers was focused Tuesday on finding a way to close the levee breaches in the Industrial Canal and 17th Street Canal that have let waters pour into New Orleans, state officials said.

Col. Jeff Smith with the Louisiana National Guard said the Corps has informed the state that they are beginning to plan how exactly to fill the holes in the levee, which observers described as several hundred feet long.

Entergy outages: 1.1 million customers in La., Miss.

Tuesday, 5:19 p.m.

This is a news release from Entergy.

New Orleans, La. – Entergy today is beginning the process of assessing the extraordinary damage to its electrical system in Louisiana and Mississippi caused by Hurricane Katrina, the worst storm in Entergy's history.Company officials said crews could take several days to fully assess the damage, and it expects a long and difficult restoration process due to the scope and amount of damage to its electrical system.As of 5 a.m. today, Entergy’s electrical power outages from Hurricane Katrina peaked at nearly 1.1 million homes and businesses, with some 790,000 in Louisiana and more than 300,000 in Mississippi without power.

 
And have the plugged the ####### breaches in the levees yet?
I think you're underestimating how hard that is to do.
Yep. The amount of water flowing through broken levees is usually pretty impressive, and is really enough to push those sandbags like pebbles.I've seen smaller scale breaks here in NoCal, but obviously not on this scale. But these are not just things you can slap a patch on. As quickly as you can try to fill the gap, the erosion by the water is pulling the gap open even wider just as quickly.

 
And have the plugged the ####### breaches in the levees yet?
I think you're underestimating how hard that is to do.
Heard a report that one is as wide as a football field but nothing about how deep it went. That will likely take a bit to fill with sandbags regardless of size.
The hardest part is the fact that water is continuing to pour through it. Try to put a partial blockage there and the mass flow rate through the levee will be enough to just wash it away. We're talking about enough water to cause a one foot per hour depth change over the entire city. That's a ####load of water pouring through only 100' of hole.
 
We're talking about enough water to cause a one foot per hour depth change over the entire city.
That doesn't sound right, but I thought I heard that earlier. How quickly is the water rising? What's the figure on that?
 
Well one report had a sunny forecast from some guy at FEMA (or a similar local agency) saying that they'd have it sandbagged in "a few hours". I hope he had some idea of what he was talking about.

 
And have the plugged the ####### breaches in the levees yet?
I think you're underestimating how hard that is to do.
Yep. The amount of water flowing through broken levees is usually pretty impressive, and is really enough to push those sandbags like pebbles.I've seen smaller scale breaks here in NoCal, but obviously not on this scale. But these are not just things you can slap a patch on. As quickly as you can try to fill the gap, the erosion by the water is pulling the gap open even wider just as quickly.
Right. I worked in conjuction with Nordic Industries on the 1997 levee repairs in NorCal. Basically, they have to wait until the water levels equalize before they can even start. Thousand pound rocks get pushed around like sand. I imagine that tidal flows complicate that situation even more.
 
Officials try to shore 17th Street Canal break

Tuesday, 5 p.m.

Terry Ebbert, director of homeland security for New Orleans, said a helicopter dropped 3,000 lbs. of specially designed sandbags on the breach at the 17th Street Canal, which is responsible for massive flooding in the region.

It was unclear what effect the effort had.
How does this happen? How do you get an update like this? "Massive amounts of water are flowing into the city. We attempted to drop 3,000 pounds of specially designed sandbags into place to stop the water from flowing into the city...that is all."

What the? Um, follow-up question there, Terry. DID IT WORK?!?!?!?!?

 
Officials try to shore 17th Street Canal break

Tuesday, 5 p.m.

Terry Ebbert, director of homeland security for New Orleans, said a helicopter dropped 3,000 lbs. of specially designed sandbags on the breach at the 17th Street Canal, which is responsible for massive flooding in the region.

It was unclear what effect the effort had.
How does this happen? How do you get an update like this? "Massive amounts of water are flowing into the city. We attempted to drop 3,000 pounds of specially designed sandbags into place to stop the water from flowing into the city...that is all."

What the? Um, follow-up question there, Terry. DID IT WORK?!?!?!?!?
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/or

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html

 
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All of this is just too unreal. I can't believe the devestation. I just watched that video clip of Gulfport. Crazy.Please stay safe everyone. :(

 
We're talking about enough water to cause a one foot per hour depth change over the entire city.
That doesn't sound right, but I thought I heard that earlier. How quickly is the water rising? What's the figure on that?
If I remember correctly, there are four breaks altogether. Two yesterday, and two more this morning. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I lived in Picayune, MS for 6 years and still have good friends there. The eye went directly over the city, and none of my family can get in touch with anyone in the city, landline or cell. Has anyone heard anything about Picayune? Can't find ANY information on the city anywhere.

 
This is insane. Between 9/11 and this, my generation is slowly catching up to some of the nightmarish things you guys saw as children with JFK and the Cuban Missle Crisis.

 
This is insane. Between 9/11 and this, my generation is slowly catching up to some of the nightmarish things you guys saw as children with JFK and the Cuban Missle Crisis.
You guys? :no: I'm only 27. :lmao:
 
This is insane. Between 9/11 and this, my generation is slowly catching up to some of the nightmarish things you guys saw as children with JFK and the Cuban Missle Crisis.
We're just getting warmed up, Bubba.
 
And have the plugged the ####### breaches in the levees yet?
I think you're underestimating how hard that is to do.
Heard a report that one is as wide as a football field but nothing about how deep it went. That will likely take a bit to fill with sandbags regardless of size.
The hardest part is the fact that water is continuing to pour through it. Try to put a partial blockage there and the mass flow rate through the levee will be enough to just wash it away. We're talking about enough water to cause a one foot per hour depth change over the entire city. That's a ####load of water pouring through only 100' of hole.
Atta boy. Now we're sounding beaverish.
 
On CNN they were reading from some guy's blog in New Orleans. He apparently went to his office and was posting from there. Anyone hear this? Sounded interesting...

 
On CNN they were reading from some guy's blog in New Orleans. He apparently went to his office and was posting from there. Anyone hear this? Sounded interesting...
Wow. Those guys at CNN sure are good newsmen.
 
On CNN they were reading from some guy's blog in New Orleans. He apparently went to his office and was posting from there. Anyone hear this? Sounded interesting...
I heard that as well. Wish they would have said the site, would have been interesting to read all of it instead of just what they wanted to tell.
 
HOLY ####

ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 12-15 FEET OF WATER ARE EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK

LINK

 
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HOLY ####

ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 12-15 FEET OF WATER ARE EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK

LINK
:( GB those people. Good luck getting out.

 
HOLY ####

ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 12-15 FEET OF WATER ARE EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK

LINK
:( GB those people. Good luck getting out.
Not looking good
 
HOLY ####

ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 12-15 FEET OF WATER ARE EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK

LINK
Oh god. :( Edit -

****ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 9 FEET OF WATER IS EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK. WITHIN THE NEXT 12-15 HOURS****

A pretty thin comfort, but they're predicting 9 instead of 12-15 feet of water.

 
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HOLY ####

ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 12-15 FEET OF WATER ARE EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK

LINK
Oh god. :( Edit -

****ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 9 FEET OF WATER IS EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK. WITHIN THE NEXT 12-15 HOURS****

A pretty thin comfort, but they're predicting 9 instead of 12-15 feet of water.
Just saw that. 9 is better than 12, but still.....
 
The officials seem to be doing the best thing right now - get everyone they can the f out, and wait until the breached levees reach an equilibrium with the water, and then go in and start repairing. Nothing else is going to happen until the levees get repaired, and you cannot repair a levee while water is still moving/rising.

Get out, wait, figure out where to start. Sad state of affairs when that's the best option.

 
The officials seem to be doing the best thing right now - get everyone they can the f out, and wait until the breached levees reach an equilibrium with the water, and then go in and start repairing. Nothing else is going to happen until the levees get repaired, and you cannot repair a levee while water is still moving/rising.

Get out, wait, figure out where to start. Sad state of affairs when that's the best option.
agreed. It's a damn shame about all these people who were too ignorant to not leave. Resources are being wasted on them instead of the people who really had no choice.
 
HOLY ####

ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 12-15 FEET OF WATER ARE EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK

LINK
Oh god. :( Edit -

****ALL RESIDENTS ON THE EAST BANK OF ORLEANS AND JEFFERSON REMAINING IN THE METRO AREA ARE BEING TOLD TO EVACUATE AS EFFORTS TO SANDBAG THE LEVEE BREAK HAVE ENDED. THE PUMPS IN THAT AREA ARE EXPECTED TO FAIL SOON AND 9 FEET OF WATER IS EXPECTED IN THE ENTIRE EAST BANK. WITHIN THE NEXT 12-15 HOURS****

A pretty thin comfort, but they're predicting 9 instead of 12-15 feet of water.
What a nightmare. A friend of mine lost his house from the flooding caused by Hurricane Floyd here in NC a few years ago. He lived a hour 1/2 from the coast, but the Rivers overflowed from all the rain. Sending hope, prayers, and safety out for those in LA, MS, and Alabama.
 
WP said an interesting thing... NO can only pump 1 in of water out per hour.
Yep, and sans levees, they can't pump any because there's nowhere to put it. By my understanding (based on my reading - never been to NO), that's why the "doomsday scenario" always hinged on the levee between NO and Lake Pontchartrain breaking. If that levee holds, then you can pump the water somewhere. Once that levee goes, though, there isn't anywhere to pump the water until the levee gets fixed. :shrug:
 
WP said an interesting thing... NO can only pump 1 in of water out per hour.
2 feet of water a day? I would say that's great if they can really do that.
US Army Corps of Engineers interview on CNN said if everything was operational and under optimal conditions they can pump 1 foot a day out of NO.
 

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