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This is the time for city council folks to be political giants and insist on standards. New can be quaint too. New plumbing and sewer systems don't have to have tacky buildings attached to them.I really hope when it get's rebuilt that they don't turn it into Las Vegas 2.
I remember going there as a kid every few years when I was between 6 and 12 years old. My grandfather would get shrimp, crawfish and live crabs and boil them up and cover the kitchen table with newspaper and would teach me how to pick crabs, pinch tails and peel shrimp...Its where I developed my taste for all seafood. My grandmother made beans and rice and gumbo every week, and we ate breakfast, dinner and supper, NOT breakfast, lunch and dinner. Went to the Superdome to see Archie Manning lead the Saints to a loss at the hands of my then home-team, the LA Rams. Took a riverboat ride at dusk down the mighty Mississip.....Man I have alot of great memories of that city as a kid, and I have great memories from going there as an adult and really getting to see what the city has to offer. They had the best food, music, and partying any city has to offer.Sorry for the trip down memory lane, but it felt good to rehash some good times I had in the city. New Orleans will always be a special place to me, no matter what happens and how it turns out. I just hope the loss of life is kept to a minimum, as almost all hope of salvaging anything more seems all but gone.April is a great time to go too. I've been there four times....lost a lot of brain cells in the French Quarter and in Metaire.
I remember going there as a kid every few years when I was between 6 and 12 years old. My grandfather would get shrimp, crawfish and live crabs and boil them up and cover the kitchen table with newspaper and would teach me how to pick crabs, pinch tails and peel shrimp...Its where I developed my taste for all seafood. My grandmother made beans and rice and gumbo every week, and we ate breakfast, dinner and supper, NOT breakfast, lunch and dinner. Went to the Superdome to see Archie Manning lead the Saints to a loss at the hands of my then home-team, the LA Rams. Took a riverboat ride at dusk down the mighty Mississip.....Man I have alot of great memories of that city as a kid, and I have great memories from going there as an adult and really getting to see what the city has to offer. They had the best food, music, and partying any city has to offer.Sorry for the trip down memory lane, but it felt good to rehash some good times I had in the city. New Orleans will always be a special place to me, no matter what happens and how it turns out. I just hope the loss of life is kept to a minimum, as almost all hope of salvaging anything more seems all but gone.April is a great time to go too. I've been there four times....lost a lot of brain cells in the French Quarter and in Metaire.
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If there is one thing that is 100% positive - it's that the new orelans people won't let their culture die. I promise you that.
With you 100%...hang tough all those in harms way and our prayers are with youl.I remember going there as a kid every few years when I was between 6 and 12 years old. My grandfather would get shrimp, crawfish and live crabs and boil them up and cover the kitchen table with newspaper and would teach me how to pick crabs, pinch tails and peel shrimp...Its where I developed my taste for all seafood. My grandmother made beans and rice and gumbo every week, and we ate breakfast, dinner and supper, NOT breakfast, lunch and dinner. Went to the Superdome to see Archie Manning lead the Saints to a loss at the hands of my then home-team, the LA Rams. Took a riverboat ride at dusk down the mighty Mississip.....Man I have alot of great memories of that city as a kid, and I have great memories from going there as an adult and really getting to see what the city has to offer. They had the best food, music, and partying any city has to offer.Sorry for the trip down memory lane, but it felt good to rehash some good times I had in the city. New Orleans will always be a special place to me, no matter what happens and how it turns out. I just hope the loss of life is kept to a minimum, as almost all hope of salvaging anything more seems all but gone.April is a great time to go too. I've been there four times....lost a lot of brain cells in the French Quarter and in Metaire.
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Good thing is that hurricanes can't touch your New Orleans. Will continue to exist as long as you want it to.I remember going there as a kid every few years when I was between 6 and 12 years old. My grandfather would get shrimp, crawfish and live crabs and boil them up and cover the kitchen table with newspaper and would teach me how to pick crabs, pinch tails and peel shrimp...Its where I developed my taste for all seafood. My grandmother made beans and rice and gumbo every week, and we ate breakfast, dinner and supper, NOT breakfast, lunch and dinner. Went to the Superdome to see Archie Manning lead the Saints to a loss at the hands of my then home-team, the LA Rams. Took a riverboat ride at dusk down the mighty Mississip.....Man I have alot of great memories of that city as a kid, and I have great memories from going there as an adult and really getting to see what the city has to offer. They had the best food, music, and partying any city has to offer.Sorry for the trip down memory lane, but it felt good to rehash some good times I had in the city. New Orleans will always be a special place to me, no matter what happens and how it turns out. I just hope the loss of life is kept to a minimum, as almost all hope of salvaging anything more seems all but gone.April is a great time to go too. I've been there four times....lost a lot of brain cells in the French Quarter and in Metaire.
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TIA
Thank you for that - I've lived in NOLA for the last 12 years. In the last 4 or 5 I finally got it. There's no place like it, and I fear it will never be the same. Frankly, I don't expect most people to "get" what New Orleans was about, because you sorta have to live here a while and soak up the food, music, architecture, history, and vibe. And I'm not being elitist about the new orleans thing.I dunno, I guess I'm in shock - I doubt I'll have the opportunity to go back and get some of my "prized possessions" from my abandoned apartment, including some pets that I was simply unable gather up when it was time to head out. And, adding to the uncertainty and sick-stomach-feeling, I can't establish whether certain friends and co-workers got out of town in a timely manner. Ugh.
Gee, why not just call the relatives if you're worried? Just an FYI, there is info out there regarding the hurricane path through more northerly locales. I've seen it on television in TN. Google is your pal. But the cellphone may give you the info you seek more quickly. The very difficult situation I am facing is that cellphone lines in the New Orleans area are overwhelmed right now. I'd expect that is the case for the most of the Gulf coast right now. Maybe this is not the case in more northerly locales.Anyone in the Tupelo MS area, or anyone seen any news about the area? I know most of the devastation and news coverage was down on the coast, and anywhere north of there got "sloppy seconds", but I would imagine there was still a lot of wind and rain there as well.
My wife has family there, but isn't too concerned or she'd have been on the phone by now. Or should she start dialing?
TIA
OK, so it's not just me that took that long. I was thinkin' I'd have to take some classes or somethin.'
What the hell would the loser get??
Their cars and homes have to be property or paid out by the insurance co. inside of 3 months I would think. I would worry that alot might not have comprehensive/collsion, but I have no idea what the laws are like in LA/MS as far as I know it might be required.An insurance expert said in general everyone in the area was reqd. by mort. companies to have insurance for this sort of problem. They should start settling claims as soon as they get in the area.
Definitely don't know for sure, but I would imagine a lot of the banks do give leeway here.Back in the 90's, Sacramento had some severe flooding, and the County was declared a Federal Disaster area. Because of that designation, two of my credit card companies sent me letters allowing me to miss a payment. I'm sure, at bare minimum, it will be the same here.
Realistically, even if car payments were repeatedly missed, there is no car to repossess. Banks will realize that repossession and mortgage foreclosures are rather fruitless - there is no asset to reclaim. Plus, at this point, the Louisiana courts might just shoot anybody being a jag about missed payments and seeking judicial relief against people with no assets. I know I would if I were a judge.Insurance should cover what is owed, assuming the people had insurance.
Why aren't there medications that are guaranteed 100% safe? Why aren't there planes that can take off, land, and fly in any weather with 100% reliability?Believe me, I am horrified and feel terrible for what is happening in NO and have all Southerners in my thoughts.
Please don't take offense to this question, and I haven't read anything other than recent posts, so don't bash me too bad if this has been discussed or you think I'm being callous. I don't mean to be.
I'm just wondering WHY, WHY IN THE WORLD would they build the levees to handle "only" a Cat 3 hurricane??? With the way the city is placed between the lake, the Miss., and the Gulf, wouldn't you build them to sustain a Cat 6?? (even if there is no such thing). Sure it may be in hindsight, but why wouldn't you ensure safety of the worst posible scenarios, especially when it's an entire city at stake? The original buidlers/planners/designers/budgeters of the levee system are at fault here, and when they do rebuild the city of NO, can someone please suggest modifying the current system to support a wrost case scenario?
Just venting and ranting. What's happening now could have been prevented, IMO.
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is this supposed to be a joke?
My wife and I were thinking the same sorts of things. What do they do with all of the "stuff" once they start cleaning up? All of those people that are currently homeless and are sitting on their roofs, or I-10 or at the Super Dome that have nowhere to go, what do they do? Where do you even begin a cleanup this big? It's amazing the planning that is going to have to go on over the next days, weeks, months and years ahead.-----Just got an update from FoxNews that they are moving the "refugees" from the SuperDome to Houston. Amazing.
I read an article that suggested preparing NO for something like Katrina, including rebuilding swampland that has since become part of the city (and thus further destabilizing) would cost at least $14 billion alone.Why aren't there medications that are guaranteed 100% safe? Why aren't there planes that can take off, land, and fly in any weather with 100% reliability?Believe me, I am horrified and feel terrible for what is happening in NO and have all Southerners in my thoughts.
Please don't take offense to this question, and I haven't read anything other than recent posts, so don't bash me too bad if this has been discussed or you think I'm being callous. I don't mean to be.
I'm just wondering WHY, WHY IN THE WORLD would they build the levees to handle "only" a Cat 3 hurricane??? With the way the city is placed between the lake, the Miss., and the Gulf, wouldn't you build them to sustain a Cat 6?? (even if there is no such thing). Sure it may be in hindsight, but why wouldn't you ensure safety of the worst posible scenarios, especially when it's an entire city at stake? The original buidlers/planners/designers/budgeters of the levee system are at fault here, and when they do rebuild the city of NO, can someone please suggest modifying the current system to support a wrost case scenario?
Just venting and ranting. What's happening now could have been prevented, IMO.
Why aren't there cars that are 100% safe?
Why aren't there gigantic concrete walls that just repel the storm surge?
Same thing with the levee/dyke system. It would take decades of planning and billions of dollars to build something like you describe, if it's possible at all - did you see where ENTIRE buildings were uprooted and moved hundreds of yards in Biloxi? Hindsight is always 20/20, and it's easy to say today that they should have done more. However, consider the cost and the feasibility of building some of the things you describe. Many places in Japan thought they had build earthquake proof high rises and highways, until a major earthquake came along and knocked it all down. In that case, you've spent tens of billions of dollars to build something, and it still fails. If you think we can outbuild Mother Nature - especially the extremes of nature - I have a bridge to sell you.
I think at this point that is sort of nieve.The economic ramifications are tremendous here. The oil business will still be there, damaged or not. But that may be the only industry left. When do ya'll really think we will have tourist dollars again? Are any of the freshman class from Tulane & Loyola even going to consider coming back? How many residents have already, or are in the process of deciding if they ever come back other than for salvage?
I hate to admit how much i want those #######s to die. I'm supposed to be a liberal, but now I want them all to die somehow. The women cops filmed looting a WalMart should be publicly flogged...William Wallace style. Its bad enough worrying about damage, and now I can only picture some ahole stealing whats left of my house & restaurant. Of course, i would be pilfering bottles of wine & booze from the restaurant too...but I have keys.
Did we watch the same coverage? The eye wall passed within 40 miles of NO, and it was a cat 5 until just a few hours before it made land fall. The measured pressure Sunday afternoon was one of the 5 lowest pressures ever recorded for an Atlantic hurricane. True, it did veer at the last minute a weaken a little bit, but when you weaken just a little bit from one of the most intense hurricances ever recorded, you've still got a pretty effin brutal storm.
So sad to hear. This is totally unreal. At least you made it out safely. Best wishes to tipsy, Tiger Fan, and everyone else in New Orleans.I think at this point that is sort of nieve.The economic ramifications are tremendous here. The oil business will still be there, damaged or not. But that may be the only industry left. When do ya'll really think we will have tourist dollars again? Are any of the freshman class from Tulane & Loyola even going to consider coming back? How many residents have already, or are in the process of deciding if they ever come back other than for salvage?
The fishing industry is more than likely gone...all the shrimp boats, the oyster fisherman, etc lived in areas we haven't seen one photo from...I doubt anything near the mouth of the river even exisits anymore. The I-10 twinspan is just gone...no repair..will have to be a brand new bridge. The further puts us back at risk if we go back, not to mention what that will do to commerce.
The saints will be in San Antonio for the rest of the year, unless they can come back to play in Baton Rouge...but who will go? Forget about the Hornets..they are done in NO now.
The emotions are starting to get the best of all of my family. The wife & my mom broke down hard last night. My FIL is making plans to move his family to chicago. He has 2 homes in NO he is planning on trying to sell/abandon & hope FEMA helps out.
I am planning on staying here in Pensacola and taking it easy. There are no quick descions to be made here...I did that on Saturday by getting out ahead of the evac. traffic. We have discussed, and are probably becoming more & more resolved to not move back at this point. I know in my heart the restaurant is done. It will not make any sense to reopen at this point. It would take years to recover, and we just became profitable last year after 4 years of borrowing.
At this point, we will probably either stay in NO, move to ATL, or possibly even Chicago....... Unless Joe B. offers me a job. I'd be the perfect roving reporter traveling around the country meeting all the other FBG's and watching football for a living.
no, sorry. i mixed two completely different thoughts...1. NO is in bad shape. my heart goes out to them.
Cops looting Walmart? I think I saw the looting of the Walmart but it didn't look like anyone in uniform.
I agree that this pretty much guarantees the Saints end up in Los Angeles and that Big Oil will rebuild and continue to use the area as it makes too much geographic sense for them..However, the fishing industry will come back. We're talking about one of the oldest professions in the history of mankind and the one that routinely gets knocked around by things of this nature. It'll be back.I think at this point that is sort of nieve.The economic ramifications are tremendous here. The oil business will still be there, damaged or not. But that may be the only industry left. When do ya'll really think we will have tourist dollars again? Are any of the freshman class from Tulane & Loyola even going to consider coming back? How many residents have already, or are in the process of deciding if they ever come back other than for salvage?
The fishing industry is more than likely gone...all the shrimp boats, the oyster fisherman, etc lived in areas we haven't seen one photo from...I doubt anything near the mouth of the river even exisits anymore. The I-10 twinspan is just gone...no repair..will have to be a brand new bridge. The further puts us back at risk if we go back, not to mention what that will do to commerce.
The saints will be in San Antonio for the rest of the year, unless they can come back to play in Baton Rouge...but who will go? Forget about the Hornets..they are done in NO now.
The emotions are starting to get the best of all of my family. The wife & my mom broke down hard last night. My FIL is making plans to move his family to chicago. He has 2 homes in NO he is planning on trying to sell/abandon & hope FEMA helps out.
I am planning on staying here in Pensacola and taking it easy. There are no quick descions to be made here...I did that on Saturday by getting out ahead of the evac. traffic. We have discussed, and are probably becoming more & more resolved to not move back at this point. I know in my heart the restaurant is done. It will not make any sense to reopen at this point. It would take years to recover, and we just became profitable last year after 4 years of borrowing.
At this point, we will probably either stay in NO, move to ATL, or possibly even Chicago....... Unless Joe B. offers me a job. I'd be the perfect roving reporter traveling around the country meeting all the other FBG's and watching football for a living.
I think at this point that is sort of nieve.The economic ramifications are tremendous here. The oil business will still be there, damaged or not. But that may be the only industry left. When do ya'll really think we will have tourist dollars again? Are any of the freshman class from Tulane & Loyola even going to consider coming back? How many residents have already, or are in the process of deciding if they ever come back other than for salvage?
The fishing industry is more than likely gone...all the shrimp boats, the oyster fisherman, etc lived in areas we haven't seen one photo from...I doubt anything near the mouth of the river even exisits anymore. The I-10 twinspan is just gone...no repair..will have to be a brand new bridge. The further puts us back at risk if we go back, not to mention what that will do to commerce.
The saints will be in San Antonio for the rest of the year, unless they can come back to play in Baton Rouge...but who will go? Forget about the Hornets..they are done in NO now.
The emotions are starting to get the best of all of my family. The wife & my mom broke down hard last night. My FIL is making plans to move his family to chicago. He has 2 homes in NO he is planning on trying to sell/abandon & hope FEMA helps out.
I am planning on staying here in Pensacola and taking it easy. There are no quick descions to be made here...I did that on Saturday by getting out ahead of the evac. traffic. We have discussed, and are probably becoming more & more resolved to not move back at this point. I know in my heart the restaurant is done. It will not make any sense to reopen at this point. It would take years to recover, and we just became profitable last year after 4 years of borrowing.
At this point, we will probably either stay in NO, move to ATL, or possibly even Chicago....... Unless Joe B. offers me a job. I'd be the perfect roving reporter traveling around the country meeting all the other FBG's and watching football for a living.
Tiipsy,My thoughts are with you during this terrible time. I think it is great that you are taking some time and not making quick decisions.
Maybe...Pensacola needs better food... :foodsnob:I agree that this pretty much guarantees the Saints end up in Los Angeles and that Big Oil will rebuild and continue to use the area as it makes too much geographic sense for them..However, the fishing industry will come back. We're talking about one of the oldest professions in the history of mankind and the one that routinely gets knocked around by things of this nature. It'll be back.I think at this point that is sort of nieve.The economic ramifications are tremendous here. The oil business will still be there, damaged or not. But that may be the only industry left. When do ya'll really think we will have tourist dollars again? Are any of the freshman class from Tulane & Loyola even going to consider coming back? How many residents have already, or are in the process of deciding if they ever come back other than for salvage?
The fishing industry is more than likely gone...all the shrimp boats, the oyster fisherman, etc lived in areas we haven't seen one photo from...I doubt anything near the mouth of the river even exisits anymore. The I-10 twinspan is just gone...no repair..will have to be a brand new bridge. The further puts us back at risk if we go back, not to mention what that will do to commerce.
The saints will be in San Antonio for the rest of the year, unless they can come back to play in Baton Rouge...but who will go? Forget about the Hornets..they are done in NO now.
The emotions are starting to get the best of all of my family. The wife & my mom broke down hard last night. My FIL is making plans to move his family to chicago. He has 2 homes in NO he is planning on trying to sell/abandon & hope FEMA helps out.
I am planning on staying here in Pensacola and taking it easy. There are no quick descions to be made here...I did that on Saturday by getting out ahead of the evac. traffic. We have discussed, and are probably becoming more & more resolved to not move back at this point. I know in my heart the restaurant is done. It will not make any sense to reopen at this point. It would take years to recover, and we just became profitable last year after 4 years of borrowing.
At this point, we will probably either stay in NO, move to ATL, or possibly even Chicago....... Unless Joe B. offers me a job. I'd be the perfect roving reporter traveling around the country meeting all the other FBG's and watching football for a living.
Sucks about your restaurant. Are there plans from the SBA to step in and help small businesses in the area?
Even if you decide to move, look on the bright side and try and use it for an opportunity for you. Maybe you can start your own restaurant somewhere now.
2 big fat ladies in NOPD uniforms. they had "no comment". But they have their faces on camera. Beeyatchs.Cops looting Walmart? I think I saw the looting of the Walmart but it didn't look like anyone in uniform.
Well, if you consider how many decades NO went without having anything this catastrophic happen to it you'll realize that the odds were against it. It took a pretty special storm to cause this amount of damage, and imo a Cat 4 hurricane is a really strong storm...just look at how much of the US it's affected with rain and high winds...up in the NE states now I think. Also heard on the weather channel from Joe Bastardi (love the name) that as the system moves further north up to the NE states, it will produce an area of high pressure up there, which will make it more likely that down in the gulf there would be an area of low pressure, where something like this can spring up in the gulf itself again. I have a lot of respect for those weather people and if he says there's a good possibility of that, especially considering they say most of the storms are yet to come, I'm listening. Hope it doesn't come to pass but those dudes know their stuff.
I havent felt sadness like this in a long, long time. Years.
