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[Judge Smails]

Now it's down to Shields and ?. KC running attack has gelled the past month, but with Waters down this week what's the likelihood that LJ can go off at Miami?

 

[Gr00vus]

Geez Judge, I hope you have a lifetime supply of Pepto, you sure like to worry about LJ quite a bit.

Maybe he only gets 100 yards combined this week with 1 td. But you never know when one of those 200 yard 4 td days is going to happen - even when it seems like it won't.

What are you going to do - sit him?



Relax Judge and leave the driving to LJ, he really does play like a man among boys.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Well, look at this from the point BW went down vs. STL

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3-3-STL7 (4:16) L.Johnson left guard to SL 4 for 3 yards (J.Kennedy). KC-B.Waters was injured during the play.

1-4-STL4 (3:44) L.Johnson left tackle to SL 4 for no gain (J.Kennedy).

2-4-STL4 (3:03) L.Johnson right guard to SL 1 for 3 yards (V.Adeyanju).

3-1-STL1 (2:20) L.Johnson left tackle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.

L.Tynes extra point is GOOD, Center-K.Gammon, Holder-D.Colquitt.

KC 7 STL 0, Plays: 6 Yards: 14 Possession: 3:16.

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Kansas City Chiefs at 13:23

1-10-STL46 (13:23) D.Huard pass deep left to S.Parker to SL 3 for 43 yards (F.Brown).

1-3-STL3 (12:39) D.Huard pass short left to T.Gonzalez for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

L.Tynes extra point is GOOD, Center-K.Gammon, Holder-D.Colquitt.

KC 14 STL 0, Plays: 2 Yards: 46 Possession: 0:50.

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Kansas City Chiefs at 11:45

1-10-STL33 (11:45) D.Huard pass incomplete deep left to E.Kennison.

2-10-STL33 (11:39) D.Huard sacked at SL 40 for -7 yards (L.Little).

3-17-STL40 (11:04) (Shotgun) L.Johnson up the middle to SL 24 for 16 yards (C.Chavous). SL-J.Carter was injured during the play.

4-1-STL24 (10:29) L.Tynes 42 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-K.Gammon, Holder-D.Colquitt.

KC 17 STL 0, Plays: 4 Yards: 9 Possession: 1:23.

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Kansas City Chiefs at 03:09

1-10-KC20 (3:09) L.Johnson left end to KC 21 for 1 yard (B.Chillar).

2-9-KC21 (2:32) L.Johnson left tackle to KC 26 for 5 yards (J.Fisk).

3-4-KC26 (2:24) D.Huard pass short left to E.Kennison to KC 40 for 14 yards (T.Hill).

1-10-KC40 (2:00) L.Johnson left end to KC 49 for 9 yards (W.Witherspoon).

2-1-KC49 (1:25) (Shotgun) L.Johnson up the middle to SL 36 for 15 yards (T.Hill).

1-10-STL36 (1:17) D.Huard pass short right to T.Gonzalez to SL 25 for 11 yards (C.Chavous).

1-10-STL25 58) D.Huard pass incomplete deep right to E.Kennison.

2-10-STL25 54) D.Huard pass deep middle to T.Gonzalez for 25 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

L.Tynes extra point is GOOD, Center-K.Gammon, Holder-D.Colquitt.

KC 24 STL 7, Plays: 8 Yards: 80 Possession: 2:21.

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Other runs of note after that

2-20-KC20 (11:14) L.Johnson up the middle to KC 30 for 10 yards (C.Chavous).

1-10-KC35 (9:27) L.Johnson right tackle to SL 49 for 16 yards (O.Atogwe).--- PENALTY on SL-O.Atogwe, Face Mask (5 Yards), 5 yards, enforced at SL 49.

1-10-STL44 (9:20) L.Johnson left tackle to SL 29 for 15 yards (F.Brown).

All told I count up 21 carries for 113 yards AFTER Waters got injured.

 

[The Jacket]

It will be tougher than it has been, that's for sure. The line is now starting Jordan "I-65" Black, Chris "stinks" Bober, Casey Wiegmann, Will Shields and either a gimpy Kevin Sampson or a roided up John Welbourn. Kyle Turley can rotate in at either tackle spot but is hardly Willie Roaf.

Basically, it's in shambles. The majority of LJ's yards will be LJ's doing. People have b*tched about Tomlinson's supporting cast for his career but he never ran behind a line this bad.

 

[Gr00vus]

It will be tougher than it has been, that's for sure. The line is now starting Jordan "I-65" Black, Chris "stinks" Bober, Casey Wiegmann, Will Shields and either a gimpy Kevin Sampson or a roided up John Welbourn. Kyle Turley can rotate in at either tackle spot but is hardly Willie Roaf.Basically, it's in shambles. The majority of LJ's yards will be LJ's doing. People have b*tched about Tomlinson's supporting cast for his career but he never ran behind a line this bad.

The Charger lines in 2001 and 2003 were unquestionably much worse than anything LJ has had to deal with.

 

[diesel7982]

Waters' injury isnt the biggest deal, but Im sure on Monday we'll see alot of people incorrectly attributing it to LJ's bad game, rather than playing against an improving Dolphins defense.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Is LJ a stud...

Is LJ hurt...

Is LJ going to start for you...

 

[EdwardCat]

It will be tougher than it has been, that's for sure. The line is now starting Jordan "I-65" Black, Chris "stinks" Bober, Casey Wiegmann, Will Shields and either a gimpy Kevin Sampson or a roided up John Welbourn. Kyle Turley can rotate in at either tackle spot but is hardly Willie Roaf.Basically, it's in shambles. The majority of LJ's yards will be LJ's doing. People have b*tched about Tomlinson's supporting cast for his career but he never ran behind a line this bad.

Wow, you really don't know anything about the start of LT's career. As stated a few posts up, he had to run behind one of the worst lines in the history of the game.

 

[HULLOBUDMAN]

Is Bober going to start in Waters place? Is there a chance Welborn, Turley or Terry get moved to G?

 

[Judge Smails]

Waters' injury isnt the biggest deal, but Im sure on Monday we'll see alot of people incorrectly attributing it to LJ's bad game, rather than playing against an improving Dolphins defense.

You may be right. I think Miami will be pumped up for this one. LJ will get stuffed several times. I'm hoping he busts a long one or gets active in the passing game..But he won't be busting them at 10-15 a clip..

 

[shadow2k]

Is Bober going to start in Waters place? Is there a chance Welborn, Turley or Terry get moved to G?

From Herm's presser today:

Q: How you gonna line-up on the offensive line this week? Bober in Waters’ spot? Turley at right tackle?

EDWARDS: “Uh…..we’ll see.”

Q: You playing a Nick Saban and not going to tell us?

EDWARDS: “No, I’m saying it in front of everybody in the world who will listen. (points to TV cameras.) We’ll have five guys. It’ll be OK. Five starters.”

Q: So you’re undecided at this point?

EDWARDS: “I would never not want to tell you. But you see all those cameras? Even the president can listen to this. But he’s got his own problems, bigger than mine believe me. But he does a good job for the most part.”

Q: Would you anticipate Welbourn will play?

EDWARDS: “Oh yeah, we expect that.”

Q: You gonna get Terry involved?

EDWARDS: “We’re talking about that a little bit. We’ll see. But we can only activate seven of them, so that’s going to be the problem. When you have guys at other positions nicked you can’t dress eight offensive linemen.”

I honestly don't know. Black is a better G than T. Turley...not sure how healthy he is. Welbourn was out all year and missed all of TC, so he's probably behind by quite a bit. I think it may kind of depend on the long term status of Waters and how long he'll be out. If he's just out a couple games, then I'd bet on Bober playing G and Welbourn/Turley at RT. If it's expected to be longer, you could see Black shifted back inside, with Turley/Welbourn at the T's.

But without knowing the exact status of all these guys...I couldn't say for sure.

Either way, I think LJ has continued to prove that he'll produce regardless of what's in front of him. He's lost the HOF'r Willie Roaf, Trent Green, his OC, Tony Richardson, Welbourn...the starting RT from last year, both Waters and Shields were hurt during TC and didn't practice together... I mean, he's a guy I expect will produce regardless, as long as they aren't completely selling out to stop the run like a couple of teams have done to him this year...and even then, he was still either getting 100 combined yards or a TD in every game, if not both.

Worried about LJ? No. But less confident that he'll be blowing up for 175/3 TD's without Waters in there.

 

[The Jacket]

Tomlinson's line - RUN BLOCKING (only thing that matters, funnily enough) - was not as bad as the dogsh*t in front of Larry Johnson.

 

[EdwardCat]

Tomlinson's line - RUN BLOCKING (only thing that matters, funnily enough) - was not as bad as the dogsh*t in front of Larry Johnson.

 

[Gr00vus]

Tomlinson's line - RUN BLOCKING (only thing that matters, funnily enough) - was not as bad as the dogsh*t in front of Larry Johnson.

You're right - they were actually much worse than what Johnson has and has had. This is to take nothing away from Johnson, he's a monster to be sure, but it's time to stop this revisionist history. Most of the guys who blocked for Tomlinson those years are now out of the NFL (for good reason). You can look it up.