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Keiland Williams, RB WAS (1 Viewer)

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Caught 4 passes yesterday for 15 yards yesterday. With LJ looking horrific, could we see Williams start to see the field more behind Portis as the #2?

Doesn't appear to be that quick (think he ran a 4.6-4.7 40) be at 5-11 230 looks to be pretty a pretty imposing runner. Diamond in the rough or perennial backup?

 
Maybe it's a lack of options but Shanny sure seems to trust this guy. I mean...an undrafted free agent to be getting meaningful pass catching/blocking downs in a game like that says something. Portis can still be somewhat effective but he is getting by on guts and guile right now. Don't know if Keiland is the answer in the short and long term but there is no question he will get a bigger look at some point this year.

 
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He may be an undrafted free agent but he was one of the most highly ranked running backs in the nation as a senior in high school. LSU has so much talent at this position and at the WR position year after year that a lot of these guys just don't see the field very much. I would not be surprised at all if Williams had a pretty successful NFL career.

If Portis goes down, look for Keiland to be a fantasy steal. If you have room on your bench, he's worth stashing away IMO.

 
I own Portis in one league and have Williams stashed as his handcuff, not LJ.

Johnson is washed up and even though he may get first crack at the job, will not take it and run with it because he can't run anymore. Williams is the type of rookie, unheralded but hard runner Shannahan likes and he raved about Williams ability to come in and understand the offense and the pass protections this preseason.

If you own Portis, and have room, you should have Williams stashed.

 
Yeah, LJ tried making a Pop Warner-type move that resulted in a loss of 10 yards yesterday. After that play, Keiland started getting into the game more. If Portis were to go down, I think Keiland would be the play.

 
Keiland is the proverbial Shanny diamond in the rough who's the RB of the future given that it could well be both Portis' and LJ's last year in D.C. I'm surprised at how fast it's happening, but LJ's showing he just doesn't have it and KW is getting into the lineup more and more. He's definitely a guy to watch and a guy to stash right now if you have the roster space, especially in dynasty.

 
LJ looks like he's running in slow motion. I guess the question I have to ask is how bad did FWP have to be to lose a roster spot to LJ?

Regardless, I agree, Keiland is the handcuff for Portis, though I don't see him having much value. I could eat those words, but still...

 
http://blogs.rotoworld.com/Fantasy_Footbal..._worth_a_st.php

Keiland Williams?

You don't have to look far to find undrafted running backs that end up making a fantasy impact. Could Williams become the next? The odds are very long. But could he possibly get the opportunity? Sure, and that's why he's worth stashing if you have room on your roster.

If you've watched any of the Redskins' first two games, it's become abundantly clear that Clinton Ports and Larry Johnson simply have very little left in the tank. Portis has averaged 3.1 YPC on 31 totes, while Johnson has averaged 0.4 YPC on five carries. In Week 2, LJ was removed from the game in the first series of the fourth quarter after running for a 10-yard loss. With Portis nursing an injured wrist, he was replaced by Williams.

Although he didn't receive a carry after entering the game, Williams did catch four passes against the Texans. He could very easily usurp LJ as Portis' backup if the incumbent's play doesn't pick up (don't hold your breath on that one).

Portis is arguably the best blocking back in the league and is unlikely to lose his job for performance-related reasons. But he does have the wrist injury, and in 2006 and last year he missed half the season due to physical ailments, so it's not as if he's been a bastion of health.

Williams started only three games in college at LSU, but he was part of a crowded backfield and was quite productive when given a shot. He was also productive when given a shot in the Redskins' first preseason game, running for 51 yards and a pair of touchdowns on 11 carries.

Is it a longshot that he makes an impact? Sure. But if you're looking for possible upside down the road, Williams should be on your radar.

 
Reminds me of a guy who played for the Broncos about 2 years ago - started one game - and was in Redskins camp. In other words, just about every guy Shanahan coaches.

 
Changes coming to running back depth chart?

For all the accolades Donovan McNabb deservingly received for Sunday's performance, the Redskins' ground game left a lot to be desired. A whole lot, in fact.

One thing to keep an eye on in the days leading up to Sunday's game at St. Louis is the backfield depth chart.

After Larry Johnson tried sprinting around left end at the start of the fourth quarter - a 10-yard loss that effectively killed that possession and the team's ability to milk time off the clock - he was removed from the game. Keiland Williams played the next two downs and Clinton Portis handled the carries on the next possession. Williams was back for the Redskins' final drive of regulation and again made an appearance in overtime.

Johnson said Monday that he's still getting used to his reserve role.

"This is all new to me," said Johnson, who finished Sunday's game with minus-7 yards on a pair of carries, "coming from going out there and playing at least the first half, doing something to not doing anything in the first half to doing a little bit in the second half. It's tough."

As a group, the Redskins totaled 18 yards on 17 carries. Coaches are high on Williams and really liked his preseason work. We won't know until later in the week if the undrafted rookie starts cutting into Johnson's playing time.

In practice, Johnson said, Portis handles the most of the workload and Williams handles many third-down reps.

Running backs always talk about finding their rhythm, which is difficult to do when you spend most of the game on the sidelines. Johnson said when he was finally called off the bench, he was too eager to make a big play. The result was the 10-yard loss.

"I take that 10-yard loss on me," he said.

"That was really disappointing for the team to go in there and to go backward 10 yards at a very critical time in the fourth quarter. It's tough, but you just got to learn a little bit more, as far as when it's your turn, you get one chance or two chances to put your pride aside and do what's best for the team," he continued. "I just got caught up with trying to make a play at a crucial point in the game."

By Rick Maese | September 20, 2010; 2:30 PM ET

Categories: Running backs
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LJ is done. Him trying to pull a Marcus Allen sunday was one of the more ridiculous things I've seen in recent memory.

 
http://blogs.rotoworld.com/Fantasy_Footbal..._worth_a_st.php

If you've watched any of the Redskins' first two games, it's become abundantly clear that Clinton Ports and Larry Johnson simply have very little left in the tank.
If you've watched any of the Redskins' first two games, it's become abundantly clear that the OL isn't a good run blocking group right now and it doesn't help that the FB can't move anyone out of the way.Word is Kory Lichtensteiger might overtake Derrick Dockery at LG soon because he can move better and is a better fit for what Shanahan likes to do in the run game. If Trent Williams misses any time, that could lead to Stephon Heyer and that would not be good. Of course, they could move Hicks to tackle and play both Lichtensteiger and Dockery at guard. But, no matter how you slice it, this just isn't a good run blocking group right now.

If they can't create holes against St. Louis, it doesn't matter who the RB is the rest of the season.

 
Caught 4 passes yesterday for 15 yards yesterday. With LJ looking horrific, could we see Williams start to see the field more behind Portis as the #2?

Doesn't appear to be that quick (think he ran a 4.6-4.7 40) be at 5-11 230 looks to be pretty a pretty imposing runner. Diamond in the rough or perennial backup?
Where'd you get the 4.6-4.7 number?Scouting reports seem to differ.

"He's fast, nimble, and has that "second gear" that great running backs have."

--http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/4/27/1446360...ort-on-redskins

"While built like a downhill runner, he is light on his feet and has a good burst past second level defenders, along with the second gear to take the ball to the house "

--http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116454

"Williams can run in the 4.4s in the 40-yard-dash and his speed and change of direction ability make him a terror in the open field. "

--http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile...rospect_id=1748

 
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Caught 4 passes yesterday for 15 yards yesterday. With LJ looking horrific, could we see Williams start to see the field more behind Portis as the #2?

Doesn't appear to be that quick (think he ran a 4.6-4.7 40) be at 5-11 230 looks to be pretty a pretty imposing runner. Diamond in the rough or perennial backup?
Where'd you get the 4.6-4.7 number?Scouting reports seem to differ.

"He's fast, nimble, and has that "second gear" that great running backs have."

--http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/4/27/1446360...ort-on-redskins
Not sure I'd consider those writers as scouts. In the negatives, it says:
Keiland spent four years trying to run outside on everybody which you can't do in the SEC -- SEC linebackers are fast, too.
He has a "second gear that great running backs have" but he can't get to the outside in college, even if it is the great SEC?
"While built like a downhill runner, he is light on his feet and has a good burst past second level defenders, along with the second gear to take the ball to the house "

--http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116454
Not sure of the qualifications of this writer, but I'll point out that it says:
Negatives: More quick than fast, lacking the explosion to win many long distance foot races, but compensates by taking good angles and showing above average cutting ability to redirect when breaking to daylight...
 
Straight line speed is, at best, my fifth most important attribute for an RB, behind vision, balance, short area burst and lateral agility/quickness. I think Williams has some of these on a 230# frame. I spent a Rd 5 rookie pick on him b/c I think he has a good skill set for the one cut zone running system, the WAS depth chart presented some opportunity during camp and Shanahan RBs can be extremely successful. Since then, it's shaking out well for Williams. Torain is gone and LJ is affirming the negative reports from camp. I'm also encouraged and surprised by KW's third down work through two games.

FF (dynasty, especially) owners have paid a very low price to stash Williams. There's very little downside and a lot of upside, at a very low price to pay.

 
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Straight line speed is, at best, my fifth most important attribute for an RB, behind vision, balance, short area burst and lateral agility/quickness. I think Williams has some of these on a 230# frame. I spent a Rd 5 rookie pick on him b/c I think he has a good skill set for the one cut zone running system, the WAS depth chart presented some opportunity during camp and Shanahan RBs can be extremely successful. Since then, it's shaking out well for Williams. Torain is gone and LJ is affirming the negative reports from camp. I'm also encouraged and surprised by KW's third down work through two games.

FF (dynasty, especially) owners have paid a very low price to stash Williams. There's very little downside and a lot of upside, at a very low price to pay.
The bolded part is true. If the OP is talking dynasty it's too late anyway because he's likely been stashed already. I'm in 11 dynasty's and he's rostered in all of them.
 
Caught 4 passes yesterday for 15 yards yesterday. With LJ looking horrific, could we see Williams start to see the field more behind Portis as the #2?Doesn't appear to be that quick (think he ran a 4.6-4.7 40) be at 5-11 230 looks to be pretty a pretty imposing runner. Diamond in the rough or perennial backup?
Williams was a stud recruit to LSU that was never able to distinguish himself in college. He never had 600 total yards in a college season, so I wouldn't expect much as a pro.His value may have more to do with Shanahan's reputation for turning unheralded rbs into out-of-nowhere fantasy studs. On any other team he can justifiably be ignored...but any rb on a Shanahan coached team deserves a look.
 
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Caught 4 passes yesterday for 15 yards yesterday. With LJ looking horrific, could we see Williams start to see the field more behind Portis as the #2?Doesn't appear to be that quick (think he ran a 4.6-4.7 40) be at 5-11 230 looks to be pretty a pretty imposing runner. Diamond in the rough or perennial backup?
Williams was a stud recruit to LSU that was never able to distinguish himself in college. He never had 600 total yards in a college season, so I wouldn't expect much as a pro.
 
Caught 4 passes yesterday for 15 yards yesterday. With LJ looking horrific, could we see Williams start to see the field more behind Portis as the #2?

Doesn't appear to be that quick (think he ran a 4.6-4.7 40) be at 5-11 230 looks to be pretty a pretty imposing runner. Diamond in the rough or perennial backup?
Williams was a stud recruit to LSU that was never able to distinguish himself in college. He never had 600 total yards in a college season, so I wouldn't expect much as a pro.
You could be right, but I wouldn't base it on his college stats. Willie Parker only had a total of 1200 yards in 4 years (4.1 YPC), so that is not always a good barometer.
 
Caught 4 passes yesterday for 15 yards yesterday. With LJ looking horrific, could we see Williams start to see the field more behind Portis as the #2?Doesn't appear to be that quick (think he ran a 4.6-4.7 40) be at 5-11 230 looks to be pretty a pretty imposing runner. Diamond in the rough or perennial backup?
Williams was a stud recruit to LSU that was never able to distinguish himself in college. He never had 600 total yards in a college season, so I wouldn't expect much as a pro.His value may have more to do with Shanahan's reputation for turning unheralded rbs into out-of-nowhere fantasy studs. On any other team he can justifiably be ignored...but any rb on a Shanahan coached team deserves a look.
LSU had a pretty crowded backfield when Williams was there, so I don't think his inability to lock down the feature back role should held entirely against him.And I don't think it's just the Shanny effect with Keiland. He looks like the #2 back (due to LJ playing horribly) behind a 29 year old starting RB who has missed a number of games over the past few seasons. In many deeper leagues, that has value.
 
LSU signed 3 Rivals 100 running backs in the same class. Les Miles plays favorites and his favorite was Charles Scott. I wouldn't take anything from his lack of carries as Miles blows.

 
LSU had a pretty crowded backfield when Williams was there, so I don't think his inability to lock down the feature back role should held entirely against him.
:goodposting: People have to understand how LSU traditionally has handled it's ever-deep stable of RBs, going back at least as far as the mid-90s (Cecil Collins & Kevin Faulk). LSU never has one bellcow RB. Even a first-rounder like Joseph Addai was a part-time starter and had to share time with guys like fellow pro Jacob Hester, Justin Vincent, and Alley Broussard.
 
Is Williams worth the #1 waiver priority in a dynasty league? Is he likely to take over and run with the job?

What kind of #'s was he putting up in preseason?

 
Where would you guys rank him with respect to other backup RB's? I just don't have any sort of read on him. Certainly we aren't talking Stewart value here, but would you put him up there with RBBC guys like MBIII? Jacobs? Hightower going forward? Do you think he could get a shot at a 50/50 type split with Portis or would Portis have to go down with injury?

 
Are we picking this guy up in re-draft?gotta a #1 WW position i need to get hawky with.
You're showing your fins, hack.
Otis, why don't you use your almighty wisdom to put a value on this guys head for us instead of fishing for a response yourself? It's not like anyone is posting our teams/league settings/etc.Where do you rank this kid? :lol:
 
Not sure I'd consider those writers as scouts.
...and a lot of people here wouldn't be considered scouts, either. I don't understand your response. An unvalidated claim was made that Williams runs in 4.6-4.7. If so, that's important to know. Multiple writers, regardless of your take on their writing skills, believe otherwise. If you have more professional scouting reports on Williams, then by all means share them. If not, then we're left with whatever we can find by scouring the Internet--which, for undrafted free agents, isn't much. Here's another: http://louisianastate.scout.com/2/496856.html Says he was 4.32 at a combine in December 2006.

 
Are we picking this guy up in re-draft?gotta a #1 WW position i need to get hawky with.
You're showing your fins, hack.
Otis, why don't you use your almighty wisdom to put a value on this guys head for us instead of fishing for a response yourself? It's not like anyone is posting our teams/league settings/etc.Where do you rank this kid? :banned:
maybe true, but that was funny.is there going to be a new forum coming soon? maybe the hawk nest?
 
LSU homer here ...

and friends with a couple former LSU players

both guys said Williams was a beast in practice .. but never liked to get hit ....and if you watched LSU game through the years you know that .. very seldom would he ever lower the shoulder and he has D.McFadden issues with letting the " grass " tackle him ....

while i think he would be a good 3 'rd down Rb .. he seemed to be very good at swing pass's and wheel routes down the sideline .. cant see him being able to take 20 + carries a game

 
I just rostered the guy, and I think his only value is if Portis gets hurt to the extent where he misses games. CP may not be a fantasy force anymore, but this is his job. Williams is simply the other guy who gets a few touches a game, nothing more.

He'll get a shot (because Portis is heading down quickly).I agree with the above that he's soft for a bigger back. Still, all you need is a shot in the league to prove yourself.
 
LSU homer here ... and friends with a couple former LSU players both guys said Williams was a beast in practice .. but never liked to get hit ....and if you watched LSU game through the years you know that .. very seldom would he ever lower the shoulder and he has D.McFadden issues with letting the " grass " tackle him .... while i think he would be a good 3 'rd down Rb .. he seemed to be very good at swing pass's and wheel routes down the sideline .. cant see him being able to take 20 + carries a game
While I'm willing to admit it would prove him to have been short sighted and to have a terrible work ethic (during his college days), I am not willing to put it out of the realm of possibility that this changes now that he's basically auditioning for millions of dollars. Serious amounts of money and notoriety can have that affect on people.
 
Who would you rate higher going through the season John Kuhn or Keiland Williams?

Looks like Brandon Jackson is not going to cut it as a feature back...

Or do both teams look else where for better backup options?

 
I remember watching Keiland Williams when LSU would play, and always being much more scared of him than Charles Scott. I could never figure out why Keiland didn't get more PT and Scott got it.

When Keiland first came to LSU, I was sure he was going to be a beast.

 
Now that LJ is cut and he has moved to #2 on the depth chart, i think he is a must roster at this point. There is no way portis will make it through 16 games this year.....no shot.

 

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