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Keiland Williams, RB WAS (1 Viewer)

Max Power said:
Here is a Skins fan take on Williams... I thought it was a decent read.

Everyone is sleeping on K Williams. This is the guy who, later this season, people will be saying "I knew it all along. He's a classic Shanahan find. Number 2 back at LSU (so, "how good could he be?" Answer: plenty). 230 lbs, sub 4.5 speed, one cut runner (Shanahan prototype) with good hands and route running. They found out in pre-season that he likes to block too. That's why he beat out Torrain. Ryan can run very well in this offense, but Williams does that and everything else too.His problem in college was fumbles. If he does that here, he won't make it. And he fumbled at least once in preseason (got it back).The point is, the coaches have been watching him very closely. He's not screwing up and he looks good doing what he's asked. I think this is a classic case of Shanahan not offering any information through the press, and the press not noticing what's really happening. He's not number 2 now because they are desperate. He's there because he's shown nothing but "pretty damn good" since July. In preseason he was the clear choice over Torrain and Parker (both good but limited in versatility. In two games, he made LJ expendable (actually LJ made himself expendable). Now KW is going to carry the ball a few times in games. If he doesn't put it on the ground... watch out for this kid. I don't think Shanhan loves him yet, but if he keeps not screwing anything up, he'll get the chance to run a lot more very soon. My guess is that his young legs, and bruising frame will make him exactly the runner this offense is looking for. 3 yards, 5 yards, 8 yards, 1 yard... then in the 3rd quarter... boom! Long, defense-breaking runs. Just hang on to the ball, kid.
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This kid might be a sneaky start this week. If portis doesn't go he could easily put up 20.
The Rams' rush D allowed 40/173/0 to the Raiders last week, and coughed up 21/112/1 rushing to Arizona in week one (a 5.3 yards per carry average). Teams see this obvious weakness and attack the Rams' front seven with regularity.
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koonass said:
Keiland is a very talented back. The only reason he never played more at LSU was because the idiot Les Miles preferred guys like Jacob Hester and Charles Scott who were more 3 yds and a cloud of dust type plodding backs. Keilands lack of touches always mystified LSU fans, as he was by far the most talented rb at LSU during his 4 years. All he ever did was make plays when he got the chance.

Check this nice run as a soph. vs. VaTech.

K Williams 67 yd TD run
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Only LSU fans are videotaping the tv externally in 2007! :lmao:

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Does anyone have more info on Portis and whether he will go this weekend? Even if Portis does go, we know KW will get a few touches. We will have a lot more info after this week on this kid.

 
plyka said:
Does anyone have more info on Portis and whether he will go this weekend? Even if Portis does go, we know KW will get a few touches. We will have a lot more info after this week on this kid.
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True - and if Williams looks good he will already be rostered and ready to roll in most all leagues..........there were some leagues this week where it cost almost as much to FAAB him as it did Tolbert
 
plyka said:
Does anyone have more info on Portis and whether he will go this weekend? Even if Portis does go, we know KW will get a few touches. We will have a lot more info after this week on this kid.
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I am tempted to start him this week against STL with Portis banged up.
 
Derrick Fenner said:
The Ryan Torain signing proves that Keiland is only a 3rd down back. All aboard the Torain train! Choo Choo!
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Well no, it doesn't prove that. When Williams plays against the Rams it's more likely to be on some 1st or 2nd downs, since Portis is head-and-shoulders a better blocker (which is needed on 3rd downs).
 
plyka said:
Does anyone have more info on Portis and whether he will go this weekend? Even if Portis does go, we know KW will get a few touches. We will have a lot more info after this week on this kid.
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Portis has practiced all week and in my opinion will start.
 
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lfayard said:
Would anyone drop Forsett or Cadillac Williams to pick up this kid?
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I'd drop Forsett for him. Forsett is a below average starter on a terrible team. His ceiling is about 7 fantasy points.I'd rather go with the unknown younger player on the better team.
 
Captain Hook said:
plyka said:
Does anyone have more info on Portis and whether he will go this weekend? Even if Portis does go, we know KW will get a few touches. We will have a lot more info after this week on this kid.
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True - and if Williams looks good he will already be rostered and ready to roll in most all leagues..........there were some leagues this week where it cost almost as much to FAAB him as it did Tolbert
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Of course, I have KW in all the leagues i'm able to carry him in. And i got him for basically free, a FA pickup. Just the cost of dropping another player. Unfortunately, it was Heyward-Bey in my PPR keeper league (he did get 13 targets last week). I'm with you 100%, if you wait until KW blows up then it is just too late.
 
Joe Summer said:
lfayard said:
Would anyone drop Forsett or Cadillac Williams to pick up this kid?
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I'd drop Forsett for him. Forsett is a below average starter on a terrible team. His ceiling is about 7 fantasy points.I'd rather go with the unknown younger player on the better team.
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I'm pretty high on KW, but dropping forsett? No way. The Seahawks are better than advertised, especially when Okung gets back. They have a servicable offense and an OK defense, in the NFC West, perhaps good enough to get you into the playoffs,lol. Dropping Forsett for KW is crossing the line i think. Remember Forsett has been VERY productive on a per touch basis. Once the HAwks realize that Forsett should be getting 75% of the touches, his real production will rise to an impressive level. On a talent basis, i put Forsett solidly ahead of KW, but that may be due to not seeing KW much. I've seen plenty of Forsett however, ever since the kid played at Cal. I would go with the higher talent and better situation, which is Forsett. That said, i'm sure you can find someone else to cut.
 
plyka said:
Joe Summer said:
lfayard said:
Would anyone drop Forsett or Cadillac Williams to pick up this kid?
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I'd drop Forsett for him. Forsett is a below average starter on a terrible team. His ceiling is about 7 fantasy points.I'd rather go with the unknown younger player on the better team.
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I'm pretty high on KW, but dropping forsett? No way. The Seahawks are better than advertised, especially when Okung gets back. They have a servicable offense and an OK defense, in the NFC West, perhaps good enough to get you into the playoffs,lol. Dropping Forsett for KW is crossing the line i think. Remember Forsett has been VERY productive on a per touch basis. Once the HAwks realize that Forsett should be getting 75% of the touches, his real production will rise to an impressive level. On a talent basis, i put Forsett solidly ahead of KW, but that may be due to not seeing KW much. I've seen plenty of Forsett however, ever since the kid played at Cal. I would go with the higher talent and better situation, which is Forsett. That said, i'm sure you can find someone else to cut.
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:clap:I have both on my dynasty roster and am a Redskins fan, FWIW. BTW, the original question wasn't clear as to whether they were asking about redraft or dynasty.
 
Nightly Mistake said:
plyka said:
Joe Summer said:
lfayard said:
Would anyone drop Forsett or Cadillac Williams to pick up this kid?
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I'd drop Forsett for him. Forsett is a below average starter on a terrible team. His ceiling is about 7 fantasy points.I'd rather go with the unknown younger player on the better team.
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I'm pretty high on KW, but dropping forsett? No way. The Seahawks are better than advertised, especially when Okung gets back. They have a servicable offense and an OK defense, in the NFC West, perhaps good enough to get you into the playoffs,lol. Dropping Forsett for KW is crossing the line i think. Remember Forsett has been VERY productive on a per touch basis. Once the HAwks realize that Forsett should be getting 75% of the touches, his real production will rise to an impressive level. On a talent basis, i put Forsett solidly ahead of KW, but that may be due to not seeing KW much. I've seen plenty of Forsett however, ever since the kid played at Cal. I would go with the higher talent and better situation, which is Forsett. That said, i'm sure you can find someone else to cut.
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:lmao:I have both on my dynasty roster and am a Redskins fan, FWIW. BTW, the original question wasn't clear as to whether they were asking about redraft or dynasty.
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I want to add him so bad before all players go on waivers tomorrow... but don't know who to drop... we have a 10 team league... my teams are in sig. please suggest who i should drop on each team... thanks
 
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Maybe some predraft and post draft Bloom 100 commentary may help a little.

Pre Draft Comments #57 - 57. Keiland Williams, RB, LSU - Williams had a case of fumblitis that kept him behind the more workmanlike Charles Scott, but Williams size/speed combination is much better suited for NFL play.

Post Draft Comments #67 - Keiland Williams, RB, Washington - Williams always looked like an NFL RB to me from a physical standpoint, and the Redskins depth chart is full of backs with one foot in the grave.

 
Late225 said:
Maybe some predraft and post draft Bloom 100 commentary may help a little. Pre Draft Comments #57 - 57. Keiland Williams, RB, LSU - Williams had a case of fumblitis that kept him behind the more workmanlike Charles Scott, but Williams size/speed combination is much better suited for NFL play.Post Draft Comments #67 - Keiland Williams, RB, Washington - Williams always looked like an NFL RB to me from a physical standpoint, and the Redskins depth chart is full of backs with one foot in the grave.
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you just sent emge over the edge.team 1: if that's demarius thomas wr den, then no one. if de thomas wr WAS, then him.team 2: buckhalter if you're feeling luckyand gb sig.
 
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thecardiackid said:
Late225 said:
Maybe some predraft and post draft Bloom 100 commentary may help a little. Pre Draft Comments #57 - 57. Keiland Williams, RB, LSU - Williams had a case of fumblitis that kept him behind the more workmanlike Charles Scott, but Williams size/speed combination is much better suited for NFL play.Post Draft Comments #67 - Keiland Williams, RB, Washington - Williams always looked like an NFL RB to me from a physical standpoint, and the Redskins depth chart is full of backs with one foot in the grave.
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you just sent emge over the edge.team 1: if that's demarius thomas wr den, then no one. if de thomas wr WAS, then him.team 2: buckhalter if you're feeling luckyand gb sig.
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if its devin thomas i'd go with williams.
 
Hipple said:
thecardiackid said:
Late225 said:
Maybe some predraft and post draft Bloom 100 commentary may help a little. Pre Draft Comments #57 - 57. Keiland Williams, RB, LSU - Williams had a case of fumblitis that kept him behind the more workmanlike Charles Scott, but Williams size/speed combination is much better suited for NFL play.Post Draft Comments #67 - Keiland Williams, RB, Washington - Williams always looked like an NFL RB to me from a physical standpoint, and the Redskins depth chart is full of backs with one foot in the grave.
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you just sent emge over the edge.team 1: if that's demarius thomas wr den, then no one. if de thomas wr WAS, then him.team 2: buckhalter if you're feeling luckyand gb sig.
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if its devin thomas i'd go with williams.
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it's Demarius Thomas Denver
 
emge said:
Hipple said:
thecardiackid said:
Late225 said:
Maybe some predraft and post draft Bloom 100 commentary may help a little. Pre Draft Comments #57 - 57. Keiland Williams, RB, LSU - Williams had a case of fumblitis that kept him behind the more workmanlike Charles Scott, but Williams size/speed combination is much better suited for NFL play.Post Draft Comments #67 - Keiland Williams, RB, Washington - Williams always looked like an NFL RB to me from a physical standpoint, and the Redskins depth chart is full of backs with one foot in the grave.
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you just sent emge over the edge.team 1: if that's demarius thomas wr den, then no one. if de thomas wr WAS, then him.team 2: buckhalter if you're feeling luckyand gb sig.
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if its devin thomas i'd go with williams.
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it's Demarius Thomas Denver
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Late225's post above is useful, but shouldn't most of this be in the Assistant Coach Forum? :lmao:
 
Just dropped Vincent Jackson for him. I've wanted to pull the trigger on this for a few days but I figured it might be worth a shot in the dark.

 
Wow guys, pretty high on KW i see! Dropping Forsett, Vincent Jackson and potentially Demaryius Thomas! In my Yahoo! league this guy is only 4% owned. I am pretty high on him myself, was kind of regretting dropping Heyward-Bey in my keeper PPR for him, but reading your guy's posts i'm wondering whether i should be higher on KW than i am. A guy in my league owns Portis and Demaryius, i'm thinking of offering KW for Demaryius straight up right now (i would cancel it before the game starts tomorrow). Thinking about it...

 
Without starting a new thread, I would be curious to hear who is starting him today and who are you benching? I own him in 2 of 4 money leagues...currently on my bench. Although, I am kicking the tires in one league.

Williams over John Carlson in flex. 1.5 ppr for TE though

hmmmmm

 
Without starting a new thread, I would be curious to hear who is starting him today and who are you benching? I own him in 2 of 4 money leagues...currently on my bench. Although, I am kicking the tires in one league.

Williams over John Carlson in flex. 1.5 ppr for TE though

hmmmmm
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:goodposting: Shark pool getting a little carried away here?

 
Otis said:
Without starting a new thread, I would be curious to hear who is starting him today and who are you benching? I own him in 2 of 4 money leagues...currently on my bench. Although, I am kicking the tires in one league.

Williams over John Carlson in flex. 1.5 ppr for TE though

hmmmmm
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:confused: Shark pool getting a little carried away here?
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Not sure if it is getting carried away. I think he K will see 3rd down duties as well as spell Portis today. In a 14 team PPR league, he just may be a pretty decent option at FLEX.

 
groin pains said:
Not sure if it is getting carried away. I think he K will see 3rd down duties as well as spell Portis today. In a 14 team PPR league, he just may be a pretty decent option at FLEX.
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I do not think Williams will be replacing Portis on 3rd downs. Portis is the better blocker and with a bad o-line that is needed on 3rd downs. It is more likely that Williams either replaces Portis for a few series, or on some 1st and 2nd downs. Call me crazy but I would not start him today. Having him on your roster is one thing, and a good idea if your roster has room. But starting him now seems like over-optimism.
 
Skins will draft a RB in the by the 3rd round next year. That will be your new starter. This K train is getting a little absurd IMO.

 
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fatness said:
groin pains said:
Not sure if it is getting carried away. I think he K will see 3rd down duties as well as spell Portis today. In a 14 team PPR league, he just may be a pretty decent option at FLEX.
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I do not think Williams will be replacing Portis on 3rd downs. Portis is the better blocker and with a bad o-line that is needed on 3rd downs. It is more likely that Williams either replaces Portis for a few series, or on some 1st and 2nd downs. Call me crazy but I would not start him today. Having him on your roster is one thing, and a good idea if your roster has room. But starting him now seems like over-optimism.
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As a Redskins fan, I have to agree that you should not start Keiland. The media and the fantasy world have been underestimating Portis for the past four seasons. Including in 2008 when he led the league in rushing through 8-10 games and finished in the top five. I agree that he is declining but he is still very much top dog in DC. Keiland will certainly have an opportunity to unseat Portis but he has not done so. That said, I have Keiland rostered but no way i start him today.
 
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I think KWill is the real deal. So much so that I've changed the position that he's listed at on MFL. I'm starting him instead of Brees. Rumor has it that Shanny is going to implement the wildcat for the whole second half of the game. I'm not gonna start Brees over that!

 
groin pains said:
Without starting a new thread, I would be curious to hear who is starting him today and who are you benching? I own him in 2 of 4 money leagues...currently on my bench. Although, I am kicking the tires in one league.Williams over John Carlson in flex. 1.5 ppr for TE thoughhmmmmm
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It all depends on Portis' status.. Anything other than "inactive" and I wouldn't risk it. K-Dub is good to have rostered if/when portis is injured and CAN'T START.. in the meantime he'll get more looks and his stock will continue to rise.On another note, whenever the stock of these hyped up back ups (eg huggins, jennings, etc) gets high enough, I try to trade them to the owner of the primary back (eg for demaryius Thomas -above).I like this guy on tape, bit sometimes you have to convert potential value into real value.
 
Eastwood said:
Skins will draft a RB in the by the 3rd round next year. That will be your new starter. This K train is getting a little absurd IMO.
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I agree that the "K train" is getting out of hand, but I hold open the possibility that Williams might show enough this year that Shanny decides he's the guy next year. I don't know about Torain, but I'm reasonably sure that Portis won't be on the roster next year, and those draft picks (some of which have already been traded away) are going to best be used on more OL's, a DT, a WR, and various back seven players in the defense. Shanny has certainly shown that he cares little about draft position when deciding which RB to play.
 
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