Kelvin Benjamin - WR - FSU [UPDATE PAGE 1, 7/3] (2 Viewers)

[simey]

I love the landing spot. Cam should attract plenty of attention from the defense. My main concern is that besides Benjamin who are your weapons? Double cover Benjamin and then Cam beats you? DeAngelo isn't a world beater, I'll let him tear me for 100 yards if it means limited Benjamin (assuming Benjamin does become a threat).

He has Greg Olsen, Jerricho Cotchery, and Jason Avant to throw to that are veterans. He also has the youngsters Underwood, King, and McNutt, along with Pilares and some UDFA's hoping to make the final team. Cam has to get his timing down with all of these new guys (except maybe Olsen), but I think overall the Panthers are stronger at WR this year than they were last year.

 

[NCCommish]

I love the landing spot. Cam should attract plenty of attention from the defense. My main concern is that besides Benjamin who are your weapons? Double cover Benjamin and then Cam beats you? DeAngelo isn't a world beater, I'll let him tear me for 100 yards if it means limited Benjamin (assuming Benjamin does become a threat).

He has Greg Olsen, Jerricho Cotchery, and Jason Avant to throw to that are veterans. He also has the youngsters Underwood, King, and McNutt, along with Pilares and some UDFA's hoping to make the final team. Cam has to get his timing down with all of these new guys (except maybe Olsen), but I think overall the Panthers are stronger at WR this year than they were last year.

I read that Cam and Benjamin have been spending time together. Cam took him to his home in Atlanta for Memorial Day weekend. Also Cam has been staying after practice with Benjamin throwing him the ball this week.

 

[simey]

I love the landing spot. Cam should attract plenty of attention from the defense. My main concern is that besides Benjamin who are your weapons? Double cover Benjamin and then Cam beats you? DeAngelo isn't a world beater, I'll let him tear me for 100 yards if it means limited Benjamin (assuming Benjamin does become a threat).

He has Greg Olsen, Jerricho Cotchery, and Jason Avant to throw to that are veterans. He also has the youngsters Underwood, King, and McNutt, along with Pilares and some UDFA's hoping to make the final team. Cam has to get his timing down with all of these new guys (except maybe Olsen), but I think overall the Panthers are stronger at WR this year than they were last year.

I read that Cam and Benjamin have been spending time together. Cam took him to his home in Atlanta for Memorial Day weekend. Also Cam has been staying after practice with Benjamin throwing him the ball this week.

I like that news.

 

[bostonfred]

Cam has been staying after practice with Benjamin throwing him the ball this week.

I would feel a lot better if cam was throwing the ball to benjamin, but that's nice, too.

 

[NCCommish]

Cam has been staying after practice with Benjamin throwing him the ball this week.

I would feel a lot better if cam was throwing the ball to benjamin, but that's nice, too.

Hey everyone knows about my proclivity for run on sentences and iffy structure.

 

[Phenix]

R.O.T.Y.

He has the makings to be the most productive rookie WR this year.

 

[3 hour lunch]

This has been a strange thread to follow. Mostly people labeling him as raw and a one-trick pony for a bunch of pages, saying he'll get overdrafted. Recently, the tide seems to have shifted due to opportunity (which was always there) and other reasons I can't figure out. I've seen Benjamin go between 1.07 and 3.01 in rookie drafts. Very polarizing player.

 

[Phenix]

This has been a strange thread to follow. Mostly people labeling him as raw and a one-trick pony for a bunch of pages, saying he'll get overdrafted. Recently, the tide seems to have shifted due to opportunity (which was always there) and other reasons I can't figure out. I've seen Benjamin go between 1.07 and 3.01 in rookie drafts. Very polarizing player.

Shows you some people know whats up, and others do not.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I think that both sides have some validity here. He is in a top 3 destination for a rookie skill player as there is nothing stopping him on the depth chart to be Cam's #1 option. He has the size and ability to be a great red zone option as well.

However, his speed, rawness, and other weaknesses are/were legit complaints. If they weren't there, he would be going top 4 in basically every rookie draft, no?

 

[cstu]

I think that both sides have some validity here. He is in a top 3 destination for a rookie skill player as there is nothing stopping him on the depth chart to be Cam's #1 option. He has the size and ability to be a great red zone option as well.

However, his speed, rawness, and other weaknesses are/were legit complaints. If they weren't there, he would be going top 4 in basically every rookie draft, no?

It's very possible that he becomes a stud WR but you can't ignore him being 15 lbs. overweight (240), running a 4.61 and putting up disappointing numbers at the combine.

He was also never the #1 WR on his team and other than TD's he wasn't better than 5-11, 174 Kenny Shaw (who wasn't drafted).

 

[Phenix]

I think that both sides have some validity here. He is in a top 3 destination for a rookie skill player as there is nothing stopping him on the depth chart to be Cam's #1 option. He has the size and ability to be a great red zone option as well.

However, his speed, rawness, and other weaknesses are/were legit complaints. If they weren't there, he would be going top 4 in basically every rookie draft, no?

It's very possible that he becomes a stud WR but you can't ignore him being 15 lbs. overweight (240), running a 4.61 and putting up disappointing numbers at the combine.

He was also never the #1 WR on his team and other than TD's he wasn't better than 5-11, 174 Kenny Shaw (who wasn't drafted).

A professional organization who pays people to scout players for a living disagrees with you and drafted him as the WR of the future for their team and the starting QB of that team loves him as well as the WR coach.

But keep trying to justify the negativity and bad opinion some have of him.

 

[cstu]

I think that both sides have some validity here. He is in a top 3 destination for a rookie skill player as there is nothing stopping him on the depth chart to be Cam's #1 option. He has the size and ability to be a great red zone option as well.

However, his speed, rawness, and other weaknesses are/were legit complaints. If they weren't there, he would be going top 4 in basically every rookie draft, no?

It's very possible that he becomes a stud WR but you can't ignore him being 15 lbs. overweight (240), running a 4.61 and putting up disappointing numbers at the combine.

He was also never the #1 WR on his team and other than TD's he wasn't better than 5-11, 174 Kenny Shaw (who wasn't drafted).

A professional organization who pays people to scout players for a living disagrees with you and drafted him as the WR of the future for their team and the starting QB of that team loves him as well as the WR coach.

But keep trying to justify the negativity and bad opinion some have of him.

30th pick of the 1st round by the 49ers: A.J. Jenkins

It happens.

 

[cloppbeast]

30th pick of the 1st round by the 49ers: A.J. Jenkins

It happens.

You write him off already. He has only played two season. My goodness.

Although you're point is well received. Professional scouts make mistakes as well. Chad Jackson serves as a better example, seeing as how his final chapter is written.

 

[Phenix]

30th pick of the 1st round by the 49ers: A.J. Jenkins

It happens.

You write him off already. He has only played two season. My goodness.

I know right. The reason the Chiefs didnt draft a worthy WR is they see something in him. So that makes two teams who saw something in Jenkins.

 

[NCCommish]

I think that both sides have some validity here. He is in a top 3 destination for a rookie skill player as there is nothing stopping him on the depth chart to be Cam's #1 option. He has the size and ability to be a great red zone option as well.

However, his speed, rawness, and other weaknesses are/were legit complaints. If they weren't there, he would be going top 4 in basically every rookie draft, no?

It's very possible that he becomes a stud WR but you can't ignore him being 15 lbs. overweight (240), running a 4.61 and putting up disappointing numbers at the combine.

He was also never the #1 WR on his team and other than TD's he wasn't better than 5-11, 174 Kenny Shaw (who wasn't drafted).

He is not overweight. He is constantly described as seeming slim for a man his size by people who see him in person. The Panthers have said they are fine with him at 240 and that they never asked him to lose any weight.

Oh and you might want to look at the splits on his 40 time.

 

[Premier]

He was way better than Kenny Shaw. GTFO of here with that crap.

 

[cstu]

He was way better than Kenny Shaw. GTFO of here with that crap.

Obviously, my point was that they put up nearly the same exact stats over the past two years except for TD's.

 

[Premier]

He was way better than Kenny Shaw. GTFO of here with that crap.

Obviously, my point was that they put up nearly the same exact stats over the past two years except for TD's.

Benjamin split the defense way open this year even with all of his flaws. Shaw was a very good slot guy but he will be fairly easily replaced.

Benjamin....definitely not.

 

[cstu]

He was way better than Kenny Shaw. GTFO of here with that crap.

Obviously, my point was that they put up nearly the same exact stats over the past two years except for TD's.

Benjamin split the defense way open this year even with all of his flaws. Shaw was a very good slot guy but he will be fairly easily replaced.

Benjamin....definitely not.

Frankly, they'll both be easily replaced.

 

[Eminence]

He was way better than Kenny Shaw. GTFO of here with that crap.

Obviously, my point was that they put up nearly the same exact stats over the past two years except for TD's.

Benjamin split the defense way open this year even with all of his flaws. Shaw was a very good slot guy but he will be fairly easily replaced.Benjamin....definitely not.

Frankly, they'll both be easily replaced.

Uhh, Benjamin caught 18 touchdowns, right? I don't think that's easily replaced.

 

[Premier]

He was way better than Kenny Shaw. GTFO of here with that crap.

Obviously, my point was that they put up nearly the same exact stats over the past two years except for TD's.

Benjamin split the defense way open this year even with all of his flaws. Shaw was a very good slot guy but he will be fairly easily replaced.Benjamin....definitely not.

Frankly, they'll both be easily replaced.

Well nobody who follows or covers fsu daily agrees with you, but if anonymous message board guy who doesn't even know the depth chart says so, then ok.

 

[Phenix]

He was way better than Kenny Shaw. GTFO of here with that crap.

Obviously, my point was that they put up nearly the same exact stats over the past two years except for TD's.

Benjamin split the defense way open this year even with all of his flaws. Shaw was a very good slot guy but he will be fairly easily replaced.Benjamin....definitely not.

Frankly, they'll both be easily replaced.

Well nobody who follows or covers fsu daily agrees with you, but if anonymous message board guy who doesn't even know the depth chart says so, then ok.

I think it is so obvious that CTSU is

 

[Quez]

Dominating UF seemed like a bigger deal before Purifoy went undrafted.

 

[NCCommish]

Dominating UF seemed like a bigger deal before Purifoy went undrafted.

Perhaps one had something to do with the other.

 

[BassNBrew]

I think that both sides have some validity here. He is in a top 3 destination for a rookie skill player as there is nothing stopping him on the depth chart to be Cam's #1 option. He has the size and ability to be a great red zone option as well.

However, his speed, rawness, and other weaknesses are/were legit complaints. If they weren't there, he would be going top 4 in basically every rookie draft, no?

It's very possible that he becomes a stud WR but you can't ignore him being 15 lbs. overweight (240), running a 4.61 and putting up disappointing numbers at the combine.

He was also never the #1 WR on his team and other than TD's he wasn't better than 5-11, 174 Kenny Shaw (who wasn't drafted).

He is not overweight. He is constantly described as seeming slim for a man his size by people who see him in person. The Panthers have said they are fine with him at 240 and that they never asked him to lose any weight.

Oh and you might want to look at the splits on his 40 time.

Please elaborate with some data and comparisons to other prospects. My gut says he's slow out of the gate and then gets faster. Watcha ya got?

 

[NCCommish]

I think that both sides have some validity here. He is in a top 3 destination for a rookie skill player as there is nothing stopping him on the depth chart to be Cam's #1 option. He has the size and ability to be a great red zone option as well.

However, his speed, rawness, and other weaknesses are/were legit complaints. If they weren't there, he would be going top 4 in basically every rookie draft, no?

It's very possible that he becomes a stud WR but you can't ignore him being 15 lbs. overweight (240), running a 4.61 and putting up disappointing numbers at the combine.

He was also never the #1 WR on his team and other than TD's he wasn't better than 5-11, 174 Kenny Shaw (who wasn't drafted).

He is not overweight. He is constantly described as seeming slim for a man his size by people who see him in person. The Panthers have said they are fine with him at 240 and that they never asked him to lose any weight.

Oh and you might want to look at the splits on his 40 time.

Please elaborate with some data and comparisons to other prospects. My gut says he's slow out of the gate and then gets faster. Watcha ya got?

Let me see what I can dig up to support your gut but as I recall you are right. A little slow out of the gate and then faster with each split. IIRC his last 10 yards was actually better than some guys who are considered fast. But I'll find the numbers.

 

[Pickle Rody]

..... you might want to look at the splits on his 40 time.

Please elaborate with some data and comparisons to other prospects. My gut says he's slow out of the gate and then gets faster. Watcha ya got?

Let me see what I can dig up to support your gut but as I recall you are right. A little slow out of the gate and then faster with each split. IIRC his last 10 yards was actually better than some guys who are considered fast. But I'll find the numbers.

Oooo, I'd really like to see this data.....

 

[cstu]

I think that both sides have some validity here. He is in a top 3 destination for a rookie skill player as there is nothing stopping him on the depth chart to be Cam's #1 option. He has the size and ability to be a great red zone option as well.

However, his speed, rawness, and other weaknesses are/were legit complaints. If they weren't there, he would be going top 4 in basically every rookie draft, no?

It's very possible that he becomes a stud WR but you can't ignore him being 15 lbs. overweight (240), running a 4.61 and putting up disappointing numbers at the combine.

He was also never the #1 WR on his team and other than TD's he wasn't better than 5-11, 174 Kenny Shaw (who wasn't drafted).

He is not overweight. He is constantly described as seeming slim for a man his size by people who see him in person. The Panthers have said they are fine with him at 240 and that they never asked him to lose any weight.

Oh and you might want to look at the splits on his 40 time.

Please elaborate with some data and comparisons to other prospects. My gut says he's slow out of the gate and then gets faster. Watcha ya got?

Let me see what I can dig up to support your gut but as I recall you are right. A little slow out of the gate and then faster with each split. IIRC his last 10 yards was actually better than some guys who are considered fast. But I'll find the numbers.

The first 10 yards are the most important IMO and Benjamin had 10 yard splits of 1.66 and 1.62 - at the bottom of all WR's at the combine. For comparison, Evans' splits were 1.57 and 1.59.

 

[cstu]

He was way better than Kenny Shaw. GTFO of here with that crap.

Obviously, my point was that they put up nearly the same exact stats over the past two years except for TD's.

Benjamin split the defense way open this year even with all of his flaws. Shaw was a very good slot guy but he will be fairly easily replaced.Benjamin....definitely not.

Frankly, they'll both be easily replaced.

Well nobody who follows or covers fsu daily agrees with you, but if anonymous message board guy who doesn't even know the depth chart says so, then ok.

They still have their #1 receiver and are looking for a #2, which is what Benjamin was. My money is on Isaiah Jones.

 

[Quez]

FSU has 2 5star guys in the 2014 class, Ermon Lane & Travis Rudolph, that may be able to make an impact as freshmen.

 

[NCCommish]

I think that both sides have some validity here. He is in a top 3 destination for a rookie skill player as there is nothing stopping him on the depth chart to be Cam's #1 option. He has the size and ability to be a great red zone option as well.

However, his speed, rawness, and other weaknesses are/were legit complaints. If they weren't there, he would be going top 4 in basically every rookie draft, no?

It's very possible that he becomes a stud WR but you can't ignore him being 15 lbs. overweight (240), running a 4.61 and putting up disappointing numbers at the combine.

He was also never the #1 WR on his team and other than TD's he wasn't better than 5-11, 174 Kenny Shaw (who wasn't drafted).

He is not overweight. He is constantly described as seeming slim for a man his size by people who see him in person. The Panthers have said they are fine with him at 240 and that they never asked him to lose any weight.

Oh and you might want to look at the splits on his 40 time.

Please elaborate with some data and comparisons to other prospects. My gut says he's slow out of the gate and then gets faster. Watcha ya got?

Let me see what I can dig up to support your gut but as I recall you are right. A little slow out of the gate and then faster with each split. IIRC his last 10 yards was actually better than some guys who are considered fast. But I'll find the numbers.

The first 10 yards are the most important IMO and Benjamin had 10 yard splits of 1.66 and 1.62 - at the bottom of all WR's at the combine. For comparison, Evans' splits were 1.57 and 1.59.

Not if you are 6'5" they probably aren't.

 

[NCCommish]

Still looking for the full splits. be darned if I can remember where I saw it now. Work is interfering with my research.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Panthers reporter David Newton "wouldn't be shocked" if rookie WR Kelvin Benjamin surpassed eight touchdowns this season.

"From what I've seen so far there will be little hesitation to throw it up high and let him go get it," said Newton. Benjamin's size undoubtedly makes him a touchdown threat, but eight TDs may be stretching it. Eight touchdowns is a feat accomplished by only around 15 receivers every season, and Carolina traditionally runs the football when they get in close. Benjamin will certainly be a factor in the red zone, but the offense he plays in will limit his scoring potential to some degree.

Source: ESPN.com

Jun 7 - 10:44 AM

 

[pantherclub]

I think 8 td's is easily attainable if the offense looks the same as last year. Lots of 1rst and goals.

 

[Archer]

Double digit TDs is what the team needs from him.

 

[stbugs]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Panthers reporter David Newton "wouldn't be shocked" if rookie WR Kelvin Benjamin surpassed eight touchdowns this season.

"From what I've seen so far there will be little hesitation to throw it up high and let him go get it," said Newton. Benjamin's size undoubtedly makes him a touchdown threat, but eight TDs may be stretching it. Eight touchdowns is a feat accomplished by only around 15 receivers every season, and Carolina traditionally runs the football when they get in close. Benjamin will certainly be a factor in the red zone, but the offense he plays in will limit his scoring potential to some degree.

Source: ESPN.com

Jun 7 - 10:44 AM

The guy from rotoworld obviously didn't watch the end of the year. They needed a legit red zone threat.Forget the horrid goal line performance in the playoffs against SF. DeAngelo and Stewart had 0 rushing TDs of 10 or less yards. In the last 9 regular season games Tolbert had 2 and Newton has 3 goal line TDs. So, no they weren't really punching it in the end zone via the run last year.

I could easily see Benjamin with 8 TDs. They had no credible end zone receiving threat. Even Olsen over his career averages around 5 TDs per year. He isn't Gronk or Graham, heck he's not even. A Rudolph.

Newton was the best red zone threat last year, hence the decision to draft Benjamin. It was blatantly obvious against SF that the were able to get to the red zone, but had no end zone threats. They will use him a lot.

 

[NCCommish]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Panthers reporter David Newton "wouldn't be shocked" if rookie WR Kelvin Benjamin surpassed eight touchdowns this season.

"From what I've seen so far there will be little hesitation to throw it up high and let him go get it," said Newton. Benjamin's size undoubtedly makes him a touchdown threat, but eight TDs may be stretching it. Eight touchdowns is a feat accomplished by only around 15 receivers every season, and Carolina traditionally runs the football when they get in close. Benjamin will certainly be a factor in the red zone, but the offense he plays in will limit his scoring potential to some degree.

Source: ESPN.com

Jun 7 - 10:44 AM

The guy from rotoworld obviously didn't watch the end of the year. They needed a legit red zone threat.Forget the horrid goal line performance in the playoffs against SF. DeAngelo and Stewart had 0 rushing TDs of 10 or less yards. In the last 9 regular season games Tolbert had 2 and Newton has 3 goal line TDs. So, no they weren't really punching it in the end zone via the run last year.

I could easily see Benjamin with 8 TDs. They had no credible end zone receiving threat. Even Olsen over his career averages around 5 TDs per year. He isn't Gronk or Graham, heck he's not even. A Rudolph.

Newton was the best red zone threat last year, hence the decision to draft Benjamin. It was blatantly obvious against SF that the were able to get to the red zone, but had no end zone threats. They will use him a lot.

Yeah I will be shocked if he doesn't make at least 8. He is going to get his chances. Plus that's what Cotchery did for a living last year. He is going to be mentoring Kelvin on the fine points.

 

[cstu]

Yeah I will be shocked if he doesn't make at least 8. He is going to get his chances. Plus that's what Cotchery did for a living last year. He is going to be mentoring Kelvin on the fine points.

Players who have caught more than 7 TD's from Cam:

 

[Eminence]

Yeah I will be shocked if he doesn't make at least 8. He is going to get his chances. Plus that's what Cotchery did for a living last year. He is going to be mentoring Kelvin on the fine points.

Players who have caught more than 7 TD's from Cam:

*Also includes receivers under 6 ft 5 Cam Newton has thrown to.

 

[NCCommish]

Yeah I will be shocked if he doesn't make at least 8. He is going to get his chances. Plus that's what Cotchery did for a living last year. He is going to be mentoring Kelvin on the fine points.

Players who have caught more than 7 TD's from Cam:

Yeah and that's been a part of the problem for this team. Not enough red zone threats. SF made that clear in their presser after the playoff game. Now we got at least 3. Cotchery, Benjamin and Olsen. When all we had before was really Olsen.

 

[Faust]

@7RoundsInApril · Jun 10

Remember...comps use pre-draft info for all players - current prospects are compared only to past *prospects*. NFL careers not considered.

@7RoundsInApril · Jun 10

Ranked first by tier, and then within tier. Assumes all positions have equal value.

@7RoundsInApril · Jun 10

#12 Kelvin Benjamin: Plaxico Burress, also Buffalo Mike Williams with + size

@7RoundsInApril · Jun 10

Forgot to mention... #6 to #12 are Elite Prospects with Added Risk or Good Prospects with Clean Profiles

 

[Faust]

Newton, Benjamin starting time together

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Panthers
Kelvin Benjamin will spend the four weeks before training camp in Charlotte with Cam Newton.
Benjamin isn't going to bolt during the dead spot in the NFL's calendar. He'll stick around and get work in with his starting quarterback, which can only be a good thing for such a raw rookie. The 6-foot-5 Benjamin is penned in as an every-down player right away, but projects as a touchdown-dependent WR4 in fantasy. The passing offense is not going to be prolific.


Source: Charlotte Observer
Jun 19 - 9:51 AM

 

[NCCommish]

Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Panthers
Kelvin Benjamin will spend the four weeks before training camp in Charlotte with Cam Newton.
Benjamin isn't going to bolt during the dead spot in the NFL's calendar. He'll stick around and get work in with his starting quarterback, which can only be a good thing for such a raw rookie. The 6-foot-5 Benjamin is penned in as an every-down player right away, but projects as a touchdown-dependent WR4 in fantasy. The passing offense is not going to be prolific.


Source: Charlotte Observer
Jun 19 - 9:51 AM

I love how all the talking heads know how prolific or not this passing offense will be. I would think people would do well to remember how prolific Cam was with two viable receiving TE's.

 

[Faust]

Kelvin Benjamin has Carolina Panthers' brass excited:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000360690/article/kelvin-benjamin-has-carolina-panthers-brass-excited

 

[Jeff Vader]

R.O.T.Y.

He has the makings to be the most productive rookie WR this year.

Funny, I think he's the mostly likely first round BUST.

He's terribly raw. Had one good year of college production, that's it. And while he landed with a good QB, he's also going to be expected to be their #1 WR from week 1. Plus his speed is nothing to write home about. This is a slow Calvin Johnson without the football smarts.

I'm avoiding at all costs.

 

[NCCommish]

R.O.T.Y.

He has the makings to be the most productive rookie WR this year.

Funny, I think he's the mostly likely first round BUST.

He's terribly raw. Had one good year of college production, that's it. And while he landed with a good QB, he's also going to be expected to be their #1 WR from week 1. Plus his speed is nothing to write home about. This is a slow Calvin Johnson without the football smarts.

I'm avoiding at all costs.

Our number one receiver is Greg Olsen. Plus we will have two pass catching tight ends on the field on a lot of plays. So he isn't going to have that weight on his shoulders. He is expected to be a red zone and 3rd down threat from week one. His 40 time is being way overblown. And as for his smarts everything I have heard from camp is he is plenty football smart. Not sure where you guys even get some of the stuff you do.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

R.O.T.Y.

He has the makings to be the most productive rookie WR this year.

Funny, I think he's the mostly likely first round BUST.

He's terribly raw. Had one good year of college production, that's it. And while he landed with a good QB, he's also going to be expected to be their #1 WR from week 1. Plus his speed is nothing to write home about. This is a slow Calvin Johnson without the football smarts.

I'm avoiding at all costs.

Our number one receiver is Greg Olsen. Plus we will have two pass catching tight ends on the field on a lot of plays. So he isn't going to have that weight on his shoulders. He is expected to be a red zone and 3rd down threat from week one. His 40 time is being way overblown. And as for his smarts everything I have heard from camp is he is plenty football smart. Not sure where you guys even get some of the stuff you do.

Exactly. Also, Calvin had several botched routes last year resulting in INTs. So lets not consider him on a Jerry Rice football IQ level either.

 

[NCCommish]

R.O.T.Y.

He has the makings to be the most productive rookie WR this year.

Funny, I think he's the mostly likely first round BUST.

He's terribly raw. Had one good year of college production, that's it. And while he landed with a good QB, he's also going to be expected to be their #1 WR from week 1. Plus his speed is nothing to write home about. This is a slow Calvin Johnson without the football smarts.

I'm avoiding at all costs.

Our number one receiver is Greg Olsen. Plus we will have two pass catching tight ends on the field on a lot of plays. So he isn't going to have that weight on his shoulders. He is expected to be a red zone and 3rd down threat from week one. His 40 time is being way overblown. And as for his smarts everything I have heard from camp is he is plenty football smart. Not sure where you guys even get some of the stuff you do.

Exactly. Also, Calvin had several botched routes last year resulting in INTs. So lets not consider him on a Jerry Rice football IQ level either.

Well sure he's raw we all know that. But that isn't the same as stupid. And some of those interceptions were on his late throwing QB.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Panthers
Panthers first-round pick Kelvin Benjamin revealed on the Ross Tucker Podcast that he currently weighs 245 pounds.
He weighed 240 at the Combine and 242 at Florida State's Pro Day. Benjamin is a truly massive human being at 6-foot-5 even, with left tackle-like 34 7/8-inch arms and 10 1/4-inch hands. He projects as Carolina's go-to red-zone target right away, though we're skeptical how many passes Benjamin will end up catching. He could be a 40-catch, eight-touchdown sort of producer in year one.


Source: Ross Tucker Podcast
Jun 30 - 2:38 PM