I still remember this game vividly back from the days when I lived and died with the Raiders each week. Stabler was one of my top sports heroes of all time.If that doesn't give you goose bumps you're not human.Working from home today and on NFL Network they have NFL Classic Games on. It was supposed to be CHI vs. MIN game but they are showing OAK (with Stabler) vs. MIA instead. Stabler was before my time so I am enjoying watching him play right now.
I cut out the filler. This is the best 8 minutes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHUTvHOgOugHe looked weird in baby blues. I was at that wildcard game at the Oakland-Alameda Coliseum on the road to Super Bowl XIV. Dave Casper was with Stabler as the enemy. We crushed Earl Campbell's Oilers 27-7 that day. Didn't seem right cheering against those two Raider legends.
Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
Stabler had a .719 winning percentage with Oakland during the 70s. The game was different then and stats don't tell the whole story. Not sure if you watched the NFL back then but those that did know what I mean.NREC34 said:Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Godsbrother said:Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
You are completely wrong.NREC34 said:Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Godsbrother said:Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
Stabler deserves to be in the HOF more than Joe Namath, who is vastly overrated. Namath was made on Jan 12, 1969, Stabler was made from over a decade of excellence.NREC34 said:Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Godsbrother said:Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
Those grapes, sour are they?Stabler deserves to be in the HOF more than Joe Namath, who is vastly overrated. Namath was made on Jan 12, 1969, Stabler was made from over a decade of excellence.NREC34 said:Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Godsbrother said:Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
No, just the truth. I think most know this. I wouldn't call Namath's numbers hall of fame worthy and that one game and his off the field glitter made the man.Those grapes, sour are they?Stabler deserves to be in the HOF more than Joe Namath, who is vastly overrated. Namath was made on Jan 12, 1969, Stabler was made from over a decade of excellence.NREC34 said:Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Godsbrother said:Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
He'd be the 2nd from Alabama, after Derrick Thomas.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:Sucks to put legends in the hof after they die.
It's thinking like this that's made America what it is today. Great job.NREC34 said:Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Godsbrother said:Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
Namath's numbers are as Hall worthy as Stabler. In fact, the most rotten numbers posted by either were the post-1978 interception stats by Stabler. His TD:INT ratio should have been good after the rules changes of 1978 but somehow it got worse. Stabler's years from 1973-77 are top notch but he was not good after that. You can call him mediocre at best after that impressive 5-year run. You could also call him bad.JohnnyU said:No, just the truth. I think most know this. I wouldn't call Namath's numbers hall of fame worthy and that one game and his off the field glitter made the man.Freelove said:Those grapes, sour are they?Stabler deserves to be in the HOF more than Joe Namath, who is vastly overrated. Namath was made on Jan 12, 1969, Stabler was made from over a decade of excellence.NREC34 said:Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Godsbrother said:Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
Namath wasn't a bum, but I think he's in the HOF because of that one game. I feel Stabler had a better overall career and if Namath is in the HOF Stabler sure as hell should be.Namath's numbers are as Hall worthy as Stabler. In fact, the most rotten numbers posted by either were the post-1978 interception stats by Stabler. His TD:INT ratio should have been good after the rules changes of 1978 but somehow it got worse.Stabler's years from 1973-77 are top notch but he was not good after that. You can call him mediocre at best after that impressive 5-year run. You could also call him bad.JohnnyU said:No, just the truth. I think most know this. I wouldn't call Namath's numbers hall of fame worthy and that one game and his off the field glitter made the man.Freelove said:Those grapes, sour are they?Stabler deserves to be in the HOF more than Joe Namath, who is vastly overrated. Namath was made on Jan 12, 1969, Stabler was made from over a decade of excellence.NREC34 said:Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Godsbrother said:Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
Namath was good from 1965-69 and 1972. He was mediocre in 1974. Every other year was a partial year. So if you follow there is really only one full season by Namath where, if you are being fair, you could call him mediocre or maybe even bad if you are a hard marker. Stabler, on the other hand, has multiple sketchy seasons.
I really do not want to get into a debate here but I had to respond because you were making Namath out to be a bum. The difference between the two is more like the difference between Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers than it is Tom Brady to Jon Kitna.
Stabler at his peak is better than most Hall of Famers. If he had to retire in 1978 or 1979, he would be in the Hall of Fame now because he'd be like a QB version of Gale Sayers.Namath wasn't a bum, but I think he's in the HOF because of that one game. I feel Stabler had a better overall career and if Namath is in the HOF Stabler sure as hell should be.Namath's numbers are as Hall worthy as Stabler. In fact, the most rotten numbers posted by either were the post-1978 interception stats by Stabler. His TD:INT ratio should have been good after the rules changes of 1978 but somehow it got worse.Stabler's years from 1973-77 are top notch but he was not good after that. You can call him mediocre at best after that impressive 5-year run. You could also call him bad.JohnnyU said:No, just the truth. I think most know this. I wouldn't call Namath's numbers hall of fame worthy and that one game and his off the field glitter made the man.Freelove said:Those grapes, sour are they?Stabler deserves to be in the HOF more than Joe Namath, who is vastly overrated. Namath was made on Jan 12, 1969, Stabler was made from over a decade of excellence.NREC34 said:Nah, only enough room in the Hall for one Alabama guy with more ints than tds.Godsbrother said:Great player. Loved rooting against him!
Belongs in HOF in my opinion
Namath was good from 1965-69 and 1972. He was mediocre in 1974. Every other year was a partial year. So if you follow there is really only one full season by Namath where, if you are being fair, you could call him mediocre or maybe even bad if you are a hard marker. Stabler, on the other hand, has multiple sketchy seasons.
I really do not want to get into a debate here but I had to respond because you were making Namath out to be a bum. The difference between the two is more like the difference between Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers than it is Tom Brady to Jon Kitna.
There's a poorly-sourced rumor (doesn't mean it's not true, but I've only seen it in PFT comments and Yahoo answers) about Snake's friends planting drugs in the car of Z's friend.Does anybody have a clue on why Doctor Z had violent fits whenever the name of Stabler and Canton were brought up? Was this something personal? Years after he retired I found he looked like an old 50 to 60 something maybe the partying and womanizing lifestyle caught up to him. Anyway RIP!
My guess is that maybe it turned a bit personal over the years, but that Z's big problem is Snake's lack of dedication to his craft. A lot of guys whored and boozed and still found plenty of time to work at football. Sounds like Snake went above and beyond at blowing stuff off, not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that. But supremely-talented guys that don't work that hard are pretty big targets for criticism.How could Stabler’s skills have eroded so quickly? Injuries, yes, but it was more than that. “I always admired the absolute disdain he showed for the other team, for the guys rushing him, even when they got to him,” said Pat Toomay, one of Stabler’s training camp roommates in Oakland. “It’s like they weren’t even worth thinking about. But then after being around him for a while I had different feelings. The way he lived… the lack of effort he put into his job… well, I just couldn’t respect it.” (Paul Zimmerman, “The New Thinking Man’s Guide to Pro Football”, Simon and Schuster, 1984)
Or this, from the Hall of Fame tight end Dave Casper, Stabler’s teammate for eight seasons, in Oakland and Houston:
He set coaching back 50 years. He knows everything there is to know on a football field, but when they give him his game plan on Wednesday he probably takes it and throws it in the waste basket. No one ever suspected how little he knew about the game plan on a particular week. He’s fooled ’em all his life and he continues to fool ’em… I don’t think he ever cared about losing. Winning is fine. Losing? So what? He’d rather win the gamble and force a pass in there. A bluffer, a gambler… he’d rather do it the hard way. (Zimmerman)
Wish he could have enjoyed this HOF while he was still alive. Definitely deserves to be in Canton, A legendary football player and Raider.✔
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Ken Stabler & **** Stanfel named #PFHOF16 Finalists by our Seniors Committee. Must receive 80% support on eve of #SB50 for election.
3:17 PM - 19 Aug 2015
Nice wording!John Madden will present The Snake for the NFL HOF ceremony.