Kevin Jones is unlikely to be ready for Week 1 (1 Viewer)

[Max Power]

Kevin Jones is unlikely to be ready for Week 1, according to the Grand Rapids Press.

The paper expects Detroit to re-sign one of T.J. Duckett and Tatum Bell and use a mid-round pick on a runner. All indications so far have been that Jones' rehab is going well, so we still wouldn't rule him out for the opener

Not really breaking news, but I think Jones will be a guy to target late again this season. With Martz out of the picture his stock can only go up.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

What I love about these stories is that his rehab is going well, and there has been no additional news, yet to sell papers, someone will pull a prediction out of his ### just to get attention.

 

[Brutis]

What I love about these stories is that his rehab is going well, and there has been no additional news, yet to sell papers, someone will pull a prediction out of his ### just to get attention.

People said the same thing last year. That his rehab was going well and he would be back by midseason. Apparently it was true and he was back ahead of schedule.

 

[travdogg]

Not really breaking news, but I think Jones will be a guy to target late again this season. With Martz out of the picture his stock can only go up.

I really disagree with that statement.

 

[Max Power]

Not really breaking news, but I think Jones will be a guy to target late again this season. With Martz out of the picture his stock can only go up.

I really disagree with that statement.

As long as this new injury doesn't hold him back his stock should go up. He had very solid games last season when he got more than 15 carries. His biggest downfall was that Martz didn't stick with the run.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Not really breaking news, but I think Jones will be a guy to target late again this season. With Martz out of the picture his stock can only go up.

I really disagree with that statement.

As long as this new injury doesn't hold him back his stock should go up. He had very solid games last season when he got more than 15 carries. His biggest downfall was that Martz didn't stick with the run.

Huh, I thought his biggest downfall was getting hurt yet again.

 

[supermark_28]

I've seen several mocks that have the Lions taking a RB with their 1st round pick,how likely are they to do that?

 

[Anjin-san]

I've seen several mocks that have the Lions taking a RB with their 1st round pick,how likely are they to do that?

I'm throwing my Lions jersey off the CN Tower if that happens.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I've seen several mocks that have the Lions taking a RB with their 1st round pick,how likely are they to do that?

I'm throwing my Lions jersey off the CN Tower if that happens.

Doubtful in the 1st round, but I think they need some depth. KJ won't do much this year. He was injured late last season. I wouldn't count on him at all, but I just despise the guy.

 

[noneother]

cut bait... lose this guy...not his fault. injuries suck..

this is the year to take a back in the second... maybe the first for the lions..

they need an Oline and a QB... not sure how they get em tho..

 

[BassNBrew]

I've seen several mocks that have the Lions taking a RB with their 1st round pick,how likely are they to do that?

I suspect there will be some WRs still on the draft board so not very likely.

 

[DarabZarrabi]

cut bait... lose this guy...not his fault. injuries suck..this is the year to take a back in the second... maybe the first for the lions..they need an Oline and a QB... not sure how they get em tho..

Not sure about the QB I think they are grooming Stanton to be their starting qb and could be much better off improving other positions

 

[noneother]

cut bait... lose this guy...not his fault. injuries suck..this is the year to take a back in the second... maybe the first for the lions..they need an Oline and a QB... not sure how they get em tho..

Not sure about the QB I think they are grooming Stanton to be their starting qb and could be much better off improving other positions

doesn't refute my argument, just differing opinion.. if Stanton is option 1 (ugh) what should be option 2?

 

[Gridiron King]

Julius Jones is sceduled to visit the Lions from what I've read. It looks like they will have a two back system and KJ may not even stay healthy through that?

 

[Max Power]

Not really breaking news, but I think Jones will be a guy to target late again this season. With Martz out of the picture his stock can only go up.

I really disagree with that statement.

As long as this new injury doesn't hold him back his stock should go up. He had very solid games last season when he got more than 15 carries. His biggest downfall was that Martz didn't stick with the run.

Huh, I thought his biggest downfall was getting hurt yet again.

I'm sure the injury prone label will drop his stock in most leagues. I'm talking about about a guy who will be going in rounds 7-10 of redraft leagues that has a good shot at sniffing RB1 type numbers on weekly basis with Martz out of town. I think this is also Jones' last year of his contract, so I don't think Detroit will go out of its way to keep him healthy. Not to mention he is twice the RB Julius Jones will ever be.

 

[Patriotsfatboy1]

Well, the OP article is contradictory to this one from this morning:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2008/...rrick_dunn.html

With T.J. Ducket expected to sign in Seattle, the Lions are looking for another running back. Kevin Jones is returning from right knee surgery and is expected back for the start of training camp, but the Lions want to add some insurance.

 

[Brutis]

Well, the OP article is contradictory to this one from this morning:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2008/...rrick_dunn.html

With T.J. Ducket expected to sign in Seattle, the Lions are looking for another running back. Kevin Jones is returning from right knee surgery and is expected back for the start of training camp, but the Lions want to add some insurance.

I have a hard time believing KJ will be ready to start the season. A week 8 return is a bit more realistic since his injury happened at the end of the season. Either way they need a RB, especially if Duckett ends up leaving.

 

[Texasmouth]

Julius Jones is sceduled to visit the Lions from what I've read. It looks like they will have a two back system and KJ may not even stay healthy through that?

I heard this same thing....reports are also saying Tatum Bell is visiting Dallas. How ridiculous. Both guys should just stay put....

 

[Brutis]

Julius Jones is sceduled to visit the Lions from what I've read. It looks like they will have a two back system and KJ may not even stay healthy through that?

I heard this same thing....reports are also saying Tatum Bell is visiting Dallas. How ridiculous. Both guys should just stay put....

Julius is better off going to detroit, atleast he will get plenty of playing time while KJ rehabs.

 

[Patriotsfatboy1]

Well, the OP article is contradictory to this one from this morning:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2008/...rrick_dunn.html

With T.J. Ducket expected to sign in Seattle, the Lions are looking for another running back. Kevin Jones is returning from right knee surgery and is expected back for the start of training camp, but the Lions want to add some insurance.

I have a hard time believing KJ will be ready to start the season. A week 8 return is a bit more realistic since his injury happened at the end of the season. Either way they need a RB, especially if Duckett ends up leaving.

I have a hard time believing it as well. I would see him as a PUP list candidate (again). However, with the failure to sign Turner and the loss of Duckett, it may be that they feel that Jones might be ready. I would expect that we will know a lot more by the end of the draft.

 

[Brutis]

Well, the OP article is contradictory to this one from this morning:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2008/...rrick_dunn.html

With T.J. Ducket expected to sign in Seattle, the Lions are looking for another running back. Kevin Jones is returning from right knee surgery and is expected back for the start of training camp, but the Lions want to add some insurance.

I have a hard time believing KJ will be ready to start the season. A week 8 return is a bit more realistic since his injury happened at the end of the season. Either way they need a RB, especially if Duckett ends up leaving.

I have a hard time believing it as well. I would see him as a PUP list candidate (again). However, with the failure to sign Turner and the loss of Duckett, it may be that they feel that Jones might be ready. I would expect that we will know a lot more by the end of the draft.

They could sign Julius and still draft a decent RB in rd3 or 4 to allow KJ to go on the Pup list.

 

[AB in DC]

What's the latest on Brian Calhoun?

 

[BigJim®]

What's the latest on Brian Calhoun?

I haven't heard anything since NFL Network's Adam Schefter reported in December that the Lions remained "'very high' on injured running back Brian Calhoun." Odd timing for that report, but it is something I've been looking out for more info regarding given the KJ injury. I don't recall even seeing an explanation for Calhoun being placed on IR in the middle of 2007 season after seeing some action earlier in the year. Seems like he went from being surprisingly ahead of schedule to IR.

 

[Billy Costigan Jr]

How about Warrick Dunn coming in.

Low $ contract with incentive clauses built into it for stats/playing time...

 

[Max Power]

Lions | K. Jones plans to run this week

Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:23:10 -0800

ESPNews reports Detroit Lions RB Kevin Jones (knee) said he is two and a half to three weeks ahead of schedule and plans to start running this week. Jones underwent surgery Thursday, Jan 3., to repair the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.

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[Patriotsfatboy1]

Lions | K. Jones plans to run this weekMon, 3 Mar 2008 12:23:10 -0800ESPNews reports Detroit Lions RB Kevin Jones (knee) said he is two and a half to three weeks ahead of schedule and plans to start running this week. Jones underwent surgery Thursday, Jan 3., to repair the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Should be interesting to see if they sign anyone. Either way, this is the last year of his contract, right?

 

[az_prof]

Lions | K. Jones plans to run this weekMon, 3 Mar 2008 12:23:10 -0800ESPNews reports Detroit Lions RB Kevin Jones (knee) said he is two and a half to three weeks ahead of schedule and plans to start running this week. Jones underwent surgery Thursday, Jan 3., to repair the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The guy has had some bad luck with injuries but he has a track of record of being a fast healer.

 

[Max Power]

Lions | K. Jones plans to run this weekMon, 3 Mar 2008 12:23:10 -0800ESPNews reports Detroit Lions RB Kevin Jones (knee) said he is two and a half to three weeks ahead of schedule and plans to start running this week. Jones underwent surgery Thursday, Jan 3., to repair the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Should be interesting to see if they sign anyone. Either way, this is the last year of his contract, right?

I'm pretty sure it is. If Roy Williams stays on the roster he is much more likely to get the Franchise tag next season and Jones will being leaving Detriot as soon as he can.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

Julius Jones is visiting with the Lions today, according to local radio.

 

[Brutis]

Julius Jones is visiting with the Lions today, according to local radio.

With the KJ injury I would be shocked if Julius left detroit without a contract. With Julius having problems running behind the dallas O Line i think he will really struggle behind detroits.

 

[Max Power]

Julius Jones is visiting with the Lions today, according to local radio.

With the KJ injury I would be shocked if Julius left detroit without a contract. With Julius having problems running behind the dallas O Line i think he will really struggle behind detroits.

Maybe the Lions are hoping Teams will triple team Calvin every play

 

[Crimson King]

KJ was just on NFL live and said that he is ahead of schedule and begins running this week. He also said that he hasn't set a date for his return (I think this is a given). He said that he welcomed the team bringing a back in and that he was excited that the team wasn't bringing Martz back and would have more balance on offense.

Injuries aside, I have always been fairly impressed with KJ's play when he is healthy (I know that it isn't often). How do you guys view him from a talent perspective?

 

[Brutis]

KJ was just on NFL live and said that he is ahead of schedule and begins running this week. He also said that he hasn't set a date for his return (I think this is a given). He said that he welcomed the team bringing a back in and that he was excited that the team wasn't bringing Martz back and would have more balance on offense.Injuries aside, I have always been fairly impressed with KJ's play when he is healthy (I know that it isn't often). How do you guys view him from a talent perspective?

When I hear the people talking about KJ being done all I can think of is that game against Dallas and how he ran it down their throat all game long. The guy runs hard, doesnt go down easily and seems to be very motivated when it comes to rehab. He's not lazy by any stretch.

 

[Patoons]

KJ was just on NFL live and said that he is ahead of schedule and begins running this week. He also said that he hasn't set a date for his return (I think this is a given). He said that he welcomed the team bringing a back in and that he was excited that the team wasn't bringing Martz back and would have more balance on offense.Injuries aside, I have always been fairly impressed with KJ's play when he is healthy (I know that it isn't often). How do you guys view him from a talent perspective?

When I hear the people talking about KJ being done all I can think of is that game against Dallas and how he ran it down their throat all game long. The guy runs hard, doesnt go down easily and seems to be very motivated when it comes to rehab. He's not lazy by any stretch.

The problem is that he is clearly injury prone. He's gotten injured year after year. Dom. Davis also was a solid runner until he ran into injuries. I don't care how young this guy is, he just cannot stay healthy. I'd stay away - who knows how much longer he'll be in the league.

 

[radiohead417]

I'd say the only option for KJ fans is to hold. I tried to spin him for Vernon Davis (straight up!) and got turned down. I think he has some nice value, but unfortunately no one is buying. Perhaps a good time to buy low?

 

[Crimson King]

I don't want to sound like a KJ cheerleader, but the guy has talent. Yes, he's had his fair share of injuries, but does that mean it's time to give up on him? I just don't think so. Freddy Taylor had a bad spell with injuries in his career, but was able to continue to rehab and play quality football.

I might be crazy (and I can see the contrarian point of view) but I don't see the point of trying to trade KJ now for little value, when he potentially could be a very solid back if he could stay healthy (big if).

 

[Max Power]

The more I thnk about it, the more I think Detroit will go RB in the first. (assuming Mendenhall or Steward are still there)

Jones is as good as gone in 09 and there is no solution currently in FA right now. Not to mention that 15 spot in the draft looks like the right time for both these back to be going around.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I've seen several mocks that have the Lions taking a RB with their 1st round pick,how likely are they to do that?

Last year was their chance to draft a stud in the first round. A ton of Lions fans wanted AD, but they went for CJ instead which was the consensus pick. But at pick #15 this year, I don't see the value at RB. McFadden and Mendenhall will probably both be off the board at that point. And even if Mendenhall is there, I think there is better value at other positions.

 

[Traders2001]

What s new , Jones is never ready for week 1 and always out for week 14 to 17 .

The guy is just a total waste of a roster spot .

 

[Max Power]

I've seen several mocks that have the Lions taking a RB with their 1st round pick,how likely are they to do that?

Last year was their chance to draft a stud in the first round. A ton of Lions fans wanted AD, but they went for CJ instead which was the consensus pick. But at pick #15 this year, I don't see the value at RB. McFadden and Mendenhall will probably both be off the board at that point. And even if Mendenhall is there, I think there is better value at other positions.

Its funny because I think both could easily be on the board still. Maybe Carolina drafts one, but I don't see a whole lot of teams looking RB in rd 1 in the top 15.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

I saw one mock with only 2 RB going in the 1st. i think the feeling is that there are so many, that you can wait and get one later. Just think if you can get 1st round talent in the 2nd or maybe even 3rd.

 

[BigTex]

The JJ Express.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I've seen several mocks that have the Lions taking a RB with their 1st round pick,how likely are they to do that?

I'm throwing my Lions jersey off the CN Tower if that happens.

Why? It's certainly a position of enormous need right now for the Lions. They basically have one RB of any value on the roster and this thread is about him being seriously injured. They're going to have to add a running back or two at some point in the offseason. Could be FA, could be in the draft but if there's good value at RB at 15 then why not?I know they have lots of other gaping holes too but that's part of being a sucky team.

 

[Bri]

Kevin Jones is unlikely to be ready for Week 1, according to the Grand Rapids Press.The paper expects Detroit to re-sign one of T.J. Duckett and Tatum Bell and use a mid-round pick on a runner. All indications so far have been that Jones' rehab is going well, so we still wouldn't rule him out for the opener

love the first and last sentences

 

[baaloc1968]

Kevin Jones is unlikely to be ready for Week 1, according to the Grand Rapids Press.The paper expects Detroit to re-sign one of T.J. Duckett and Tatum Bell and use a mid-round pick on a runner. All indications so far have been that Jones' rehab is going well, so we still wouldn't rule him out for the opener

love the first and last sentences

Latest news is that Jones is two weeks ahead of schedule in his rehab and will begin running next week.

 

[Brutis]

Kevin Jones is unlikely to be ready for Week 1, according to the Grand Rapids Press.The paper expects Detroit to re-sign one of T.J. Duckett and Tatum Bell and use a mid-round pick on a runner. All indications so far have been that Jones' rehab is going well, so we still wouldn't rule him out for the opener

love the first and last sentences

Latest news is that Jones is two weeks ahead of schedule in his rehab and will begin running next week.

If this is true about him running next week then i dont see why he wouldnt be ready in sept.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I don't want to sound like a KJ cheerleader, but the guy has talent. Yes, he's had his fair share of injuries, but does that mean it's time to give up on him? I just don't think so. Freddy Taylor had a bad spell with injuries in his career, but was able to continue to rehab and play quality football.I might be crazy (and I can see the contrarian point of view) but I don't see the point of trying to trade KJ now for little value, when he potentially could be a very solid back if he could stay healthy (big if).

There's no doubt KJ has been prone to some serious injury issues throughout his career. I agree though that this may be the worst time to trade him. Hardly anyone believes in him anymore. Yet he has shown that he can produce at an elite RB level when healthy. It would be difficult to find a guy with a higher ceiling as your 4th RB. As KJ owners we just have to hope the Fred Taylor example is the way this thing plays out. First four seasons:Kevin Jones:46 games started 4073 total yards from scrimmage with 27 TDsFred Taylor:36 games started 4227 total yards from scrimmage with 37 TDs.Fred then played the next 46 games in a row and has only missed 8 games in the last six years. Posting 8751 yards from scrimmage and 32 TDs. KJ's averages obviously aren't as impressive as Fred Taylors in their first four years. Lets not forget that KJ has had Mike Martz and Steve (I love RBBC) Mariucci running his offenses.

 

[otb_lifer]

Kevin Jones is unlikely to be ready for Week 1, according to the Grand Rapids Press.

... and in related news, the sun rose in the east, and the tide came in ...

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Fred Taylor was 'injury prone' at one point.

So was Deshaun Foster.

And Brian Westbrook could never play a whole season.

And Shaun Alexander was indestructible.

People hate this answer, but injuries are random. There are just so many in the NFL that some guys get unlucky and have more than their fair share.

If you fully recover from a previous injury you're no more likely to suffer another one than the next guy. There's just no evidence for the idea of 'injury prone.'

Flip eight coins three times and one of them will come up tails three times. Is it tails-prone? No.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I don't want to sound like a KJ cheerleader, but the guy has talent. Yes, he's had his fair share of injuries, but does that mean it's time to give up on him? I just don't think so. Freddy Taylor had a bad spell with injuries in his career, but was able to continue to rehab and play quality football.I might be crazy (and I can see the contrarian point of view) but I don't see the point of trying to trade KJ now for little value, when he potentially could be a very solid back if he could stay healthy (big if).

There's no doubt KJ has been prone to some serious injury issues throughout his career. I agree though that this may be the worst time to trade him. Hardly anyone believes in him anymore. Yet he has shown that he can produce at an elite RB level when healthy. It would be difficult to find a guy with a higher ceiling as your 4th RB. As KJ owners we just have to hope the Fred Taylor example is the way this thing plays out. First four seasons:Kevin Jones:46 games started 4073 total yards from scrimmage with 27 TDsFred Taylor:36 games started 4227 total yards from scrimmage with 37 TDs.Fred then played the next 46 games in a row and has only missed 8 games in the last six years. Posting 8751 yards from scrimmage and 32 TDs. KJ's averages obviously aren't as impressive as Fred Taylors in their first four years. Lets not forget that KJ has had Mike Martz and Steve (I love RBBC) Mariucci running his offenses.

I don't think we can really compare KJ to Fred Taylor when it comes to talent or injuries. First, Fred Taylor has shown more talent and is one of the great RB's of the last decade. Second, Taylor was injury prone but KJ's injuries have been of the much more serious variety (torn ACL, Lisfranc, etc). I like KJ, but I think the Lions would be wise to look at other options at this point.