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Kevin Jones may lose his starting job..... (1 Viewer)

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New Lions coordinator Jim Colletto says the team's No. 1 offseason priority on offense is finding a new running back.

Kevin Jones (torn ACL) is expected to be ready by training camp, but this isn't a ringing endorsement. "We're going to look around," Colletto said. "I don't know how well Kevin Jones is going to respond to the injuries. We've got to find somebody who's going to be consistent." It sounds like Colletto may even be searching for a back to replace Jones as the starter.

 
New Lions coordinator Jim Colletto says the team's No. 1 offseason priority on offense is finding a new running back.Kevin Jones (torn ACL) is expected to be ready by training camp, but this isn't a ringing endorsement. "We're going to look around," Colletto said. "I don't know how well Kevin Jones is going to respond to the injuries. We've got to find somebody who's going to be consistent." It sounds like Colletto may even be searching for a back to replace Jones as the starter.
Maybe they don't use that 1st rounder on a WR this year after all. (We know they don't need to use it on...oh...let's say...defense)
 
would love to see Duckett lead a power running attack for the Lions. Dude has done nothing but perform when on the field yet he doesn't get a chance to start ever...

 
would love to see Duckett lead a power running attack for the Lions. Dude has done nothing but perform when on the field yet he doesn't get a chance to start ever...
Yeah, i would bring in a guy like Chris Brown (could have him cheap) and platoon him and Duckett.
 
would love to see Duckett lead a power running attack for the Lions. Dude has done nothing but perform when on the field yet he doesn't get a chance to start ever...
He actually performed well last year - it wouldn't shock me if he went into camp as the guy to beat.
 
I'm curious how much validity to give this Schefter report from December. I was very high on Calhoun coming out of Wisconsin and reportedly the Lions remain high on him also as of 1 month ago(?)

Latest notes 12/27/2007 7:26:00 PM et NFL Network’s Adam Schefter reports the Lions are "very high" on injured running back Brian Calhoun. Schefter adds that the Lions intend to re-sign T.J. Duckett, but could use him and Calhoun until Kevin Jones (knee) returns. However, Calhoun has torn his ACL twice since entering the league. The Lions will likely go back to the free agent and trade market this offseason to find another stopgap solution.
 
I think they could go cheap and run with a committee of Mewelde Moore and TJ Duckett. The two would compliment each other nicely, maybe giving the O-coordinator something decent to work with while allowing the team to make more significant upgrades elsewhere.

 
I think they could go cheap and run with a committee of Mewelde Moore and TJ Duckett. The two would compliment each other nicely, maybe giving the O-coordinator something decent to work with while allowing the team to make more significant upgrades elsewhere.
I think if K Jones gets healthy he's better than either of those guys.
 
I think they could go cheap and run with a committee of Mewelde Moore and TJ Duckett. The two would compliment each other nicely, maybe giving the O-coordinator something decent to work with while allowing the team to make more significant upgrades elsewhere.
I think if K Jones gets healthy he's better than either of those guys.
I think Moore and K Jones are actually very close in ability.
 
Trade Julius Jones for Roy Williams and Dallas throw in a 3rd or 4th round pick.
and two 1sts. with this crop of rookie backs julius isn't worth a 3rd by himself.
two firsts and a RB for Roy Williams. :hey: Roy Williams has had ONE 1000+ yard season and has finished all 16 games ONCE. JJ is a free agent anyway. Detroit can just have him. He is just like the Lions anyway....lots of hype, no results.
 
would love to see Duckett lead a power running attack for the Lions. Dude has done nothing but perform when on the field yet he doesn't get a chance to start ever...
Yeah, i would bring in a guy like Chris Brown (could have him cheap) and platoon him and Duckett.
Chris Brown???? I thought they said they wanted someone consistent?
Hey, we all want an LT or a Martin, but unless they go RB early in the draft, they will be platooning again.
 
would love to see Duckett lead a power running attack for the Lions. Dude has done nothing but perform when on the field yet he doesn't get a chance to start ever...
Yeah, i would bring in a guy like Chris Brown (could have him cheap) and platoon him and Duckett.
Chris Brown???? I thought they said they wanted someone consistent?
Hmm, this could work - between the two of them they'd have one healthy back.
 
I just saw in interview with Colletto...just hearing him talk the Lions may have a full house backfield next year. Seems like he likes things very simple.

 
cstu said:
would love to see Duckett lead a power running attack for the Lions. Dude has done nothing but perform when on the field yet he doesn't get a chance to start ever...
Yeah, i would bring in a guy like Chris Brown (could have him cheap) and platoon him and Duckett.
Chris Brown???? I thought they said they wanted someone consistent?
Hmm, this could work - between the two of them they'd have one healthy back.
That was my thinking. Seriously, he would come cheap and still has some explosion. All you need is one healthy RB1.
 
I think they could go cheap and run with a committee of Mewelde Moore and TJ Duckett. The two would compliment each other nicely, maybe giving the O-coordinator something decent to work with while allowing the team to make more significant upgrades elsewhere.
I think if K Jones gets healthy he's better than either of those guys.
I think Moore and K Jones are actually very close in ability.
maybe, but I'd be much more concerned if I were a KJ owner if the Lions drafted a guy on the first day than if they signed Mewelde Moore.
 
I think they could go cheap and run with a committee of Mewelde Moore and TJ Duckett. The two would compliment each other nicely, maybe giving the O-coordinator something decent to work with while allowing the team to make more significant upgrades elsewhere.
I think if K Jones gets healthy he's better than either of those guys.
I think Moore and K Jones are actually very close in ability.
maybe, but I'd be much more concerned if I were a KJ owner if the Lions drafted a guy on the first day than if they signed Mewelde Moore.
Being in Detroit and watching his career, I think he is one of the top RB's in the league. I worry more about these 3 issues- injuries, O-line, and play calling more than who they bring in. He has proven to be effective in both fantasy and NFL when he is on the field and the Lions are not killing his value!
 
It's not really surprising. How can you plan to build around a guy that has shown no ability to stay healthy? He's a good back when he's healthy but how often is that?

 
Banger said:
It's not really surprising. How can you plan to build around a guy that has shown no ability to stay healthy? He's a good back when he's healthy but how often is that?
Almost exactly what I was about to post.Teams value a lot of things in a RB, but dependability is right near the top. Once a guy develops a history of not being available over and over again due to injury (3rd year in a row sidelined multiple games with serious injury, and dinged several times beyond that), he has to be very special for a team to continue to stay loyal to him. But K Jones has had YPCs of 3.6, 3.8, and 3.8 in 2005-2007, so why not look for a more reliable, sturdier back? It only makes sense.
 
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cstu said:
would love to see Duckett lead a power running attack for the Lions. Dude has done nothing but perform when on the field yet he doesn't get a chance to start ever...
Yeah, i would bring in a guy like Chris Brown (could have him cheap) and platoon him and Duckett.
Chris Brown???? I thought they said they wanted someone consistent?
Hmm, this could work - between the two of them they'd have one healthy back.
If you have two healthy backs, you have no healthy backs.Or something like that. :thumbup:
 
Have Calhoun's injury concerns subsided? I'd be willing to give him a shot if I were the Lions, he was definitely productive at UW. They run a zone blocking scheme similar to Denver's that's pretty runningback friendly at Wisconsin, so I'd have to see more NFL field time before I knew if he was a legit candidate.

 
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January 24, 2008

RB Jones Says He's Ahead Of Schedule

Tom Kowalski, MLive.com

Lions RB Kevin Jones disputed HC Rod Miranelli's belief that the team needed to address the running back position. "We have other issues (in free agency) and running back isn't one of them," Jones said. "As far as injuries, yeah. But as far as talent and getting the job done, no." Jones said that he's already off his crutches stemming from ACL surgery to his right knee and that he's ahead of his four to six months recovery time. "These (ACL repair surgeries) don't end careers. I'll be back for (training) camp, I'm not worried at all." Jones returned early from Lisfranc surgery and rushed for 581 yards and eight touchdowns before suffering his knee injury.

 
If i am the lions, all my skilled positions and the OL are on the bubble or block, except maybe Calvin) along with rogers...

Jones should be the favorite to start in name only.... Roy, should be traded while value around the league is perceived high, rogers needs to go to away.. kitna is a walking fossil...

sign julius or Turner as a FA, let Jones hold onto a 1year deal.. send williams to Miami or Tampa for pick(s), send rodgers somewhere for pick(s) draft and sign a dozen OL.and your hosed at QB, no one available other than kitna is going to keep you semi competitive, get one of the top 2 QBs at the draft and groom him.. yeah, stanton... good luck with that

 
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Banger said:
It's not really surprising. How can you plan to build around a guy that has shown no ability to stay healthy? He's a good back when he's healthy but how often is that?
Almost exactly what I was about to post.Teams value a lot of things in a RB, but dependability is right near the top. Once a guy develops a history of not being available over and over again due to injury (3rd year in a row sidelined multiple games with serious injury, and dinged several times beyond that), he has to be very special for a team to continue to stay loyal to him. But K Jones has had YPCs of 3.6, 3.8, and 3.8 in 2005-2007, so why not look for a more reliable, sturdier back? It only makes sense.
How many RBs have played without getting hurt? Yes, that is the ideal, but the reality is that RBs frequently get hurt. Last year? SJax--hurt. LJ--hurt. Lynch--hurt. Alexander--hurt. A. Peterson-hurt. Reggie Bush--hurt. Deuce--hurt. Caddy--hurt. Jordan--hurt. B. Jacobs--hurt. Ronnie Brown--hurt. All of these guys missed signficant time. One of the best backs in recent years, Fred Taylor, was hurt so often early in his career we USED to call him Fragile Fred. For quite a few years now he has not been hurt. Luck or bad luck, has a lot to do with injuries. KJ has shown an ability to come back quickly and effectively from injuries. Given that injuries will happen, that is a good quality.
 
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Banger said:
It's not really surprising. How can you plan to build around a guy that has shown no ability to stay healthy? He's a good back when he's healthy but how often is that?
Almost exactly what I was about to post.Teams value a lot of things in a RB, but dependability is right near the top. Once a guy develops a history of not being available over and over again due to injury (3rd year in a row sidelined multiple games with serious injury, and dinged several times beyond that), he has to be very special for a team to continue to stay loyal to him. But K Jones has had YPCs of 3.6, 3.8, and 3.8 in 2005-2007, so why not look for a more reliable, sturdier back? It only makes sense.
How many RBs have played without getting hurt? Yes, that is the ideal, but the reality is that RBs frequently get hurt. Last year? SJax--hurt. LJ--hurt. Lynch--hurt. Alexander--hurt. A. Peterson-hurt. Reggie Bush--hurt. Deuce--hurt. Caddy--hurt. Jordan--hurt. B. Jacobs--hurt. Ronnie Brown--hurt. All of these guys missed signficant time. One of the best backs in recent years, Fred Taylor, was hurt so often early in his career we USED to call him Fragile Fred. For quite a few years now he has not been hurt. Luck or bad luck, has a lot to do with injuries. KJ has shown an ability to come back quickly and effectively from injuries. Given that injuries will happen, that is a good quality.
Three straight seasons he's missed multiple games, and he hasn't been completely healthy in any of his 4 seasons. And how is 3 straight years of 3.8-and-under YPCs considered effective? You can argue with me all you want, but the reality is the Lions are looking around for a RB. That's not my argument, that's a statement from their OC. I guess you really should address this with the OC.

 
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Banger said:
It's not really surprising. How can you plan to build around a guy that has shown no ability to stay healthy? He's a good back when he's healthy but how often is that?
Almost exactly what I was about to post.Teams value a lot of things in a RB, but dependability is right near the top. Once a guy develops a history of not being available over and over again due to injury (3rd year in a row sidelined multiple games with serious injury, and dinged several times beyond that), he has to be very special for a team to continue to stay loyal to him. But K Jones has had YPCs of 3.6, 3.8, and 3.8 in 2005-2007, so why not look for a more reliable, sturdier back? It only makes sense.
How many RBs have played without getting hurt? Yes, that is the ideal, but the reality is that RBs frequently get hurt. Last year? SJax--hurt. LJ--hurt. Lynch--hurt. Alexander--hurt. A. Peterson-hurt. Reggie Bush--hurt. Deuce--hurt. Caddy--hurt. Jordan--hurt. B. Jacobs--hurt. Ronnie Brown--hurt. All of these guys missed signficant time. One of the best backs in recent years, Fred Taylor, was hurt so often early in his career we USED to call him Fragile Fred. For quite a few years now he has not been hurt. Luck or bad luck, has a lot to do with injuries. KJ has shown an ability to come back quickly and effectively from injuries. Given that injuries will happen, that is a good quality.
Three straight seasons he's missed multiple games, and he hasn't been completely healthy in any of his 4 seasons. And how is 3 straight years of 3.8-and-under YPCs considered effective? You can argue with me all you want, but the reality is the Lions are looking around for a RB. That's not my argument, that's a statement from their OC. I guess you really should address this with the OC.
When you have one of the worst rushing OL's in the league 3.8 IS effective. How well did LJ do this year with KC's line in decline?I appreciate your suggestion about the OC, and just like last year when Bell and Duckett were brought in and everyone said KJ was done and Bell would replace him, I think I'll wait at least until preseason before I start to take what he says too seriously. I expect competition to be brought in--it only makes sense. I expect a new OC or HC to try and motivate veteran players just like Cam did in Miami last year.

 

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