Jason Wood
Zoo York
I just listened back to the Andy presser from this morning and he said he can't guarantee that Kolb will be on the roster after the NFL trade deadline. 
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Insein
Footballguy
If I want an open field runner, I'll use McCoy or Desean or Maclin. I want a guy who can move in the pocket enough to throw for 300 yards a game. McNabb still has that. Vick has never had that before and even in these 2 games, I havent seen the ability in this new version.
Browns have already called: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ght-about-kolb/
This is actually worse news IMO for Kolb owners than him getting benched. At least on Philly he has a chance to produce if Vick gets hurt or sucks and they decide to switch back. Cleveland is just fantasy death until they get him someone to throw to.
This is actually worse news IMO for Kolb owners than him getting benched. At least on Philly he has a chance to produce if Vick gets hurt or sucks and they decide to switch back. Cleveland is just fantasy death until they get him someone to throw to.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
at Philly fans. You guys have a well earned, and well deserved, reputation.at Philly fans. You guys have a well earned, and well deserved, reputation.
What does your statement have to do with Kolb? Just trying to start some ####?
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
For starters, many Eagles fans (admittedly not all - Wood, etc.) were giddy to have Kolb instead of McNabb. Now they're delighted to dump Kolb and run with Vick.This is part of the reason I can never root for this team. Perhaps the worst fans in football.
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vinwinephans
Footballguy
So glad we got that cleared up. I always wondered about you...For starters, many Eagles fans (admittedly not all - Wood, etc.) were giddy to have Kolb instead of McNabb. Now they're delighted to dump Kolb and run with Vick.This is part of the reason I can never root for this team. Perhaps the worst fans in football.What does your statement have to do with Kolb? Just trying to start some ####?
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
I wasn't comparing Vick to McNabb, so you can put your conclusion mat away. McNabb blows him out of the water as a QB.I was pointing out to the guy who said 'get used to .500 football with Vick as the QB, blah, blah, blah' that Vick hasn't been a .500 QB.That is all.Vick = 40-30 overall, 2-2 in playoffsMcNabb = 101-56 overall, 9-7 in playoffs
Eagle fans are obnoxious but this is no time to gloat. I said earlier and I'll say again, this is outstanding news for the Eagles. They did not make a mistake trading Mcnabb. They got a second round pick and got younger at the QB position. Add in they probably get at least a #2 for Kolb and I don't see how things could have gone much better for the Eagles.For starters, many Eagles fans (admittedly not all - Wood, etc.) were giddy to have Kolb instead of McNabb. Now they're delighted to dump Kolb and run with Vick.This is part of the reason I can never root for this team. Perhaps the worst fans in football.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
they're the worst fans in football because they have faith in what the coaches / management are doing and think the eagles are making the right move? that makes a whole lotta sense. they're the worst fans for being the definition of a fan... OK buddy.(FWIW i'm not an eagles fan, i just found this statement pretty ridiculous.)For starters, many Eagles fans (admittedly not all - Wood, etc.) were giddy to have Kolb instead of McNabb. Now they're delighted to dump Kolb and run with Vick.This is part of the reason I can never root for this team. Perhaps the worst fans in football.What does your statement have to do with Kolb? Just trying to start some ####?
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Insein
Footballguy
Then you are extremely short sighted. a) They could have kept McNabb, traded Kolb and Vick and then drafted a QB for the future if they felt Kolb was not going to be IT.Eagle fans are obnoxious but this is no time to gloat. I said earlier and I'll say again, this is outstanding news for the Eagles. They did not make a mistake trading Mcnabb. They got a second round pick and got younger at the QB position. Add in they probably get at least a #2 for Kolb and I don't see how things could have gone much better for the Eagles.For starters, many Eagles fans (admittedly not all - Wood, etc.) were giddy to have Kolb instead of McNabb. Now they're delighted to dump Kolb and run with Vick.This is part of the reason I can never root for this team. Perhaps the worst fans in football.
b) They could have kept Kolb. Traded McNabb and Vick. Signed a veteran backup like Bulger to guide Kolb through his early years. Once you determine after a full season whether Kolb is worth investing long term into, you go with it or you move on and draft a new QB to start with.
Those are 2 infinitely better scenarios than:
c) Trade McNabb. Keep Kolb. Keep Vick. Declare Kolb the starter. Dump Kolb for Vick after 1 half of play. Go with a QB who has never proven to be a good passer in the league as your 1 year starter and setting back any progress on a guy you've been grooming for 4 years.
well, mebbe they think michael vick gives the eagles a better chance to win nfl football games than kevin kolb? i dont get how you think ppl should commit to compounding mistakes.Welcome aboard. Here's my thing:hope thats a 3 man boat cause i need a place to sit tooYou and me both DHDeranged Hermit said:I got EVISCERATED for saying we made a mistake trading McNabb and going with Kolb. Eviscerated. And now? Those same people are GIDDY we're opting for Vick after two games.
1) I get wanting McNabb out (I was in the minority on the other side obviously)
2) I get wanting McNabb to say (I was in that camp)
3) I get committing to Kolb and finding out what we have in him
4) I get starting Vick if Reid thinks he's better
5) I DON'T get how the same fans who praised the decision to part with McNabb can now cheer the decision to play Vick
Weak.Then you are extremely short sighted. a) They could have kept McNabb, traded Kolb and Vick and then drafted a QB for the future if they felt Kolb was not going to be IT.Eagle fans are obnoxious but this is no time to gloat. I said earlier and I'll say again, this is outstanding news for the Eagles. They did not make a mistake trading Mcnabb. They got a second round pick and got younger at the QB position. Add in they probably get at least a #2 for Kolb and I don't see how things could have gone much better for the Eagles.For starters, many Eagles fans (admittedly not all - Wood, etc.) were giddy to have Kolb instead of McNabb. Now they're delighted to dump Kolb and run with Vick.This is part of the reason I can never root for this team. Perhaps the worst fans in football.
b) They could have kept Kolb. Traded McNabb and Vick. Signed a veteran backup like Bulger to guide Kolb through his early years. Once you determine after a full season whether Kolb is worth investing long term into, you go with it or you move on and draft a new QB to start with.
Those are 2 infinitely better scenarios than:
c) Trade McNabb. Keep Kolb. Keep Vick. Declare Kolb the starter. Dump Kolb for Vick after 1 half of play. Go with a QB who has never proven to be a good passer in the league as your 1 year starter and setting back any progress on a guy you've been grooming for 4 years.
Option A is no good. Vick had little to no trade value entering this season. If a team wanted Vick they could have signed him last year.
Option B- Again no good because Vick had no trade value.
Option C- Get trade value for both Mcnabb and Kolb while keeping the one QB who had little to no trade value but is probably the best QB of the 3 for the current makeup of this team while at the same time getting about 4 years younger at the position from last year. Win, win, win.
does anyone know the specifics of the contract situations for kolb and mcnabb?
kolb is only getting paid 12.2m over 2 yrs. thats pretty cheap for a starting caliber qb and actually a pretty small investment to see if the guy is a worthwhile franchise qb.
now, its also my understanding that mcnabb was gonna be a free agent after this season, and likely to command a large contract for an aging qb.
i dunno, it seems like the decision to eschew mcnabb for kolb was in part financial. they didnt want to commit top dollar to a qb entering his twilight. they were able to get some valuable draft picks for him. and they can pay kolb an low end starters salary over just 2 yrs before making a bigger commitment to him.
now, they have concluded that vick gives them a better chance to win nfl football games so he gets to play qb. it doesnt look as bad as ppl are making it out to be. just bc they may have misvalued kolb and mcnabb in april, doesnt mean they should be stubborn at the expense of winning.
kolb is only getting paid 12.2m over 2 yrs. thats pretty cheap for a starting caliber qb and actually a pretty small investment to see if the guy is a worthwhile franchise qb.
now, its also my understanding that mcnabb was gonna be a free agent after this season, and likely to command a large contract for an aging qb.
i dunno, it seems like the decision to eschew mcnabb for kolb was in part financial. they didnt want to commit top dollar to a qb entering his twilight. they were able to get some valuable draft picks for him. and they can pay kolb an low end starters salary over just 2 yrs before making a bigger commitment to him.
now, they have concluded that vick gives them a better chance to win nfl football games so he gets to play qb. it doesnt look as bad as ppl are making it out to be. just bc they may have misvalued kolb and mcnabb in april, doesnt mean they should be stubborn at the expense of winning.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
I'm with Jason and the other Eagles fans in that boat who didn't like seeing McNabb get traded. I could live with it because there'd been ongoing tension for awhile regarding McNabb and whether he should stay. So a fresh page for team and McNabb didn't seem terrible.
But this whole turn of events makes me sad as a fan because it sure doesn't look like the organization knows what they are doing. It is not that I am such a huge Kolb fan, but the trade sure made it seem like the Eagles are. And if that is so, how do you bench a guy after he played less than a half of one game since you made the call. And, if you then go and trade him, but kind of depth is left for the team at QB?
But this whole turn of events makes me sad as a fan because it sure doesn't look like the organization knows what they are doing. It is not that I am such a huge Kolb fan, but the trade sure made it seem like the Eagles are. And if that is so, how do you bench a guy after he played less than a half of one game since you made the call. And, if you then go and trade him, but kind of depth is left for the team at QB?
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Might be other sites with this info but if you go to Rotoworld and look up the player there is a section providing pretty in depth contract details. It's free.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Let's not pretend Eagles fans loved McNabb while he was there but said in Reid we trust! when the team decided to go in another direction. They were happy to be rid of him.they're the worst fans in football because they have faith in what the coaches / management are doing and think the eagles are making the right move? that makes a whole lotta sense. they're the worst fans for being the definition of a fan... OK buddy.(FWIW i'm not an eagles fan, i just found this statement pretty ridiculous.)For starters, many Eagles fans (admittedly not all - Wood, etc.) were giddy to have Kolb instead of McNabb. Now they're delighted to dump Kolb and run with Vick.This is part of the reason I can never root for this team. Perhaps the worst fans in football.
identikit
Footballguy
per Jeff MaClane, Phily beat reporter:
Source: No truth to Kolb/Browns report
It seems the Kevin Kolb draft rumors have begun circulating.
The first: A report that the Cleveland Browns contacted the Eagles Tuesday night about acquiring the now-backup quarterback to Michael Vick.
Not true "whatsoever," said a source close to the situation.
Earlier Wednesday morning, Eagles coach Andy Reid could not defintively say that Kolb would not be traded by the Oct. 19 trade deadline.
However, asked if he would listed to trade offers for the 26-year-old, Reid said, "No, I want Kevin Kolb on this football team."
A day earlier, Reid said that Kolb had not asked for a trade. Kolb was asked Wednesday about the possibility of playing for another team.
"Right now I'm focused on, 'I have to be this way,'" Reid said. "I have to focus on, 'What if I have to go in against Jacksonville.'"
He did seem to leave the door open for a career change with this answer to a question about Reid's loyalty:
"So far to this point he's done what's best for my career," Kolb said. "I trust him and I think this will work out the way it's supposed to."
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eag...wns_report.html
Source: No truth to Kolb/Browns report
It seems the Kevin Kolb draft rumors have begun circulating.
The first: A report that the Cleveland Browns contacted the Eagles Tuesday night about acquiring the now-backup quarterback to Michael Vick.
Not true "whatsoever," said a source close to the situation.
Earlier Wednesday morning, Eagles coach Andy Reid could not defintively say that Kolb would not be traded by the Oct. 19 trade deadline.
However, asked if he would listed to trade offers for the 26-year-old, Reid said, "No, I want Kevin Kolb on this football team."
A day earlier, Reid said that Kolb had not asked for a trade. Kolb was asked Wednesday about the possibility of playing for another team.
"Right now I'm focused on, 'I have to be this way,'" Reid said. "I have to focus on, 'What if I have to go in against Jacksonville.'"
He did seem to leave the door open for a career change with this answer to a question about Reid's loyalty:
"So far to this point he's done what's best for my career," Kolb said. "I trust him and I think this will work out the way it's supposed to."
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eag...wns_report.html
Ksquared
Footballguy
For those that think Vick is the answer because of his great record in Atlanta. You are forgetting a major key to his success in Atlanta - running the ball. Similiar to V Young right now in Tennessee, running lanes open up for him or the RB because the defense has to take away one or the other quite often. Unless there is a RB I don't know about in Philly and Reid is going to start calling closer to 50/50 split on the run/passes - Vick is not going to have the same success as he had in Atlanta unless his passing accuracy has improved dramatically.
zadok
Footballguy
Vick is a UFA after this season.Trading Kolb would be a big mistake. Fine, let Vick take the season, trade him at the end of the season, focus on the O-line this offseason, and let Kolb take us to the promised land.
Well, there is this guy McCoy on the team that is averaging 6.7 ypc and has 4 TD's in two games. Vick this year is completing 64% of his passes with a 105.5 QB rating - prior to that his career comp% was 54%.
I don't think Atlanta is relevant. The question is whether Vick can do in the next 14 games what he has done in the first 6 quarters for the Eagles.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I saw the presser too. To be fair that's not all that he said. And he was contradictory (chalk it up to coach speak and gamesmanship/tarding etc). [the following quotes are paraphrases as best I can remember from the presser]He was asked is Kolb guaranteed to be here next year, and he said "I can't guarantee anything this is the NFL things move quickly"Then in 2 follow ups on the topic in response to 'will you look at offers given for kevin kolb" he said 'no I wasnt kevin kolb on this football yteam"so who knows what is going on...I just listened back to the Andy presser from this morning and he said he can't guarantee that Kolb will be on the roster after the NFL trade deadline.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Then you are extremely short sighted. a) They could have kept McNabb, traded Kolb and Vick and then drafted a QB for the future if they felt Kolb was not going to be IT.Eagle fans are obnoxious but this is no time to gloat. I said earlier and I'll say again, this is outstanding news for the Eagles. They did not make a mistake trading Mcnabb. They got a second round pick and got younger at the QB position. Add in they probably get at least a #2 for Kolb and I don't see how things could have gone much better for the Eagles.For starters, many Eagles fans (admittedly not all - Wood, etc.) were giddy to have Kolb instead of McNabb. Now they're delighted to dump Kolb and run with Vick.This is part of the reason I can never root for this team. Perhaps the worst fans in football.What does your statement have to do with Kolb? Just trying to start some ####?
b) They could have kept Kolb. Traded McNabb and Vick. Signed a veteran backup like Bulger to guide Kolb through his early years. Once you determine after a full season whether Kolb is worth investing long term into, you go with it or you move on and draft a new QB to start with.
Those are 2 infinitely better scenarios than:
c) Trade McNabb. Keep Kolb. Keep Vick. Declare Kolb the starter. Dump Kolb for Vick after 1 half of play. Go with a QB who has never proven to be a good passer in the league as your 1 year starter and setting back any progress on a guy you've been grooming for 4 years.
silly igglesscenario C is pretty awesome. Why the need to thrust Kolb in the spotlight now? Money? it's not your money, and there's no cap this year (something that obviously played into the Eagles gameplan this year, as I doubt a team could feasibly carry that much $$ in QB cap and field a decent team) I know In my leagues I have pretty solid backups, and just beause I have good backups doesn't make me want to trade away my talent for nothing. And the market for Vick was pretty bad, he wasn't gonna bring much in a trade (though he's easily worth 5-10x what he was then in 'trade value').
Sorry all the iggles fanboys are gonna have to shelve their Kevin Kolb FATHEADS.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
You're looking at this the wrong way. Kolb is no longer an asset to the Eagles. He is a huge anvil of lost $$$. If they keep Kolb, he will cost them $12m! to sit on their bench behind Vick, who is a former pro-bowler and only getting $5m. If Kolb is not starting he is costing them huge $$ for nothing. The Eagles transfer Kobe to someone else they would be dancing in the streets! 1st rounder, lol. They would probably take a bag of chips and a diet coke if they could.Deranged Hermit said:
They would not take less than a second rounder for him. $5m for a backup is not cheap but they had no hesitancy in paying that to keep Vick so they've already shown they are willing to pay a backup good money. As for a team trying to acquire Kolb his salary is a lot less than what you would have to pay a first round pick plus he's already been groomed. I have no idea if the Eagles will trade Kolb but if they do I don't think it's going to be to get out of paying his salary in a non cap year. Rolling with Kafka as your backup would probably make them uneasy. My guess is if Kolb gets traded it won't be anytime soon but close to the deadline. That way the Eagles get a few weeks preview with Vick to make absolute certain he's the direction they want to go, protect them from a Vick injury for a few additional weeks, and lastly if they decide they want to go with Vick long term they might be able to work out a contract extension with Vick before getting rid of Kolb. With regards to Vicks contract extension I think they can get a bargain for him if they give him some guaranteed money now. He's 30 and was apparently broke after his prison time. He's made up some money the last few years but is not even close to the financial position he was once in. With a possible lockout next year if Vick did not get guaranteed money in hand now he might not get any money until 2012 at which point he would negotiating a contract at the age of 32.
Clifton
Footballguy
At least on Hawk saw this coming.
I throw bulls eyes Some of you folks might want to do a search on my posts.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Whatever Sal Pal reports about the Eagles, believe the opposite.
He is persona non grata with the front office, and some folks there deliberately feed him bad info.
If Sal Pal says the Eagles are trying to trade Kolb, it means the Eagles are not trying to trade Kolb.
He is persona non grata with the front office, and some folks there deliberately feed him bad info.
If Sal Pal says the Eagles are trying to trade Kolb, it means the Eagles are not trying to trade Kolb.
renesauz
IBL Representative
That's funny, because the first thing out of most Giants fans, Skins fans, and Boys fans the last few year after a loss to Philly has been : "You guys STILL have never won the one the counts that most." I would gladly trade a few bad years for one ring.Liquid Tension said:I don't agree with this. getting deep in the playoffs and having competitive teams all the time does matter. Some may differ, but I would rather have 10 years of making the playoffs and a few championship games and maybe a SB loss than 9 years of watching a crappy team who doesn't make the playoffs, but then one year wins the SB. 9 years of misery for 1 great year? I would rather enjoy my team for 10 good yearsInsein said:
Everything else is window dressing. We haven't had Success in 50 years.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
renesauz
IBL Representative
Need a cruise ship. We were on opposing sides with McNabb...but understood each other. The Vick love right now makes no sense at all.this boat is crowdedAs for #5 that's simple. This is Philadelphia after allWelcome aboard. Here's my thing:1) I get wanting McNabb out (I was in the minority on the other side obviously)2) I get wanting McNabb to say (I was in that camp)3) I get committing to Kolb and finding out what we have in him4) I get starting Vick if Reid thinks he's better5) I DON'T get how the same fans who praised the decision to part with McNabb can now cheer the decision to play Vickhope thats a 3 man boat cause i need a place to sit tooYou and me both DHDeranged Hermit said:
renesauz
IBL Representative
YES! That's exactly what they should do. Where in the world did this idea come from that teams should only start young relatively unproven QB's on bad teams? In my mind, THAT's the ridiculous time to start them. Kolb fits the profile of a championship team QB (accurate pocket QB), Vick does not (inacurate scrambler who relies on his legs too much).Insein, you seem really bent on the idea that the Eagles should give Kolb time to struggle, learn, and eventually be a stud. But what if he's doesn't turn out to be good? What if after giving him all that money and wasting time developing him, he turns out to be just average?Vick, on the other hand, has shown that he can be a good player NOW. Don't worry about 5 years down the road. For all we know, Kafka could be a stud by then.That is where I disagree with you. If we had to suffer through 9 years of mess to build a team that won a super Bowl, I'd take it. Take the 07 Giants. They weren't that good for about 3 or 4 years. Pretty mediocre even but they turned it on and won a Bowl. I'd settle for that then building a perennial contender that always loses. If Vick does that for us this year, then I'll be happy. I just don't see that happening.Liquid Tension said:I don't agree with this. getting deep in the playoffs and having competitive teams all the time does matter. Some may differ, but I would rather have 10 years of making the playoffs and a few championship games and maybe a SB loss than 9 years of watching a crappy team who doesn't make the playoffs, but then one year wins the SB. 9 years of misery for 1 great year? I would rather enjoy my team for 10 good yearsInsein said:
Super Bowl = Success
Everything else is window dressing. We haven't had Success in 50 years.
Also, your Giants 07 SB story....Eli wasn't great that year....the Giants defense was. Their defense is what got them to the SB.
renesauz
IBL Representative
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
I don't want to go off on a tangent, but good QB's (which Eli is...not great) look mediocre when a guy breaks clean on 80% of the passes. the Giant OL is horrific.getting back to the Eagles; it was a very bad idea to get rid of McNabb IMO; he was always under appreciated by the Philly "fans"...I guess the same people who booed Mike Schmidt, but Vick is a better QB than Kolb IMO. Even when Vick wasn't too accurate, there was a very good reason why the running attack with Vick is so good and that is he simply tires out the defensive line. That being said, to keep Vick fresh, i would have another QB to give Vick a rest once in awhile and have that QB run some very specific plays that they work on each week. It is impossible for Vick not to get exhausted after awhile and I would give him a blow just like a RB who had a big gain.
Kolb may fit your description of an accurate pocket QB, but until he learns how to not worry so much about the defense coming to sack him and focus on completing his passes, he'll NEVER be any good to any team. It's like he gets anxious and scared of getting hit so he loses focus.I still think that Andy and company have seen Kolb struggle enough that he might not turn into the franchise stud QB that they first envisioned him to be.
dhockster
Footballguy
C is a better option than B. Assume the first game plays out the same with Kolb getting hurt. Now imagine Bulger coming in. Do you see him being able to dowhat Vick did in rallying the team? Not Likely. Could you imagine Bulger getting knocked out of the game the same way Kolb did? Most definitely.Then you are extremely short sighted. a) They could have kept McNabb, traded Kolb and Vick and then drafted a QB for the future if they felt Kolb was not going to be IT.Eagle fans are obnoxious but this is no time to gloat. I said earlier and I'll say again, this is outstanding news for the Eagles. They did not make a mistake trading Mcnabb. They got a second round pick and got younger at the QB position. Add in they probably get at least a #2 for Kolb and I don't see how things could have gone much better for the Eagles.For starters, many Eagles fans (admittedly not all - Wood, etc.) were giddy to have Kolb instead of McNabb. Now they're delighted to dump Kolb and run with Vick.This is part of the reason I can never root for this team. Perhaps the worst fans in football.
b) They could have kept Kolb. Traded McNabb and Vick. Signed a veteran backup like Bulger to guide Kolb through his early years. Once you determine after a full season whether Kolb is worth investing long term into, you go with it or you move on and draft a new QB to start with.
Those are 2 infinitely better scenarios than:
c) Trade McNabb. Keep Kolb. Keep Vick. Declare Kolb the starter. Dump Kolb for Vick after 1 half of play. Go with a QB who has never proven to be a good passer in the league as your 1 year starter and setting back any progress on a guy you've been grooming for 4 years.
Okay, so assume the Eagles got routed by GB, but Bulger survived to play in week 2. Do you see him having the type of performance Vick did? Not likely. Do you see McCoy having as great a day without the defense having to worry about what the QB is doing every play? Not likely. Odds are with Bulger starting that game, the Eagles lose to the Lions.
Okay, now the Eagles are 0-2, and you have to bring back Kevin Kolb to start with the offensive line not in a good place. Sure you may find out just what you have with Kolb at QB, but you could also be dooming him the way Houston doomed David Carr by not having a good offensive line for him to develop behind.
You assume that because Vick has never proven to be a good passer, that he never can be a good passer. I think because of his current performance and his physical gifts you have to find out if he can be a good passer against quality defenses. He may turn out to be the same old Michael Vick. But if he has changed and has actually dedicated himself to studying film and working to get better (things he said he did not do with Atlanta), then he is the guy you probably want to try to sign to a 4 year deal. Believe me, all the other NFC East teams would much rather game plan against Kevin Kolb than a smarter, more accurate, Michael Vick.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
Andy Reid on the Herd this morning said he would not trade Kolb contrary to his presser yesterday.
Andy Reid "said"= Zero
Insein
Footballguy
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
Is there any actual news in this thread?
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
No. Anything out of Sal Pal's mouth about the Eagles definitely does not constitute "news."
I'd rather check the Shark Pool to see if DH or GKing weigh in on an issue before I'd listen to Sal Pal for Eagles news.The talk is they will honor his contract and he is still the future in Philly. If a trade does come, it will not be during this season for sure. However lots of promises are made and broken pretty regular in the NFL. Seems that Philly is on the excessive side of the average.
The Indestructible
Footballguy
So what do you do with Kolb? If a trade isn't looking likely, is he even worth rostering?
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Yes. He's one Mike Vick injury/bad start/dead dog away from being a viable fantasy starter.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
How's your bud handling it? Did he get the sense Andy wasn't behind him from the start?
Winky the tunnel ferret
Footballguy
If you have small rosters then okay cut him. But if you can afford to roster him you need to do it. I think he'll have the job back by week 10. Or Vick will play so well we'll know by week 6 to cut him then.But cutting Kolb after Vick has one great game against the Lions is foolish.
JahVideo_Kilt_Radio_Star
Footballguy
McNabb dealt. Kolb bombs in his 1st start as franchise QB, is benched & then dealt. Vick then bombs.
Philly left with no franchise QB. How likely is it?
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Count me in the crowd that Vick won't last taking as many hits as he has through ~6 quarters of action.
Philly left with no franchise QB. How likely is it?
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Count me in the crowd that Vick won't last taking as many hits as he has through ~6 quarters of action.
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