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KJ is back (1 Viewer)
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Routilla
Footballguy
If only they were a better team with a better OL, WR, QB and DEF.KJ's first run was very impressive. He ran for 34yds and more importantly, made 2 sharp cuts in both directions, planting on both knees. Very small window but very encouraging for those of us that hung on to him in dynasty.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
These unit are better than Detroit's.If only they were a better team with a better OL, WR, QB and DEF.KJ's first run was very impressive. He ran for 34yds and more importantly, made 2 sharp cuts in both directions, planting on both knees.
Very small window but very encouraging for those of us that hung on to him in dynasty.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
Chicago has the worst OLine in the league.These unit are better than Detroit's.If only they were a better team with a better OL, WR, QB and DEF.KJ's first run was very impressive. He ran for 34yds and more importantly, made 2 sharp cuts in both directions, planting on both knees.
Very small window but very encouraging for those of us that hung on to him in dynasty.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
He looked good for 1st action in awhile. I definitely think he needs to trim down a little & hopefully some of the explosiveness comes back with time. He's someone to look at perhaps in the 2nd half of the year.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Really? Kruetz, Garza and Tait and they're the worst line in the league? Does St. Clair really drag them that far down?
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
How does this affect Forte's value - if it does?
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Too early to tell. Forte looked the best 2nite. Jones had the one nice run, but he's got a bit of rust to knock off before being any sort of threat.
TheSoup
Footballguy
Bears homer here.Forte did NOT look good.Our pass blocking was superb, but the run blocking left more to be desired.
Big_Russel
Footballguy
KJ will finish the season with more Fantasy value than Forte. Bank on it.
Onions
Footballguy
Results aside, I think the thing to look at here is that KJ played and showed himself to be healthier than anyone could have imagined (at this point).Who knows what the future holds for him, but the fact he was back on the field has to be looked at as a positive.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Yeah, I thought Forte had one really nice run up the middle --- when he had a WIDE open hole. Otherwise, he looked much like Cedric Benson, falling into the line for 1-2 yards each time.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Preseason stats by themselves don't mean a whole lot. I did not see KJ's run, so I can't comment, but the way he ran and cut is a lot more important than the end result. Considering he tore his ACL only about 9 months ago, it's amazing he is cutting at all. While he has had several injuries, he is also getting a reputation for arguably being the fastest healer in the league.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
KJ has tons of heart but the lower half of his body seems to be very glass like.
IMO he'll play 2nd fiddle to the rookie and was added as a depth move.
IMO he'll play 2nd fiddle to the rookie and was added as a depth move.
Ned
Footballguy
the run that caused me to perk up was where he stuck his foot in the ground, made a cut, then cut back. i immediately thought to myself "the knee must not be too bad if he's making sharp cuts like that". time will tell, but he certainly caught my attention last night...
Brutis
Footballguy
Anyone that thinks he will be a non factor is fooling themselves. If KJ is running this well 2 weeks before the season how well do you think he will be during the FF playoffs come week 14? Im betting he gets more than enough carries late in the year to really put a dent in forte owners come playoff time.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
KJ isn't all the way back but the fact he was on the field is definately encouraging.
I thought Forte looked awful for the most part. Didn't seem to be able to make anything happen on his own. The line isn't doing him any favors but Forte didn't show me much last night.
I thought Forte looked awful for the most part. Didn't seem to be able to make anything happen on his own. The line isn't doing him any favors but Forte didn't show me much last night.
dmac37
Footballguy
The key to this is that he was able to make 2 sharp hard cuts, one on each leg. Is he all the way back? NO, but look for Forte to be the opening day starter and KJ to be worked in and then take over later in the year as odds are Forte will hit the rookie wall. I believe a healthy Jones is more talented than Forte, plus he has the experience.Problem is will the Bear offense generate enough to make them worthy.
MAC_32
Footballguy
As I understand it in order to be activated for last night's game he first had to be removed from the PUP list, once removed from the PUP list you cannot return...if that's the case then he will not be on the PUP to start the season.
Traders2001
Footballguy
KJ will get hurt during his sleep on week 4 and will miss the reminder of the season , you cant count on him even if he looked good.
bcr8f
Footballguy
If that defense doesn't tackle better in the regular season they better.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Yeah sleep not the Detroit offensive line is what did it.Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Did anyone else think KJ looked a bit on the heavy side?
Yes, and slow.
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
That's the point, his first run had a GREAT cut. My 11 year old son even commented what a awesome cut he made to get up field. Not only did KJ show that he can cut, he ran with determination. He bounced off tacklers like the were padded dummies. On one play, the DL got into the back field and basically hit him right after he got the handoff...you did a spin while bouncing off them to basically get back to the line of scrimmage where he got wrapped up by other defenders. That play was impressive not in the stats, but his reaction and his confidence in his knee. Instead of it being 6 loss, he made something out of a played doomed from the word "go."
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
I think you very might have hit the nail on the head here. They looked awful and didn't give any real glimpse that they could be better. If had or counted on a CHI RB this year, I might very be scared. Looks like if the RB can't do something on their own...not much is going happen because little to no support in the trenches.Chicago has the worst OLine in the league.These unit are better than Detroit's.If only they were a better team with a better OL, WR, QB and DEF.KJ's first run was very impressive. He ran for 34yds and more importantly, made 2 sharp cuts in both directions, planting on both knees.
Very small window but very encouraging for those of us that hung on to him in dynasty.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
You could also say he is one of the hardest workers in the league -- this guy busts his butt to get back on the field. Clearly he's got heart.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yes...really.Or did you miss last season when they ranked dead last in ypc and gave up 43 sacks (ranked 24th in the league in that stat).So...maybe not "the worst"...but pretty terrible.
Enraged Nerfball
Footballguy
While I did see 2-3 runs he made for little gain, he looked better than is being portrayed here, IMO. On those runs where he was not met at the line of scrimmage he had good elusiveness and acceleration. One run in the red zone may have been a TD from about 15 yards out but he slipped. He had 11 carries for 44 yds. All in all I thought he looked good.
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bshell27
Footballguy
I would blame that on QB and RB too. IF you got a guy who takes too long to release, or a guy who stutter steps behind the line, the line can't do much about that can they? Don't get me wrong I am a vikes fan, but this statement is far too generalized to be accurate.
I agree with the above. If you watched the game (and the previous 2) you'd see that Forte is a good runner with good vision and the ability to make a guy miss and to break a tackle. There were several plays, also, where he did get 2-3 yards out of nothing. Also, he is consistently in the game on third down, which increases his value especially in PPR. Sure, if all goes well for KJ, Forte could end up on the bench for a few series per game, but in the end, the coaching staff likes him enough to give him plenty of chances. They want him to develop, and barring injury, I highly doubt that at the end of the year they bench him to give significantly more carries to KJ.Re: the offensive line, they are weak. No doubt.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Some yes...but that line was a huge part of that offense sucking last year.They spent a 1st rounder on the Oline, but he ended up hurt.Its just not a good line whatsoever.
thatguythere
Footballguy
That's KJ's signature move.
Floyd The Barber
Footballguy
Agreed. Forte looked a little more slender than I had originally thought, but also thought he looked pretty good. Shifty with some power as well. Given the great performance by Orton, I would be bouyed if I were a Forte owner.And as a KJ owner in a keeper format, I was shocked to see how well he looked on this long run. Great cuts and power.Enraged Nerfball said:
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
KJ is a guy I kind of root for, but fantasy-wise he's not viable to me. It's nice that he looks good and maybe he can carve out a change-of-pace role, but I don't see him doing much on that team with a rookie they like and a backup who knows the system pretty well.
He was a cheap talent, so the Bears gave him a shot. I think he's playing extra-hard because he wants to be on the roster for week 1 so his salary is guaranteed. Hope he makes the team.
He was a cheap talent, so the Bears gave him a shot. I think he's playing extra-hard because he wants to be on the roster for week 1 so his salary is guaranteed. Hope he makes the team.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
So let me get this straight: you think KJ is playing harder than normal simply so that he can make the roster week 1. Period.KJ is the most talented RB on the roster. Once he's healthy - if that happens - he will take carries away from Forte.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
To a certain extent I agree with you guys. I shouldn't have used the word "awful," that's too strong a word. I would say he looked average or pedestrian, though. Nothing special about him whatsoever, at least last night. That's the only action I've seen him in this preseason but my initial thoughts were that this is going to be a long year for Chicago.
ta2d4life
Footballguy
You mean 1-2 inches..........he and the O-Line were horrible!Yeah, I thought Forte had one really nice run up the middle --- when he had a WIDE open hole. Otherwise, he looked much like Cedric Benson, falling into the line for 1-2 yards each time.
