Koenen-K-Atlanta (1 Viewer)

[Boston]

This kid Koenen has a monster leg. He was nailing some bombs against the Pats last weekend. He also hit a 58 yarder against them last year. Does anyone know if he's nailed down the Falcon job? If you play in a league that awards bonus points for long ones his combo of a big league leg and playing in a dome could give you some big weeks.

 

[diesel7982]

While true, this kid has never had to kick for an entire NFL season, or kick a meaningful NFL FG. And we don't know what Mora is going to do with him yet. AND the ATL offense hasnt produced a noteworthy kicker since....2002? (too lazy to look up Feely's big year) Playing in a dome doesnt mean much if anything.

Hes worth watching, but thats it.

 

[Kleck]

:FingersCrossed:

I know this kid. Played basketball with him for a few years. He went to high school and college in my area. Great athlete and person. Hoping he nails down both jobs (PK and P). Would be too cool.

 

[intrinsic]

too risky to have 1 kicker doing ALL of your kicking for the season, doubt he would be pulling double/triple duty if he lands a spot on the team.

 

[Nemesis]

According to my FBG VBD cheatsheet, he is currently sitting ~28th in the kicker rankings.

I assume this is because he hasn't won the job yet?

But, assuming he does win the job, does his ranking amongst the kickers shoot up or stay relatively the same b/c he is unproven yet?

 

[Defending Champs]

They haven't yet name the actual kicker for the team yet though they are currently leaning in the Koenen direction.

 

[Mike Herman]

The kicking plans are not finalized for Green Bay, but the Falcons might give Tony Yelk a chance to punt, according to special teams coach Joe DeCamillis and coach Jim Mora. Michael Koenen, who made the team as the punter last season, made four field goals against New England, including a 50-yarder and a game-winning 40-yarder. Yelk had two kickoffs and one extra-point attempt. The Falcons are wondering if Koenen should handle all of the kicking and punting chores. Yelk was Iowa State's kickoff specialist last season and was their main punter in 2002 and 2003, averaging 41.4 yards per punt.

"We have to decide as a staff, as a organization, if that's the way we want to go," Mora said. "Then we have to have plans in place if he were to get hurt or if he were to start struggling in one area or the other. We'd have to have plans in place if we decided to go that way. We haven't decided that yet. We're still weighing our options. I'll tell you what, it was great to see him go out there and bang them through."

 

[intrinsic]

i was looking for an update on Koenen and found this, thought i would share

"Though an official decision probably won't be announced until late this week or early next week, Michael Koenen has made it difficult not to name him the Falcons' field goal kicker, coach Jim Mora said. "He's really made it hard on us," Mora said. "Going into this camp everyone knows there was a major concern with the kicker and a guy that could put it through the uprights. Michael has shown through three preseason games that we can feel pretty good about that. He still has to go out and do it in a regular-season game where there's a little bit more pressure. Indications are he can handle that." Koenen is 7-for-7 on field goals this exhibition season.

Posted August 28, by Ben Maller"

 

[Mike Herman]

Here's some interesting tidbits on some guys who are not kicking for Atlanta this year, and who would be available in an emergncy if Koenen gets hurt:

Atlanta coaches decided several months ago that they would not re-sign former Georgia kicker Todd Peterson, who went 23-for-25 in his only season with the Falcons last year, and that move created a carousel that led to five players being signed and released and three others still on the roster. Not included on that list is Morten Andersen, who kicked the game-winning field goal that sent Atlanta to the Super Bowl in January 1999. The 45-year-old didn’t impress coaches when he tried out at team headquarters a month ago. Andersen has been out of the league since 2004, when he kicked for Minnesota. Mora even received an e-mail from Kevin Butler, the former Georgia and Chicago Bears standout who last played for Arizona in 1997. ‘‘He was upset,’’ Mora said with a laugh, ‘‘that we worked out Morten and not him.’’

What concerns Mora isn’t so much Koenen’s ability to handle all three jobs; it’s the chance that an injury would prevent him from playing and that would have nobody experienced to replace Koenen. ‘‘I am glad we have another week or two before we have to make the decision about what we want to do at that position,’’ Mora said. ‘‘There are some real pros and cons about going with one. It buys you an extra roster spot, which is valuable, but it also puts you at risk.’’ Special teams coaches Joe DeCamillis and Steve Hoffman are even considering defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux, cornerback Omare Lowe, receiver Michael Jenkins and maybe even cornerback DeAngelo Hall. Mora said he read that Babineaux averaged 40 yards per kick in high school and that Lowe was an all-league prep specialist. Jenkins can punt, and Hall, according to his head coach, ‘‘is the one guy on this team who can do anything.’’

 

[Spartans346]

Right now there is some guy named Rapture (aka BB) that is comparing Koenen's scoring abilities to Tomlinson.

 

[FatRader]

Plays in a dome? Check

Decent offense? Check

Drafted in last round of two leagues? Check

 

[diesel7982]

Plays in a dome? Check

Decent offense? Check

Drafted in last round of two leagues? Check

Can you tell me why this is at all important?

 

[Nemesis]

Plays in a dome? CheckDecent offense? CheckDrafted in last round of two leagues? Check

Add #4: Good schedule during NFL weeks 14-16 (most FF playoffs)?@TB, DAL, CAR...............1 warm climate and 2 dome games

 

[fosio]

:FingersCrossed:I know this kid. Played basketball with him for a few years. He went to high school and college in my area. Great athlete and person. Hoping he nails down both jobs (PK and P). Would be too cool.

Agree, Shick. Watched him kick 60+ yarders at half-time while he was at WWU when the rest of the squad was in the locker room. Those half-time kicks drew more cheers than the game itself!

 

[Kit Fisto]

Plays in a dome? Check

Decent offense? Check

Drafted in last round of two leagues? Check

Can you tell me why this is at all important?

:whoosh: Um... no wind, snow, rain, mud...

 

[Sack-Religious]

:FingersCrossed:I know this kid. Played basketball with him for a few years. He went to high school and college in my area. Great athlete and person. Hoping he nails down both jobs (PK and P). Would be too cool.

Cool. I actually played fantasy football with his dad years ago. It was one of my first forays into FF and it was a public Sandbox league. He's named after his dad and during the couple seasons I played with Koenen Sr. he'd occasionally talk about his son (then in HS) who was a kicker and had a big leg. The league died but when I saw him on the Falcons roster last year I was like, that's that guys son! Small world.ETA: I think he's great value this year. You can get him VERY late or off waivers early in the season and he could be a top 15 kicker.

 

[einstein2u]

last pick of my redraft...why not? i like guys with upside.

 

[diesel7982]

Plays in a dome? Check

Decent offense? Check

Drafted in last round of two leagues? Check

Can you tell me why this is at all important?

:whoosh: Um... no wind, snow, rain, mud...

Is this really how you make decisions? Do you know that these things provide a statistically significant detriment to non-dome kickers? Or are you just guessing? I have a very strong feeling its the latter.

 

[uwgb96]

Plays in a dome? Check

Decent offense? Check

Drafted in last round of two leagues? Check

Can you tell me why this is at all important?

:whoosh: Um... no wind, snow, rain, mud...

Is this really how you make decisions? Do you know that these things provide a statistically significant detriment to non-dome kickers? Or are you just guessing? I have a very strong feeling its the latter.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

Plays in a dome? Check

Decent offense? Check

Drafted in last round of two leagues? Check

Can you tell me why this is at all important?

:whoosh: Um... no wind, snow, rain, mud...

Is this really how you make decisions? Do you know that these things provide a statistically significant detriment to non-dome kickers? Or are you just guessing? I have a very strong feeling its the latter.

Are you serious?? Wind, snow, and rain around fantasy playoffs don't effect kickers??? Give me an indoor kicker every day of the week..... more likely this is probably

 

[Mike Herman]

Average year end kicking fantasy rank, based upon data from 1990 thru 2005:

14.5 - Teams with a home dome

15.4 - Teams that had an outdoor stadium

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Tried to take hin with my last pick, but ESPN doesn't even have him listed. They probably think he is still the punter.

 

[JayMan]

Average year end kicking fantasy rank, based upon data from 1990 thru 2005:14.5 - Teams with a home dome15.4 - Teams that had an outdoor stadium

Interesting stat!Is the 0.9 ranking difference statistically significant?... Or are "Dome kickers" picked earlier meaning that "NonDome kickers" are better value plays? (unless everyone is picked in the last round )Also, since it is a 16 year span - I would guess that we have excluded the "The 8 teams playing in a Dome are in the last 3rd offensively" - thus, every "Dome team" had his moments: Vickings for example (good in some yers - bad in others)... same goes for "NonDome teams": 49ers of the '90s and present...