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Lamar Miller, 2016, Infinity and beyond (1 Viewer)
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Steeler
Footballguy
sportsphysio
Footballguy
I honestly thought you meant "Missing In Action," kind of makes sense in your sentence..
Dizzy
Footballguy
sirfumblesalot
Footballguy
For those thinking about cutting bait, what type of players would you be looking to get back?
I'm in need of RB help and am trying to determine what he'd go for...
I'm in need of RB help and am trying to determine what he'd go for...
Judge Smails
Footballguy
The MN game is a total toss. Nobody should be making a move based on this week. Vikings are that good.
One has to believe the schedule gets better, the line gets healthier, and he can be an RB1 in the 2nd half. If not you trade him for some WR2, which is all you'll get for him right now. I'm holding. Hopefully we'll have enough wins to even get in the playoffs with a first round pick playing like this. He wasn't that far off in the first 4 weeks. Volume was there, 80-90 yards, just no TD's are breakaways. At this point, I just want him to contribute.
One has to believe the schedule gets better, the line gets healthier, and he can be an RB1 in the 2nd half. If not you trade him for some WR2, which is all you'll get for him right now. I'm holding. Hopefully we'll have enough wins to even get in the playoffs with a first round pick playing like this. He wasn't that far off in the first 4 weeks. Volume was there, 80-90 yards, just no TD's are breakaways. At this point, I just want him to contribute.
Markus P Dub
Footballguy
Captain Hook
Footballguy
you still playing in elementary school leagues? WTF would trade Anderson for Miller?
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Not sure if you've noticed but Anderson hasn't been playing so hot lately either. And unlike Miller he's starting to lose touches to his backup.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Fair enough on the numbers but you know they are misleading here. Blue is a replacement level JAG that got a few carries in an extreme case of garbage time (all of his carries were on the last drive late in the 4th quarter down by 25). Booker is an up and coming rookie that is taking carries in both passing situations and in the meat of the game.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
All of Blues carries came in garbage time with the Vikings playing a prevent defense and inviting the Texans to run the ball because they didn't care. About the only successful drive the Texans had in the whole game.
Markus P Dub
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL said:
Captain Hook said:
I'm not jumping up and down on this deal but I wanted to mix it up and I also own Booker. Dynasty league and CJA has a lower salary. I could regret this trade but HOU is playing awful and yes DEN offense is getting stagnant again like last year. Just think there is more upside with CJA moving fwd. Lamar beefed up way too much to carry the load and its affecting his qame. Just my thoughts.
zamboni
Footballguy
Miller obviously isn't playing well, but a lot of the issues are beyond him. This is a guy who averaged 4.5, 5.1. 4.0 and 4.9 YPC his last four years, so it's not like he forgot how to play the position.
Osweiler's struggles aren't doing him any favors and the offensive line is getting manhandled week after week. What I continue to not understand is why Miller is hardly used in the passing game - he's an excellent receiver.
The Texans' schedule is easing up now, so we should have a better glimpse as to whether it was an early struggle for Miller and the whole offense, or if it's truly a lost year all around.
Osweiler's struggles aren't doing him any favors and the offensive line is getting manhandled week after week. What I continue to not understand is why Miller is hardly used in the passing game - he's an excellent receiver.
The Texans' schedule is easing up now, so we should have a better glimpse as to whether it was an early struggle for Miller and the whole offense, or if it's truly a lost year all around.
Wonderllama
Footballguy
You would be lucky to get Jordan Howard IMOsirfumblesalot said:
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
I agree, it doesn't seem right to pin it all on him since he has been so successful in the past with a non-favorable situation. However, I know the Texans o-line has had injuries but in the one game I watched (NE), they seemed to do a decent job for Miller, but he seemed hesitant to hit the hole and went down incredibly easily. I was thinking possibly the big workload is taking a tole on his body.
I know Duane Brown just came back yesterday, so hopefully that'll help open up some clearer holes for Miller to hit. Either way, week 6 is a dream matchup for him. If he can't produce and score a TD against Indy, I will be very concerned going forward.
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
That article was a nice read. Sounds like Miller's struggles are a combo of a lot of things. The o-line is playing like ####, they aren't scheming towards Miller's strengths (getting him in open space) and Miller himself isn't playing too well either.
xrayveggin
Footballguy
I just unloaded Miller and Maclin for ODB. I have Yeldon and RMathews as my other RBs (start 1RB/2WR and 2 flex in 14 team league).
Houston's offense is in shambles. The OL is below average, and Osweiler is frankly terrible - terrible mechanics, terrible accuracy, terrible distance control. It's no wonder that Miller is struggling (even if some fault is his). With Osweiler at QB, I don't see how Miller can have any measure of success that lives up to 1/2 round selection, let alone show any significant marginal value over the likes of Yeldon, Mathews, Gore, or any other somewhat productive RB in a time share on a decent offense.
Houston's offense is in shambles. The OL is below average, and Osweiler is frankly terrible - terrible mechanics, terrible accuracy, terrible distance control. It's no wonder that Miller is struggling (even if some fault is his). With Osweiler at QB, I don't see how Miller can have any measure of success that lives up to 1/2 round selection, let alone show any significant marginal value over the likes of Yeldon, Mathews, Gore, or any other somewhat productive RB in a time share on a decent offense.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
As a Miller owner I'm not optimistic that they even know how to use the guy properly, beyond the sucky OL and suckage of Osweiler. This is a guy that should be getting 6-10 targets out of the backfield like Bell does.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
If this #### doesn't flip the switch today I don't see it happening this season
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
Yep, everything should be in his favor tonight. Great matchup, no Fuller which leads to Vontae being on Hopkins, which should have them relying on Miller more, gameflow should be good. I would be very disappointed if he doesn't put up at least 15 points tonight.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Houstons running philosophy is so, so terrible.
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
Miller looks solid tonight despite the line not being great and Osweiler being his awful self.
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
Finally a TD! Miller looks really good tonight. I know it's Indy's terrible run D, but luckily Miller has a lot of easy matchups the rest of the way.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
That was like Dion Lewis run last year.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I know noone cares, but I was down 2 when he caught that 
Thanks Lamar!
Thanks Lamar!
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
That was one hell of a play by Miller. I am feeling pretty relieved after tonight.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Was nice when they started doing something other than handing it to him right up the middle with no momentum
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Well it was vs. Indy, but if the line can create this guy even a little bit of a hole big plays are there. He dominated the 2nd half. I remember loving his 2nd half schedule, so let's hope this is the start of something good. It was about time. A lot of it will still depend on Osweiler. He has to keep drives alive. But at least the line created a few holes inside and outside.
GregR
Footballguy
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
Yea, next week should be another bad week but after that it is pretty much smooth sailing the rest of the way with the exception of GB.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
This will sound like hindsight but barring season-ending injury I cannot see any situation where that's a regrettable move. Maclin could have gone for 30 and OBJ 6 yesterday and I would still take the OBJ side of the trade every day every format.
He took a hit directly to the shoulder on the sideline after a long run. Could have stepped out, in hindsight should have. He was in and out the rest of the game. Didn't SEEM serious, but sometimes I think that and a guy goes on IR. Since I have Miller on a team, prepare for the worst.
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
Injury didn't look bad, but I wish he had just stepped out of bounds. Honestly, I was fine with them limiting his carries a bit and keeping him fresh for next week since they have a shorter week and a good matchup against the Lions. Blue also had a crucial fumble, so I doubt they'll be using him much going forward.
