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Lane Kiffin Promises Explosive Offense (1 Viewer)

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eefflrat

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Just wondering what everyone else thinks. Explosive and offense don't go together when thinking of the Raiders, but could there be hope for Lamont Jordan (and maybe Moss too).

I think Kiffin is delusional, and he looked a bit camera shy in his presser (from the little I saw on ESPN).

 
eefflrat said:
Just wondering what everyone else thinks. Explosive and offense don't go together when thinking of the Raiders, but could there be hope for Lamont Jordan (and maybe Moss too).I think Kiffin is delusional, and he looked a bit camera shy in his presser (from the little I saw on ESPN).
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At least he didn't do this.... :banned:
 
I'm still waiting for that miracle day when the Raiders finally decide to evaluate their personel on the field instead of just blaming the coach for everything.

As a Broncos fan, I hope that day never comes.

 
hofer said:
I'm still waiting for that miracle day when the Raiders finally decide to evaluate their personel on the field instead of just blaming the coach for everything.As a Broncos fan, I hope that day never comes.
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Art Shell didn't do anything with the personnel he had. Firing him was the right move.
 
So do the Raiders keep Porter as well. Since Porter's problems were with Shell. If the Raiders can find someone who can toss the rock they already have some good players on the offence side of the ball.

 
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So do the Raiders keep Porter as well. Since Porter's problems were with Shell. If the Raiders can find someone who can toss the rock they already have some good players on the offence side of the ball.
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Well if anyone can spot talent it`s Kiffin........i say the Raiders have a great draft this year :rant:
 
"The last person I talked to about the job was Jon Gruden. I asked Jon if he wanted to come on board as the offensive coordinator." Pause. "He said he had to talk to Bruce Allen."

:ph34r:

 
USC - 24

Oakland - 10

And that's with Kiffin calling plays for both teams. The offense is only as explosive as the players make it and right now there is no explosiveness in the attitude of the Raiders...

 
Kiffin promising an explosive offense reminds me of the old mid-day press conferences of "Baghdad Bob" where he would promise that every American plane would be shot down, ship sunk and soldier killed. OK pal, we believe you.

I wish the kid luck. He's got one heck of a job in front of him.

 
Am I the only one that watched that presser and though, "Damn, this kid is so not ready to be an NFL head coach"?

Al Davis is sure looking like a youthful little sprite.

 
When I'm named an NFL head coach, I'm going to promise a boring, predictable offense. No one's ever done that, yet many have delivered it anyway.

 
I don't like to wish failure for people, but if the Raiders tank again this guy could be good for some great press conferences. He talks Like George W. Bush. What's with the long pauses mid-sentence? Was he reading from cue cards?

 
I liked when Al called him "Lance". That was a good moment.

Lane is going to be in for a rude awakening this year, but as a Boltz fan I totaly approve of the hire. Silver and Black are back for another 3-13 season!

 
cobalt_27 said:
Am I the only one that watched that presser and though, "Damn, this kid is so not ready to be an NFL head coach"?Al Davis is sure looking like a youthful little sprite.
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I don't know if he's ready to coach , but he certainly isn't ready to hold press conferences. I didn't get a great feeling of confidence listening to him. He was asked his earliest Raider memory and said "that's a good question" and then gave some BS answer about this moment (being hired) being it blah, blah. At least tell me you remember the Raiders win over the Skins when you were in 1st or 2nd grade.Al's definitely aged alot recently but he's still full of fire. Loved when he jumped some woman who asked Lane about Raiders being a black hole for coaches recently. Al was all over her.Did anyone catch Al talking about defensive scheme? He said we have a scheme, Rob will still have same autonomy he had before and Lane will have input on the scheme and I (Al) also have input on that scheme. It's just not possible for him to leave it all in someone else's hands.
 
raidergil said:
I don't know if he's ready to coach , but he certainly isn't ready to hold press conferences. I didn't get a great feeling of confidence listening to him. He was asked his earliest Raider memory and said "that's a good question" and then gave some BS answer about this moment (being hired) being it blah, blah. At least tell me you remember the Raiders win over the Skins when you were in 1st or 2nd grade.
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So maybe he wasn't a fan growing up, does that matter?
 
Talk is cheap. Let's see what they do with that atrocious line and who is behind center. They've got some good wr's and an average RB but they need to address the line before they will see any improvement. This team has a stellar defense so if they can even be an average offense they could be in for a pretty big turnaround. That being said I don't expect that to happen.

 
raidergil said:
cobalt_27 said:
Am I the only one that watched that presser and though, "Damn, this kid is so not ready to be an NFL head coach"?Al Davis is sure looking like a youthful little sprite.
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Al's definitely aged alot recently but he's still full of fire. Loved when he jumped some woman who asked Lane about Raiders being a black hole for coaches recently. Al was all over her.
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That was Ann Killion of the San Jose Mercury News. I thought she had some balls to ask the question in the first place and while Al fired up on her he didn't necessarily prove her wrong. The Raiders are a black hole for coaches. However, if you do survive the experience it makes the next place you land that much better. See Shanny and Chucky as examples.
 
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Autumn Wind said:
DPRugby said:
The Raiders is a black hole for coaches.
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No more so than a lot of other teams in the league. Granted it's been a revolving door since Gruden left, but it's not like all the other teams are paragons of stability.
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No doubt you're correct, alot of teams have issues with finding coaches, but I wonder if any HC gig in the NFL is as bad as the Raiders due to having to work with Davis. Maybe the Dallas gig because of JJ. The article Raidernation posted in that other thread being a good example why they had to hire a Lane Kiffin type.Being a Charger fan we've had our share of chumps come through as HC too. Alex Spanos wasn't even willing to spend the dough to win like Al is but now that Dean is running the show the Chargers aren't as tight with their pocket books. It's weird, I hate the Raiders but I don't like seeing them this inept. I loved the battles the AFC West had when they were good year in and year out. It made hating them even better when they were winning. Hating them now is very anti-climatic.PS: Thanks for quoting me before I fixed the 'effed up grammar in my post, I sound like a motard there.
 
raidergil said:
cobalt_27 said:
Am I the only one that watched that presser and though, "Damn, this kid is so not ready to be an NFL head coach"?

Al Davis is sure looking like a youthful little sprite.
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I don't know if he's ready to coach , but he certainly isn't ready to hold press conferences. I didn't get a great feeling of confidence listening to him. He was asked his earliest Raider memory and said "that's a good question" and then gave some BS answer about this moment (being hired) being it blah, blah. At least tell me you remember the Raiders win over the Skins when you were in 1st or 2nd grade.Al's definitely aged alot recently but he's still full of fire. Loved when he jumped some woman who asked Lane about Raiders being a black hole for coaches recently. Al was all over her.

Did anyone catch Al talking about defensive scheme? He said we have a scheme, Rob will still have same autonomy he had before and Lane will have input on the scheme and I (Al) also have input on that scheme. It's just not possible for him to leave it all in someone else's hands.
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Bingo. He sounded robotic.
 
This is definitely good news for the Raiders offense. Well, at least until their opponents promise to play good defense, then we're back to square one.

 
eefflrat said:
Just wondering what everyone else thinks. Explosive and offense don't go together when thinking of the Raiders, but could there be hope for Lamont Jordan (and maybe Moss too).I think Kiffin is delusional, and he looked a bit camera shy in his presser (from the little I saw on ESPN).
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Promising an "Explosive Offense" anddelivering an "Explosive Offense" aretwo very different things.I see zero value in this comment. :cry:
 
After head coaches leave the Raiders they tend to do just fine. "Black hole" was a nice touch though.

These coaches do much better than your average head coach who gets canned around the league. They get an opportunity years before they would have in the NFL. If they fail everybody will blame Al Davis and the old school set-up in Oakland, but if they succeed in that environment they must be a great head coach and they cash in elsewhere.

 
I will believe it when I see it, certainly not holding my breath.

I would not touch any Radiers next year unless proven and sitting on the WW

 
I get the feeling the Raiders have no intention of parting ways with either Randy moss or Jerry Porter.

With better QB and offensive line play along with a pretty good (and young) defense, this team could be back in the thick of things within a season.

 
Autumn Wind said:
raidergil said:
I don't know if he's ready to coach , but he certainly isn't ready to hold press conferences. I didn't get a great feeling of confidence listening to him. He was asked his earliest Raider memory and said "that's a good question" and then gave some BS answer about this moment (being hired) being it blah, blah. At least tell me you remember the Raiders win over the Skins when you were in 1st or 2nd grade.
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So maybe he wasn't a fan growing up, does that matter?
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Doesn't matter at all, just thought a coach's son would have better historical grasp of the league. Its more a comment on his comfort with the media and ability to think on the fly. I'm a bit nervous as to how the guy I saw at press conference will handle Moss, Porter, Sapp etc. But, he's young and its his first presser so I have no problem giving him benefit of the doubt. Besides, if he can coach I don't care if he answers every question like Belichick.
 
It would probably make more sense for him to promise a OL that can block and a QB who can throw before promising an explosive offense. Also, I personally think Moss is irrelevant to the conversation. If Oakland has a brain they'll cut him rather than pay him $10-$15 mil to pout and be generally counterproductive to Kiffin's efforts toward righting the ship. This team is at least a year away from being competitive anyway and they should know full well how Moss acts on a non-competitive team.

 
its an obligatory comment (we can't infer too much from it)...

what is he supposed to say... we are going to have a plodding, ponderous offense?

 
After watching a few Raiders games last year, I have a hard time saying the words 'explosive offense' and 'Oakland Raiders' in the same sentence without laughing, especially with the trade rumors of Vick going to Oakland for Moss and Porter.

Unless Kiffin was attempting to be literal instead of metaphorical and plans to incorperate the use of hand grenades into his offensive scheme...

 
Steelnation said:
zamboni said:
Steelnation said:
I would not touch any Radiers next year unless proven and sitting on the WW
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By then, you'd miss out on them. It's all about value, and if you can get some of these Raiders skill players much later than usual, it's worth a shot IMO.
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No thanksMoss = BumJordan = BustPorter = Is he playing or notQB = :lmao: The only Raider I would consider touching is the D
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A lot can happen from now until the beginning of the season. Maybe it's just me, but I never try to vehemently disregard any player/team without considering value. :goodposting:
 
zamboni said:
Steelnation said:
zamboni said:
Steelnation said:
I would not touch any Radiers next year unless proven and sitting on the WW
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By then, you'd miss out on them. It's all about value, and if you can get some of these Raiders skill players much later than usual, it's worth a shot IMO.
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No thanksMoss = BumJordan = BustPorter = Is he playing or notQB = :mellow: The only Raider I would consider touching is the D
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A lot can happen from now until the beginning of the season. Maybe it's just me, but I never try to vehemently disregard any player/team without considering value. :popcorn:
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That's what makes this board great we all have our own opinion.
 
Just heard the audio of this press conference for the first time.

:bag: Dude sounds like the slow kid in class reading his "What I Did this Summer" report.

 
Serious question: Has there been a worse hiring ever? I'm serious. Art Shell actually looks like a reasonable hire when compared to this...this kid, Lame Kiffin. Can't even take him seriously in his first press conference, how in the world is he going to corral a pro football team.

Truly unbelievable. Even for Al Davis, this is as funny as it gets.

 
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Im a USC and Im ecstatic to see Kiffin leave, his offense is about as predictable as it gets, even the DC for UCLA called the USC offense, "Stagnate Predictable and Unimaginative" the guy wasnt qualified to coach a high school team, and he's been OC for two years now just because he's a blood relation to Monte Kiffin PC's mentor. The guy still only has two years of coaching experience and I dont feel that qualifies him to coach a professional football team. If you wanna know what type of coach Kiffin is, he is quite pass happy, think of him like a Martz without the talent.

 
There's no one I despise on the planet more than Al Davis, but I would not underestimate him in picking coaches. Last year he interviewed Sean Payton, Bobby Petrino and Ken Whisenhunt. He gave Gruden and Shanahan their first head coaching jobs, not to mention Madden. Art Shell had a pretty good record his first term as head coach. Of course Davis has a reputation as a jerk and some of the candidates turned down the job offers, but other teams take note of who he's interested in hiring.

 
pettifogger said:
There's no one I despise on the planet more than Al Davis, but I would not underestimate him in picking coaches. Last year he interviewed Sean Payton, Bobby Petrino and Ken Whisenhunt. He gave Gruden and Shanahan their first head coaching jobs, not to mention Madden. Art Shell had a pretty good record his first term as head coach. Of course Davis has a reputation as a jerk and some of the candidates turned down the job offers, but other teams take note of who he's interested in hiring.
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All pretty good points; however, his recent track record hasn't been encouraging.
 
dickey moe said:
pettifogger said:
There's no one I despise on the planet more than Al Davis, but I would not underestimate him in picking coaches. Last year he interviewed Sean Payton, Bobby Petrino and Ken Whisenhunt. He gave Gruden and Shanahan their first head coaching jobs, not to mention Madden. Art Shell had a pretty good record his first term as head coach. Of course Davis has a reputation as a jerk and some of the candidates turned down the job offers, but other teams take note of who he's interested in hiring.
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All pretty good points; however, his recent track record hasn't been encouraging.
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Admittedly there are some Joe Bugels in there too.
 
gocats said:
Im a USC and Im ecstatic to see Kiffin leave, his offense is about as predictable as it gets, even the DC for UCLA called the USC offense, "Stagnate Predictable and Unimaginative" the guy wasnt qualified to coach a high school team, and he's been OC for two years now just because he's a blood relation to Monte Kiffin PC's mentor. The guy still only has two years of coaching experience and I dont feel that qualifies him to coach a professional football team. If you wanna know what type of coach Kiffin is, he is quite pass happy, think of him like a Martz without the talent.
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I was about to ask about that, because I vaguely remembered USC fans wanting this guy's head because the play calling was so bad this year.
 
FOR ALL YOU HATERS

Even Gruden likes this hire.

:hey:

"Now, believe it or not, I'm a big Raider fan again," said Jon Gruden, who recently completed his fifth season as coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers after an acrimonious split from Al Davis' franchise.

"I hope he does a great job," Gruden said. "He's a good friend, and I'm excited for him."

Kiffin has spent time in the offseason around the Buccaneers' coaching staff because his father, Monte, is a longtime defensive coordinator. Gruden said he often exchanges offensive ideas with Lane Kiffin.

"He comes from great stock, great background," Gruden said. "He's been training for this opportunity his whole life. He's been on the fast track for some time."

If there are concerns about Lane Kiffin, 31, being too young and inexperienced to earn the respect of Raiders players, his father and Gruden don't share those worries.

"I don't think it matters how old you are," Monte Kiffin said. "He's going to be very involved in the offense, and he's a really, really good offensive football coach. He's called every play for the last two years (at USC), so he knows what he's doing.

"If you get up on the board and you're putting in a pass route or a blocking scheme or whatever, the players are pretty smart in the NFL and they'll see that and they'll buy into it. If you're not a good teacher, you won't make it. But he's a good teacher."

Said Gruden, "There's no drawback. Whether you're 32 or 62, who cares? You got to go in there and earn the respect of your team and prove you're capable of getting it done."

 
gocats said:
Im a USC and Im ecstatic to see Kiffin leave, his offense is about as predictable as it gets, even the DC for UCLA called the USC offense, "Stagnate Predictable and Unimaginative" the guy wasnt qualified to coach a high school team, and he's been OC for two years now just because he's a blood relation to Monte Kiffin PC's mentor. The guy still only has two years of coaching experience and I dont feel that qualifies him to coach a professional football team. If you wanna know what type of coach Kiffin is, he is quite pass happy, think of him like a Martz without the talent.
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