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I think you're mistaking Terrell Owens with Jerry Rice.not happening...TO would be veryif he had to share the ball with fitz
Dallas is looking to get younger at the WR position. With two first round picks, plenty of cap room, and 13 ProBowlers, a tandem of Romo/Owens/Fitzgerald/Witten/Barber would have to be the best offense in the NFL.I like it, definitely would be interesting.
i thought MB3 was gonna be part of the deal. Certainly the Cards wouldnt trade Fitz for 2 late first rounders.
If the Cards cannot restructure Fitz's contract for '08, I guarantee he could be acquired for much, much less.
I don't know what the going rate for WRs is anymore. Looking through previous years, the only WRs I see dealt are disgruntled (TO, Walker, Moss) or underutilized (Welker) and those didn't garner 1sts. When's the last time an elite WR was traded when he was reasonably happy to stay?
This isn't fantasy football, one first would get it done. The Cardinals are very worried about not being able to restructure Fitzgerald's contract, especially with rumblings from Anquan Boldin and Adrian Wilson that if Fitz's contract is extended they want an extension too. Arizona could avoid this ticking bomb and save cap money by trading Fitz and picking up a draft pick. Randy Moss went for a 4th round pick guys, a 1st would get Fitz, maybe even less. Any team thattrades for Fitz will also inherit a hefty contract which is more costly than giving up a pick. A move like this could get Dallas over the top in the NFC, their time is now.
I dont know, but you think the Cards would trade a top 5 WR for 2 late first rounders?
Considering AB is only in line for 2.5 million next season, I full expect them to reconstruct his contract as well.
I guarantee that the Cards wont trade Fitz for 1 late first round pick.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/...8cardsfree.htmlIn four seasons, Fitzgerald has hit incentives that have pushed his salary to $14.6 million in 2008 and $17.35 million in 2009, the last two years of his rookie contract.
When was the last time a player traded garnered a 1st round pick? Enlighten me.
Deion Branch maybe?
Deion Branch. Can you see the light?
I think it's safe to say those days are over. See Randy Moss.
Moss and Fitz are a horrible comparasion. Moss was seen as a malcontent who's skills were diminshing. He also said he would only redo his contract for a select few teams which scared off quite a few potential suitors. Fitz isn't even in his prime yet and from everything I've heard he has zero character issues. Outside of playing WR these two are two very different situations.
Randy Moss2005: 28 years old, 60 receptions, 1005 yards, 8 TDs (16 games)
I'm absolutely stunned that you went there. Seahawks gave a 1st for branch in 2006Broncos gave a 2nd for Javon Walker in 2006Patriots gave a 2nd and 7th for Wes Welker in 2007The only reason a trade is even possible is the salary and Dallas isn't the only buyer willing and able to pay for the young stud.
As much as I agree with this, my logical side says a team should be able to make it work and Fitz isn't exactly old yet. A team needing a WR would be wise to spend the $ on him and work cheaper players elsewhere, or they may even have cap room. IIRC a lot of teams have the cap space this year.
I agree that would tear the cowboys apart T.O would be crying all over the place .not happening...TO would be veryif he had to share the ball with fitz
The NFL is not fantasy football. Paying someone for what they did on someone else's team is not the best recipe for success.
I think it is safe to say that if you think Moss in Oakland = Fizgerald in Arizona then you are few sandwiches short of a picnic.
And Javon Walker netted a second off missed season with an ACL injury.
Randy Moss went for a 4th round pick.
Repeat it a few more times, it might become relevant. What did he go for when he was nearer Fitz's age and production?The year before Moss was traded, he produced about the same as Travis Taylor and Nate Washington.
It's a better recipe than paying someone that wasn't on anyone's team and hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet.If I were the Cardinals, you know - the team that hasn't made the playoffs with Fitzgerald on the roster, I would jump at the chance to get two firsts for a guy that has put up good-but-not-great numbers and who was also going to cost way too much money.If the Cards could come away with a combination something along the lines of Queintin Groves/Antoine Cason/Jeff Otah in the draft, that's a heck of a lot better for the team than having Fitzgerald and ONE of those guys.
Moss is not a fair comparison. That was a gift from the Raiders. They should have just kept him. I said this last year before moss was traded...Randy Moss is the best WR in the NFL talent wise. It will take at least a late 1st to get Fitz. Fitz is not a malcontent WR. He is in his prime. If the Cards would take a late 1st some team should jump all over it yesterday.
Edited to quote post from April 2007
When did the NFL start giving late first round picks 25 million up front? Jon Beason got $6 million guaranteed at the 25th pick last year with the total package being just over $13 mil total for a 5 year contract. Hell, you don't even get that kinda payday necessarily when you're in the top 10 in the draft. Look at Laron Landry, who's total deal was $31 mil for 6 yrs with 7.5 mil signing bonus and a $7 million roster bonus in 2008. Drafted No. 6 last year.Even a guy who got overpayed on purpose(the Vikings didn't want a holdout) like Adrian Peterson only got $17 million in bonuses(some of them roster bonuses, so they arent up front).The point is, if you have a pick in the later part of the first round, you aren't gonna break the bank signing the guy. At most you're looking at $5 million up front with maybe a roster bonus or two in the future and a total of maybe $15 million for 4 or 5 years. Sure that's a lot of money for someone who isn't proven, but most first round draft picks at least contribute for a few years.If you get a guy like Fitz, you know you're getting an all world talent, but he's scheduled to make $30 million dollars over the next two years. That's a ridiculous amount of money. He isn't gonna budge on that either. If you sign him, he's going to want AT LEAST $20 - $25 million in a signing bonus, plus probably $5 million -$7 million per year or more. That's a lot of bank to put on one player. Yeah, he's got a lot of talent, but if you have to dish out that kind of money, you're not going to give up a high draft pick just to get that opportunity. The Cardinals are likely to get a mid to late first rounder at BEST, and maybe even will settle for a high 2nd rounder.If you don't believe me, look at what Oakland gave up for Randy Moss. They gave the Vikings a No. 7 overall, a linebacker who didn't fit into their system and a 7th round draft pick. I know everyone's going to scream that if Randy was worth a high first rounder then so if Fitz, but it isn't true. When the Raiders acquired Moss, people were still arguing about him possibly being a better receiver than Jerry Rice. That's the kind of talent he was showing at the time. Plus, he had a reasonable contract locked up for the next 3 years before it started spiraling upwards. So, a decent contract already locked up(and having to give ZERO money in a bonus to him) + Randy being a better talent in 2004 than Fitz in 2007 = Randy getting a number 7 overall. With his contract I just can't see anyone giving Arizona anything higher than maybe a 18 or 19 overall for Fitz.
Plus, the Cards absolutely HAVE to lock up Adrian Wilson to a long extension. He's the best safety in the NFC right now and he's more valuable to their team than Fitz. Also, Boldin wants an extension too. So, if the Cards tried to keep all three of them, they'd have a lot of money tied up in 3 players. Not unheard of, but keeping their team the same as it is isn't going to bring a SB title to Arizona. I agree that if they can get Dallas to give up both their first for Fitz, they should send him there on express mail.If I was Arizona I'd even accept one of Dallas' firsts and a second or third and skip away from that deal. The one thing Arizona has going for them is the lack of consistency at the WR position in the NFL. You know if they decide to trade Fitz that Minn, Chicago, Seattle, Dallas, heck half the teams in the league will come calling. So they maybe could get more than a late first, but with his price tag I think Fitz is tough to trade. You're gonna get 75 cents on the dollar at best.
I don't think this is much of a surprise to anyone in the NFL. His issue's were injuries, motivation and the potential to be a team cancer, not his talent. If he were traded to another team that wasn't as successful, who's to say that he wouldn't have been the same wr that we saw in Oak the past 2 years....
Not much of a surprise now.You should have heard what they were saying last year. He lost a step, he isn't explosive...he can't block...He won't go over the middle...blah blah blah
Guilty as charged. I guess he was just loafing in Oakland. Of course, I doubt I'd have gone all out for that turd of an organization either.
Picks + Chester Taylor? I think they have some decent DEs too.
exactly, it turned out to be the absolute best case scenario. He was on a team that was chasing history and making a mockery of other NFL teams. I think it would be fun for anyone to play for the Pats last year. Plug him into a different situation I don't think you get the same results.
Andy, you're a good man. I respect your honest and forthright opinions. It is rare for a person to go all out when they are not happy with their current job situation. Many times in my job I feel the same way. The organization cultivates the attitude.
