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Things change. If you have a great matchup and two other very good RB options, go ahead and bench him. It's not that shocking OR worrying.

This is the NFL, and things happen - for LJ, 8-9 in the box, Damon Huard, and a banged up o-line have all happened. I think it's back on the upswing from here on out with Turley back and Green back in week 8 or 9. Until then, a bad week or two for my 1st round pick won't freak me out.

 
It is what it is said:
Teams have had their rushing success versus San Diego by running to the left, at the Igor Olshansky, Shaun Phillips, Donnie Edwards side. Generally running behind their left guard has been where the teams success has come from. The most success running left against San Diego has been by Baltimore and Pittsburgh, both of whom incidently had/have LG Edwin Mulitalo (now injured) and LG Alan Faneca as quality left guards to run behind. Kansas City has Brian Waters at LG, who has similiar skills at the left guard position.The one game San Diego played without RDE Olshansky in, Tennessee had virtually all of their success running left at Olshansky's replacement RDE Jacques Cesaire. And as previously mentioned here within the posts, the Titans had Kerry Collins, LenDale White and Chris Brown handling the majority (Vince Young later stepped in) of that game.For these reasons above, I actually like Larry Johnson's chances rushing the ball this Sunday against the Chargers. This despite Johnson's abysmal 3.4 YPC this year, along with his 2.0 YPC average over the past two games...
Posts like this are why I come here. Great analysis - hope it pans out as I'm a LJ owner.ThanksWillie
 
you don't bench Larry Johnson
What about if you have guys like Tatum vs. Clev and Deshaun vs. Cinn?It is tough for me to start him over those two options?!
ACF is down the hall and to the left. ;)Seriously though, I wouldn't bench LJ for either of those two. I mean, I'm realistic about LJ; this is 2006 not 2005. LJ is no longer the stud with 200 total yard 3 TD games. Willie Roaf is not walking through that door.But as I said in my earlier post, he still gets more than enough touches and is enough of a RZ threat to merit an every week start.But that's just my NSHFO.
 
Most of you also know that KC plays better @ home....one of the best home records in the NFL over the last 20 seasons. I am not predicting a win, or 200 from LJ, but people are acting as if the Chiefs are toast.

Kinda hard to say about a 2-3 team who has played 3/5 on the road, two of which were in DEN and PITT.

I have seen predictions of SD winning this by 17-24 points. That just isn't goig to happen.

People benching LJ are nuts....thats my simple analysis as a kC homer.

 
you don't bench Larry Johnson
What about if you have guys like Tatum vs. Clev and Deshaun vs. Cinn?It is tough for me to start him over those two options?!
ACF is down the hall and to the left. ;)Seriously though, I wouldn't bench LJ for either of those two. I mean, I'm realistic about LJ; this is 2006 not 2005. LJ is no longer the stud with 200 total yard 3 TD games. Willie Roaf is not walking through that door.But as I said in my earlier post, he still gets more than enough touches and is enough of a RZ threat to merit an every week start.But that's just my NSHFO.
Yeah, I'm not looking for coaching help, but this is a real scenario. Foster vs. a Cincy defense weak against the run. You know Cincy will be keying on SS so Deshaun will go off.Also, Tatum vs. the Clev. rushing D. Then LJ versus the SD D that hasn't given up more than 60 yards in a game and how many rushing TDs?I know KC is at home, but it is still Huard and their weak O-line versus the top rush D in the league thus far.
 
I seriously think he will get shut down. KC stinks.I am inserting K.Jones in his place. FWIW.
I don't understand the anti-LJ sentiment. He is performing good despite the teams OL woes and QB problem.
Missed last weeks game huh?
With the exception of last week LJ has been great.
:confused: LJ's ypc has been steadily declining so far this year.Week 1 vs Cincy = 4.0Week 2 vs Denver = 4.7 (up tick here)Week 4 vs San Fran = 3.4Week 5 vs Arizona = 2.3Week 6 vs Pitt = 1.7His play in the passing game has been the saving grace & even there he was well defensed last weekend. If you think the Chargers didn't watch how the Steelers shut LJ down & don't incorperate some of what they did into their game plan, you're crazy.However, I don't think this is LJ's fault at all. I think it's the combo pack of the declining line play & being without the services of T Green.
ANd????????????Put up LT'S ypc per game and you will find he's only been 4.0 or better 1 thats ONE game this year.
LT's ypc has not been on a percipitous decline like LJ's has. That would be the obvious difference.
Is it the norm for LT to have sub 4.0 yds a carrie game??? Pleaase try and make sense. thanks in advance
 
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you don't bench Larry Johnson
What about if you have guys like Tatum vs. Clev and Deshaun vs. Cinn?It is tough for me to start him over those two options?!
ACF is down the hall and to the left. ;)Seriously though, I wouldn't bench LJ for either of those two. I mean, I'm realistic about LJ; this is 2006 not 2005. LJ is no longer the stud with 200 total yard 3 TD games. Willie Roaf is not walking through that door.But as I said in my earlier post, he still gets more than enough touches and is enough of a RZ threat to merit an every week start.But that's just my NSHFO.
Yeah, I'm not looking for coaching help, but this is a real scenario. Foster vs. a Cincy defense weak against the run. You know Cincy will be keying on SS so Deshaun will go off.Also, Tatum vs. the Clev. rushing D. Then LJ versus the SD D that hasn't given up more than 60 yards in a game and how many rushing TDs?I know KC is at home, but it is still Huard and their weak O-line versus the top rush D in the league thus far.
I'll take Larry this week and you can have Foster :bye:
 
Call me crazy, but I think after last week, KCplays their best game of the year this weekend.

I am not saying LJ will go off or KC will win, but they will be in this game. I think LJ puts up decent numbers, maybe 70-80 total and a TD or two.

I say 24-21, not sure who yet. KC will def play 100x better.

 
I got lucky in my league.. I got Tatum Bell cheap, and in a non-ppr no one wanted Westbrook and I got him cheap.

FBG's has Tatum and Westbrook (if he plays) ranked much higher than LJ.

Thus I'm benching LJ for the 2nd week in a row.

(unless westbrook bombs on me)

In fact, I anticipate only using LJ in maybe 1/2-2/3 of his remaining games unless westy or tatum get injured.

that offense isn't 1/2 of what they were last year, and don't think Green is going to change things right away when he cums back.

 
It is what it is said:
Teams have had their rushing success versus San Diego by running to the left, at the Igor Olshansky, Shaun Phillips, Donnie Edwards side. Generally running behind their left guard has been where the teams success has come from. The most success running left against San Diego has been by Baltimore and Pittsburgh, both of whom incidently had/have LG Edwin Mulitalo (now injured) and LG Alan Faneca as quality left guards to run behind. Kansas City has Brian Waters at LG, who has similiar skills at the left guard position.The one game San Diego played without RDE Olshansky in, Tennessee had virtually all of their success running left at Olshansky's replacement RDE Jacques Cesaire. And as previously mentioned here within the posts, the Titans had Kerry Collins, LenDale White and Chris Brown handling the majority (Vince Young later stepped in) of that game.For these reasons above, I actually like Larry Johnson's chances rushing the ball this Sunday against the Chargers. This despite Johnson's abysmal 3.4 YPC this year, along with his 2.0 YPC average over the past two games...
Nice post. I'll take your word for it because 1. I'm not going to go back and do the research myself and 2. I'm a hopeful LJ owner. Thanks for providing some hope in such a detailed manner. Run left LJ! Run left!
 
you don't bench Larry Johnson
What about if you have guys like Tatum vs. Clev and Deshaun vs. Cinn?It is tough for me to start him over those two options?!
ACF is down the hall and to the left. ;)Seriously though, I wouldn't bench LJ for either of those two. I mean, I'm realistic about LJ; this is 2006 not 2005. LJ is no longer the stud with 200 total yard 3 TD games. Willie Roaf is not walking through that door.But as I said in my earlier post, he still gets more than enough touches and is enough of a RZ threat to merit an every week start.But that's just my NSHFO.
Yeah, I'm not looking for coaching help, but this is a real scenario. Foster vs. a Cincy defense weak against the run. You know Cincy will be keying on SS so Deshaun will go off.Also, Tatum vs. the Clev. rushing D. Then LJ versus the SD D that hasn't given up more than 60 yards in a game and how many rushing TDs?I know KC is at home, but it is still Huard and their weak O-line versus the top rush D in the league thus far.
They might be the Top rushing D, but who have they played? OAK- Jordan sux, Tenn- Brown sux, Balt- Lewis sux, Pitt- FWP good, -SF- Gore good. The only team worth a crap rushing is Pitt. And they played them at HOME. We will see what LJ can do to these guys. I like his chances of a BIG game this week, especially after getting there asses handed to them against Pitts.
 
I seriously think he will get shut down. KC stinks.I am inserting K.Jones in his place. FWIW.
I don't understand the anti-LJ sentiment. He is performing good despite the teams OL woes and QB problem.
Missed last weeks game huh?
With the exception of last week LJ has been great.
:confused: LJ's ypc has been steadily declining so far this year.Week 1 vs Cincy = 4.0Week 2 vs Denver = 4.7 (up tick here)Week 4 vs San Fran = 3.4Week 5 vs Arizona = 2.3Week 6 vs Pitt = 1.7His play in the passing game has been the saving grace & even there he was well defensed last weekend. If you think the Chargers didn't watch how the Steelers shut LJ down & don't incorperate some of what they did into their game plan, you're crazy.However, I don't think this is LJ's fault at all. I think it's the combo pack of the declining line play & being without the services of T Green.
ANd????????????Put up LT'S ypc per game and you will find he's only been 4.0 or better 1 thats ONE game this year.
LT's ypc has not been on a percipitous decline like LJ's has. That would be the obvious difference.
Is it the norm for LT to have sub 4.0 yds a carrie game??? Pleaase try and make sense. thanks in advance
:hijacked: Focus man, focus.We're not here to discuss LT, this is a thread on LJ & what's happening in his world. You want to talk about LT & his 3.7 ypc, go start another thread.Regardless of LJ & KC's struggles, as I said earlier;
To be fair, Frank Gore did hang 55 yards rushing & another 5 receptions for 35 recieving yards on San Diego, just last week. Like tombonneau said, unless you're just swimming in stud RB's, no way you can justify benching LJ.
 
My choices are LJ, Droughns or Norwood. I'm going with LJ of course and expect 75 rushing, 1 td and 5-6 receptions for 55 and a 2nd TD :yes: I need the extra TD because I don't have a TE this week.

 
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I don't understand the anti-LJ sentiment. He is performing good despite the teams OL woes and QB problem.
Missed last weeks game huh?
It was one game sport. And he still scored.
It may have only been 1 game, but no doubt it followed the trend. LJ's ypc has been steadily declining so far this year.Week 1 vs Cincy = 4.0Week 2 vs Denver = 4.7 (up tick here)Week 4 vs San Fran = 3.4Week 5 vs Arizona = 2.3Week 6 vs Pitt = 1.7
 
I don't understand the anti-LJ sentiment. He is performing good despite the teams OL woes and QB problem.
Missed last weeks game huh?
It was one game sport. And he still scored.
It may have only been 1 game, but no doubt it followed the trend. LJ's ypc has been steadily declining so far this year.Week 1 vs Cincy = 4.0Week 2 vs Denver = 4.7 (up tick here)Week 4 vs San Fran = 3.4Week 5 vs Arizona = 2.3Week 6 vs Pitt = 1.7
He get's 70% of the touches so he get's points. That is all that matters in FF. I understand the YPC is ugly. I don't care as long has he catches balls runs for decent yardage and of course he is a TD guy. Hopefully Trent Green get's back for the Fantasy playoffs and LJ will have a head of steam going into late November and December. Meantime he is top 10 in HP-PPR scoring.
 
I benched him for K.Jones. My other sweet move was sitting Alge.

I'm glad I stopped betting on Pro Football many years ago. I stink!

Anyway, the good news for you guys is you can just do the exact opposite of me and you should be pretty well off.

Carry on...

 
I chickened out at the last minute and started LJ even though I had convinced myself it was the smart move to bench him. 32 points vs 6 points for Deshaun Foster. LESSON: don't overthink this stuff.

 
Damn....You guys are depressing..What do you think of sitting the unsitable L.J. in favor of Deshawn Foster ????? I'm flabbergasted I even said it....
I just made that exact change to my roster :hophead: he should have a great day now.
Ahhh ha ha ha ha ha ha.......Yes!!! you're absolutly right....guess I'll have to play him now....
Thank you Icedrinking I played LJ because of your post.....Happy days are here again
 
mclaught said:
I chickened out wisened up at the last minute and started LJ even though I had convinced myself it was the smart move to bench him. 32 points vs 6 points for Deshaun Foster. LESSON: don't overthink this stuff.
fixed. the panic and hate some people on this forum have for LJ is unbelievable.

 
LJ looked really, really good today. The burst was there that was not present in previous games, and he was once again a stud. A win like that can go a long way, LJ could be in for huge numbers because the passing game also opened things up. Nice Job LJ! Nice job Chiefs!

 
LOL at all the guys ragging on LJ since the season started. He either scores TDs, racks up yardage or BOTH..like today. :banned:

132yards, 2TDS vs SD

Of course all of this yardage probably came on 3rd and long against the prevent defense. Right guys?

 
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BYEs forced me to start LJ, Ahman, and Lundy today. There were lots on this board that were mocking the idea of starting any of those 3. I'm glad I didn't overthink and pick up some shmo off the waiver wire instead!

 
Damn....You guys are depressing..What do you think of sitting the unsitable L.J. in favor of Deshawn Foster ????? I'm flabbergasted I even said it....
I just made that exact change to my roster :hophead: he should have a great day now.
Ahhh ha ha ha ha ha ha.......Yes!!! you're absolutly right....guess I'll have to play him now....
Thank you Icedrinking I played LJ because of your post.....Happy days are here again
I actually switched back to LJ @ 11:30 AM yesterday, whew. :hophead:
 
I would NEVER sit LJ....

Hell, I forgot to bench him during his bye week so there ain't no way I'm benching him when he's playing.

 
I would NEVER sit LJ....Hell, I forgot to bench him during his bye week so there ain't no way I'm benching him when he's playing.
:D That's probably a good example of holding on a bit too tight but way to be consistent. I was tempted to rest LJ vs SD this week but was encouraged when I saw that DE Olshansky was out for SD and LJ got another break when LB Phillips went out with a calf injury early on in the game. The other encouraging factors that helped me stick with LJ were KC at home after stinking it up in PIT and embarrassing themselves and something I learned on this board a number of years ago that goes something like this,,, "never bench your studs"This last game is a wake up call for all LJ owners including myself that might have been getting sour on him. KC's RB schedule isn't the best by any means and I was giving consideration to trading LJ for somebody with a better playoff schedule (like Tatum Bell plus a WR) but now that LJ is worth more to other owners in the league as well as myself, I'm going to hold him since his schedule improves in the short term and my trading deadline is still a month off. LJ value is on the upswing and should continue during weeks 8 and 9 and fall a bit during week 10 and go sky high after week 11. Huard has proven to be a good sub for Green but I'd expect Green to throw more which will give KC more balance and more LJ opportunities inside the red zone. Factor in the return of OL Welbourn and LJ should be looking good for the second half of the season. Twice-Suspended OT Welbourn Returning?Elizabeth Merrill, Kansas City Star - [Full Article]After months of inconsistency on their line, help may be on the way. Twice-suspended OT John Welbourn will join the team next week for practice, a source said Tuesday. Welbourn retired unexpectedly last summer, then was suspended for six weeks for violating the league’s drug policy. He also sat for four games at the start of 2005 for steroid use. Welbourn will work out for the Chiefs Oct. 23, and the club will have a two-week commissioner’s exemption to determine his physical status. He was steady at right tackle last year and would be a welcome addition, assuming he’s stayed in football shape.
 

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