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I've been a believer in his talent from the outset but, despite great production, there's been the hesitance to rely on him from the coaching staff. With Bell out of the way for this year and yet another year that PT has proven himself, this could finally be the year he "breaks out". As he's still only 25 years old, he makes a nice buy in dynasty, IMO.
Having early picks is all the more reason to trade for a RB and use those picks on something else. Using a high pick on a RB is always risky business considering the very nature of the position with injuries.
They were actually 15th in pass attempts last year.
And 7th in rushing attempts. I don't think people realize how good the Saints running game was. The problem with PT's overall #'s was the fact that Mike Bell got 170+ carries. With him gone, PT proving himself yet again (esp. in the playoffs) and their lack of interest in some of the vet RB's available, I think this is truly the year that we see PT getting 220-240 carries. If he continues with his production that he's had so far his career (career 5.1 ypc, 16 rushing TDs on 328 carries, 87 career receptions in 3 years with another 6 TDs), then he could easily vault into the top 10 of RBs.
Pierre also was hurt and missed time because of it.
It pretty much does, or else the Saints would just match it anyways although I believe they would be thrilled to get a mid to early 2nd round pick for PT and let him go.Guys, he isn't an elite talent. He was struggling to beat out Mike Bell earlier in the year. He is easily replaced. I'd love to see Gerhart in there to pair up with Bush.
On all accounts. It's a very smart move by the Saints. It is inticiing enough for other teams to take a look, but in the end that other team has to commit a big money deal to acquire his services. The Saints either have the option at getting him back at a good price long term or letting someone else overpay in their view and getting 2nd round pick.2nd round is solid value for an UDFA they got. He's been solid, but hasn't blown the roof off the NFL. I'd take Spiller, Matthews and Dwyer over Pierre personally. if you're looking for a game changer, Best might even be the preferred option. They did the same thing with Lance Moore last year I believe. No one bit, but it puts them in a position of power
Bennie and R Grant are bellcow backs.
Fun watch, that's what that is.
I rather have Pierre and the 1.08.
I don't believe you
Yes. Ceiling in terms of what he'll get or what he's capable of? I think he's capable of any amount of load they'd like to give him. I don't think he tops 240. I also can't see him getting less than 200 this year.
I share your optimism, but he has yet to exceed 150 in three seasons ...
and you are bragging about it?
if they gave up their 2nd round pick by signing him to an offer sheet, then they would lose that pick...I am pretty sure that is what he original poster meant
I'd take the under on that. He's a talented runner, in small doses. He won't be a workhorse in any shape or form. I don't see things changing much from last season with the mix of Thomas, Bush, and Hamilton (instead of Bell).
The thing is, he looks impressive on those 150 carriers. That's the thing that makes guys salivate. And even on that amount of carries, the guy finished top 20 last year. So worst case as a Thomas owner, you're getting RB2 production. Best case, he gets more carries than history dictates, due to injuries or coaching philosophy/game situations, and he turns in a top 10-15 finish.
And there is an exception to every rule....see Rudy Johnson, Ryan Grant, Willie Parker for further evidence...
Addai, Joseph is another guy that fits this profile.
Not sure Willie Parker is a good example of an exception. He had 3 years worth mentioning; he burned quite a few people. And Rudi only had 3 1k seasons as well -- he was done by 28.
3 years of production is good for a running back. I got Willie Parker off waviers and stashed him so I can't complain about his production. People invested a lot more for McGahee and Larry Johnson type backs and barely got 3 years. I doubt anyone in my dynasty league would give me PT for a 2nd round pick because the chances of getting a productive RB there is too remote.
Haha... nice try
No, just giving my opinion of PT by what I traded him for. Got a problem with that?
Pierre broke RED GRANGE'S return records at Illinois.That might be my favorite Saints stat.
Yeah, totally average back right there. No vision, cutting ability, burst, turning things north/south in a hurry or tackle breaking ability evident. Can't see why anybody would want to see him get more carries after watching that. Unless maybe they checked the production from the 6 game stint he was the "bellcow" back in '08. Then they might want to reconsider.16 for 88, 1 TD-4 for 56
at him thinking he's gonna get anything close to what sj got.Earth to pt, no NFL team even tried to get you for the 2nd round tender placed on you.
Yeah, that is Reggie Bush type money. He can't be worth that much.at him thinking he's gonna get anything close to what sj got.Earth to pt, no NFL team even tried to get you for the 2nd round tender placed on you.
