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Late breaking credible draft rumors (1 Viewer)

If its being reported the Eagles are going to do something, you can bet 100% its not going to happen.
Hearing from credible sources the Eagles are trying hard to move up. Others say their sources indicate they want to trade back to get more picks or they'll possibly stay put at 22.

Highly likely one of those will happen.
I heard they will let the time expire so they can draft at 23 instead of 22.

 
If its being reported the Eagles are going to do something, you can bet 100% its not going to happen.
Hearing from credible sources the Eagles are trying hard to move up. Others say their sources indicate they want to trade back to get more picks or they'll possibly stay put at 22.

Highly likely one of those will happen.
I heard they will let the time expire so they can draft at 23 instead of 22.
SKOL

 
@AdamSchefter

Houston is now locked in on its player and is not expecting a trade, per sources. Texans happy to sit at 1 and take player it wants.
What happened to signing the player before the draft, like Jake Long?

Or is that just not needed now?
We'll see how settled they are when they are on the clock. If they take 2 minutes, well yeah then they really were settled. My bet is they take closer to 9 minutes.-QG
I agree. This could be a last ditch effort to "Show me your best offer" to the other teams.

Only a few more hours until I have to stop with the conspiracy theories. :cry:
No worries then the 2015 speculation can begin! :tinfoilhat: :excited:

-QG

 
I'm not going to be surprised at all when he gets picked before Evans.
I won't be surprised if Evans goes before Watkins.
DHB part deux.

ETA: I'm not saying Evans is in any way like DHB, I'm saying it would be like passing up on Crabtree to draft DHB.
The most disliked thing on this board is when people try to use current or past NFL players to try to make a point about an incoming player. If you think a guy will fail, then find a crappy NFL player. If you think a guy is super awesome, then compare him to Megatron, Brandon Marshall or Demaryius Thomas. There is no correlation at all in the above comparison, just like there is no correlation between Blackmon and these guys.

DHB had stone hands. Mike Evans does not and his body is completely different. All you did there was compare a 1st round bust to Mike Evans. I think you can do better than that.
I said it's clear they're nothing alike. My post had nothing to do with the players themselves, it was more referring to the teams drafting them.

I'm just saying passing up an all around elite prospect like Sammy Watkins for a guy with elite size like Evans, is like passing up an all around elite prospect like Crabtree for a guy with elite speed like DHB.

In other words, they're passing up on a complete WR with all around elite/great skills for a guy who's got 1 elite characteristic.
I'm not so sure the difference is anywhere near as big as you make it. Sammy is more dangerous in the open field, but Evans has a ton of tools and is a major mismatch for every NFL corner.
Size and a short temper?
Umm we are in draft season. Size is called "Length" and anger is called "competitiveness."
And a guy who runs all over the place but doesn't really accomplish anything has a "great motor".

 
There's some rumblings of Mallett to the Texans on twitter at the moment.

ETA: Via https://twitter.com/tomecurran
This guy covers the Pats and these two tweets are within the last fifteen minutes.

This one might have legs folks. :popcorn:

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Tom E. Curran‏@tomecurran15 mins

A source tells me Ryan Mallett to the Texans may soon be done.

Tom E. Curran‏@tomecurran12 mins

Not a done deal at all but the machinations have begun. #mallett #texans

 
Report: Marqise Lee won't slip past Packers

Perfect example of why 98% of this pre-draft chatter is complete garbage. There is absolutely no way the Packers use pick 21 on Marqise Lee. Not only is he grossly overrated, but Ted has never (and likely will never) use a first round pick on a WR. Especially not in a deep WR class like this one. And the fact that you can plug in any dime-a-dozen WR with Rodgers and the offense will still be top 5.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/46661/311/nfl-draft-the-phenom-index?pg=2

 
Peter King tweeting confidently the Niners will move-up in the first round tonight.

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The MMQB‏@theMMQB3 hrs

"I think I will be very surprised if the Niners don’t make a big move...by the middle of the first round tonight": http://wp.me/p3Dw81-5Ef

 
Report: Marqise Lee won't slip past Packers

Perfect example of why 98% of this pre-draft chatter is complete garbage. There is absolutely no way the Packers use pick 21 on Marqise Lee. Not only is he grossly overrated, but Ted has never (and likely will never) use a first round pick on a WR. Especially not in a deep WR class like this one. And the fact that you can plug in any dime-a-dozen WR with Rodgers and the offense will still be top 5.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/46661/311/nfl-draft-the-phenom-index?pg=2
Not saying it isn't false, but you are making a lot of assumptions there.

 
There's some rumblings of Mallett to the Texans on twitter at the moment.

ETA: Via https://twitter.com/tomecurran
This guy covers the Pats and these two tweets are within the last fifteen minutes.

This one might have legs folks. :popcorn:

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Tom E. Curran‏@tomecurran15 mins

A source tells me Ryan Mallett to the Texans may soon be done.

Tom E. Curran‏@tomecurran12 mins

Not a done deal at all but the machinations have begun. #mallett #texans
O'Brien was offensive coordinator in New England during Mallett's rookie year. This would make sense since he would know what he was getting.

 
BleacherReport.com has the Falcons giving up next years #1 and trading Ones with the Rams to take Robinson....
Giving up a #1 when Matthews could be there when the Falcons pick? Is there that much of a difference to risk this type of trade?
Yeah that's just stupid
Maybe they're hearing Matthews will be gone as well? Still though, I'd rather take Lewan and keep next year's pick. I don't think theres much difference between him and Matthews anyway.

 
There's some rumblings of Mallett to the Texans on twitter at the moment.

ETA: Via https://twitter.com/tomecurran
This guy covers the Pats and these two tweets are within the last fifteen minutes.

This one might have legs folks. :popcorn:

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Tom E. Curran‏@tomecurran15 mins

A source tells me Ryan Mallett to the Texans may soon be done.

Tom E. Curran‏@tomecurran12 mins

Not a done deal at all but the machinations have begun. #mallett #texans
O'Brien was offensive coordinator in New England during Mallett's rookie year. This would make sense since he would know what he was getting.
it makes a lot of sense. if the price isn't high.

Mallett is probably better than any QB in the draft this year.

 
There are just so many trade-up rumours swirling around the Falcons this year that I've almost got to believe they're sending out a lot of feelers. Somebody in management feels insecure in his job, methinks.

If there's anything to that Ram rumor and they don't pounce, they're nuts. If I'm picking #2 and I'm dead set on a tackle, I'm content if they spin a wheel and give me any one of the top three at random. If somebody will give up next year's first and I still get one of those guys, I laugh my way to the podium.

 
BleacherReport.com has the Falcons giving up next years #1 and trading Ones with the Rams to take Robinson....
Giving up a #1 when Matthews could be there when the Falcons pick? Is there that much of a difference to risk this type of trade?
Yeah that's just stupid
Maybe they're hearing Matthews will be gone as well? Still though, I'd rather take Lewan and keep next year's pick. I don't think theres much difference between him and Matthews anyway.
Seems like somethings-a-cookin with the Falcons. :stirspot:

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NFL: AroundTheLeague‏@NFL_ATL4 mins

Has made a trade in every draft with Falcons RT @RichOnSports: Dimitroff told me he's having active discussions with teams. Trade is in play

 
There's some rumblings of Mallett to the Texans on twitter at the moment.

ETA: Via https://twitter.com/tomecurran
This guy covers the Pats and these two tweets are within the last fifteen minutes.

This one might have legs folks. :popcorn:

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Tom E. Curran‏@tomecurran15 mins

A source tells me Ryan Mallett to the Texans may soon be done.

Tom E. Curran‏@tomecurran12 mins

Not a done deal at all but the machinations have begun. #mallett #texans
O'Brien was offensive coordinator in New England during Mallett's rookie year. This would make sense since he would know what he was getting.
it makes a lot of sense. if the price isn't high.

Mallett is probably better than any QB in the draft this year.
Could set in motion a musical chair-QB scenario.

Now the speculation is that if the Pats deal Mallett they'd then turn around and make a play for Glennon. :stalker:

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NFL: AroundTheLeague‏@NFL_ATL1 min

We wrote about Mallett-Texans match in March http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000332050/article/report-texans-interested-in-patriots-ryan-mallett … Glennon to Patriots could be next domino to fall http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000347373/article/nfl-draft-trades-wed-love-to-see …

 
Kiljoy Rapoport throws his wet blanket on the Mallet rumor. :sadbanana:

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Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet4 mins

There is no deal between the Patriots and the Texans for Ryan Mallett

EDIT:

The above tweet chopped off the last critical sentence that leaves some room for a deal may still take place down the road.

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Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet7 mins

There is no deal between the Patriots and the Texans for Ryan Mallett. But the interest from Houston and Bill O’Brien is real. #Staytuned

 
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Niners can be offseason winners again this year just as long as they choke when it counts again. #Go PACK Go
By "choke when it counts again" you mean NOT in the playoffs against the Packers in back to back years, right?
No I meant the part about the Niners not winning squat since Bill Clinton was in office.

The Niners are the best second best team in their division.

 
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I'm not going to be surprised at all when he gets picked before Evans.
I won't be surprised if Evans goes before Watkins.
DHB part deux.

ETA: I'm not saying Evans is in any way like DHB, I'm saying it would be like passing up on Crabtree to draft DHB.
The most disliked thing on this board is when people try to use current or past NFL players to try to make a point about an incoming player. If you think a guy will fail, then find a crappy NFL player. If you think a guy is super awesome, then compare him to Megatron, Brandon Marshall or Demaryius Thomas. There is no correlation at all in the above comparison, just like there is no correlation between Blackmon and these guys.

DHB had stone hands. Mike Evans does not and his body is completely different. All you did there was compare a 1st round bust to Mike Evans. I think you can do better than that.
I said it's clear they're nothing alike. My post had nothing to do with the players themselves, it was more referring to the teams drafting them.

I'm just saying passing up an all around elite prospect like Sammy Watkins for a guy with elite size like Evans, is like passing up an all around elite prospect like Crabtree for a guy with elite speed like DHB.

In other words, they're passing up on a complete WR with all around elite/great skills for a guy who's got 1 elite characteristic.
I'm not so sure the difference is anywhere near as big as you make it. Sammy is more dangerous in the open field, but Evans has a ton of tools and is a major mismatch for every NFL corner.
Size and a short temper?
Size, speed, hands, strength, body control.
Evens is 4 inches taller than Watkins with arms that are 4 inches longer and he also has 3 more inches on his vertical leap. His catch radius is much larger than Watkins. He is also raw and has much more room to improve.

 
Niners can be offseason winners again this year just as long as they choke when it counts again. #Go PACK Go
By "choke when it counts again" you mean NOT in the playoffs against the Packers in back to back years, right?
No I meant the part about the Niners not winning squat since Bill Clinton was in office. The Niners are the best second best team in their division.
Seriously guys? Now? In this thread?

 
I'm not going to be surprised at all when he gets picked before Evans.
I won't be surprised if Evans goes before Watkins.
DHB part deux.

ETA: I'm not saying Evans is in any way like DHB, I'm saying it would be like passing up on Crabtree to draft DHB.
The most disliked thing on this board is when people try to use current or past NFL players to try to make a point about an incoming player. If you think a guy will fail, then find a crappy NFL player. If you think a guy is super awesome, then compare him to Megatron, Brandon Marshall or Demaryius Thomas. There is no correlation at all in the above comparison, just like there is no correlation between Blackmon and these guys.

DHB had stone hands. Mike Evans does not and his body is completely different. All you did there was compare a 1st round bust to Mike Evans. I think you can do better than that.
I said it's clear they're nothing alike. My post had nothing to do with the players themselves, it was more referring to the teams drafting them.

I'm just saying passing up an all around elite prospect like Sammy Watkins for a guy with elite size like Evans, is like passing up an all around elite prospect like Crabtree for a guy with elite speed like DHB.

In other words, they're passing up on a complete WR with all around elite/great skills for a guy who's got 1 elite characteristic.
I'm not so sure the difference is anywhere near as big as you make it. Sammy is more dangerous in the open field, but Evans has a ton of tools and is a major mismatch for every NFL corner.
Size and a short temper?
Size, speed, hands, strength, body control.
Evens is 4 inches taller than Watkins with arms that are 4 inches longer and he also has 3 more inches on his vertical leap. His catch radius is much larger than Watkins. He is also raw and has much more room to improve.
Right, I might be in the minority, but I like Evans more than Sammy.

 
I'm not going to be surprised at all when he gets picked before Evans.
I won't be surprised if Evans goes before Watkins.
DHB part deux.

ETA: I'm not saying Evans is in any way like DHB, I'm saying it would be like passing up on Crabtree to draft DHB.
The most disliked thing on this board is when people try to use current or past NFL players to try to make a point about an incoming player. If you think a guy will fail, then find a crappy NFL player. If you think a guy is super awesome, then compare him to Megatron, Brandon Marshall or Demaryius Thomas. There is no correlation at all in the above comparison, just like there is no correlation between Blackmon and these guys.

DHB had stone hands. Mike Evans does not and his body is completely different. All you did there was compare a 1st round bust to Mike Evans. I think you can do better than that.
I said it's clear they're nothing alike. My post had nothing to do with the players themselves, it was more referring to the teams drafting them.

I'm just saying passing up an all around elite prospect like Sammy Watkins for a guy with elite size like Evans, is like passing up an all around elite prospect like Crabtree for a guy with elite speed like DHB.

In other words, they're passing up on a complete WR with all around elite/great skills for a guy who's got 1 elite characteristic.
I'm not so sure the difference is anywhere near as big as you make it. Sammy is more dangerous in the open field, but Evans has a ton of tools and is a major mismatch for every NFL corner.
Size and a short temper?
Size, speed, hands, strength, body control.
Evens is 4 inches taller than Watkins with arms that are 4 inches longer and he also has 3 more inches on his vertical leap. His catch radius is much larger than Watkins. He is also raw and has much more room to improve.
Right, I might be in the minority, but I like Evans more than Sammy.
Maybe, but I actually have Evans third behind Beckham.

 
I'm not going to be surprised at all when he gets picked before Evans.
I won't be surprised if Evans goes before Watkins.
DHB part deux.

ETA: I'm not saying Evans is in any way like DHB, I'm saying it would be like passing up on Crabtree to draft DHB.
The most disliked thing on this board is when people try to use current or past NFL players to try to make a point about an incoming player. If you think a guy will fail, then find a crappy NFL player. If you think a guy is super awesome, then compare him to Megatron, Brandon Marshall or Demaryius Thomas. There is no correlation at all in the above comparison, just like there is no correlation between Blackmon and these guys.

DHB had stone hands. Mike Evans does not and his body is completely different. All you did there was compare a 1st round bust to Mike Evans. I think you can do better than that.
I said it's clear they're nothing alike. My post had nothing to do with the players themselves, it was more referring to the teams drafting them.

I'm just saying passing up an all around elite prospect like Sammy Watkins for a guy with elite size like Evans, is like passing up an all around elite prospect like Crabtree for a guy with elite speed like DHB.

In other words, they're passing up on a complete WR with all around elite/great skills for a guy who's got 1 elite characteristic.
I'm not so sure the difference is anywhere near as big as you make it. Sammy is more dangerous in the open field, but Evans has a ton of tools and is a major mismatch for every NFL corner.
Size and a short temper?
Size, speed, hands, strength, body control.
Evens is 4 inches taller than Watkins with arms that are 4 inches longer and he also has 3 more inches on his vertical leap. His catch radius is much larger than Watkins. He is also raw and has much more room to improve.
Right, I might be in the minority, but I like Evans more than Sammy.
Maybe, but I actually have Evans third behind Beckham.
 
I'm not going to be surprised at all when he gets picked before Evans.
I won't be surprised if Evans goes before Watkins.
DHB part deux.

ETA: I'm not saying Evans is in any way like DHB, I'm saying it would be like passing up on Crabtree to draft DHB.
The most disliked thing on this board is when people try to use current or past NFL players to try to make a point about an incoming player. If you think a guy will fail, then find a crappy NFL player. If you think a guy is super awesome, then compare him to Megatron, Brandon Marshall or Demaryius Thomas. There is no correlation at all in the above comparison, just like there is no correlation between Blackmon and these guys.

DHB had stone hands. Mike Evans does not and his body is completely different. All you did there was compare a 1st round bust to Mike Evans. I think you can do better than that.
I said it's clear they're nothing alike. My post had nothing to do with the players themselves, it was more referring to the teams drafting them.

I'm just saying passing up an all around elite prospect like Sammy Watkins for a guy with elite size like Evans, is like passing up an all around elite prospect like Crabtree for a guy with elite speed like DHB.

In other words, they're passing up on a complete WR with all around elite/great skills for a guy who's got 1 elite characteristic.
I'm not so sure the difference is anywhere near as big as you make it. Sammy is more dangerous in the open field, but Evans has a ton of tools and is a major mismatch for every NFL corner.
Size and a short temper?
Size, speed, hands, strength, body control.
Evens is 4 inches taller than Watkins with arms that are 4 inches longer and he also has 3 more inches on his vertical leap. His catch radius is much larger than Watkins. He is also raw and has much more room to improve.
Right, I might be in the minority, but I like Evans more than Sammy.
Maybe, but I actually have Evans third behind Beckham.
I don't know as much about Beckham. What do you like?

 
lets stop talking about those two. we're beating a dead horse in the wrong thread.

 
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BleacherReport.com has the Falcons giving up next years #1 and trading Ones with the Rams to take Robinson....
Giving up a #1 when Matthews could be there when the Falcons pick? Is there that much of a difference to risk this type of trade?
I agree that it'd be a mistake. Lewan could also be there when they pick, I suppose. But they do seem very concerned about being more physical and Robinson would be an ideal response to that problem.

 
Interesting thought on the late first round picks on the NFL Network a minute ago and the QB picks - you might see teams with QB needs passing early and then looking to move into the 20+ to get a QB because they get an extra 5th year contract.

 
@OptimumScouting: Is Brandon Flowers worth a 2nd round pick? #Lions have interested I've been told, unsure if it's been reported yet.

 
Thomas Dimet...whatever his last name is. has spoken about possibly trading up to the #1 pick.

Not happen'.

He's down-shifted his sights to the #4 pick.

Their has been lots of mumuring about this possibility in Cleveland for awhile.

Likely target with the #4 pick?

Kalil Mack.

Here's a series of tweets covering different aspects of this one:

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Jay Adams@FalconsJAdams · 47m

From @RichOnSports, it's "highly unlikely" that Falcons will trade up to 1. That message from TD himself. #FalconsDraft #RiseUp

Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet2 hrs

We’ve talked about #Falcons possibly trading for No. 1. Appears more likely they trade for No. 4 with #Browns if Khalil Mack is available

Dane Brugler‏@dpbrugler31 mins

Good chance the #Browns don't pick at 4 or 26...many around the league expect CLE to move around and be selectively aggressive

 
In a trade for top pick, the Texans are hoping to get a first-round swap and picks in the second and third rounds in this year's draft and a first-round pick in 2015, John McClain of the Houston Chronicle reports.

Previous reports had the Texans asking for three first-round picks and a second-rounder. <--- :lmao: what a ridiculous asking price.

Sounds like a team that wishes it wasn't picking 1st.
Uh, that's what the Redskins paid to move up to #2 from #6.
Have the Redskins ever made a good deal?

 
In a trade for top pick, the Texans are hoping to get a first-round swap and picks in the second and third rounds in this year's draft and a first-round pick in 2015, John McClain of the Houston Chronicle reports.

Previous reports had the Texans asking for three first-round picks and a second-rounder. <--- :lmao: what a ridiculous asking price.

Sounds like a team that wishes it wasn't picking 1st.
Uh, that's what the Redskins paid to move up to #2 from #6.
Have the Redskins ever made a good deal?
Redskins received:

1.12, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th in 1999 draft. 1.2 and 3.2 picks in 2000 draft

Saints received: 1.5 in 1999 draft

 
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In a trade for top pick, the Texans are hoping to get a first-round swap and picks in the second and third rounds in this year's draft and a first-round pick in 2015, John McClain of the Houston Chronicle reports.

Previous reports had the Texans asking for three first-round picks and a second-rounder. <--- :lmao: what a ridiculous asking price.

Sounds like a team that wishes it wasn't picking 1st.
Uh, that's what the Redskins paid to move up to #2 from #6.
Have the Redskins ever made a good deal?
Redskins received:1.12, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th in 1999 draft. 1.2 and 3.2 picks in 2000 draft

Saints received: 1.5 in 1999 draft
They were on the other side of the Ditka F up for smokey? Well played but talk about the blind squirrel haha.

 

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