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12 team league. This guy just had 110 yards and a TD on 8 targets.. is he worth an add?
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Winky the tunnel ferret
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If you're in a small league and he wasn't drafted then sure.
Most shawrks drafted this guy as the wr situation outside Gates was unlcear.
Most shawrks drafted this guy as the wr situation outside Gates was unlcear.
FallenHero32
Footballguy
just dropped Lee Evans to pick him up. F lee evans!
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Probably, but that 59 yard TD was just terrible defense leaving Naanee wide open. Consider 59 yards and the TD a gift in that stat line.
footballnerd
Footballguy
The man was so wide open on that TD I thought it was a punt.
Avery
Footballguy
There was some crappy tackling on Charles 56 yard TD.Otherwise he has 10 rushes for 36 yards.I wouldn't pick him up either...
mystykoekaki
Footballguy
this made me lol
No. There was no tackling on the play. Naanee was uncontested 50 yards down field. No one was covering him; AT ALL. Charles' run can easily be replicated as seen from last season.There's a difference between Charles weaving his way through multiple defenders and Naanee catching the ball with no defenders within 30+ yards of him... and no Naanee did nothing special to gain separation. Thank Antonio Gates.There was some crappy tackling on Charles 56 yard TD.Otherwise he has 10 rushes for 36 yards.
I wouldn't pick him up either...
Nice try at mocking me though.
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Winky the tunnel ferret
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30+ yards? He started slowing to a job and quickly picked up the pace once he realized there was a defender not far behind.
It was a clear result of blown coverage by a crappy defense but he's still worth a pickup. Just temper your expectations.
It was a clear result of blown coverage by a crappy defense but he's still worth a pickup. Just temper your expectations.
Avery
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Don't take it personally. Just making a point about taking away the big play in the stat line.Anyway, I know how wide open he was on that play, but Gates will be there every week to take attention away and help Naanee get open. Maybe not that open, but he seems to be a good play.Eminence said:No. There was no tackling on the play. Naanee was uncontested 50 yards down field. No one was covering him; AT ALL. Charles' run can easily be replicated as seen from last season.There's a difference between Charles weaving his way through multiple defenders and Naanee catching the ball with no defenders within 30+ yards of him... and no Naanee did nothing special to gain separation. Thank Antonio Gates.Avery said:There was some crappy tackling on Charles 56 yard TD.Otherwise he has 10 rushes for 36 yards.Eminence said:
I wouldn't pick him up either...
Nice try at mocking me though.
BAY_AREA_GIANT
Footballguy
lol, I have never understood the take one play away argumentI highly doubt pouring rain is repeatable for most future San Diego games. It appeared that Rivers was having a very difficult time throwing the ball early in the game.Sure, take away his flukey TD, but how many yards are you willing to add if Rivers had decent weather to throw in?Eminence said:
The Jacket
Footballguy
Crappy tackling? Chargers DBs didn't even sniff Charles because he was too busy juking them out of their cleats.Avery said:There was some crappy tackling on Charles 56 yard TD.Otherwise he has 10 rushes for 36 yards.I wouldn't pick him up either...Eminence said:
aimlessgun
Footballguy
Well Gates still got his despite triple coverage, but will this impact his value in the future once teams see that it worked for KC? Or does Rivers demolish that gameplan on a sunny day?
The Jacket
Footballguy
He got his before double (only the very occassional triple) coverage. Didn't do much after that. Freed up the WRs a bit but the Chiefs didn't want to let Gates keep moving the chains. Rivers might get the ball to other guys on a sunny day, but Gates was blanketed. If other teams follow, he'll be in for a long year. I doubt they will, though, because it's too risky to leave your CBs and even LBs singled up on those WRs, who'll be better for the rest of the year.
I'm not using it to discredit Naanee; but only to enlighten people on how Naanee will produce in the future. That play will likely not happen to Naanee again this season, hell an anomaly on the defense could occur again but then again who says it couldn't be Buster Davis or Malcolm Floyd trotting down the field untouched?My point was I don't want people using the 110 Yards as an affirmative assessment for future Naanee starts.
You want my opinion on Naanee? I see San Diego now as a team with no clear #1 Receiver; not a single one of them is going to produce week after week. Teams will likely place their #1 Corner on whoever is producing at the time and the other receivers will benefit from it. At that Rivers is extremely good at distributing the ball. Phillip Rivers is an elite talent in the league, he will put up many 300 yard receiving games, and he will have an option that "stands out".
However pin-pointing who that will be week-in and week-out will be a challenge.
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switz
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With the way Rivers locked onto Naanee at times, I'm pretty sure that TD is a sign of things to come. Some of us have been touting Naanee for a couple years, the kid is a star in the making IMO.Rivers definitely favors Naanee over Floyd and Davis...
Floyd got 12 targets ... by far the most on the team ... I wouldn't go so far as to say Naanee is "favored"
switz
Footballguy
If you watched the game - maybe you did, I'm not trying to be a jerk - Floyd's targets came mostly when Naanee wasn't on the field. Rivers has been very outspoken about how much he likes Naanee. We'll see over the course of the season how things develop.
I watched the game as well.
Didn't see this so called "locking on" that you're talking about; but hey let's look at the stats:8 Targets for Naanee12 Targets for Floyd
4 Targets for Davis
6 Targets for Gates
Looks inconclusive to him "favoring" anyone. I'd also like to note that when the game was on the line (goal line); Rivers went to Floyd and Davis.
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underdogger
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hmmm, floyd 4 redzone targets to legedu's 2. floyd has 12 targets and only converts 3 for catches. that is pure trash. keep that up and buster davis will pass you on the depth chart. legedu has 8 targets and converts 5 for catches. im not exactly sure what this unconditional man love for floyd is coming from. even the stats paint a different picture
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
See? He obviously has one of the most sought-after skills in the NFL: stealth - the ability to run pass defenders without even being seen.Obviously a WR1 the rest of the way.Eminence said:
Well my question is, "Why wasn't he on the field?" He's listed #2 Receiver on the depth chart. Believe me I am a believer in Naanee's talent and have him stashed away in a few leagues. But I just don't see his production fluctuating this season from:15-60 Yards for a Miscellaneous TD or so.
Reaper
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Can we take away Mendenhal's run while we're at it...I think the important factors are TALENT and OPPORTUNITY.....Rivers is a pretty good QB. So, this guy is what the 2nd or 3rd target? Not bad.Avery said:There was some crappy tackling on Charles 56 yard TD.Otherwise he has 10 rushes for 36 yards.I wouldn't pick him up either...Eminence said:
Jed
Footballguy
Did you watch the game? Rivers passes to Floyd in the RZ were horrible! Floyd caught everything he had a real shot at last night.
underdogger
Footballguy
Did you watch the game? ...if so you would know that:1.) One of those targets was caused by Buster Davis slipping on his route and the ball just happening to be near Floyd. (Almost picked off.)2.) The conditions played a HUGE role. People were taking bad footing, Rivers was making shotty passes, no rhythm, chronically passing on 3rd and 10, it was just bad.Now everyone had to plays in the same conditions.
But I'm willing to pardon most of the Chargers Receivers for any drops / miscues this week. Seriously the rain just made everyone look stupid.I've explained this like 20 times. I acknowledge Naanee's talent. I just don't think that ONE play should be used as a measurement of his talent. There were plenty of other plays that show the damage Naanee can do on a CONSISTENT basis.Can we take away Mendenhal's run while we're at it...I think the important factors are TALENT and OPPORTUNITY.....Rivers is a pretty good QB. So, this guy is what the 2nd or 3rd target? Not bad.Avery said:There was some crappy tackling on Charles 56 yard TD.Otherwise he has 10 rushes for 36 yards.I wouldn't pick him up either...Eminence said:
underdogger
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haha, are u a floyd owner and missed out on legedu? how come the conditions played a huge role for malcom but not legedu? after next sunday, i dont want to hear these same excuses for floyd. i mean wats next? floyd had a bad game bc he was staring at the hot girl in the 1st row. that is why he dropped that ball. give me a break....Did you watch the game? ...if so you would know that:1.) One of those targets was caused by Buster Davis slipping on his route and the ball just happening to be near Floyd. (Almost picked off.)2.) The conditions played a HUGE role. People were taking bad footing, Rivers was making shotty passes, no rhythm, chronically passing on 3rd and 10, it was just bad.Now everyone had to plays in the same conditions.
From watching the game it sure seemed to me that Rivers looks to Gates and Naane more than to the other options. I realize the "targets" numbers in the box score say otherwise but those numbers don't reflect the quality of the targets (i.e. a botched play wehre Rivers jacks it up in the direction of a player to avoid a sack etc...) At least one of those Floyd red zone "targets" was a hopeless attempt that was thrown many yards over his head. I believe that's the main reason that Naane converted more of his "targets" -- they were real.I watched the game as well.
12 Targets for Floyd
4 Targets for Davis
6 Targets for Gates
Looks inconclusive to him "favoring" anyone. I'd also like to note that when the game was on the line (goal line); Rivers went to Floyd and Davis.
I'd definitely pick up Naane if he's still available. I think he's in for a big year.
Did you not read:"But I'm willing to pardon most of the Chargers Receivers for any drops / miscues this week. Seriously the rain just made everyone look stupid."haha, are u a floyd owner and missed out on legedu? how come the conditions played a huge role for malcom but not legedu? after next sunday, i dont want to hear these same excuses for floyd. i mean wats next? floyd had a bad game bc he was staring at the hot girl in the 1st row. that is why he dropped that ball. give me a break....Did you watch the game? ...if so you would know that:1.) One of those targets was caused by Buster Davis slipping on his route and the ball just happening to be near Floyd. (Almost picked off.)
2.) The conditions played a HUGE role. People were taking bad footing, Rivers was making shotty passes, no rhythm, chronically passing on 3rd and 10, it was just bad.
Now everyone had to plays in the same conditions.
or
"Believe me I am a believer in Naanee's talent and have him stashed away in a few leagues."
Seriously, try harder.
DevilDog919
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Some may consider that play fluky, but I do not. Do you think its a fluke when defenses focus on the star player and lose sight of another player? It happens all of the time. Gates is the star that teams will double and in the case of last night triple team. A sneaky WR may use this to his advantage and slip his way into wide open coverage like he was in. I expect Gates to continue getting doubled/tripled all season long...so really this play was not a huge fluke that is unlikely to happen again.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Indeed good sir. F. Lee Evans was a general in the Spanish American War.
Touche'.From watching the game it sure seemed to me that Rivers looks to Gates and Naane more than to the other options. I realize the "targets" numbers in the box score say otherwise but those numbers don't reflect the quality of the targets (i.e. a botched play wehre Rivers jacks it up in the direction of a player to avoid a sack etc...) At least one of those Floyd red zone "targets" was a hopeless attempt that was thrown many yards over his head. I believe that's the main reason that Naane converted more of his "targets" -- they were real.I watched the game as well.
12 Targets for Floyd
4 Targets for Davis
6 Targets for Gates
Looks inconclusive to him "favoring" anyone. I'd also like to note that when the game was on the line (goal line); Rivers went to Floyd and Davis.
I'd definitely pick up Naane if he's still available. I think he's in for a big year.
...and honestly I don't really care if I'm wrong on this one. Can we agree to pick up this discussion next week?underdogger
Footballguy
seriously, post facts and not opinions. i can post opinions all day but that doesnt make me right. nothing u said is even worthy of being acknowledgedDid you not read:"But I'm willing to pardon most of the Chargers Receivers for any drops / miscues this week. Seriously the rain just made everyone look stupid."haha, are u a floyd owner and missed out on legedu? how come the conditions played a huge role for malcom but not legedu? after next sunday, i dont want to hear these same excuses for floyd. i mean wats next? floyd had a bad game bc he was staring at the hot girl in the 1st row. that is why he dropped that ball. give me a break....Did you watch the game? ...if so you would know that:1.) One of those targets was caused by Buster Davis slipping on his route and the ball just happening to be near Floyd. (Almost picked off.)
2.) The conditions played a HUGE role. People were taking bad footing, Rivers was making shotty passes, no rhythm, chronically passing on 3rd and 10, it was just bad.
Now everyone had to plays in the same conditions.
or
"Believe me I am a believer in Naanee's talent and have him stashed away in a few leagues."
Seriously, try harder.
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underdogger
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did u see those sweet drops by floyd all game long? i mean there was that one he slipped and rivers still put it on his chest and boom dropped. rivers overthrew that ball to legedu but clearly it was catchable. legedu>floyd. not sure how to make it more clear than that
Sam Quentin
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In evaluating the numbers, the rain, the opponent and production outliers are important factors in considering how much talent was needed to accomplish 110 and a TD, and what we can expect that level of talent to produce in the future.Don't take it personal - most aren't trying to knock "your guy," it's just that a deeper understanding of how it happened can you give you a more objective prediction of what can be expected in the future.
That Little Voice
Footballguy
Prolly makes a pretty good start vs Jax this weekend as a WR3 with some upside.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Probably Maclin this weekend coming up. Just for a frame of reference where his value sits right now. He's a nice big target but he is going to be inconsistent with Gates being the main weapon. But here is something that was written last week about Nannee.....courtesy of Whodeywhodey
I read this and immediately scooped Nannee. Acee is very well respected by the audible podcast boys and that was enough for me.
Chaka
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Tau837
Footballguy
SSOG said:
This simply isn't true.Overall targets:Floyd - 12Naanee - 8Gates - 6Davis - 4Sproles - 3Mathews - 2McMichael - 2Hester - 2Combined 3rd and 4th down targets:Floyd - 6Naanee - 4Gates - 3Davis - 2Sproles - 1End zone targets:Floyd - 3Gates - 1Naanee - 14th quarter targets:Floyd - 7Naanee - 2Gates - 1Davis - 1McMichael - 1Hester - 1IMO Floyd is still the WR to have here. He didn't have a good game yesterday, but he will have plenty of good games this year. It is possible that yesterday was Naanee's best game of the season, thanks to the blown coverage TD.It is also worth noting that the Chargers threw 39 times and aren't likely to throw that often most games. So there will be less to go around in most games.All that said, Naanee is certainly worth a flyer. Just see him as being exactly that - a flyer.
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