LenDale White Bandwagon (1 Viewer)

[Marc Levin]

Obviously THenry has earned his spot... whether the Titans will want to pay the incentives that he earned may be another thing. Could be another waiting game with Lendale, which sucks.

Could you explain this please? Is he nearing incentives in his K?I found this blurb about his contract on the Blogger:

Starting RB Chris Brown is entering the final year of his contract. The Titans will need to see him be consistent and stay healthy in order to pencil him in beyond 2006. RB Travis Henry is at a crossroads as well. Henry’s roster bonus was pushed back to 2007, meaning he is essentially playing on a one-year deal also. If RB LenDale White developes quickly, Brown and/or Henry could be the odd man out?

and here's a link to the article:

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cf...p;news_id=50985

but not very revealing.

I can't imagine Brown returning, and the two-back rotation seems to be in vogue. The Dolphins employed it well last year, the Saints and Patriots are using it well, and the Colts had success with it before Addai broke out. I am not sure how much of a hit it would be to pay his roster bonus, but I would imagine the team will seriously consider keeping Henry. Especially with White joining the team already injured and suffering injuries during the season.

White might be a part-time player to start 2007 as well.

I don't see the team giving him a lot of work before weeks 16/17 because I don't think they want to disrupt the current offensive cohesion - Henry is providing the right kind of rushing threat to help Young's development. Developing Young should be a higher priority than giving White late season playing time.

 

[Riffraff]

Obviously THenry has earned his spot... whether the Titans will want to pay the incentives that he earned may be another thing. Could be another waiting game with Lendale, which sucks.

sCould you explain this please? Is he nearing incentives in his K?

Signed a four-year contract extension through 2009 on 3/8/2005. The incentive-laden deal includes base salaries of $708,000 (2007), $871,000 (2008) and $1.03 million (2009). He is due a base salary of $585,000, the 2006 league minimum, after restructuring his contract during the 2006 offseason. When his contract was redone, an $8.3 million roster bonus was added that will lead to another restructure in the 2007 offseason.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=2271

$8.3 million reason Henry either restructures or gets cut.

 

[Marc Levin]

Thanks riffraff.

Can I ask where you got that info? I'm always at a loss to find contract details, but I can find what players are scheduled to make each year through an NFLPA site.

 

[Riffraff]

I linked it in the post. Rotoworld.

 

[Marc Levin]

Thanks.

 

[CA_7]

LenDale White (questionable, hip/flu) missed at least a portion of practice Friday, and is unlikely to be active in Week 14.

0 TDs through week 13. Vince Young has more rushing yards than LenDale Sure glad I didn't waste a draft pick on him Good luck in 2007...

Dumbest post in this thread. Congrats.Others that didn't carry the load in year one, but became starters (success may vary):Chris BrownCory Dillon - only started 6 games in year oneJulius Jones - only started 7Priest HolmesKevan BarlowCedric Houston ?

Great comparisons because like their collegiate careers and rollercoaster ride during the combine and draft were so similar to White. BTW, Thanks for the insult.

 

[Pnishthm]

LenDale White (questionable, hip/flu) missed at least a portion of practice Friday, and is unlikely to be active in Week 14.

0 TDs through week 13. Vince Young has more rushing yards than LenDale Sure glad I didn't waste a draft pick on him

Good luck in 2007...

Dumbest post in this thread. Congrats.CA_7 probably didn't waste draft picks on:

Willis McGahee

Larry Johnson

Shaun Alexander

Duece McAllister

Frank Gore

Tatum Bell

Tiki Barber

Rueben Droughns

Deshawn Foster

Ahman Green

Steven Jackson

Rudi Johnson

Thomas Jones

Lamont Jordan

Willie Parker

Chester Taylor

Brian Westbrook

All 2007 NFL starters that didn't carry the load in year one of their NFL career.

17 of 32 NFL starting RBs did not produce well in their first year in the league.

Others that didn't carry the load in year one, but became starters (success may vary):

Chris Brown

Cory Dillon - only started 6 games in year one

Julius Jones - only started 7

Priest Holmes

Kevan Barlow

Cedric Houston ?

Obviously you haven't read many of the other posts.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

LenDale White (questionable, hip/flu) missed at least a portion of practice Friday, and is unlikely to be active in Week 14.

0 TDs through week 13. Vince Young has more rushing yards than LenDale Sure glad I didn't waste a draft pick on him Good luck in 2007...

Dumbest post in this thread. Congrats.Others that didn't carry the load in year one, but became starters (success may vary):Chris BrownCory Dillon - only started 6 games in year oneJulius Jones - only started 7Priest HolmesKevan BarlowCedric Houston ?

Great comparisons because like their collegiate careers and rollercoaster ride during the combine and draft were so similar to White. BTW, Thanks for the insult.

Well, try adding something other than "he hasn't carried the ball much this year" to the discussion next time. Pretty sure we all recognize at this stage that he hasn't been productive in 2006.I traded for Lendale early this season and didn't expect him to do anything the 1st half of the year. I DID, however, expect him to get carries as the year went on. Without a doubt, I'm disappointed that Henry continues to be the go-to guy. I can see a few possible reasons for this:1) Henry is far and above the best RB on the team2) Lendale is a lazy student and hasn't picked up the offense (hard to believe given his history in Chow's scheme)3) Lendale remains out of shape or at less than 100% due to injury4) Fisher wants to keep Lendale "hungry" so that he works hard this off-seasonMy guess is a combo of #1 and 4. Henry has run the ball surprisingly well (considering he's on a poor team with a rookie QB). Fisher is smart enough to know that, if Lendale is handed the starting job as a rookie, he'll show up next year the size of Refrigerator Perry, but only able to benchpress as much as Dustin Diamond. Time will tell.

 

[Riffraff]

Great comparisons because like their collegiate careers and rollercoaster ride during the combine and draft were so similar to White. BTW, Thanks for the insult.

Well, name one player that had exactly the same circumstances as White then.If you'd like to change the criteria each post, go for it.Keep going until you get one right bro. I like your never give up style.I didn't say White was going to be that great. I'm not overly optimistic, nor overly pessimistic on the guy. To be exact, my reply to the bandwagon theme was:

For better or worse.. in.

I did refute your claim that he (or any other RB) sucks because he hasn't produced. I listed 20+ NFL starters (in 2006) who were outproduced in their first NFL season. Funny how you cut out the vast majority of them on the reply. It's relevant information that the majority at the NFL running back position falls into the same category (nonstarter and not producing) as White does right now. And none of their circumstances to get to be starter will be exactly the same.

 

[Riffraff]

I DID, however, expect him to get carries as the year went on. Without a doubt, I'm disappointed that Henry continues to be the go-to guy. I can see a few possible reasons for this:1) Henry is far and above the best RB on the team2) Lendale is a lazy student and hasn't picked up the offense (hard to believe given his history in Chow's scheme)3) Lendale remains out of shape or at less than 100% due to injury4) Fisher wants to keep Lendale "hungry" so that he works hard this off-seasonMy guess is a combo of #1 and 4. Henry has run the ball surprisingly well (considering he's on a poor team with a rookie QB). Fisher is smart enough to know that, if Lendale is handed the starting job as a rookie, he'll show up next year the size of Refrigerator Perry, but only able to benchpress as much as Dustin Diamond. Time will tell.

1. Appears so, Henry's running wild for a contract. His problems have been drugs, some fumbles, and injuries (course he played injured too). Can't complain too much, except for the drugs. Big risk there.2. Can't see this one being true at the moment, otherwise they wouldn't even suit him up each week.3. This is a given. Injured entering the season, injured during the season. Couldn't participate in off-season conditioning. Rookie QB needs veteran protection.4. Not sure of this one. All coaches would like their players hungry, but usually the hunger has to come from within the player himself to be truly effective and long lasting.I vote for 1 and 3. A good player ahead of him and playing behind the 8-ball all season long.

 

[Rev]

Bump in light of Henry's signing and Brown's apparent departure.

Is the chubby one about to regain his former college greatness?

 

[prymetyme25]

Where do I sign up for a membership?

 

[Pnishthm]

Bump in light of Henry's signing and Brown's apparent departure.Is the chubby one about to regain his former college greatness?

Ohhhh god, here we go again. Nice of you to show your face again rev.

 

[Rev]

Bump in light of Henry's signing and Brown's apparent departure.Is the chubby one about to regain his former college greatness?

Ohhhh god, here we go again. Nice of you to show your face again rev.

Don't you worry about me, Pnishthm... I'm a regular around here. You just settle in and enjoy the ride. Cynics welcome.

 

[matuski]

Bump in light of Henry's signing and Brown's apparent departure.Is the chubby one about to regain his former college greatness?

His greatness will last about as long as it did last season... when they bring in one of the many veteran backs that will share carries/beat him out like last year.

 

[perry147]

Bump in light of Henry's signing and Brown's apparent departure.Is the chubby one about to regain his former college greatness?

His greatness will last about as long as it did last season... when they bring in one of the many veteran backs that will share carries/beat him out like last year.

They tried so hard last year to give the job to White but he just could do it. How is next year going to be better?

 

[Riffraff]

Bump in light of Henry's signing and Brown's apparent departure.Is the chubby one about to regain his former college greatness?

His greatness will last about as long as it did last season... when they bring in one of the many veteran backs that will share carries/beat him out like last year.

They tried so hard last year to give the job to White but he just could do it. How is next year going to be better?

Umm, they didn't try very hard to give him the job. They wanted a veteran on the field while they groomed Vince Young. Now it's time to groom Lendale as they released/chose not to re-sign the veterans.One would notice that Lendale wasn't the "3rd RB" that never suited up, that spot was rotated by Henry and Brown. If Lendale was so bad he wouldn't have suited up each week.Also see previous replies where the majority of all NFL starting RBs in 2006 were not the leading rusher of the team in their rookie year. That said, the Titans WILL bring in another RB via free agency and/or draft. Reason: no NFL team goes into the season with only 2 RBs on the roster (White and Ganther). They need depth whether the White haters believe it or not.

 

[Pnishthm]

Bump in light of Henry's signing and Brown's apparent departure.Is the chubby one about to regain his former college greatness?

Ohhhh god, here we go again. Nice of you to show your face again rev.

Don't you worry about me, Pnishthm... I'm a regular around here. You just settle in and enjoy the ride. Cynics welcome.

Hard to enjoy the ride when the driver dissapears from the bus when things aren't going so well The ride gets way too bumpy that way.

 

[EBF]

Bump in light of Henry's signing and Brown's apparent departure.Is the chubby one about to regain his former college greatness?

His greatness will last about as long as it did last season... when they bring in one of the many veteran backs that will share carries/beat him out like last year.

They tried so hard last year to give the job to White but he just could do it. How is next year going to be better?

Umm, they didn't try very hard to give him the job. They wanted a veteran on the field while they groomed Vince Young. Now it's time to groom Lendale as they released/chose not to re-sign the veterans.One would notice that Lendale wasn't the "3rd RB" that never suited up, that spot was rotated by Henry and Brown. If Lendale was so bad he wouldn't have suited up each week.Also see previous replies where the majority of all NFL starting RBs in 2006 were not the leading rusher of the team in their rookie year. That said, the Titans WILL bring in another RB via free agency and/or draft. Reason: no NFL team goes into the season with only 2 RBs on the roster (White and Ganther). They need depth whether the White haters believe it or not.

I'm very curious to see how Mr. White responds to this opportunity. Based on talent alone, I think he can be something like Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis. Let's just hope he puts in the work.

 

[Rev]

LenDale White will win the rushing crown in 2007. 1800 and 14, easy.

Just kidding. But I am continually shocked how the Titans brass seems relatively content to hand him the reigns, and I'm quite eager to see how this one pans out. My biggest dillema: is this the time to trade White, or is he actually going to live up to the name 'starter'?

 

[redman]

George Jefferson:William Green = Rev:LenDale White

That said, I'm rooting for LenDale.

 

[Spike]

Do any of you reading this who own White feel like right now might be a good time to try to sell him high figuring you might reel someone in who might be overvaluing him?

 

[EBF]

Do any of you reading this who own White feel like right now might be a good time to try to sell him high figuring you might reel someone in who might be overvaluing him?

It probably doesn't make sense to trade him right now. His trade value still isn't very high. He has a lot of skeptics after his quiet rookie year and it will take 1-2 big games to remind those people that White can play. I think the smart move is to hold or even buy. His value might dip a little bit when Tennessee signs or drafts his competition, but I think his price tag will ultimately increase substantially over the next 8 months.

 

[Rev]

George Jefferson:William Green = Rev:LenDale White

That said, I'm rooting for LenDale.

Red, Red, Red... how you could possibly post the above immediate following my post (below) has me concerned about your reading comprehension!

LenDale White will win the rushing crown in 2007. 1800 and 14, easy.

Just kidding. But I am continually shocked how the Titans brass seems relatively content to hand him the reigns, and I'm quite eager to see how this one pans out. My biggest dillema: is this the time to trade White, or is he actually going to live up to the name 'starter'?

This, and my other recent posts, have been somewhat skeptical about LenDale's future.

 

[Rev]

Rev: Can someone tell the driver that we missed the turn-

(silence)

Rev: Hello?

(silence)

Rev: Where's the freegin' driver!?

(the bandwagon begins to sway back and forth and begins to grind over the shoulder of the road)

Rev: Where is everybody?

(silence)

Rev: Uh oh...

 

[Warpig]

Rev: Can someone tell the driver that we missed the turn-

(silence)

Rev: Hello?

(silence)

Rev: Where's the freegin' driver!?

(the bandwagon begins to sway back and forth and begins to grind over the shoulder of the road)

Rev: Where is everybody?

(silence)

Rev: Uh oh...

A guy in my 32 team league with IDP's (40 man roster) just gave up the 1.13 and more than likely a top 5 pick in the 2008 draft for Lendale! Unfortunately the guy that got the two 1st rounders is in my division!!

 

[Rev]

LenDale's 1st 100 yard game is now in the books.

There is plenty of room for skeptics on the LenDale Bandwagon (I'd still consider myself one).

Join us in the name of optimism, diversity and inclusivity. LenDale will provide free peanuts and cookies.

Regards,

Rev

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

LenDale's 1st 100 yard game is now in the books. There is plenty of room for skeptics on the LenDale Bandwagon (I'd still consider myself one). Join us in the name of optimism, diversity and inclusivity. LenDale will provide free peanuts and cookies.Regards,Rev

Holy bejesus, a bump from waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy back. My advice, sell like your Travis Henry: HIGH. Sell, sell, sell. He may never see the century mark again.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I dunno....going forward I only see 2 definitive "bad" matchups for The Whale on his schedule: The Jags and the Bolts.

He's on a team with a good OL, a coach that wants to run it and who(inexplicalbly perhaps) seems to want this guy to succeed. His only competition is a 2nd rounder that almost everyone thinks is trash(although I doubt the Titans do) and a girl made of glass who is currently injured. Even with them working in Henry this past week, The Whale had, what, 30 carries? 4 or 5 catches? The longer that Brown is out, the more opportunity that White has to solidify his 20+ touches a game. And if yesterday is any indication, they're clearly going to rely on him at the stripe in Brown's absence.

I don't know that I'd sprint to the market, but I'd say you should maybe dip your toe into the tepid waters of the Shamu tank....but only if the price per pound isn't too high this week.

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

I dunno....going forward I only see 2 definitive "bad" matchups for The Whale on his schedule: The Jags and the Bolts. He's on a team with a good OL, a coach that wants to run it and who(inexplicalbly perhaps) seems to want this guy to succeed. His only competition is a 2nd rounder that almost everyone thinks is trash(although I doubt the Titans do) and a girl made of glass who is currently injured. Even with them working in Henry this past week, The Whale had, what, 30 carries? 4 or 5 catches? The longer that Brown is out, the more opportunity that White has to solidify his 20+ touches a game. And if yesterday is any indication, they're clearly going to rely on him at the stripe in Brown's absence. I don't know that I'd sprint to the market, but I'd say you should maybe dip your toe into the tepid waters of the Shamu tank....but only if the price per pound isn't too high this week.

Good post and Fatlen is on my roster. I just can't get anything for him. I'm freakin' elated with his production this week, I just can't see it being a sustained effort. If I can package him for an elite WR or D, he's gone.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I'm on the wagon. As a matter of fact, I'm putting White in my starting lineup full time for the rest of the season.

(Ronnie Brown owner)

 

[Rev]

Don't look now, but LW is on pace for 1000 yards.

There are still seats open on the Fat-Wagon. LenDale's dipping into his private stash of beef jerky and twinkies for the next 5 passengers.