Lendale White (1 Viewer)

[DeepOut]

Can anyone give me an explanation of White's lack of performance last year and prospects for this year.

Tennesee has given upon Brown and now word is they're letting T. Henry go because he's due a huge bonus if they keep him. Will Tenn count on White? How could they after last years non performance? I'm sure I'm missing something.

 

[EBF]

Will Tenn count on White? How could they after last years non performance? I'm sure I'm missing something.

Who says White didn't perform last year? He wasn't the starter, but he played okay. He had 244 rushing yards at a decent 4.0 YPC clip. Compare that to the rookie years of some other prominent RBs:Rudi Johnson - 0 yards on 0 carriesPriest Holmes - 0 yards on 0 carriesLarry Johnson - 85 yards on 20 carries (4.3 YPC)Deuce McAllister - 91 yards on 16 carries (5.7 YPC)Willie Parker - 186 yards on 32 carries (5.8 YPC)Brian Westbrook - 193 yards on 46 carries (4.2 YPC)Ahman Green - 209 yards on 35 carries (6.0 YPC)Shaun Alexander - 313 yards on 64 carries (4.9 YPC)Tiki Barber - 511 yards on 136 carries (3.8 YPC)You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you always expect greatness in a player's first year. White is exactly what he was last year. A good prospect with a decent chance to eventually become a productive starter.

 

[JAA]

rookie

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Will Tenn count on White? How could they after last years non performance? I'm sure I'm missing something.

Who says White didn't perform last year? He wasn't the starter, but he played okay. He had 244 rushing yards at a decent 4.0 YPC clip. Compare that to the rookie years of some other prominent RBs:Rudi Johnson - 0 yards on 0 carriesPriest Holmes - 0 yards on 0 carriesLarry Johnson - 85 yards on 20 carries (4.3 YPC)Deuce McAllister - 91 yards on 16 carries (5.7 YPC)Willie Parker - 186 yards on 32 carries (5.8 YPC)Brian Westbrook - 193 yards on 46 carries (4.2 YPC)Ahman Green - 209 yards on 35 carries (6.0 YPC)Shaun Alexander - 313 yards on 64 carries (4.9 YPC)Tiki Barber - 511 yards on 136 carries (3.8 YPC)You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you always expect greatness in a player's first year. White is exactly what he was last year. A good prospect with a decent chance to eventually become a productive starter.

Looks like LenDale White would finish last on that list.

 

[LHUCKS]

Let's see, came out early and he was a rookie.

Time to buy low on Lendale.

 

[EBF]

Will Tenn count on White? How could they after last years non performance? I'm sure I'm missing something.

Who says White didn't perform last year? He wasn't the starter, but he played okay. He had 244 rushing yards at a decent 4.0 YPC clip. Compare that to the rookie years of some other prominent RBs:Rudi Johnson - 0 yards on 0 carriesPriest Holmes - 0 yards on 0 carriesLarry Johnson - 85 yards on 20 carries (4.3 YPC)Deuce McAllister - 91 yards on 16 carries (5.7 YPC)Willie Parker - 186 yards on 32 carries (5.8 YPC)Brian Westbrook - 193 yards on 46 carries (4.2 YPC)Ahman Green - 209 yards on 35 carries (6.0 YPC)Shaun Alexander - 313 yards on 64 carries (4.9 YPC)Tiki Barber - 511 yards on 136 carries (3.8 YPC)You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you always expect greatness in a player's first year. White is exactly what he was last year. A good prospect with a decent chance to eventually become a productive starter.

Looks like LenDale White would finish last on that list.

He's not last in yards or in YPC. The negativity towards guys like White and C. Perry reminds me of the negativity towards Thomas Jones and Larry Johnson early in their careers. Some players bust and there's plenty of reason to be skeptical about both of these guys, but you ignore them at your own peril. They were drafted high for a reason. Keep that in mind.

 

[msommer]

Let's see, came out early and he was a rookie.Time to buy low on Lendale.

He seemed to have a string of injuries that kept on nagging him - hamstring, then toe, others?If that continues he's going to be a worse pickup than Chris Brown

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Will Tenn count on White? How could they after last years non performance? I'm sure I'm missing something.

Who says White didn't perform last year? He wasn't the starter, but he played okay. He had 244 rushing yards at a decent 4.0 YPC clip. Compare that to the rookie years of some other prominent RBs:Rudi Johnson - 0 yards on 0 carriesPriest Holmes - 0 yards on 0 carriesLarry Johnson - 85 yards on 20 carries (4.3 YPC)Deuce McAllister - 91 yards on 16 carries (5.7 YPC)Willie Parker - 186 yards on 32 carries (5.8 YPC)Brian Westbrook - 193 yards on 46 carries (4.2 YPC)Ahman Green - 209 yards on 35 carries (6.0 YPC)Shaun Alexander - 313 yards on 64 carries (4.9 YPC)Tiki Barber - 511 yards on 136 carries (3.8 YPC)You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you always expect greatness in a player's first year. White is exactly what he was last year. A good prospect with a decent chance to eventually become a productive starter.

Looks like LenDale White would finish last on that list.

He's not last in yards or in YPC. The negativity towards guys like White and C. Perry reminds me of the negativity towards Thomas Jones and Larry Johnson early in their careers. Some players bust and there's plenty of reason to be skeptical about both of these guys, but you ignore them at your own peril. They were drafted high for a reason. Keep that in mind.

JJ Arrington. eom.

 

[JohnnyU]

Let's see, came out early and he was a rookie.Time to buy low on Lendale.

He seemed to have a string of injuries that kept on nagging him - hamstring, then toe, others?If that continues he's going to be a worse pickup than Chris Brown

Isn't he a tub of goo? Is he, or is he not a workout warrior?

 

[crnerblitz]

Lendale didn't live up to his preseason hype that is for sure. I too think he is a good buy low prospect. The problem is I doubt he is being pedaled for scraps in established dynasty leagues. His owner invested a top 5 rookie pick in him and is most likely to just sit on him even being emboldened by the Henry rumors. In 2006 start up leagues I could see his owners valuing him much less. How much?? I dunno?

I think this is the perfect thread to discuss that value though.

I think maybe rookie pick 1.6 might get you White.

 

[Colin Dowling]

He actually was very good at picking up extra yardage and pass protection. While I hope the Titans get something worked out with Henry, it won't be the end of the world if he leaves and White is given the bulk of the carries.

I agree he is a good "buy low" candidate.

 

[EBF]

Lendale didn't live up to his preseason hype that is for sure. I too think he is a good buy low prospect. The problem is I doubt he is being pedaled for scraps in established dynasty leagues. His owner invested a top 5 rookie pick in him and is most likely to just sit on him even being emboldened by the Henry rumors. In 2006 start up leagues I could see his owners valuing him much less. How much?? I dunno?I think this is the perfect thread to discuss that value though.I think maybe rookie pick 1.6 might get you White.

I think he's better than any of the backs in this draft not named Lynch or Peterson. I wouldn't trade him for 1.04.

 

[Gandalf]

I think he's better than any of the backs in this draft not named Lynch or Peterson. I wouldn't trade him for 1.04.

Me neither. White's probably stemmed from lack of opportunity with Henry and Brown in the mix. His injuries were relatively minor and partially flu-like for a couple of weeks, IIRC. LenDale's role will grow with the team this year and he might even emerge as the starter. I'm really not worried about whether it takes 1-2 more years for him to develop. Plus, let's not forget that Norm Chow is the offensive coordinator and knows exactly what he has in LenDale White.

 

[CA_7]

I think this sums it up...

Tough start

After a 3,159-yard, 52-touchdown career at Southern Cal, White was considered a steal midway through the second round.

But in minicamps he was slowed by a hamstring injury. When training camp started he dug himself into a deep hole with teammates when he spit in the face of safety Donnie Nickey during an on-field skirmish.

White was suspended for a preseason game, but did damage that lingered through the season. On the field, White showed flashes. He also missed a few games, one because of a hip injury, another because of the flu.

"He is young now,'' Titans linebacker Keith Bulluck said. "But once he understands what it takes to be the best in this league, what he wants to be, I think he'll be great.''

Titans Coach Jeff Fisher said he's counting on White to have a big offseason in the strength and conditioning program.

"He really didn't have the luxury of benefiting from an offseason program last year because of the injuries and everything. It's going to be very important for him,'' Fisher said. "He finished up strong. He's healthy. He was productive when given the opportunity."

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../701150346/1027

 

[crnerblitz]

Well I wouldn't exactly call 1.3 a buy low opportunity. Referencing the consensus rb rankings Marshawn Lynch came in at RB 25. Can we safely say he fits somewhere around there on your RB lists? I have him right in that 25- 30 range. The thing is I dont think people holding 1.3 would trade it for White. Anyone with the 1.3 please chime in.

A previous topic pointed out that the 1.3 rookie is worth abut the same as 3.2 in a startup dynasty draft. The 1.4 being worth pick 3.11. So we may get a clearer indication of Whites trade value if someone could add any ADP values for those picks. FBG dynasty rankings list Deuce McAllister @3.2 and finishes with Marques Colsten @3.11. More specifically there are 5 players within those slots that I would trade White for. While there is probably only 3 players I would trade the 1.3 for. Again just trying to determine some value here. All input is welcome.

 

[Domination]

I think that White will be given the opportunity due to Chow. But I don't think that he will be able to capitalize on it. I do not see him progressing into the back that many thinks that he will. That being said, he does fit into one of my criteria for RBs to succeed. That is that he plays for a team that like to run the ball, and if you give someone the ball enough good things will eventually happen.

 

[FTRWRTR]

Lendale didn't live up to his preseason hype that is for sure. I too think he is a good buy low prospect. The problem is I doubt he is being pedaled for scraps in established dynasty leagues. His owner invested a top 5 rookie pick in him and is most likely to just sit on him even being emboldened by the Henry rumors. In 2006 start up leagues I could see his owners valuing him much less. How much?? I dunno?I think this is the perfect thread to discuss that value though.I think maybe rookie pick 1.6 might get you White.

Just to give ppl an idea I traded him away this past offseaon along with alex smith(the qb) for mcnair and jerious norwoodPersonally I felt white would be a bust even before I drafted him but since he "fell" to me at 1:6 I felt obligated to take him. My reasoning is that it's alot easier to be a productive rb when the defenses have to worry about stopping another rb first. Not to mention the defenders in the NFL are bigger, stronger, and faster than the ones he faced when he played for USC. And now he can't seem to stay healthy and that is yet another concern

 

[EBF]

Lendale didn't live up to his preseason hype that is for sure. I too think he is a good buy low prospect. The problem is I doubt he is being pedaled for scraps in established dynasty leagues. His owner invested a top 5 rookie pick in him and is most likely to just sit on him even being emboldened by the Henry rumors. In 2006 start up leagues I could see his owners valuing him much less. How much?? I dunno?I think this is the perfect thread to discuss that value though.I think maybe rookie pick 1.6 might get you White.

Just to give ppl an idea I traded him away this past offseaon along with alex smith(the qb) for mcnair and jerious norwoodPersonally I felt white would be a bust even before I drafted him but since he "fell" to me at 1:6 I felt obligated to take him. My reasoning is that it's alot easier to be a productive rb when the defenses have to worry about stopping another rb first.

You make some valid points, but as a guy who watched a lot of USC during the White/Bush years, I can tell you that #21 did a lot of his damage with Reggie on the sidelines. He was flat out unstoppable in the second half of games. That said, he's not the greatest athlete around and there are some legitimate character concerns. I don't think I'd trade him for Norwood though (although I may be in the minority there).

 

[Gandalf]

You make some valid points, but as a guy who watched a lot of USC during the White/Bush years, I can tell you that #21 did a lot of his damage with Reggie on the sidelines. He was flat out unstoppable in the second half of games. That said, he's not the greatest athlete around and there are some legitimate character concerns. I don't think I'd trade him for Norwood though (although I may be in the minority there).

Is it really character concerns or more maturity? I ask because in my mind there is a big difference between the two. A guy who is immature and can grow up or be coached into a man. A guy with legitimate character concerns is someone who is having trouble walking the line legally and ethically. You know the type of person who beats his wife, does massive amounts of cocaine when not on the football field, or participates in murders in some way.My impression is that LenDale White falls into the immature category, not the character concern category. He seems like a decent person who just needs to grow up. And his statements this off season lead me to believe that this is happening.