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Lendale's agent is the smartest man on the planet (1 Viewer)

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During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40!

That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.

The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.

 
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
I'd say he is a pretty good running back. He rushed for 1,100 yards last year at the ripe old age of 23, and has already rushed for 10 TDs halfway through the season. I don't understand where the hate for him come from. He is obviously a good player in this league. Is he a stud or a top-notch athlete? Probably not. But he's a football player, and a damn good one at that. Ask Reggie Bush how much his chiseled body is helping him rack up those yards and TDs.
 
Why would you say that Lendale sucks at running back? I think that he has obviously proven otherwise. Did you forget to watch the 2007-2008 season?

 
Phlash said:
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
I'd say he is a pretty good running back. He rushed for 1,100 yards last year at the ripe old age of 23, and has already rushed for 10 TDs halfway through the season. I don't understand where the hate for him come from. He is obviously a good player in this league. Is he a stud or a top-notch athlete? Probably not. But he's a football player, and a damn good one at that. Ask Reggie Bush how much his chiseled body is helping him rack up those yards and TDs.
Do you consider T.J Duckett a good RB? He would be probably be putting up similar numbers in Tenn in the same role
 
Phlash said:
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
I'd say he is a pretty good running back. He rushed for 1,100 yards last year at the ripe old age of 23, and has already rushed for 10 TDs halfway through the season. I don't understand where the hate for him come from. He is obviously a good player in this league. Is he a stud or a top-notch athlete? Probably not. But he's a football player, and a damn good one at that. Ask Reggie Bush how much his chiseled body is helping him rack up those yards and TDs.
Do you consider T.J Duckett a good RB? He would be probably be putting up similar numbers in Tenn in the same role
And my aunt would probably be my uncle if she had balls....Point is, the guy is STILL getting a good # of carries despite that ever-dangerous CJ3's presence. TJ Duckett has bounced around to several teams and has never carved out that role. Not all big RB's are the same. It's not as simple as weighing 240-250 lbs and getting a job if you land in the right situation. Bettis was Bettis because of how good he was, not because of how big he was. I was down on LenDale when he first came in and all of last year. This year, while his yardage stats aren't anything impressive and he doesn't "wow" me on the field, he's doing well enough for a top-notch head coach like Jeff Fisher to think he deserves to be on the field. The guy should start getting his due.
 
Phlash said:
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
I'd say he is a pretty good running back. He rushed for 1,100 yards last year at the ripe old age of 23, and has already rushed for 10 TDs halfway through the season. I don't understand where the hate for him come from. He is obviously a good player in this league. Is he a stud or a top-notch athlete? Probably not. But he's a football player, and a damn good one at that. Ask Reggie Bush how much his chiseled body is helping him rack up those yards and TDs.
Do you consider T.J Duckett a good RB? He would be probably be putting up similar numbers in Tenn in the same role
Perhaps...but he fits the role well.And when the titans need a power back...they have one. He is Fisher's kind of guy...goes forward...does not often lose yards...holds on to the football.Great compliment to Johnson.
 
Phlash said:
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
I'd say he is a pretty good running back. He rushed for 1,100 yards last year at the ripe old age of 23, and has already rushed for 10 TDs halfway through the season. I don't understand where the hate for him come from. He is obviously a good player in this league. Is he a stud or a top-notch athlete? Probably not. But he's a football player, and a damn good one at that. Ask Reggie Bush how much his chiseled body is helping him rack up those yards and TDs.
Haha. It's funny how you say, "Why do people hate on this player?" Then go hate on another player in the same paragraph. And I think Bush is doing just fine, anyway.
 
Phlash said:
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
I'd say he is a pretty good running back. He rushed for 1,100 yards last year at the ripe old age of 23, and has already rushed for 10 TDs halfway through the season. I don't understand where the hate for him come from. He is obviously a good player in this league. Is he a stud or a top-notch athlete? Probably not. But he's a football player, and a damn good one at that. Ask Reggie Bush how much his chiseled body is helping him rack up those yards and TDs.
Do you consider T.J Duckett a good RB? He would be probably be putting up similar numbers in Tenn in the same role
Duckett had more quicks
 
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
he also had a bad Hamstring injury at the time too...
 
I think more than anything what frustrates people is the guy has a lot of ability and if he'd actually work hard durig the off season and come into camp in shape he could be quite a bit more effective that he is now.

 
Bettis was a tub or lard too, and he had a pretty successful career. Lay off the fat boy.
My wife was laughing because I needed points last night from White, Wayne and Bironas and all I kept saying was to give it to the fat kid.
 
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
Teams need role players. RBBC is how teams are winning. LenDale plays that role of grinder/goalline back. No, he's not fast, but doesn't need to be. Guess he was fast enough to outrun the KC DEF for 80 yards, though.
 
One of my favorite "quick and easy" stats for ranking RB effectiveness is adjusted yards per carry over 3.0. Adjusted means every RB gets a 20 yard bonus (complicated explanation found here) for every rushing touchdown. "Over 3.0" means only adjusted yards over three yards per carry count. So a RB with 400 yards on 100 carries with 0 TDs would have 100 adjusted rushing yards over 3.0. A RB with 300 yards on 100 carries with 5 TDs would also have 100 ARYO3.0. This does a good job of mixing in the high YPC guys with the high TD guys and the high carry guys. Anyway, here's the list for this year:

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rsh	ryd	rtd  ARYO3.0Portis, Clinton	WAS	 187	944	7	523Jacobs, Brandon	NYG	 114	563	6	341Turner, Michael	ATL	 145	655	6	340Peterson, Adrian	MIN	151	684	5	331Gore, Frank	SF		  136	629	4	301Johnson, Chris	TEN	  103	549	3	300Slaton, Steve	HOU	   104	476	5	264Westbrook, Brian	PHI	 76	361	6	253Barber, Marion	DAL	  153	611	5	252Brown, Ronnie	MIA		98	406	7	252Jones, Thomas	NYJ	   122	532	4	246Graham, Earnest	TB	  112	498	4	242Jones, Felix	DAL		 30	266	3	236White, LenDale	TEN	   80	314	8	234Jackson, Steven	STL	 121	508	4	225Williams, DeAngelo	CAR  121	525	3	222Lynch, Marshawn	BUF	 124	461	6	209Tomlinson, Ladainian	SD 142	551	4	205Jones-Drew, Maurice	JAX  77	330	5	199Jones, Julius	SEA	   103	468	2	199Johnson, Larry	KC		93	417	3	198Ward, Derrick	NYG		60	374	0	194Pittman, Michael	DEN	 69	317	4	190Moore, Mewelde	PIT	   65	322	3	187Morris, Sammy	NE		 69	307	4	180Dunn, Warrick	TB		 89	423	1	176Stewart, Jonathan	CAR	95	359	5	174Norwood, Jerious	ATL	 45	285	1	170Smith, Kevin	DET		 56	268	3	160McFadden, Darren	OAK	 67	341	1	160McClain, Le'Ron	BAL	  78	313	4	159Lewis, Jamal	CLE		129	484	3	157Forte, Matt	CHI		 147	515	4	154Young, Selvin	DEN		47	266	1	145Faulk, Kevin	NE		  36	212	2	144Parker, Willie	PIT	   66	263	3	125James, Edgerrin	ARI	 108	380	3	116Washington, Leon	NYJ	 27	155	2	114McGahee, Willis	BAL	 100	351	3	111Addai, Joseph	IND		62	216	4	110Hightower, Tim	ARI	   49	133	6	106
 
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
Teams need role players. RBBC is how teams are winning. LenDale plays that role of grinder/goalline back. No, he's not fast, but doesn't need to be. Guess he was fast enough to outrun the KC DEF for 80 yards, though.
Steve Bono was fast enough to outrun the ARI DEF for 76 yards, but that didn't make him fast.
 
Bettis was a tub or lard too, and he had a pretty successful career. Lay off the fat boy.
I think Bettis had quicker feet, better vision and was in better shape than Lendale. Maybe the last year of his career Bettis had a sloppy looking gut like Lendale but most of his career he was known as someone who worked hard in the off season. To the point that it almost became a running joke because every year I would hear Bettis was in the best shape of his life.I'm in the camp that thinks Lendale is a role player. So he ran for 1,100 yards last year which is not real impressive if you stay healthy for 16 games and get enough carries. In today's NFL it's not such a bad thing to be a role playing RB like Lendale and the Titans deserve a lot of credit for using Lendale to the best of his ability.
 
Phlash said:
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
I'd say he is a pretty good running back. He rushed for 1,100 yards last year at the ripe old age of 23, and has already rushed for 10 TDs halfway through the season. I don't understand where the hate for him come from. He is obviously a good player in this league. Is he a stud or a top-notch athlete? Probably not. But he's a football player, and a damn good one at that. Ask Reggie Bush how much his chiseled body is helping him rack up those yards and TDs.
Do you consider T.J Duckett a good RB? He would be probably be putting up similar numbers in Tenn in the same role
And my aunt would probably be my uncle if she had balls....Point is, the guy is STILL getting a good # of carries despite that ever-dangerous CJ3's presence. TJ Duckett has bounced around to several teams and has never carved out that role.
Really have you looked at the stats? Did you forget that TJ played for ATL his first 4 years
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Team	Games	Att	Yds	TD	AVG	TD/GameATL	11	130	507	4	3.9	0.36ATL	16	197	779	11	4	0.69ATL	13	104	509	8	4.9	0.62ATL	14	121	380	8	3.1	0.57WAS	10	38	132	2	3.5	0.20DET	12	65	335	3	5.2	0.25SEA	6	36	105	4	2.9	0.67						Team	Games	Att	Yds	TD	AVG	TD/GameTEN	13	61	244	0	4	0.00TEN	16	303	1110	7	3.7	0.44TEN	6	80	314	7	3.9	1.17
They seem pretty comparable to me
 
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Phlash said:
shader said:
During Lendale's preparation for the draft, his agent didn't allow him to run the .40! That turned out to be the best move in NFL history. Who knows what fatman would have ran? 4.9? He probably would have fell to the late rounds, but instead got picked in the 2nd.The guy sucks as a running back but is a goalline beast.
I'd say he is a pretty good running back. He rushed for 1,100 yards last year at the ripe old age of 23, and has already rushed for 10 TDs halfway through the season. I don't understand where the hate for him come from. He is obviously a good player in this league. Is he a stud or a top-notch athlete? Probably not. But he's a football player, and a damn good one at that. Ask Reggie Bush how much his chiseled body is helping him rack up those yards and TDs.
Do you consider T.J Duckett a good RB? He would be probably be putting up similar numbers in Tenn in the same role
And my aunt would probably be my uncle if she had balls....Point is, the guy is STILL getting a good # of carries despite that ever-dangerous CJ3's presence. TJ Duckett has bounced around to several teams and has never carved out that role.
Really have you looked at the stats? Did you forget that TJ played for ATL his first 4 years
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Team	Games	Att	Yds	TD	AVG	TD/GameATL	11	130	507	4	3.9	0.36ATL	16	197	779	11	4	0.69ATL	13	104	509	8	4.9	0.62ATL	14	121	380	8	3.1	0.57WAS	10	38	132	2	3.5	0.20DET	12	65	335	3	5.2	0.25SEA	6	36	105	4	2.9	0.67						Team	Games	Att	Yds	TD	AVG	TD/GameTEN	13	61	244	0	4	0.00TEN	16	303	1110	7	3.7	0.44TEN	6	80	314	7	3.9	1.17
They seem pretty comparable to me
Um, no I didn't forget. He's been on 4 teams in the last 4 yrs. What about my statement "he's bounced around to several teams" isn't true? And no, he hasn't carved out the role that LenDale has. Duckett's career high in carries is 197. LenDale had over 300 in just his 2nd year in the league. Per your log above, he has 80 in just 6 games. That's on pace for 215 carries which would still be higher than Duckett's career high in 7 yrs in the league. After his 197 carries with Atlanta, he's had 120 carries or less over the next 5 years. Therefore, he has not carved out that role. The very next year after the year where he was "featured" (if you want to call 197 carries featured), he lost the role and has been essentially insignificant ever since. I don't know how you could argue he's carved out a similar role as LenDale when he was clearly the feature back last year in his 2nd year and is still handling a larger load than Duckett ever did while splitting time with CJ3. I'm not trying to say that LenDale is going to be a solid prospect every year from here on out, but I also don't think you can take any large RB like Duckett and say he could do the same thing as LenDale. Not anything that can be proven either way, just my opinion.
 

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