Let's Talk Penn State Football (1 Viewer)

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I think for the foreseeable future, people will associate Penn State football with child molestation. If I'm a high school senior being recruited by multiple schools, that's enough to send me elsewhere.

Really? Its not like the entire coaching staff were running a train on little boys. 1 sick person was, and someone who hasnt even been coaching for them for over a decade. Once Paterno is gone and the trial is over, I dont see this scandal and someone that makes recruits go elsewhere. PSU will always have a great town in State College, Beaver stadium, and smoking hot coeds.

I guess we'll see. I'd be surprised if you're right.

 

[Major]

[You are failing to grasp the difference between what you are mandated to do and what you are able to do.Let me give you a comparison.If I found out that our former youth pastor, who is now a volunteer, is molesting one of our kids, I would take that information to our senior pastor. At that point, it would become mandatory for him to report this information.But that doesn't mean that I still can't go to the police on my own and report what I know. And you can be certain that if I'm not sure that he went to the police, I'm going to them.ETA: I'm talking about Paterno here.

Give sPitt credit, the minute they found out their new head coach was an alleged wife beater, he was GONE. Oh that PSU could've done the same.

Can't give them credit since the charges were dropped and they basically wrecked a young man's career.

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

Why wouldn't the great players go to Pitt or a top out-of-state school rather than going to Creepy Valley? I don't think this will be that easy to turn around.

Does anyone believe that this is a deeply embedded institutional problem at Penn State? Maybe you're right and there are a lot of dumb people who do. I don't think this stuff sticks to institutions as tightly as the media hyperventilators would have us believe.

I think for the foreseeable future, people will associate Penn State football with child molestation. If I'm a high school senior being recruited by multiple schools, that's enough to send me elsewhere.

Really? Its not like the entire coaching staff were running a train on little boys. 1 sick person was, and someone who hasnt even been coaching for them for over a decade. Once Paterno is gone and the trial is over, I dont see this scandal as something that makes recruits go elsewhere. PSU will always have a great town in State College, Beaver stadium, and smoking hot coeds.

I think you're right. But, the new regime has to take over sooner, rather than later. They can't #####foot around getting Paterno out. He's got to go ASAP. Regardless of whether you think he did the right thing or not, his name is now superglued to this incident. The slate needs to be wiped clean immediately of anyone with any knowledge or any involvement of this horrible episode.I think once that's done and there's a new coaching staff, AD, and university president in place, recruiting and the fanbase will return very quickly. The black mark will always been there, without a doubt, but folks will move on.

 

[Kenny Powers]

[You are failing to grasp the difference between what you are mandated to do and what you are able to do.Let me give you a comparison.If I found out that our former youth pastor, who is now a volunteer, is molesting one of our kids, I would take that information to our senior pastor. At that point, it would become mandatory for him to report this information.But that doesn't mean that I still can't go to the police on my own and report what I know. And you can be certain that if I'm not sure that he went to the police, I'm going to them.ETA: I'm talking about Paterno here.

Give sPitt credit, the minute they found out their new head coach was an alleged wife beater, he was GONE. Oh that PSU could've done the same.

Can't give them credit since the charges were dropped and they basically wrecked a young man's career.

Plus they fired a guy who worked for them for 4 days and not 46 years like JoePa..Great comparison

 

[Kenny Powers]

Why wouldn't the great players go to Pitt or a top out-of-state school rather than going to Creepy Valley? I don't think this will be that easy to turn around.

Does anyone believe that this is a deeply embedded institutional problem at Penn State? Maybe you're right and there are a lot of dumb people who do. I don't think this stuff sticks to institutions as tightly as the media hyperventilators would have us believe.

I think for the foreseeable future, people will associate Penn State football with child molestation. If I'm a high school senior being recruited by multiple schools, that's enough to send me elsewhere.

Really? Its not like the entire coaching staff were running a train on little boys. 1 sick person was, and someone who hasnt even been coaching for them for over a decade. Once Paterno is gone and the trial is over, I dont see this scandal as something that makes recruits go elsewhere. PSU will always have a great town in State College, Beaver stadium, and smoking hot coeds.

I think you're right. But, the new regime has to take over sooner, rather than later. They can't #####foot around getting Paterno out. He's got to go ASAP. Regardless of whether you think he did the right thing or not, his name is now superglued to this incident. The slate needs to be wiped clean immediately of anyone with any knowledge or any involvement of this horrible episode.I think once that's done and there's a new coaching staff, AD, and university president in place, recruiting and the fanbase will return very quickly. The black mark will always been there, without a doubt, but folks will move on.

Based on all of the reports coming out today, it sounds like Paterno will at longest last until the bowl game. Considering this is PSU's last home game, if they lose especially, this might be his last game this week and Bradley takes over for the rest of the season. I still want the end of this season to be a success, hard to say if their best chance at that would be to keep Paterno around so the team can use it to rally around, or get him out of there so all of the off field issues dont take focus away from the games and preparation.Hearing the news of PSU trustees setting up Paterno's exit for within weeks or perhaps days, I think the trustess and super wealthy alumni will really throw a lot of money at the next coach (hopefully Meyer) to put this scandal in the past as quick as possible by winning.

 

[Parrothead]

Why wouldn't the great players go to Pitt or a top out-of-state school rather than going to Creepy Valley? I don't think this will be that easy to turn around.

Does anyone believe that this is a deeply embedded institutional problem at Penn State? Maybe you're right and there are a lot of dumb people who do. I don't think this stuff sticks to institutions as tightly as the media hyperventilators would have us believe.

I think for the foreseeable future, people will associate Penn State football with child molestation. If I'm a high school senior being recruited by multiple schools, that's enough to send me elsewhere.

Really? Its not like the entire coaching staff were running a train on little boys. 1 sick person was, and someone who hasnt even been coaching for them for over a decade. Once Paterno is gone and the trial is over, I dont see this scandal as something that makes recruits go elsewhere. PSU will always have a great town in State College, Beaver stadium, and smoking hot coeds.

I think you're right. But, the new regime has to take over sooner, rather than later. They can't #####foot around getting Paterno out. He's got to go ASAP. Regardless of whether you think he did the right thing or not, his name is now superglued to this incident. The slate needs to be wiped clean immediately of anyone with any knowledge or any involvement of this horrible episode.I think once that's done and there's a new coaching staff, AD, and university president in place, recruiting and the fanbase will return very quickly. The black mark will always been there, without a doubt, but folks will move on.

Based on all of the reports coming out today, it sounds like Paterno will at longest last until the bowl game. Considering this is PSU's last home game, if they lose especially, this might be his last game this week and Bradley takes over for the rest of the season. I still want the end of this season to be a success, hard to say if their best chance at that would be to keep Paterno around so the team can use it to rally around, or get him out of there so all of the off field issues dont take focus away from the games and preparation.Hearing the news of PSU trustees setting up Paterno's exit for within weeks or perhaps days, I think the trustess and super wealthy alumni will really throw a lot of money at the next coach (hopefully Meyer) to put this scandal in the past as quick as possible by winning.

you are assuming:1. A bowl will actually invite PSU

2. Alumni and fans will actually pay to go to a bowl

 

[Major]

I just wish this had come out a few weeks ago so I could have had an awesome Halloween costume

 

[Kenny Powers]

Why wouldn't the great players go to Pitt or a top out-of-state school rather than going to Creepy Valley? I don't think this will be that easy to turn around.

Does anyone believe that this is a deeply embedded institutional problem at Penn State? Maybe you're right and there are a lot of dumb people who do. I don't think this stuff sticks to institutions as tightly as the media hyperventilators would have us believe.

I think for the foreseeable future, people will associate Penn State football with child molestation. If I'm a high school senior being recruited by multiple schools, that's enough to send me elsewhere.

Really? Its not like the entire coaching staff were running a train on little boys. 1 sick person was, and someone who hasnt even been coaching for them for over a decade. Once Paterno is gone and the trial is over, I dont see this scandal as something that makes recruits go elsewhere. PSU will always have a great town in State College, Beaver stadium, and smoking hot coeds.

I think you're right. But, the new regime has to take over sooner, rather than later. They can't #####foot around getting Paterno out. He's got to go ASAP. Regardless of whether you think he did the right thing or not, his name is now superglued to this incident. The slate needs to be wiped clean immediately of anyone with any knowledge or any involvement of this horrible episode.I think once that's done and there's a new coaching staff, AD, and university president in place, recruiting and the fanbase will return very quickly. The black mark will always been there, without a doubt, but folks will move on.

Based on all of the reports coming out today, it sounds like Paterno will at longest last until the bowl game. Considering this is PSU's last home game, if they lose especially, this might be his last game this week and Bradley takes over for the rest of the season. I still want the end of this season to be a success, hard to say if their best chance at that would be to keep Paterno around so the team can use it to rally around, or get him out of there so all of the off field issues dont take focus away from the games and preparation.Hearing the news of PSU trustees setting up Paterno's exit for within weeks or perhaps days, I think the trustess and super wealthy alumni will really throw a lot of money at the next coach (hopefully Meyer) to put this scandal in the past as quick as possible by winning.

you are assuming:1. A bowl will actually invite PSU

2. Alumni and fans will actually pay to go to a bowl

I was assuming that will be their last game this season. If Wisconsin or the B10CG is their last game, then at longest Paterno will be around for that game. Either way, its looking more likely that he's gone sooner rather than later.Even if PSU loses their next 3 games and end up 8-4, Id be shocked if they arent playing in some bowl game. If they win the B10, theyd automatically be in the Rose Bowl.

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

Why wouldn't the great players go to Pitt or a top out-of-state school rather than going to Creepy Valley? I don't think this will be that easy to turn around.

Does anyone believe that this is a deeply embedded institutional problem at Penn State? Maybe you're right and there are a lot of dumb people who do. I don't think this stuff sticks to institutions as tightly as the media hyperventilators would have us believe.

I think for the foreseeable future, people will associate Penn State football with child molestation. If I'm a high school senior being recruited by multiple schools, that's enough to send me elsewhere.

Really? Its not like the entire coaching staff were running a train on little boys. 1 sick person was, and someone who hasnt even been coaching for them for over a decade. Once Paterno is gone and the trial is over, I dont see this scandal as something that makes recruits go elsewhere. PSU will always have a great town in State College, Beaver stadium, and smoking hot coeds.

I think you're right. But, the new regime has to take over sooner, rather than later. They can't #####foot around getting Paterno out. He's got to go ASAP. Regardless of whether you think he did the right thing or not, his name is now superglued to this incident. The slate needs to be wiped clean immediately of anyone with any knowledge or any involvement of this horrible episode.I think once that's done and there's a new coaching staff, AD, and university president in place, recruiting and the fanbase will return very quickly. The black mark will always been there, without a doubt, but folks will move on.

Based on all of the reports coming out today, it sounds like Paterno will at longest last until the bowl game. Considering this is PSU's last home game, if they lose especially, this might be his last game this week and Bradley takes over for the rest of the season. I still want the end of this season to be a success, hard to say if their best chance at that would be to keep Paterno around so the team can use it to rally around, or get him out of there so all of the off field issues dont take focus away from the games and preparation.Hearing the news of PSU trustees setting up Paterno's exit for within weeks or perhaps days, I think the trustess and super wealthy alumni will really throw a lot of money at the next coach (hopefully Meyer) to put this scandal in the past as quick as possible by winning.

you are assuming:1. A bowl will actually invite PSU

2. Alumni and fans will actually pay to go to a bowl

I think they will. But again, PSU has to clean up their act before then. This is an obvious point, but the sooner they start cleaning house, the sooner fans and bowl committees are going to start warming back up to them. In all honesty, I'm still leaning towards being a Paterno sympathizer right now, although not as much as I was yesterday. But, like I said before, he's got to go if the university has any hope of starting in the direction of clearing their name. They messed up the first time (I know, understatement of the year). They have to get it right this time.

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

All reports are indicating that Joe is retiring at the end of the season. So, how does Penn State proceed with the hiring/announcement of a new coach? Do they wait until after the season? I can't imagine they do. The attempt to recruit has got to start now. Do they wait until some of this scandal blows over? That could take forever.

I'm wondering that other people think. I think they have to move swiftly, but I also think that Spanier's replacement has to be announced first. They need to show that they're repairing the university before they show that they're repairing the football program.

 

[Bogeys]

All reports are indicating that Joe is retiring at the end of the season. So, how does Penn State proceed with the hiring/announcement of a new coach? Do they wait until after the season? I can't imagine they do. The attempt to recruit has got to start now. Do they wait until some of this scandal blows over? That could take forever.I'm wondering that other people think. I think they have to move swiftly, but I also think that Spanier's replacement has to be announced first. They need to show that they're repairing the university before they show that they're repairing the football program.

Can PSU even find an established big name coach to take the position? 1 strike is following a legend (that rarely turns out well), then trying to recruit with the circus going on. I realize it is a prized job and will have no lack of HC's wanting the job, I just question if any of the big names will accept.

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

All reports are indicating that Joe is retiring at the end of the season. So, how does Penn State proceed with the hiring/announcement of a new coach? Do they wait until after the season? I can't imagine they do. The attempt to recruit has got to start now. Do they wait until some of this scandal blows over? That could take forever.I'm wondering that other people think. I think they have to move swiftly, but I also think that Spanier's replacement has to be announced first. They need to show that they're repairing the university before they show that they're repairing the football program.

Can PSU even find an established big name coach to take the position? 1 strike is following a legend (that rarely turns out well), then trying to recruit with the circus going on. I realize it is a prized job and will have no lack of HC's wanting the job, I just question if any of the big names will accept.

I think they'll be able to. Once the university cleans up the mess in the administration, I believe this episode will begin to simmer down relatively quickly. And by "quickly", I mean a handful of years, not decades. And by "simmer down", I mean that the fanbase and support of the team will return. The memories of what occurred at Penn State will linger for a long, long time.I think there's too much tradition with the Penn State football program for someone to pass it up, all together. At least, that's what I hope.

 

[itriple]

If this happened to my school, I swear I would burn every article of clothing of them and turn in my season tickets.

It was a horrible act, but the cover up just makes my blood boil.

 

[Tom Servo]

Why wouldn't the great players go to Pitt or a top out-of-state school rather than going to Creepy Valley? I don't think this will be that easy to turn around.

Does anyone believe that this is a deeply embedded institutional problem at Penn State? Maybe you're right and there are a lot of dumb people who do. I don't think this stuff sticks to institutions as tightly as the media hyperventilators would have us believe.

I think for the foreseeable future, people will associate Penn State football with child molestation. If I'm a high school senior being recruited by multiple schools, that's enough to send me elsewhere.

Really? Its not like the entire coaching staff were running a train on little boys. 1 sick person was, and someone who hasnt even been coaching for them for over a decade. Once Paterno is gone and the trial is over, I dont see this scandal as something that makes recruits go elsewhere. PSU will always have a great town in State College, Beaver stadium, and smoking hot coeds.

Some of this... Here's the other thing. Didn't Baylor's basketball program have a murder associated with it like 10 or so years ago? The trial was held, etc. and now nobody talks about that anymore. I'm not saying PSU football = Baylor basketball, but is there a point years from now when it will be largely forgotten? I would say yes. How long? Don't know.

 

[Bogeys]

All reports are indicating that Joe is retiring at the end of the season. So, how does Penn State proceed with the hiring/announcement of a new coach? Do they wait until after the season? I can't imagine they do. The attempt to recruit has got to start now. Do they wait until some of this scandal blows over? That could take forever.I'm wondering that other people think. I think they have to move swiftly, but I also think that Spanier's replacement has to be announced first. They need to show that they're repairing the university before they show that they're repairing the football program.

Can PSU even find an established big name coach to take the position? 1 strike is following a legend (that rarely turns out well), then trying to recruit with the circus going on. I realize it is a prized job and will have no lack of HC's wanting the job, I just question if any of the big names will accept.

I think they'll be able to. Once the university cleans up the mess in the administration, I believe this episode will begin to simmer down relatively quickly. And by "quickly", I mean a handful of years, not decades. And by "simmer down", I mean that the fanbase and support of the team will return. The memories of what occurred at Penn State will linger for a long, long time.I think there's too much tradition with the Penn State football program for someone to pass it up, all together. At least, that's what I hope.

I think it will last longer than that, just my opinion though. This isn't the typical recruiting violation and that will generally last years depending on the scale and this situation is magnitudes worse.I think they will find someone, but it will be one of those young guys that just want their name out there from a D2 or D3 school. Just don't see any big name coach, that 1 week ago would have jumped at the chance, taking this job now.

 

[Tom Servo]

you are assuming:

1. A bowl will actually invite PSU

2. Alumni and fans will actually pay to go to a bowl

1. It will happen. Even at 8-4, the B1G has tie ins to various bowls. San Antonio will gladly take them for the Alamo Bowl, or whatever one they would ordinarily deserve.2. Not an issue. PSU has one of the largest fanbases around and travels well. Those 5% who won't go based on this will have another 15% ready to buy those ducats. Book it.

 

[Tom Servo]

I think it will last longer than that, just my opinion though. This isn't the typical recruiting violation and that will generally last years depending on the scale and this situation is magnitudes worse.I think they will find someone, but it will be one of those young guys that just want their name out there from a D2 or D3 school. Just don't see any big name coach, that 1 week ago would have jumped at the chance, taking this job now.

That may be. I have no guess here as this is uncharted territory. See my post above about Baylor basketball.And at a D2 or D3 coach getting that job. Not. Gonna. Happen. It'll be a D-1 HC or coordinator from somewhere.

 

[whoknew]

I think it will last longer than that, just my opinion though. This isn't the typical recruiting violation and that will generally last years depending on the scale and this situation is magnitudes worse.I think they will find someone, but it will be one of those young guys that just want their name out there from a D2 or D3 school. Just don't see any big name coach, that 1 week ago would have jumped at the chance, taking this job now.

That may be. I have no guess here as this is uncharted territory. See my post above about Baylor basketball.And at a D2 or D3 coach getting that job. Not. Gonna. Happen. It'll be a D-1 HC or coordinator from somewhere.

Tressel was a D2 coach when he got the OSU job.

 

[Tom Servo]

I think it will last longer than that, just my opinion though. This isn't the typical recruiting violation and that will generally last years depending on the scale and this situation is magnitudes worse.I think they will find someone, but it will be one of those young guys that just want their name out there from a D2 or D3 school. Just don't see any big name coach, that 1 week ago would have jumped at the chance, taking this job now.

That may be. I have no guess here as this is uncharted territory. See my post above about Baylor basketball.And at a D2 or D3 coach getting that job. Not. Gonna. Happen. It'll be a D-1 HC or coordinator from somewhere.

Tressel was a D2 coach when he got the OSU job.

Youngstown State is 1-AA.

 

[Bogeys]

I think it will last longer than that, just my opinion though. This isn't the typical recruiting violation and that will generally last years depending on the scale and this situation is magnitudes worse.I think they will find someone, but it will be one of those young guys that just want their name out there from a D2 or D3 school. Just don't see any big name coach, that 1 week ago would have jumped at the chance, taking this job now.

That may be. I have no guess here as this is uncharted territory. See my post above about Baylor basketball.And at a D2 or D3 coach getting that job. Not. Gonna. Happen. It'll be a D-1 HC or coordinator from somewhere.

The D2 or D3 was basically saying an up and comer/hot young coach...there are always 1 or 2 every year that land a job at a mid-tier university after elevating a smaller program. Normally these types of coaches would only ever sniff an assistant job at PSU, but I think it is a possibility that this is the road they will have to take. I just don't really see any coach that already has a good name in college football circles wanting into what will be a circus for years. I have been wrong before though, so who knows.

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

If this happened to my school, I swear I would burn every article of clothing of them and turn in my season tickets. It was a horrible act, but the cover up just makes my blood boil.

There's a whole thread for you to discuss this stuff somewhere on this board. Check the first page, I think it might be there.

 

[E-Z Glider]

All reports are indicating that Joe is retiring at the end of the season. So, how does Penn State proceed with the hiring/announcement of a new coach? Do they wait until after the season? I can't imagine they do. The attempt to recruit has got to start now. Do they wait until some of this scandal blows over? That could take forever.I'm wondering that other people think. I think they have to move swiftly, but I also think that Spanier's replacement has to be announced first. They need to show that they're repairing the university before they show that they're repairing the football program.

Can PSU even find an established big name coach to take the position? 1 strike is following a legend (that rarely turns out well), then trying to recruit with the circus going on. I realize it is a prized job and will have no lack of HC's wanting the job, I just question if any of the big names will accept.

Depends on your definition of "big name". Before scandal, I think they had a good shot at Urban Meyer. Some "insider guy" on Phillies board is insinuating that they already have someone in place and its just a matter of whether they can keep him on board. Hinting that its Al Golden.

 

[Osaurus]

you are assuming:

1. A bowl will actually invite PSU

2. Alumni and fans will actually pay to go to a bowl

1. It will happen. Even at 8-4, the B1G has tie ins to various bowls. San Antonio will gladly take them for the Alamo Bowl, or whatever one they would ordinarily deserve.2. Not an issue. PSU has one of the largest fanbases around and travels well. Those 5% who won't go based on this will have another 15% ready to buy those ducats. Book it.

I would guess Outback Bowl.

 

[whoknew]

you are assuming:

1. A bowl will actually invite PSU

2. Alumni and fans will actually pay to go to a bowl

1. It will happen. Even at 8-4, the B1G has tie ins to various bowls. San Antonio will gladly take them for the Alamo Bowl, or whatever one they would ordinarily deserve.2. Not an issue. PSU has one of the largest fanbases around and travels well. Those 5% who won't go based on this will have another 15% ready to buy those ducats. Book it.

I would guess Outback Bowl.

I wonder. If you are an Outback Bowl rep - would you rather have a 10-3 PSU or a 9-3 or 8-4 Michigan, for example.I think - assuming you have a decent alternative - you stay clear of Penn State this year. Why bring on that headache?

 

[Kenny Powers]

If this happened to my school, I swear I would burn every article of clothing of them and turn in my season tickets. It was a horrible act, but the cover up just makes my blood boil.

There's a whole thread for you to discuss this stuff somewhere on this board. Check the first page, I think it might be there.

I went back in that thread yesterday after not reading it since saturday. Started again this morning for an hour or so, until I realized its just a waste of time seeing almost every post being guys talking about their moral high ground and calling for Paterno's head. Im done with that thread until "new" news comes out about the situation.

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

If this happened to my school, I swear I would burn every article of clothing of them and turn in my season tickets. It was a horrible act, but the cover up just makes my blood boil.

There's a whole thread for you to discuss this stuff somewhere on this board. Check the first page, I think it might be there.

I went back in that thread yesterday after not reading it since saturday. Started again this morning for an hour or so, until I realized its just a waste of time seeing almost every post being guys talking about their moral high ground and calling for Paterno's head. Im done with that thread until "new" news comes out about the situation.

Its like crack, I can't stay away and I don't know why. Its like a trainwreck.

 

[E-Z Glider]

Good read on Scrap

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

Good read on Scrap

Good read. For lack of a better term, and all the other news aside, I'm excited to see how the team plays under Bradley. I've always liked him and thought he'd be a great head coach.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Good read on Scrap

Good read. For lack of a better term, and all the other news aside, I'm excited to see how the team plays under Bradley. I've always liked him and thought he'd be a great head coach.

I think its going to be difficult at this point to get Meyer, so assuming the team doesnt totally fall apart the next 3 games, Im not so sure a Golden, Schiano, Ferentz would really be an upgrade over him.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Tough loss, they showed a lot of heart with the comeback though. If McGroin only kind of sucked instead of totally sucked, we probably wouldve won.

At least tOSU lost as well. Thanks to that, all we have to do to win our division is beat Wisky (easier said than done).

 

[ConstruxBoy]

yeah, he is just terrible. But Bolden is worse. I know there is a huge question mark for what happens here next year and I'm sure recruits and parents are concerned. But honestly any decent high school senior QB could come in here next year and start.

 

[Getinthemix]

Does Jay Paterno still live at with his parents?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Does Jay Paterno still live at with his parents?

Thought he was married with a couple of kids.

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

Does Jay Paterno still live at with his parents?

Are you referring to him being seen leaving their house Saturday morning? It was reported that he had stopped by to give his father a note prior to the game.And McGloin....Oh my god, McGloin. I don't understand how PSU can have two quarterbacks, and neither one can throw the ball. It was evident that the coaching staff had no faith in McGloin with 6:00 left in the game, down by two scores, and running the ball when they are averaging 3-4 yards per carry up until that point, and their main back injured.The team entrance and the prayer at the beginning of the game were touching. I just wish they had an offense to support the outstanding defense. I do look for PSU to beat OSU next week.

 

[Tom Servo]

you are assuming:

1. A bowl will actually invite PSU

2. Alumni and fans will actually pay to go to a bowl

1. It will happen. Even at 8-4, the B1G has tie ins to various bowls. San Antonio will gladly take them for the Alamo Bowl, or whatever one they would ordinarily deserve.2. Not an issue. PSU has one of the largest fanbases around and travels well. Those 5% who won't go based on this will have another 15% ready to buy those ducats. Book it.

I would guess Outback Bowl.

I wonder. If you are an Outback Bowl rep - would you rather have a 10-3 PSU or a 9-3 or 8-4 Michigan, for example.I think - assuming you have a decent alternative - you stay clear of Penn State this year. Why bring on that headache?

What headache? The coach that did it is long gone and the coach everyone demanded be fired is gone as well.Besides, there's a clearly defined list of what teams are selected. If PSU fits the criteria, they must be invited. It's up to the folks at Old Main to decline if they wish.

The Big Ten Conference has eight bowl tie-ins.[4]

[*]#1 Bowl Championship Series. As of the 2011 season, the winner of the Big Ten Championship Game gains an automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Rose Bowl.

[*]#2 The Capital One Bowl receives the second choice from the Big Ten, but must choose from remaining teams with the best overall record, or within one win of the best overall record. Starting in 2011, it may choose to take the runner up of the Big Ten Championship Game should its record be better than the league champion.

[*]#3 The Outback Bowl receives the third choice of Big Ten teams.

[*]#4 The Gator Bowl receives the fourth choice of Big Ten teams.

[*]#5 The Insight Bowl receives the fifth choice of Big Ten teams

[*]#6 The Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas receives the sixth choice of Big Ten teams.

[*]#7 The TicketCity Bowl receives the seventh choice from the Big Ten.

[*]#8 The Little Caesar's Pizza Bowl will take the eighth choice from the Big Ten; if no remaining teams are available, the bowl will choose a Sun Belt team.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I forgot how much Rob Bolden sucked

Cant believe Case Keenum is only the 11th ranked QB for the draft. I dont see how he isnt around 5th or so.

 

[mr. furley]

PSU needs to resume recruiting quarterbacks. they're kind of important.

 

[mr. furley]

I forgot how much Rob Bolden suckedCant believe Case Keenum is only the 11th ranked QB for the draft. I dont see how he isnt around 5th or so.

anti Klingler/Ware bias?

 

[joffer]

PSU needs to resume recruiting quarterbacks. they're kind of important.

they just never focused on recruiting or developing them. hopefully that'll changeBolden shouldn't be a starter anywhere in college football

 

[Parrothead]

Hopefully the next coach will cut Bolden.. he's just never going to be a good QB.. McGloin isn't a superstar, but he can at least make the easy throws..

 

[Kenny Powers]

Hopefully the next coach will cut Bolden.. he's just never going to be a good QB.. McGloin isn't a superstar, but he can at least make the easy throws..

I wanted Paul Jones to start going back to the blue-white game 2 years ago. I dont see how he couldve possibly been worse than Bolden or McGroin

 

[Trey]

Hopefully the next coach will cut Bolden.. he's just never going to be a good QB.. McGloin isn't a superstar, but he can at least make the easy throws..

I wanted Paul Jones to start going back to the blue-white game 2 years ago. I dont see how he couldve possibly been worse than Bolden or McGroin

He is apparently illiterate and/or stupid.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Hopefully the next coach will cut Bolden.. he's just never going to be a good QB.. McGloin isn't a superstar, but he can at least make the easy throws..

I wanted Paul Jones to start going back to the blue-white game 2 years ago. I dont see how he couldve possibly been worse than Bolden or McGroin

He is apparently illiterate and/or stupid.

Arent most good college QBs?

 

[gcoast3]

Jay Paterno's next job will be working for Obama...

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

PSU needs to resume recruiting quarterbacks. they're kind of important.

they just never focused on recruiting or developing them. hopefully that'll changeBolden shouldn't be a starter anywhere in college football

Bolden was a highly recruited QB. The problem has been coaching. Jay doesn't know anything about QB coaching. He is truly terrible when it comes to teaching the technical aspects of the position. Jay has made Bolden worse the more he has worked with him. His footwork his beyond terrible.

 

[Trey]

Hopefully the next coach will cut Bolden.. he's just never going to be a good QB.. McGloin isn't a superstar, but he can at least make the easy throws..

I wanted Paul Jones to start going back to the blue-white game 2 years ago. I dont see how he couldve possibly been worse than Bolden or McGroin

He is apparently illiterate and/or stupid.

Arent most good college QBs?

Good point. But you at least need to have passing grades on paper in order to see the field.

 

[mr. furley]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7430206/bill-obrien-agrees-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-sources-say

New England Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien has agreed to become the coach at Penn State, according to sources.

The Nittany Lions plan to make the move official with an announcement Saturday, the sources said.

Terms of the deal are unknown.

O'Brien will continue to serve as the Patriots' offensive coordinator for the rest of the season, a league source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

O'Brien interviewed with Penn State on Thursday, his agent, Joe Linta, told The Associated Press.

In his first year coordinating the Patriots' high-scoring offense, O'Brien has also coached star quarterback Tom Brady since 2009. He spent 2008 coaching receivers.

O'Brien first joined New England in 2007 following 14 seasons on the collegiate level, including stops at Duke, Maryland and Georgia Tech. He played college football at Brown -- Joe Paterno's alma mater.

Paterno was fired two months ago in the aftermath of child sex abuse charges against retired defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky. Paterno, Division I's winningest coach with 409 victories, coached 46 seasons before trustees ousted him Nov. 9.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Not sure how much I like this. No NE coordinator has succeeded as a head coach, college and pro, after leaving the Patsies. Plus he's never been a HC before. Supposedly he's a decent recruiter so I like that, but the only other positive I see is that he's been Brady's QB coach/OC for 3 years and maybe PSU can finally get JayPa out of there and we can start developing QBs.

 

[E-Z Glider]

Great interview with Bill O'Brien on Mike and Mike this morning. What a great hire this guy was.

Listen here

Highlights:

* kids want to stick together

* had parent's conference call last night (parents are supportive)

* strong bond

* golic asked about other schools calling to take players. some coaches have called recruits w/o having the courtesy to call him first. named some who have called him.

* what he tells kids who may want to leave? penn state degree is incredibly valuable. 600K+ alums. 108,000 fans every home game- what bowl gets that? unless you're in championship game, no bowl is better than playing in front of 108K people. what about the teammates you've formed bonds with? NFL doesn't care about bowl games. it cares about how you play on field and his staff has coaches who have NFL ties.

* might play university of hawaii (or something like that) as last game as a bowl of sorts.

* want to get awesome PA kids to come in as walk-ons since they'd get in-state tuition.

 

[Tom Servo]

Anybody want to hazard a guess as to whether Silas Redd bails for USC?