Let's talk some Troy Smith (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

With the signing of Bulger Troy Smith will probably get traded. Some good landing spots would be Arizona, Buffalo, Cleveland, and Seattle. Some other teams as well could use another QB.

He's a good athlete who could develop into a good pocket passer. Smith has shown good touch on underneath passing routes and has adequate arm strength. He doesn't have ideal heigt at 6'0. His mechanics need work and he's wasn't that accurate down field if memory serves. Still, he has potential IMO and I hope he lands in a good spot.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I've always liked Troy Smith's game. He is an overacheiver. Scrappy lil guy that finds a way to move the chains. I would add the Raiders to that list you made up. Remember Hue Jackson, Ravens last QB coach is the new OC in Oakland. I like him better than Boller.

Doubt anyone would offer more than a 6th rounder for him though, and I think he ends picked up off of waivers.

I'd love the Raiders to try him out, if it's free.

 

[Couch Potato]

He was just a 5th round pick in 2007, and outside of a couple starts late in his rookie year hasn't had much chance to show he was under-drafted. All 32 teams at the time saw him as backup material. Now BAL has essentially said they'd rather have a washed up Bulger than Smith.

For someone to trade for him and give him a legit chance to start this year, after OTAs are over and a lot of the offenses have been implemented, would show more faith than they showed in him 3 years ago. The teams you mentioned might give him a shot to compete to start I suppose, but he'd be facing very long odds to win the job, and even longer odds to be more than a stopgap even if he did win the job. Not someone I'd be interested in for fantasy, even with 30-man rosters.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

With the signing of Bulger Troy Smith will probably get traded. Some good landing spots would be Arizona, Buffalo, Cleveland, and Seattle. Some other teams as well could use another QB.He's a good athlete who could develop into a good pocket passer. Smith has shown good touch on underneath passing routes and has adequate arm strength. He doesn't have ideal heigt at 6'0. His mechanics need work and he's wasn't that accurate down field if memory serves. Still, he has potential IMO and I hope he lands in a good spot.

He threw a nice deep ball at Ohio State, but I can't speak for his play at the NFL level. Smith is already a decent pocket passer. He's never shook that running QB label, but I think people should go back and take a look at his progression at Ohio State. Smith rarely tucked it and ran by the time he was a Senior at Ohio State. Tressel put Smith under center and from the spread. Smith went through his progressions and threw the ball. He definitely has the arm strength to be successful. 6'0 is generous... more like 5'10"-5'11", which was a big reason why Smith was not a 1st day pick. IIRC, Smith was demanding that Baltimore trade him, so maybe he's in the doghouse?

 

[Matt Waldman]

He was just a 5th round pick in 2007, and outside of a couple starts late in his rookie year hasn't had much chance to show he was under-drafted. All 32 teams at the time saw him as backup material. Now BAL has essentially said they'd rather have a washed up Bulger than Smith. For someone to trade for him and give him a legit chance to start this year, after OTAs are over and a lot of the offenses have been implemented, would show more faith than they showed in him 3 years ago. The teams you mentioned might give him a shot to compete to start I suppose, but he'd be facing very long odds to win the job, and even longer odds to be more than a stopgap even if he did win the job. Not someone I'd be interested in for fantasy, even with 30-man rosters.

CP - I like your views on stuff I read here, but I would argue the Ravens essentially said they'd rather have a veteran QB with proven capabilities to read pro defenses due to several years of successful starts so they can compete in the playoffs if Flacco got hurt rather than rely on a young, unproven player without a season's worth of starts as their No.2 QB. Smith is definitely an end of the bench player for a fantasy roster at best, but depending where he could land, he's worth some speculation.

 

[Couch Potato]

He was just a 5th round pick in 2007, and outside of a couple starts late in his rookie year hasn't had much chance to show he was under-drafted. All 32 teams at the time saw him as backup material. Now BAL has essentially said they'd rather have a washed up Bulger than Smith. For someone to trade for him and give him a legit chance to start this year, after OTAs are over and a lot of the offenses have been implemented, would show more faith than they showed in him 3 years ago. The teams you mentioned might give him a shot to compete to start I suppose, but he'd be facing very long odds to win the job, and even longer odds to be more than a stopgap even if he did win the job. Not someone I'd be interested in for fantasy, even with 30-man rosters.

CP - I like your views on stuff I read here, but I would argue the Ravens essentially said they'd rather have a veteran QB with proven capabilities to read pro defenses due to several years of successful starts so they can compete in the playoffs if Flacco got hurt rather than rely on a young, unproven player without a season's worth of starts as their No.2 QB. Smith is definitely an end of the bench player for a fantasy roster at best, but depending where he could land, he's worth some speculation.

I was a little rough on poor ol' Bulger there, and by association, Smith. But consider: Bulger has been pretty horrible the last few years, and Smith is entering his FOURTH season in the NFL. I still say it's a pretty strong indictment of Smith that Baltimore would seek out someone like Bulger for a scenario such as the one you describe. It doesn't give me much confidence in Smith.

 

[baconisgood]

With the signing of Bulger Troy Smith will probably get traded. Some good landing spots would be Arizona, Buffalo, Cleveland, and Seattle. Some other teams as well could use another QB.He's a good athlete who could develop into a good pocket passer. Smith has shown good touch on underneath passing routes and has adequate arm strength. He doesn't have ideal heigt at 6'0. His mechanics need work and he's wasn't that accurate down field if memory serves. Still, he has potential IMO and I hope he lands in a good spot.

Cleveland is out- they have Delhomme getting starters money- he won't be going anywhere until he has ####ed up his first 5 starts or so, McCoy is a 3rd rounder and gets a roster spot and Holmgren traded for his man crush Seneca to be the #2- is there any chance he is bringing in TS? Not unless he has a secret mancrush on him as well.

 

[kurtrudder]

He was just a 5th round pick in 2007, and outside of a couple starts late in his rookie year hasn't had much chance to show he was under-drafted. All 32 teams at the time saw him as backup material. Now BAL has essentially said they'd rather have a washed up Bulger than Smith. For someone to trade for him and give him a legit chance to start this year, after OTAs are over and a lot of the offenses have been implemented, would show more faith than they showed in him 3 years ago. The teams you mentioned might give him a shot to compete to start I suppose, but he'd be facing very long odds to win the job, and even longer odds to be more than a stopgap even if he did win the job. Not someone I'd be interested in for fantasy, even with 30-man rosters.

CP - I like your views on stuff I read here, but I would argue the Ravens essentially said they'd rather have a veteran QB with proven capabilities to read pro defenses due to several years of successful starts so they can compete in the playoffs if Flacco got hurt rather than rely on a young, unproven player without a season's worth of starts as their No.2 QB. Smith is definitely an end of the bench player for a fantasy roster at best, but depending where he could land, he's worth some speculation.

You took the words out of my mouth Matt. The Ravens are in a championship window so a proven/vet QB that doesn't make a lot of mistakes and would successfully manage the game if Flacco went down is just what the needed and got in Bulger. It makes no sense to the Ravens to put a title run in jeopardy by having unproven options at QB2 & 3. I don't think this is a slight on Troy Smith at all. It's most likely Smith is the one on the chopping block because Cam Cameron most likely still has a love affair going with John Beck. I think Smith makes for a very interesting stash in dynasty leagues and no doubt his value will get an immediate bump if/when he moves on from the Ravens.

 

[Truman]

The Ravens are always in a championship window. Why do we think Troy Smith gets traded here? He just signed an extension as well a month or so ago. I don't think they did that to trade him. If the Ravens wanted to get rid of him they could have done that and gone with John Beck as a backup.

Smith likely has very little trade value, this talk seems to be speculation more than anything.

 

[TheWheel]

Eagles should get him.

 

[Matt Waldman]

He was just a 5th round pick in 2007, and outside of a couple starts late in his rookie year hasn't had much chance to show he was under-drafted. All 32 teams at the time saw him as backup material. Now BAL has essentially said they'd rather have a washed up Bulger than Smith. For someone to trade for him and give him a legit chance to start this year, after OTAs are over and a lot of the offenses have been implemented, would show more faith than they showed in him 3 years ago. The teams you mentioned might give him a shot to compete to start I suppose, but he'd be facing very long odds to win the job, and even longer odds to be more than a stopgap even if he did win the job. Not someone I'd be interested in for fantasy, even with 30-man rosters.

CP - I like your views on stuff I read here, but I would argue the Ravens essentially said they'd rather have a veteran QB with proven capabilities to read pro defenses due to several years of successful starts so they can compete in the playoffs if Flacco got hurt rather than rely on a young, unproven player without a season's worth of starts as their No.2 QB. Smith is definitely an end of the bench player for a fantasy roster at best, but depending where he could land, he's worth some speculation.

I was a little rough on poor ol' Bulger there, and by association, Smith. But consider: Bulger has been pretty horrible the last few years, and Smith is entering his FOURTH season in the NFL. I still say it's a pretty strong indictment of Smith that Baltimore would seek out someone like Bulger for a scenario such as the one you describe. It doesn't give me much confidence in Smith.

It's a good point. Even your first point was a good one, I was just offering an alternate view. I would still offer an alternate view here. While I think it's true that Smith hasn't done anything for four seasons, the Ravens were more comfortable with the idea of starting him over Flacco in Flacco's rookie year but Smith had an emergency appendectomy. Flacco has played well enough that Smith hasn't gotten a chance. Matt Schaub essentially went three seasons without a chance. His one opportunity during this stint was a nice game against the Patriots that caught the attention of other teams. Smith hasn't had the opportunity to sub for Flacco to show whether he can or can't do it. I think the situation is a unique one because the Ravens didn't want to trade Smith in the offseason without getting a quality veteran QB to suit their needs first. A veteran who doesn't require a starting gig with his new team. If I were a playoff caliber team, I would prefer to have a player like Bulger, who was one of the top passers in the league before the Rams line became a bunch of a lambs and his receivers got older. So I think indicting Bulger's play during this span and using this period of time to compare it to Smith's talent might be premature. You could be right, but I think the Ravens took Bulger for his experience and what their surrounding talent offers as a replacement option to a Troy Smith who they probably want to grant the trade he's asked for all offseason but couldn't grant until they got someone to put ahead of John Beck. I think Beck is the more appropriate target of what you said about Smith.

 

[Matt Waldman]

He was just a 5th round pick in 2007, and outside of a couple starts late in his rookie year hasn't had much chance to show he was under-drafted. All 32 teams at the time saw him as backup material. Now BAL has essentially said they'd rather have a washed up Bulger than Smith. For someone to trade for him and give him a legit chance to start this year, after OTAs are over and a lot of the offenses have been implemented, would show more faith than they showed in him 3 years ago. The teams you mentioned might give him a shot to compete to start I suppose, but he'd be facing very long odds to win the job, and even longer odds to be more than a stopgap even if he did win the job. Not someone I'd be interested in for fantasy, even with 30-man rosters.

CP - I like your views on stuff I read here, but I would argue the Ravens essentially said they'd rather have a veteran QB with proven capabilities to read pro defenses due to several years of successful starts so they can compete in the playoffs if Flacco got hurt rather than rely on a young, unproven player without a season's worth of starts as their No.2 QB. Smith is definitely an end of the bench player for a fantasy roster at best, but depending where he could land, he's worth some speculation.

You took the words out of my mouth Matt. The Ravens are in a championship window so a proven/vet QB that doesn't make a lot of mistakes and would successfully manage the game if Flacco went down is just what the needed and got in Bulger. It makes no sense to the Ravens to put a title run in jeopardy by having unproven options at QB2 & 3. I don't think this is a slight on Troy Smith at all. It's most likely Smith is the one on the chopping block because Cam Cameron most likely still has a love affair going with John Beck. I think Smith makes for a very interesting stash in dynasty leagues and no doubt his value will get an immediate bump if/when he moves on from the Ravens.

I think it's more of a Bulger over Beck issue since Smith has wanted to be dealt this off season. The Ravens just needed a quality QB ahead of Beck before they unload Smith. We'll see if this is the case...

 

[Gopher State]

If you can't beat out Bulger your need the end of your career as an NFL quarterback

 

[MAC_32]

IIRC, Troy was the perceived starter before coming down with an untimely illness during camp that basically gave Flacco the job from day 1. He never really did anything to lose the job.

I don't see the Ravens dealing him for any less than they paid for him, I don't see another team paying that much for him, nor do I see the Ravens consider cutting him. Barring injury(s) Smith is stuck, but he isn't someone I'll be forgetting about. Hell, he could be next offseason's Whitehurst if a new GM gets infatuated with him and has a need at QB.

 

[baconisgood]

IIRC, Troy was the perceived starter before coming down with an untimely illness during camp that basically gave Flacco the job from day 1. He never really did anything to lose the job.I don't see the Ravens dealing him for any less than they paid for him, I don't see another team paying that much for him, nor do I see the Ravens consider cutting him. Barring injury(s) Smith is stuck, but he isn't someone I'll be forgetting about. Hell, he could be next offseason's Whitehurst if a new GM gets infatuated with him and has a need at QB.

He was only the perceived starter because Boller was injured- he didn't really do that much to win the job beyond winning the #2 job.