Limas Sweed vs. James Hardy (1 Viewer)

[awesomeness]

Both guys have similar measurables. About 6'5-6'6, 220 lbs, and run a 4.45-4.5 40. Sweed will most likely start off in the slot for his first 2 years while Hardy will start at wideout immediately, although Sweed has a Pro Bowl QB throwing to him while Hardy's QB situation is shaky at best. Who will be the more successful WR in the NFL in FF terms.

 

[MAC_32]

Hardy, by default.

 

[FavreCo]

Sweed strictly because of the QB position. Otherwise it's a toss up.

 

[jurb26]

Sweed. I think he is a better overall player and like his situation more long term.

 

[redman]

Sweed. I think he is a better overall player and like his situation more long term.

I agree regarding situation, but isn't the knock on Sweed (like Manningham, BTW) that he's not tough in going up for balls, which is of course part of the primary job description for a guy his size? A more useful poll, BTW, might be to include Malcolm Kelly, who has similar physical traits and skills to these other two guys, and who is being drafted around the same time in drafts.

 

[jurb26]

Sweed. I think he is a better overall player and like his situation more long term.

I agree regarding situation, but isn't the knock on Sweed (like Manningham, BTW) that he's not tough in going up for balls, which is of course part of the primary job description for a guy his size?

The knock on Sweed is that he doesn't run good routes.

 

[redman]

Sweed. I think he is a better overall player and like his situation more long term.

I agree regarding situation, but isn't the knock on Sweed (like Manningham, BTW) that he's not tough in going up for balls, which is of course part of the primary job description for a guy his size?

The knock on Sweed is that he doesn't run good routes.

I misremembered.

 

[OC Zed]

I vote Hardy simply because by Week 1 he will already be the Bills #1 redzone target. The Bills don't have any other credible redzone threat in the passing game.

 

[jurb26]

I vote Hardy simply because by Week 1 he will already be the Bills #1 redzone target. The Bills don't have any other credible redzone threat in the passing game.

The point is to look beyond just week 1 or even season 1. It is to rank them on overall career. I agree that Hardy will be a better short term option. Sweed is the better play over the course of a career though IMO.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Sweed. I think he is a better overall player and like his situation more long term.

I agree regarding situation, but isn't the knock on Sweed (like Manningham, BTW) that he's not tough in going up for balls, which is of course part of the primary job description for a guy his size?

The knock on Sweed is that he doesn't run good routes.

Like this redman fool knows anything about football.*This is just a sarcastic gotcha snipe at redman for his previous attack on me, nothing more.

 

[BBRULE]

Both will have opportunity to succeed with Hardy maybe given it faster. Sweed is actually a player I wanted the Bills to target, but with him still on the board they decided on Hardy who is bigger, faster, more durable and was more productive in 3 years than Sweed was in 4. Maybe a Homer pick but Hardy seems like the easy choice here imo.

 

[pizzatyme]

Both will have opportunity to succeed with Hardy maybe given it faster. Sweed is actually a player I wanted the Bills to target, but with him still on the board they decided on Hardy who is bigger, faster, more durable and was more productive in 3 years than Sweed was in 4. Maybe a Homer pick but Hardy seems like the easy choice here imo.

Hardy could have a Colstonesque season this year. 78/1055/8

 

[massraider]

I am going to say Sweed. Only because I think Hardy is too big. WRs that size have a tough time getting separation in the NFL.

 

[pizzatyme]

I am going to say Sweed. Only because I think Hardy is too big. WRs that size have a tough time getting separation in the NFL.

Burress 6'5" 226

Hardy 6'5 3/8" 217

Seems to work okay for Burress?!

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Both guys have similar measurables. About 6'5-6'6, 220 lbs, and run a 4.45-4.5 40. Sweed will most likely start off in the slot for his first 2 years while Hardy will start at wideout immediately, although Sweed has a Pro Bowl QB throwing to him while Hardy's QB situation is shaky at best. Who will be the more successful WR in the NFL in FF terms.

Sweed is on my undraft list, Hardy is on my top 5 at wr. Easy Hardy. I need to start getting paid for this stuff. Dodds maybe I'll take you up on your offer, maybe.

 

[massraider]

I am going to say Sweed. Only because I think Hardy is too big. WRs that size have a tough time getting separation in the NFL.

Burress 6'5" 226

Hardy 6'5 3/8" 217

Seems to work okay for Burress?!

It does. And I think Burress is significantly faster than Hardy, and was a better prospect in general. I am nervous about WRs that big. Just as I am worried about RBs that are smaller and bigger than normal.

 

[MAC_32]

Both will have opportunity to succeed with Hardy maybe given it faster. Sweed is actually a player I wanted the Bills to target, but with him still on the board they decided on Hardy who is bigger, faster, more durable and was more productive in 3 years than Sweed was in 4. Maybe a Homer pick but Hardy seems like the easy choice here imo.

Hardy could have a Colstonesque season this year. 78/1055/8

Hello Capt. Optimist.Hardy is very, very raw. He has Plax potential, but he needs a lot of refinement. I could see 8 TD's, but 78 rec? Absolutely not.

 

[Fallerjw]

I am going to say Sweed. Only because I think Hardy is too big. WRs that size have a tough time getting separation in the NFL.

They aren't that much different are they?Sweed

Height: 6'4"

Weight: 212

Hardy

Height: 6'6"

Weight: 220

 

[pizzatyme]

Both will have opportunity to succeed with Hardy maybe given it faster. Sweed is actually a player I wanted the Bills to target, but with him still on the board they decided on Hardy who is bigger, faster, more durable and was more productive in 3 years than Sweed was in 4. Maybe a Homer pick but Hardy seems like the easy choice here imo.

Hardy could have a Colstonesque season this year. 78/1055/8

Hello Capt. Optimist.Hardy is very, very raw. He has Plax potential, but he needs a lot of refinement. I could see 8 TD's, but 78 rec? Absolutely not.

What's not to like? He is walking into the #2 WR role. He has an obvious advantage on the defender. Could he fail? Sure5 catches a game for a big 3rd down WR who is also the perceived Red Zone target doesn't seem too much of a stretch to me.I like the moniker though!

 

[treat88]

How many rookies have had a Colston-like instant impact?

Predicting that kind of season is like predicting the lottery numbers.

And to answer the question, Hardy short term, Sweed long term.

 

[OC Zed]

I vote Hardy simply because by Week 1 he will already be the Bills #1 redzone target. The Bills don't have any other credible redzone threat in the passing game.

The point is to look beyond just week 1 or even season 1. It is to rank them on overall career. I agree that Hardy will be a better short term option. Sweed is the better play over the course of a career though IMO.

If you are projecting their entire careers at this point, it's basically a crap shoot.

 

[pizzatyme]

How many rookies have had a Colston-like instant impact?Predicting that kind of season is like predicting the lottery numbers.And to answer the question, Hardy short term, Sweed long term.

Marques ColstonDwayne BoweBrandon MarshallJames Hardy

 

[pizzatyme]

I am going to say Sweed. Only because I think Hardy is too big. WRs that size have a tough time getting separation in the NFL.

Burress 6'5" 226

Hardy 6'5 3/8" 217

Seems to work okay for Burress?!

It does. And I think Burress is significantly faster than Hardy, and was a better prospect in general. I am nervous about WRs that big. Just as I am worried about RBs that are smaller and bigger than normal.

Hardy ran a 4.47 40 at the Combine. How is Burress "significantly" faster than that? I couldn't find Burress' time at the combine, but I did see where he ran a 4.6 his senior year.

 

[Steel Dillo]

Let me guess... You have the 8th or 9th spot in the draft and you can't make up your mind. If that's the case, I'm stuck in the same situation.

I'm leaning Hardy over Sweed because Sweed runs lazy routes. To me, that's an indication that he either doesn't care enough to be crisp or he is just incapable of making the necessary reads & cuts to run good routes.

Of course I thought the same thing about Burress & he turned out pretty good.

I might bypass both and take Chris Johnson if he's available.

 

[awesomeness]

I am going to say Sweed. Only because I think Hardy is too big. WRs that size have a tough time getting separation in the NFL.

Burress 6'5" 226

Hardy 6'5 3/8" 217

Seems to work okay for Burress?!

It does. And I think Burress is significantly faster than Hardy, and was a better prospect in general. I am nervous about WRs that big. Just as I am worried about RBs that are smaller and bigger than normal.

Thats part of the naturl selection of the position i think. WRs are getting taller and faster. RBs are getting smaller and stockier.

 

[mdog1967]

Sweed. I think he is a better overall player and like his situation more long term.

I agree regarding situation, but isn't the knock on Sweed (like Manningham, BTW) that he's not tough in going up for balls, which is of course part of the primary job description for a guy his size?

The knock on Sweed is that he doesn't run good routes.

Like this redman fool knows anything about football.*This is just a sarcastic gotcha snipe at redman for his previous attack on me, nothing more.

Its alright, its been a cranky off season for a lot of people, I think I remember throwing plenty of sticks your way!!Sweed/Hardy I dont know I kinda like them both for different reasons. I'm gonna go Sweed by a % point, but....

If I have the option I am going to take Earl Bennet In Chicago and hope the QB fairy brings them someone.

 

[awesomeness]

Let me guess... You have the 8th or 9th spot in the draft and you can't make up your mind. If that's the case, I'm stuck in the same situation.I'm leaning Hardy over Sweed because Sweed runs lazy routes. To me, that's an indication that he either doesn't care enough to be crisp or he is just incapable of making the necessary reads & cuts to run good routes.Of course I thought the same thing about Burress & he turned out pretty good. I might bypass both and take Chris Johnson if he's available.

Not really. I dont need any WR help, i was just wondering because i got a pretty firm idea who i think is better, and have been surprised to see the other guy to go ahead of him in many dynasty rookie drafts.

 

[FBGPoker]

There's really nothing Sweed does better then Hardy, i don't see how people are choosing Sweed.

Sweed has slightly better hands, but besides that he's got nothing on Hardy.

This poll should be a blowout but looks like many people over-rate Sweed due to pre-draft internet hype.

Sweed was average at best in college, can't run intermediate routes, and is prone to injury. Good luck with him.

 

[The Man With No Name]

I have been hoping to land Hardy in the first since last fall. Have pick 8 in one league draft coming up soon. He will make a nice addition to Edwards, Fitzgerald, and Marshall among others.

 

[brock]

There's really nothing Sweed does better then Hardy, i don't see how people are choosing Sweed.Sweed has slightly better hands, but besides that he's got nothing on Hardy.This poll should be a blowout but looks like many people over-rate Sweed due to pre-draft internet hype.Sweed was average at best in college, can't run intermediate routes, and is prone to injury. Good luck with him.

sweed is a mediocre wr and got way too much predraft hype.

 

[redman]

Both will have opportunity to succeed with Hardy maybe given it faster. Sweed is actually a player I wanted the Bills to target, but with him still on the board they decided on Hardy who is bigger, faster, more durable and was more productive in 3 years than Sweed was in 4. Maybe a Homer pick but Hardy seems like the easy choice here imo.

Hardy could have a Colstonesque season this year. 78/1055/8

Hello Capt. Optimist.Hardy is very, very raw. He has Plax potential, but he needs a lot of refinement. I could see 8 TD's, but 78 rec? Absolutely not.

What's not to like? He is walking into the #2 WR role. He has an obvious advantage on the defender. Could he fail? Sure5 catches a game for a big 3rd down WR who is also the perceived Red Zone target doesn't seem too much of a stretch to me.I like the moniker though!

What's not to like? How about the fact that Drew Brees plays for New Orleans but not Buffalo for starters? I also like Sean Payton as an OC more than Turk Schonert. Hardy may be very good, but I just don't see him doing what Colston did as a rookie.

 

[jurb26]

Both will have opportunity to succeed with Hardy maybe given it faster. Sweed is actually a player I wanted the Bills to target, but with him still on the board they decided on Hardy who is bigger, faster, more durable and was more productive in 3 years than Sweed was in 4. Maybe a Homer pick but Hardy seems like the easy choice here imo.

Hardy could have a Colstonesque season this year. 78/1055/8

Hello Capt. Optimist.Hardy is very, very raw. He has Plax potential, but he needs a lot of refinement. I could see 8 TD's, but 78 rec? Absolutely not.

What's not to like? He is walking into the #2 WR role. He has an obvious advantage on the defender. Could he fail? Sure5 catches a game for a big 3rd down WR who is also the perceived Red Zone target doesn't seem too much of a stretch to me.I like the moniker though!

What's not to like? How about the fact that Drew Brees plays for New Orleans but not Buffalo for starters? I also like Sean Payton as an OC more than Turk Schonert. Hardy may be very good, but I just don't see him doing what Colston did as a rookie.

NO had the #1 offense in the NFL Colston's rookie year. Buf will be lucky to sniff the top half of the NFL. Hardy hype is way too high.

 

[Lash]

i like hardy longterm

sweed is brittle and has more competition for reps (i think hines will play several more years)

 

[LBH]

I went with Hardy and just took him at 1.10 as the first WR off the board. Love his situation and think Evans skill set will open things up for Hardy in the middle of the field. I like that the Bills dont have any other potential RZ monster in the passing game. Hes still a rookie so ill temper my expectations, but without seeing anything other than college video, I like his prospects both short term and long term with the Bills

 

[puckalicious]

NO had the #1 offense in the NFL Colston's rookie year. Buf will be lucky to sniff the top half of the NFL. Hardy hype is way too high.

So did NO have the #1 offense because of Colston? Or did he have a breakout rookie year because NO had the #1 offense? Maybe the addition of Bush in the same year had a little something to do with the #1 ranking?In 2005, NO was 20th. Last year Buffalo was 30th. Much farther to go to be #1, but a team does not need to have the #1 offense to have a top-10 fantasy WR. Not that I think Hardy will be a top-10 WR, I'm just saying that the team's overall offensive rank last year really doesn't have much to do with how a rookie will do this year.In 2005, the Chiefs had the #1 offense, and their top WR (Kennison) finished 19th in my league. Steve Smith was the #1 WR, but he was on the #22 ranked offense.

 

[treat88]

How many rookies have had a Colston-like instant impact?Predicting that kind of season is like predicting the lottery numbers.And to answer the question, Hardy short term, Sweed long term.

Marques ColstonDwayne BoweBrandon MarshallJames Hardy

I'll give you Bowe, Marshall went 20 for 309 his rookie season.So we have a list of 2. Colston, Bowe.Good luck with those odds.

 

[pizzatyme]

How many rookies have had a Colston-like instant impact?Predicting that kind of season is like predicting the lottery numbers.And to answer the question, Hardy short term, Sweed long term.

Marques ColstonDwayne BoweBrandon MarshallJames Hardy :(

I'll give you Bowe, Marshall went 20 for 309 his rookie season.So we have a list of 2. Colston, Bowe.Good luck with those odds.

It's all about speculation. Is it a guarantee that Hardy will have a nice year? No. Is there a trend that could continue with Hardy? Yes. Especially since he's moving into the #2 role with a very good #1WR to deflect coverage.To each his own.

 

[LBH]

rotoworld....

Bills website writer Chris Brown believes second-round rookie James Hardy has a "very good" chance to start opposite Lee Evans this season.

Hardy's road to starting is as clear as any rookie wideout, with Will Franklin (Chiefs) possibly second. Roscoe Parrish and incumbent Josh Reed will be used inside when Buffalo gives spread looks. Hardy was a high-scoring wideout at Indiana and there's little reason to think that will change.Source: buffalobills.com

 

[az_prof]

How many rookies have had a Colston-like instant impact?Predicting that kind of season is like predicting the lottery numbers.And to answer the question, Hardy short term, Sweed long term.

Marques ColstonDwayne BoweBrandon MarshallJames Hardy

I'll give you Bowe, Marshall went 20 for 309 his rookie season.So we have a list of 2. Colston, Bowe.Good luck with those odds.

Even Bowe's rookie season was no where near Colston's. I can only think of two that are similar: Boldin and Randy Moss.So, you are saying that Hardy is the next Colston, Moss, or Boldin? Good luck with that one.Hardy WILL get more looks this year because of the paucity of good WRs behind Evans in Buffalo, but Sweed has a good opportunity too with only two legitimate guys in front of him and one of them getting old. He also has a much better Qb. I think their ability is pretty comparable.

 

[Jon_Moore]

I'm not sold on either guy having a great career in terms of fantasy football. However, since Sweed missed significant time and we didn't get to see how far he came on the field, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[redman]

How many rookies have had a Colston-like instant impact?Predicting that kind of season is like predicting the lottery numbers.And to answer the question, Hardy short term, Sweed long term.

Marques ColstonDwayne BoweBrandon MarshallJames Hardy

I'll give you Bowe, Marshall went 20 for 309 his rookie season.So we have a list of 2. Colston, Bowe.Good luck with those odds.

Don't forget Michael Clayton.